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Title: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: ROX on July 22, 2010, 08:46:03 PM
WTG guys!

The audio is so bad and tinny squaddies cant even understand each other on VOX.  We had to use text.

The new map layouts are so convaluded that no-one knows where the previous objects to drop are.  Nothing looks like it did yesterday so you can be looking to drop ords and kill troop barracks instead.

You can't adjust any game audio individually per sound like before so you can even have it so loud you can't understand anything or so low an NME tank can be smoking a cig right next to you and you won't even know it.

Squeekers on VOX sound so bad and high end it's more like scissor tips on glass than it ever was.

In a plane, if you drop the rock concert like audio to a reasonable level you have no clue when an enemy plane is near you.

The landscape is swirreled with CV group shell smoke so bad you cant tell what is shooting at you and not.

Nice Job!

I'm guessing your marketing consultant had a corinary a few months ago.



ROX


Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: 1MADDOG1 on July 22, 2010, 08:53:13 PM
 :aok +1, (without all the sarcasm) :huh
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: MK-84 on July 22, 2010, 08:54:23 PM
     One of my favorite parts of Aces High is that it is constantly changing.  Most of the time I absoutley love every new patch or arena adjustment.  On the rare occasion that I disagree personally with a change (and I do not think i can remember that time)  I always have new options, and gameplay to explore.  I hope it never gets stagnant. WTG HTC!
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: ROX on July 22, 2010, 08:55:16 PM
:aok +1, (without all the sarcasm) :huh

My aplologies for any sarcasim.  I did radio for 26 years so it's a force of habit.


ROX
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: MK-84 on July 22, 2010, 08:58:47 PM
     With new miles sound, I would suspect that some adjustments may be needed for vox to work perfectley.  Much in the same way a new flightstick needs to be tweaked from the original settings.  Perhaps that is your problem with vox?

     As for the other audio problems you appear to be having, remember EVERY single sound can be individually adjusted to suit your preferences.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: sunfan1121 on July 22, 2010, 09:05:06 PM
remember EVERY single sound can be individually adjusted to suit your preferences.
not anymore. The only way to change it up is to mess with the sound pack... way over my head.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Soulyss on July 22, 2010, 09:15:58 PM
They also loaded new clipboard maps with the new field layouts, all you have to do is check before you start your bomb run.

Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: 1MADDOG1 on July 22, 2010, 09:18:29 PM
My aplologies for any sarcasim.  I did radio for 26 years so it's a force of habit.


ROX
Tis O.K. with me. I was a D.J. and K.J. for several years after the Navy in my own business. Was just agreeing with the distaste of the new patch in regards to the sound and VOX issues. Didn't want the company to think I was aligning with all you were saying the way you said it. Nevermind, for me the update SUX! :rofl :bolt:
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Jayhawk on July 22, 2010, 09:19:50 PM
Sound issues are a major bummer. 

But new field objects and layouts, that's cool.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: 1MADDOG1 on July 22, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
Sound issues are a major bummer. 

But new field objects and layouts, that's cool.
:aok +1
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: hlbly on July 22, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
Guys you need to play with the settings . When I first ran the test version my sound was crappy too . Try setting vox on headphones , environment and effects on speakers .
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: IronDog on July 22, 2010, 09:30:14 PM
I hope Hitech rethinks the Miles sound.The engine blasting my eardrums,takes away from all the other sounds.I can't hear on vox very well.I don't think upgrading the sound was that big of an issue.If it ain't broke.....The streaking rounds from the CV group is a way bad idea.The only artillery I've seen capable of that were the rockets used in Iraq.I'm sure they meant well,but this patch has some major negatives.Lets see how they work it out.My flying time is waning,as I've been around the flight sim scene a long time,and the urge to play is rapidly declining.
Dobe
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Ghosth on July 22, 2010, 09:33:21 PM
Esc, options, preferences, game sounds, turn down effects and enviorment to 25%.

Done deal, no problems.

Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: flatiron1 on July 22, 2010, 09:56:51 PM

Esc, options, preferences, game sounds, turn down effects and environment to 25%



tried that by turning environment all the way down to shut off the siren, works until some keys their mic then siren starts back up.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: TinmanX on July 22, 2010, 10:19:08 PM
Looking at the clipboard maps explains a lot about field layouts.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: SunBat on July 22, 2010, 10:42:34 PM
They also loaded new clipboard maps with the new field layouts, all you have to do is check before you start your bomb run.



Heaven forbid they do a little "recon" which would require popping open a cartoon map.

U guys are so pathetic words can't contain it. No wonder u have taken the easy road in AH and have become a land-grabber. Obviously that's all ur pitiful constitution is capable of.  Expend some effort and adjust. Frickin' Dodo birds.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: 1MADDOG1 on July 22, 2010, 10:55:24 PM
I see a Skuzzy "see item #" coming.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: RealDeal on July 22, 2010, 10:57:39 PM
How do I get rid of that rediculous siren. Anyways, sounds stink but I do like the map updates.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: grizz441 on July 22, 2010, 11:07:41 PM
Esc, options, preferences, game sounds, turn down effects and enviorment to 25%.

Done deal, no problems.



Not quite.  As soon as I come into contact with an external sound like a plane, the layering sounds double or triple in volume immediately and rip through my speakers.  As soon as the airplane gets out of external range, the sound immediately cuts back down to standard settings.  Sound terrible and is incredibly annoying and non immersive.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: BaldEagl on July 22, 2010, 11:11:19 PM
Sounds like after a week of 12-13 hour days at work this week I won't be playing AH this weekend.  Guess it'll be a week or more before I log on again.   :frown:
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: gyrene81 on July 22, 2010, 11:20:34 PM
If you want to totally eliminate some individual sounds, grab Baumer's empty wav file from here:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,293186.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,293186.0.html)

Put it somewhere that you can copy it multiple times with different sound names and put those "empty" sound files in your sounds folder. That will mute anything you don't want to hear.

The annoying siren and base under attack alert would be my first choices. Somewhere around the boards is a list of the sound names, otherwise grab a custom sound pack and look at the names of the sounds in it and use those names.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: whiteman on July 22, 2010, 11:21:48 PM
BaldEagl, what your seeing is the vocal minority pissing and moaning. Turn sound down and all is fine, learn to read the clip board map which took all of 15 sec's to memorize the base layout and all is fine. Or you can take the other road, act like a little girl because your to lazy to open a map and learn you can't take out a base with 2 sets of lancs any more. which took a bumbling squad of morons 8 sets before the update so now they need to recruit 8 more people so maybe they can kill the base with 16 sets.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Crus8r on July 22, 2010, 11:27:45 PM
Dump the new sound pack it simply suxs.  And if you girly boys/denutered males can't take "to the point" stuff it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :cry
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: gyrene81 on July 22, 2010, 11:30:30 PM
Dump the new sound pack it simply suxs.  And if you girly boys/denutered males can't take "to the point" stuff it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :cry
Whatever. You have less than a clue and if you have an actual problem aside from immaturity, post specifics with a dxdiag from your system in the bugs report section. It's past your bedtime anyway.








I know Skuzzy..."see rule #4"...
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: MK-84 on July 22, 2010, 11:31:32 PM
Dump the new sound pack it simply suxs.  And if you girly boys/denutered males can't take "to the point" stuff it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :cry

What is "to the point?" and what sucks (<--spelled correctly) about the sound?  Perhaps it can be adjusted.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: lulu on July 22, 2010, 11:35:47 PM
I must re-calibrate all these!!!????????!!!!!!!!
Wow!

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0.800000,
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0.800000,gvstop
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0.800000,gvstart
0.800000,gvstop
0.800000,wheel
0.300000,buffet
0.000000,tmusic
0.800000,explode1
1.000000,trumble
1.000000,knock1


 :salute
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: gyrene81 on July 22, 2010, 11:37:19 PM
Where did you find that list lulu?  :O
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: ap1102 on July 22, 2010, 11:37:52 PM
Sorry AH2 staff I know you guys worked your butts off on this but im not a fan. I think the days of base takes and war wins is gone or on the way out. looks like a furballers dream though so im sure Sunbat and Griz will be pleased. Perhaps you may keep one arena with the old version sound and layouts for the old farts with bad eyes.
I thinks my days is numbered.

