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Title: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on July 19, 2010, 08:53:32 AM
Okay, despite whatever self-aggrandizing claims I may make regarding my education or intelligence, I, occasionally, can do things that are, frankly, really box-o-rocks dumb. I know this may come as a surprise. :huh

My previous high point in AH came when I, flying a Spit, savagely attacked one of my own side's Lancs, only to find my wings torn off by Hispano shells.

I think I topped that last w/e. I haven't had much time for flying lately since summer is a really busy time for me due to my USTA involvement and my little side 501(c) 3 that runs tourneys in Ann Arbor. However, because I'm now in one of my builder's rentals waiting for him to finish my new house, I've got an offsetting time save in that I'm not needing to take care of a house until September - that means no time on projects like basement finishing, yard stuff, etc. Thus, I'm back and playing.

I've gone back to flying the G-14 almost exclusively since I love it. I fly mostly with the gondos and usually try to get a bounce - though you can fight with the G-14 from an E disadvantage since it's got an E "mass specific income" that is truly excellent. Anyway, my squaddies and I were trying to take a port and I decided to help out in the de-acking/vehicle killing by loading the 250lb bomb on my centerline. I made a couple of shuttles that way. We ended up taking the port, bfd...

Some time later on Saturday  I found myself engaged against a high -47 and wondering why I couldn't seem to get a turn or a vertical advantage - even after I'd worked him down to co-alt. Don't get me wrong - I've seen good -47 flying (Hajo killed me once and sent a 200 channel message after he'd shot up my Dora - something like "stick-stir THAT!"). Still, from a co-E 109G-14 at relatively modest alts I entirely expect to be able to outmaneuver such a pig. The 47 pilot ended up causing me to bail after a fight of several minutes. I also had a later battle with a -38 and -40 where it seemed like that damn -38J always had my six. Result: another bail or death. Later,  I chased some Lancs up to 20k and wondered why they seemed to be outclimbing me. I had no alternative but a dead six attack that resulted in engine loss. I was able to deadstick back to base.

Of course, I'd neglected to stop carrying the stupid bomb around. It doesn't need to be said: the 109G-14 is significantly less maneuverable when you strap a f***ing barndoor brick to it.

I landed some kills after taking getting rid of the bomb last night - a modest two. It felt like taking the donut off the bat. Occasionally, I'll drop the gondos as well - THAT feels really good. 

Anyway, I make no claims of infallibility - or even of special competence, given my just-beyond rookie status, but I'm better without the bomb.                                               

Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: bj229r on July 19, 2010, 09:05:47 AM
Heh, something else (I THINK this applies to all LW planes) Is carrying a bomb or an external fuel tank leaves a rack attached to the plane which costs you as much as 8 knots after the ord is gone.....once in a while, that number looms large :huh
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on July 19, 2010, 09:09:06 AM
Heh, something else (I THINK this applies to all LW planes) Is carrying a bomb or an external fuel tank leaves a rack attached to the plane which costs you as much as 8 knots after the ord is gone.....once in a while, that number looms large :huh

Yep, see elsewhere on this bbs - the Dora loses something like that for the drop rack. I also believe empty Granatwerfer tubes cost you.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 19, 2010, 12:56:35 PM
Slow, full flaps, on the deck trying to manage to hit a C-47... in a 262.

Look.  A Tempest waaaay up there coming my way....



wrongway
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on July 19, 2010, 01:06:19 PM
Slow, full flaps, on the deck trying to manage to hit a C-47... in a 262.

Look.  A Tempest waaaay up there coming my way....



wrongway

I'd call that honest - especially since you probably came away with diminished poikies (and poikies hoits).
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: mensa180 on July 19, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
Sometimes I shoot the bad guys instead of my squad mates, or worse yet clear a squad mates 6.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Zoney on July 19, 2010, 02:01:38 PM
Landed and ended a 5 kill mission once, at the base we were attacking, before we captured it.  Several expletives were immediately expressed.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: CAP1 on July 19, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
i fly the p-38j almost exclusively. i fly with a light internal fuel load, and 2 drop tanks.

ever since i came back, i've almost always forgotten to get rid of them.

