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Title: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: soda72 on July 19, 2010, 08:02:17 AM
They have a video showing a UAV being taken out by a 50 kilowatt laser.  
They also say it could be used againsts motors and rockets.

I doubt it's ready for any real time war conditions but who knows in 30 to 50 years it might become standard armament on naval ships..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10682693


Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: Bruv119 on July 19, 2010, 02:00:13 PM
omg  i'm going on Sunday wonder whether they will show it to the public   :eek:

wonder whether they have been training sharks also?   :noid
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: Rino on July 19, 2010, 06:45:23 PM
     Apparently having air supremacy is not enough, we gotta have laser beams too.  Seems like the
guys getting bombed would like this system more than the ones that are developing it.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: Rino on July 19, 2010, 06:47:11 PM
     Maybe they'll let you personalize the moon Bruv  :lol
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: Boxman on July 19, 2010, 07:21:38 PM
I'm going to invest in whoever makes mirror-paint.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: Chalenge on July 19, 2010, 08:00:17 PM
I thought they proved the best anti-aircraft laser was the cheap versions pointed in all directions to blind the pilots?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: bozon on July 20, 2010, 11:44:24 AM
There was already a prototype for a laser system to intercept short range ballistic armament (artillery, rockets...) called Nautilus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_High_Energy_Laser
It worked but was not worth the cost, effort and logistic complications.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: 33Vortex on July 20, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
Look up the USAF ABL project.

(http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/images/abl_AC_unstow_NO_F16_375x300.jpg)(http://www.radioactivechief.com/graphics/h_abl_cutaway_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: smoe on July 20, 2010, 07:55:36 PM
This may be why the new CVN-78 will have 3 times the electrical power output capacity then previous models.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: AirFlyer on July 20, 2010, 10:51:02 PM
This may be why the new CVN-78 will have 3 times the electrical power output capacity then previous models.

I'd vote on that being more to do with the rail-guns being developed. Last I heard they were to be mounted on destroyers but it's only a small step to put them on a different boat.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: Saxman on July 20, 2010, 11:27:44 PM
     Maybe they'll let you personalize the moon Bruv  :lol

I immediately thought of this:

(http://www.omgwallhack.org/media/img/joe/chairface-moon.jpg)

SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: jay on July 20, 2010, 11:43:47 PM
honestly i think laser tech is retarded and in some cases a waste of time an money
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: trax1 on July 21, 2010, 12:19:38 AM
honestly i think laser tech is retarded and in some cases a waste of time an money
Why's that?  They can take down enemies from far off and they don't run outta ammo.  I think having these things on-board Naval ships would give the guys on them an extra layer of protection from any enemy threat, I think there great ideas. 

Another great application of lasers is the ones they got on Hummers now that they can use to set off an IED from a safe distance.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: jay on July 21, 2010, 05:53:24 AM
Why's that?  They can take down enemies from far off and they don't run outta ammo.  I think having these things on-board Naval ships would give the guys on them an extra layer of protection from any enemy threat, I think there great ideas. 

Another great application of lasers is the ones they got on Hummers now that they can use to set off an IED from a safe distance.

planes and navy ships defense?? bleh IED exploding sure and i should have rephrased my statment was getting to handheld lasers (lightsabers only exeption)
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: L0nGb0w on July 21, 2010, 07:15:12 PM
Why's that?  They can take down enemies from far off and they don't run outta ammo.  I think having these things on-board Naval ships would give the guys on them an extra layer of protection from any enemy threat, I think there great ideas. 

Another great application of lasers is the ones they got on Hummers now that they can use to set off an IED from a safe distance.

Also, the precision of a laser virtually eliminates the chance of collateral damage
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: 33Vortex on July 21, 2010, 07:49:43 PM
There is no such thing as collateral damage. You don't think the armed forces know their weapons and munitions? When a weapon is used, it is intentional. Any resulting damage is calculated and intentional. Perhaps not wanted, but still intentional and a calculated known factor in the use of weapons.

I think the term was invented by someone senior who didn't want to take responsibility for what they were doing.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: trax1 on July 21, 2010, 09:44:46 PM
There is no such thing as collateral damage. You don't think the armed forces know their weapons and munitions? When a weapon is used, it is intentional. Any resulting damage is calculated and intentional. Perhaps not wanted, but still intentional and a calculated known factor in the use of weapons.

I think the term was invented by someone senior who didn't want to take responsibility for what they were doing.
I guess in the grand scheme of things then your right there really is no collateral damage, but the term generally refers to situations like, we were aiming at that bunker there and the school that was next door sustained some damage as well, now when they were going after the bunker they weren't intending to damage the school as well, thus making the damage the school sustained classified as collateral damage, or when you go after a target and something goes wrong and a different non military target gets hit instead, that's collateral damage, but yes these things are ultimately unavoidable and thus going to happen no matter what, all we can do is try and make weapons that are smarter & more accurate to make the chances of collateral damage happening less & less likely.

When it comes down to it your going to have the need for a term to describe what happens when a non military target takes damage, and collateral damage fits that role fine, otherwise what would you have us call it, a whoopsie?
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on July 21, 2010, 11:46:42 PM
Lasers can hit targets with light speed.


Railgun's have the kinetic impact abilities to decimate things tho.
Cant strap a nuke to a laser, you can strap a nuke to a railgun slug.



so..ill take two of each.
Title: Re: Anti-aircraft laser unveiled at Farnborough Airshow
Post by: bozon on July 22, 2010, 02:44:11 AM
There is no such thing as collateral damage. You don't think the armed forces know their weapons and munitions? When a weapon is used, it is intentional. Any resulting damage is calculated and intentional. Perhaps not wanted, but still intentional and a calculated known factor in the use of weapons.
1. Not everything is calculated. When the calculation is done in real-time there is often not enough time to complete the calculation and the best estimated result is selected. Estimates are often off.
2. You can only take into account the things you know. Unintentional casualties are often a result of not knowing they are there or little knowledge of the detailed environment (like hitting one building and the one next to it collapses from the shock because it was built like ****.