EZRhino
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: BaldEagl on July 22, 2010, 11:40:19 PM
BaldEagl, what your seeing is the vocal minority pissing and moaning. Turn sound down and all is fine, learn to read the clip board map which took all of 15 sec's to memorize the base layout and all is fine. Or you can take the other road, act like a little girl because your to lazy to open a map and learn you can't take out a base with 2 sets of lancs any more. which took a bumbling squad of morons 8 sets before the update so now they need to recruit 8 more people so maybe they can kill the base with 16 sets.

I undersatand that but I DO use speakers, not a headset, and I'm afraid that if I even try the new version, HT will decide to dump the new sound system again for further work, then I'll lose all my individual sound settings for the old system.  Just trying to hedge my bets and wait a few patches.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: lulu on July 22, 2010, 11:40:50 PM
ah folder setting folder sound file

 :salute
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: ZetaNine on July 22, 2010, 11:41:49 PM
how do I get to this????


once I get to the "sounds" file......it won't let me open it anymore.

"can't open sounds.cfg file"




I must re-calibrate all these!!!????????!!!!!!!!
Wow!

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0.600000,eng
0.800000,engstart
0.800000,engoff
0.300000,damage1
0.600000,stall
0.800000,hit
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0.800000,hit_2
0.800000,hit_3
0.800000,hit_4
1.000000,hit_5
0.800000,hit_6
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0.150000,tread
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0.800000,explode1
0.800000,explode3
0.800000,explode4
0.300000,beng
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0.250000,jeng
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1.000000,eng
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0.800000,
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0.800000,
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0.800000,vstart
0.800000,vstop
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0.800000,gstrike2
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0.800000,gstrike4
1.000000,m2
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0.800000,reng
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0.800000,rstop
0.800000,
0.800000,reng
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0.800000,rstop
0.800000,scrape
0.350000,Slat
0.200000,debris
0.300000,gveng
0.800000,gvstart
0.800000,gvstop
0.800000,gveng
0.800000,gvstart
0.800000,gvstop
0.800000,wheel
0.300000,buffet
0.000000,tmusic
0.800000,explode1
1.000000,trumble
1.000000,knock1


 :salute
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: bustr on July 22, 2010, 11:47:50 PM
You are going to have to learn "SOUND" from the windows control panel out into the game now. If you do not know how to quickly setup your Mic and record your voice then play it back. Well you got bigger problems then this new Miles sound system. In some cases you probably through windows need to up the reocord vomume for your voice. Many of my squad mates tonight sounded like they were whidpering and left their settings where they were without testing offline.

Experiment inside of windows lowereing or raising your playback and record volumes. In the game remember that the Master volume reduces all sound equaly and the individual specificaly. Wow a MIXER. In voice check how your slider for muteing games sounds is set so you can just hear environment sounds but VOX comes through clear. Thats the one that lowers game sound while someone is speaking.

If you are using a headset for your speakers set everything for speakers to head set. Experiment with the TOTALY NEW SOUND SYSTEM before you whine. Then speak to HiTech and company if you need help. If you are using speakers or headphones to hear the game but using a seperate MIc, you may deed to up its recording volume in Windows or move it closer to your mouth.

I've flown in a few old airplanes, they are very noisy and flaps and gear dont always have sounds over the engine. Why else do you have indicators for wheels and flaps up and down? Directional sound requires at minimum a stero headset fro what I can tell.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: lulu on July 22, 2010, 11:56:35 PM
To zetanine,

As i wrote, there is a sound file into AH settings folder not into AH folder. That one is a resource file.
The file content i posted can be viewed by a simple text editor like notepad.

 :salute

Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Kazaa on July 23, 2010, 12:03:03 AM
I must re-calibrate all these!!!????????!!!!!!!!
Wow!