 fought a guy in a 190a5 the other night....almost 5 minutes before i realized they were still hanging there, with close to 200 gallons of fuel in em. got rid of them, and the fight became easier....and i fubared him.....but i thought i saw his entire tail come off. i mistakenly relaxed a bit, and wnet into a climb, looking for him to hit the ground. what i saw instead was tracers ripping me apart.  :rofl
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: SPKmes on July 19, 2010, 02:55:12 PM
I think it was about two....hmmmm maybe five tours back I upped one of those P38 things..wasn't pretty...then to top it off, I decided that I'd go for a ride in an F4U...The experience...welll let's just say it was a screw up  :lol :lol :lol. One day I might learn how those planes work but till then, I'll stick to my import.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: fbWldcat on July 19, 2010, 03:25:15 PM
I may be able to top that.

Back a few months ago, I would always play AH. Even when the weather was bad. I would boast on range and on squad...
A few days after a really big boast, lightning struck my neighbors house. Now my router is bad and I can't fly at all.  :cry


 :lol :lol :lol :cheers:
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: G0ALY on July 19, 2010, 03:25:27 PM
Some time ago, I joined an NOE base capture mission as the only goon. We flew under DAR for over four sectors… The other guys quickly capped the enemy field and took down the town…

Then I rushed in with my goon… and dropped vehicle supplies instead of troops.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Imowface on July 19, 2010, 04:09:19 PM
In a B25 H trying to shoot a flak with the 75, when nothing was happening and the flak murdered me, I looked at my text buffer in the tower and had about 30 "your doors are not open" mesages , I accidentally switched to bombs on my attack run.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: fbWldcat on July 19, 2010, 04:10:26 PM
Apparently you also had an itchy trigger finger...
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Imowface on July 19, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
well when nothing happend the first time I clicked rather then doing the smart thing and looking for the problem, I just kept trying in rapid succession
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Dichotomy on July 19, 2010, 04:26:59 PM
accidentally left my mic open one night and got shot down.  the language was, shall we say, colorful?
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: 321BAR on July 19, 2010, 04:30:31 PM
Yep, see elsewhere on this bbs - the Dora loses something like that for the drop rack. I also believe empty Granatwerfer tubes cost you.
P47-D25 Rocket tubes do the same. they cause drag
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Volron on July 19, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
I've done the B-25H thing, trying to fire my bombs out of the 75mm cannon.  I've done the troop thing, bringing field supplies instead of troops in my case (at least the v-sups would have been a lil more helpful with the few friendly gv's that were in town).  But, I'd have to say, bringing torpedo's (in 88's) to knock out a vh, yeah... :o  :joystick:  Another is one is, when I upped to take out some hangers in bombers, get calibrated and drop, only to realize as my bombs are being released that the salvo was set to sink a CV.  :rofl
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Karnak on July 19, 2010, 10:42:37 PM
I've had more than one dogfight in which I flew, unknowingly, a gravid Mossie with eggs in her belly.  The thing about the Mossie is she hides it from you as you don't lose significant speed to those...


(Mossie rocket rails + rockets cost you 29mph on the deck, just the rails after the rockets are gone cost you 19mph)
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Mongoose on July 19, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
I flew to the enemy base, attacked, flew home, rearmed, and attacked again.  Couldn't figure out why my bombs weren't exploding.  Then I realized I was upping with drop tanks instead of bombs.   :banana:
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Mongoose on July 19, 2010, 11:05:37 PM
We could make this a weekly or monthly thread.  Each Monday we report our dumb mistakes of the preceding week.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: thndregg on July 19, 2010, 11:12:40 PM
It has become a tradition in the Virtual 91st Bomb Group do do similar to what the real life bomb group did for a laugh in WW2 after screw-ups were made. In our group, after someone does something stupid (such as accidentally belly-land, or fly well, but taxi a wing off on a hangar, or run a big bomber mission into a hillside), we bring out the 91st salute known as the Rigid Digit:

example: <RD> thndrEGG.

I would post an historical photograph of Col. Stanely T. Wray, (C.O. of the 91st Bomb Group) demonstrating the "Rigid Digit", but Skuzzy previously demonstrated his omnipitent BBS powers as a result.

