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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: sandwich on July 19, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
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Can we have the A-20 with the 4 20mm?
Pretty please with sugar on top. :pray
Hell, even have it as a perked loadout if need be.
It could be something I can spend some bomber perks on other than the 234.
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+1 but think all of the people dogfighting in it :)
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The 234 is all you need, to spend perks on. It is good in every role. :)
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The 234 is all you need, to spend perks on. It is good in every role. :)
The role of shooting is difficult :)
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When they remodel the A20 Id like to see that version added as a perked ord option. Plus the addition of the ventral gun that should be in game already.
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:aok I see no reason why not.
Just keep in mind that Mossy has 4 20mm in case if you don't want to wait.
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+1 :aok
i love my a-20
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WHY!?!?! its just like the mossie!!!!!!! Soory but i would have to say no.
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WHY!?!?! its just like the mossie!!!!!!! Soory but i would have to say no.
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Different engines, can take more fire (I think), slower, looks different, ect...
P.S. I would probably not fly it thought but would enjoy shooting at it :devil
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yup thats all we need a big bellybutton multi-cannon HOin machine! :rolleyes:
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With a reasonable perk price for the 4 x 20mm's, absolutely!
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yup thats all we need a big bellybutton multi-cannon HOin machine! :rolleyes:
That would be perked if ever put into the game. :rolleyes:
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If not mistaken this would be the version just like the Boston with the non rotating top gun. Also that version did not carry bombs. Make it a P70 instead more of them made plus we get the cool black skins.
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If not mistaken this would be the version just like the Boston with the non rotating top gun. Also that version did not carry bombs. Make it a P70 instead more of them made plus we get the cool black skins.
More A-20Gs with 4x 20mm cannons were produced than P-70s with 4x 20mm cannons. Only 59 P-70 were produced with the 4x 20mm cannons, P-70A-1 and later Nighthawk variants were produced with either 6 or 8 .50 caliber machine guns.
Also, the P-70 was a relative failure as a night fighter, think it only had one or two kills total throughout its entire war time service.
ack-ack
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If not mistaken this would be the version just like the Boston with the non rotating top gun. Also that version did not carry bombs. Make it a P70 instead more of them made plus we get the cool black skins.
from wiki
"A-20G
The A-20G, delivered from February 1943, would be the most produced of all the series - 2850 were built. The glazed nose was replaced by a solid nose containing four 20 mm (.79 in) Hispano cannons and two .50 in M2 Browning machine guns, making the aircraft slightly longer than previous versions. After the first batch of 250, the unreliable cannon were replaced by more machine guns. Some had a wider fuselage to accommodate a power driven gun turret. Many A-20Gs were delivered to the Soviet Union. The powerplant was the 1,600 hp (1,200 kW) R-2600-23. US A-20Gs were used on low-level sorties in the New Guinea theatre."
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It's also worth noting that only around 250 A-20Gs were produced with the 4x 20mm cannon weapons package. Unreliability led the cannons to be replaced with either the 6x or 8x .50 cal nose weapon package. Also, out of the 250, I think most of them were converted to the .50 cal nose weapon package.
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with all the unperked brit/German and ijn cannon rides dont ya think U.S should have one too ?
and yes i know the 38 has 1 20mm but thats all we have,unless you want to spend perks on a Chog
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with all the unperked brit/German and ijn cannon rides dont ya think U.S should have one too ?
and yes i know the 38 has 1 20mm but thats all we have,unless you want to spend perks on a Chog
The US wasn't big on 20mm cannons due to poor decisions in cannon production methods, as noted in this thread. The UK, Germany, Russia and Japan had the majority of their fighters armed with cannons, so it is hardly a surprise to see most of their fighters in AH bristling with cannons.
If a US cannon bird were really needed I'd vote for the P-61B. At least it is interesting.
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The US wasn't big on 20mm cannons due to poor decisions in cannon production methods, as noted in this thread. The UK, Germany, Russia and Japan had the majority of their fighters armed with cannons, so it is hardly a surprise to see most of their fighters in AH bristling with cannons.
If a US cannon bird were really needed I'd vote for the P-61B. At least it is interesting.
would be far easer to just update a ride that allready came with them, then it would be to put a new ride in the game.
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would be far easer to just update a ride that allready came with them, then it would be to put a new ride in the game.
Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.
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Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.
some of us prefer a tin can over a plywood box to do our dirty work,so yes there would be a lot of them flying around.
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Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.
I also believe that operationally, a small amount of the cannon armed A-20Gs saw service and I think those were the ones deployed to the SWP area for combat evaluations. I have to agree with Karnak.
ack-ack
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Different engines, can take more fire (I think), slower, looks different, ect...
P.S. I would probably not fly it thought but would enjoy shooting at it :devil
somehow i can fly an A20 better than a mossie... those Pratt & Whitney R-2600-23 radials seem to have a nice climb/stall character the mossie doesn't :aok and those 6 .50s are amazing
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Yeah, but as noted earlier in this thread it would be highly unrepresentative of that aircraft, the A-20, to be cannon armed and yet the cannon version would be the one encountered by far the most frequently.
you speak of " highly unrepresentative" lets take the ta-152 for instance,only 42 built. this compared to 250 quad 20mm nose mount Havocs.
allso only 200 C hogs built. so maybe these aircraft are also not worthy in the game.
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Early war US versions of the Hispano 20mm cannons had several problems. One of the biggest was not designing tight enough tolerances for the ammunition. By the time they got the bugs figured out they had settled into using 6 or more .50's for most planes.
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A20 really doesnt need more firepower, and given only a small % were produced with 20mm, and most of those didnt work so were retrofitted with .50s I say
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the A20 we have in game is already a stellar energy dogfighter with the lethal .50 package. Giving her C-hog lethality is the definition of overkill.
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It is like the three cannon LA-7, they were extremely rare in WW2, but in AH almost all LA7's in the sky are using the 3 cannon package
so I give a -1
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the A20 we have in game is already a stellar energy dogfighter with the lethal .50 package. Giving her C-hog lethality is the definition of overkill.
4 20mm and 2 50 cal is not overkill. 17.2 50 cal
4 20mm and 2 30mm is overkill. 36.0 50 cal
50 cal = 1.0
20 mm = 3.80
Mg151/20 20 mm = 3.3
30mm = 11.4
Alright, maybe 17 50 cal is a bit overkill.
Look at the 110 G2 though. :O
That's overkill.
I have no problems with the 6 50 cal loadout but the 20mm just make it so much better. Of course it will come with a perk price, limiting it's usage. F4U-1c levels maybe?
And 8 50 cals would be nice to have too. Perk it at 2 or 3 if it even requires a perk at all.
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you speak of " highly unrepresentative" lets take the ta-152 for instance,only 42 built. this compared to 250 quad 20mm nose mount Havocs.
allso only 200 C hogs built. so maybe these aircraft are also not worthy in the game.
Yet the Ta152 we have is not unrepresentative of the Ta152s that were built, thus mooting your point.
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OK, OK, I'll take the 8 .50's in the nose and I'll call it good enough :lol
:salute
BigRat
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The P-70, which was the nightfighter version of the A-20, had the 4 x 20mm. to my knowledge and even those saw very limited service.
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Yet the Ta152 we have is not unrepresentative of the Ta152s that were built, thus mooting your point.
Three gun La-7.