You will find it in this book, which is a great read: 
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Q561g4kiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Makoyouidiot on July 19, 2010, 11:20:04 PM
Ok, so earlier tonight, I was attacking a flight of bombers in a Hurricane MK 1, just pumping them full of .303's, and not taking any hits. As I was passing underneath them, I checked six, and there was a 51 hot on me, so I reflexively yanked hard back and right on the stick while applying left rudder, and my lovely Hurricane rolled smartly, then skidded upwards...into the belly of one of the B-24's I was shooting at. *poof*
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: BaldEagl on July 19, 2010, 11:23:12 PM
Wow.  You guys are losers.   :rofl   :D
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: ebfd11 on July 20, 2010, 01:16:24 AM
I did a mission one night and I volunteered to take the goon, after 20 mins of NOE flight, and 10 mins of waiting on ground I got the OK from a squaddie, I get airbourne get up to the town and open the door.

When what to my wandering eyes appear as I release "troops"? Well let's put it to ya this way the smoking wirble in town got the needed supplies he had been asking for....

13 kills later (including myself) I get a big thank you from the other player, from my fellow country men I got cussed out.

Can you say DOH!!!
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Guppy35 on July 20, 2010, 02:34:38 AM
It has become a tradition in the Virtual 91st Bomb Group do do similar to what the real life bomb group did for a laugh in WW2 after screw-ups were made. In our group, after someone does something stupid (such as accidentally belly-land, or fly well, but taxi a wing off on a hangar, or run a big bomber mission into a hillside), we bring out the 91st salute known as the Rigid Digit:

example: <RD> thndrEGG.

I would post an historical photograph of Col. Stanely T. Wray, (C.O. of the 91st Bomb Group) demonstrating the "Rigid Digit", but Skuzzy previously demonstrated his omnipitent BBS powers as a result.

You will find it in this book, which is a great read: 
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Q561g4kiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)


The RAF referred to it as "Finger Trouble"  :)

Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: thndregg on July 20, 2010, 08:17:22 AM

The RAF referred to it as "Finger Trouble"  :)


:lol
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: humble on July 20, 2010, 08:27:41 AM
Last weekend I log on with cup of coffee in hand and over vox 1st comment is squaadie on deck rtb/oil leak with 3-4 cons in trail on the deck. NP I grab a barbiefire and go flying out at 3k on wep sipping my coffee....after a few minutes I've got vis and keep my offest and dive back down to tree top level. They see me and pull of the squaddie ...so I drive on thru the gap figuring to get them pulling G's and convert to a sweeping low G zoom........................G lider :furious :furious :furious :furious :O :confused: :headscratch: :joystick: :joystick:

Needless to say I was there waiting in the tower still sipping my coffee when said squaddie arrived :D
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: cobia38 on July 20, 2010, 11:19:38 AM

  dive bombing with ar234 and hit ratos instead of bombs = rocket powerd lawn dart  :furious
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Shuffler on July 20, 2010, 01:59:10 PM
Mensa once asked me to clear his 6 of three cons. I told him I'd be right there after stirring my margarita. He had the nerve to get shot down before I could get there.

These young folks these days have no patience.
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: Becinhu on July 20, 2010, 02:49:12 PM
One of the first times I upped a 262.  I was around 12k defending a port.  My gunnery was actually worse than it is now (amazing i know) so every fighter I engaged never even chipped their paint. I look down over my right wing and spot a flight of B-26s at around 5-6k. I rolled to the right and dropped in. I passed by the 26s at around 700 mph and left a nice hole on the beach.  What did I learn? Apparently when you dive at a 70 degree angle at full throttle in a 262 you compress very quickly.  :furious
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: oTRALFZo on July 20, 2010, 03:56:09 PM
Had a bunch of kills in a GV once. I was going to tower when I heard another engine.
I sat patiently waiting to ambush him as he came around the corner of the town while I was peering in my main gun..them BAMM. Tower.

He was a freindly  :furious
Title: Re: Classic screwups - can you top this?
Post by: TonyJoey on July 20, 2010, 04:38:28 PM
Awhile ago, I had about 10 kills in a 51 and was greedy enough to rearm. About halfway to the enemy base, my engine suddenly quits. I look down, and notice my ammo count hasn't changed from the previous sortie. I had left before the weapon reload was complete!  :cry