1.000000,Master
0.600000,eng
0.800000,engstart
0.800000,engoff
0.300000,damage1
0.600000,stall
0.800000,hit
0.800000,hit_1
0.800000,hit_2
0.800000,hit_3
0.800000,hit_4
1.000000,hit_5
0.800000,hit_6
0.800000,hit_7
0.350000,m2
0.350000,m2
0.000000,weapon
0.250000,tire
0.600000,gear
0.900000,flaps
0.300000,stress
0.600000,wind
0.200000,veng
0.800000,vstart
0.800000,vstop
0.150000,tread
0.800000,explode2
0.800000,explode1
0.800000,explode3
0.800000,explode4
0.300000,beng
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0.800000,rato
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0.800000,bstop
0.800000,
0.800000,jeng
0.800000,jstart
0.800000,jstop
0.800000,
0.000000,veng
0.800000,vstart
0.800000,vstop
0.400000,tread
0.800000,gstrike1
0.800000,gstrike2
0.800000,gstrike3
0.800000,gstrike4
1.000000,m2
0.450000,whistle
0.800000,train
0.000000,wheel
0.250000,airraid
0.700000,warning
0.800000,reng
0.800000,rstart
0.800000,rstop
0.800000,
0.800000,reng
0.800000,rstart
0.800000,rstop
0.800000,scrape
0.350000,Slat
0.200000,debris
0.300000,gveng
0.800000,gvstart
0.800000,gvstop
0.800000,gveng
0.800000,gvstart
0.800000,gvstop
0.800000,wheel
0.300000,buffet
0.000000,tmusic
0.800000,explode1
1.000000,trumble
1.000000,knock1


 :salute

I tried to maunually change each sound in the list and it doesn't. I set them all to 0.000000 and it still did nothing.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Tec on July 23, 2010, 12:13:55 AM
That list is the old sounds Kaz, I wouldn't expect it to do anything. 
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: ozrocker on July 23, 2010, 07:05:15 AM
Boy, I see a few Skuzzy might drop the PNG hammer to,lol. A few posts on the BBS here are really close to the "slam dunk"- beINg disrespectful. As with every change to the game, there will be issues that will get sorted out by HTC in time. BeINg sarcastic or disrespectful is not going to do anythINg but get the wrath of Dale or Skuzzy workINg. I won't complaIN, because whININg about somethINg I can't fix will do no good. It's good to give HTC INput, but not IN a demandINg way.
                                                                                                      <S> Oz
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: lulu on July 23, 2010, 08:06:13 AM
Neg Kazaa,

What i want to do is to take each sound and  re-calibrate it by sound recorder.

Lower general volume and effect volume could be a good compromise too
but not so optimal as before.

 :salute
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: dunnrite on July 23, 2010, 08:35:03 AM
I undersatand that but I DO use speakers, not a headset, and I'm afraid that if I even try the new version, HT will decide to dump the new sound system again for further work, then I'll lose all my individual sound settings for the old system.  Just trying to hedge my bets and wait a few patches.

My thoughts exactly.  I can wait a while if I can't stand the new settings (with messing with the small adjustments that can be made within the game).  I'd sure hate to have to re-download the game if I jack something up in the AH folders (limited bandwidth).
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: kvuo75 on July 23, 2010, 08:37:32 AM

The new map layouts are so convaluded that no-one knows where the previous objects to drop are.  Nothing looks like it did yesterday so you can be looking to drop ords and kill troop barracks instead.


this is a weak complaint. it's different, so it's worse?

LOLOLOL


as others pointed out, do some recon. there's nice new highly detailed clipboard maps.


Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Rios on July 23, 2010, 08:45:04 AM
I love the new terrian, and the 17 pounders are deffenatly a +
But i hate this new sound option
Did anyone have a problem with the old one?
And everytime ive brought this up ive gotten 3 responses
1) GET USED TO IT OR QUIT! which i think is stupid, we're the ones pay $15 a month and it seems all of us (or most of us) want the old one back
2) ITS REALISTIC ok, it is realistic, but we also have p51 attacking b17's and one type of carrier and shermans shooting at other shermans and if the games supposed to be realistc than what the heck is a rook???
3) its noob friendly


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0.800000,scrape
0.350000,Slat
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0.300000,gveng
0.800000,gvstart
0.800000,gvstop
0.800000,gveng
0.800000,gvstart
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 :salute

I beg to differ
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: The Fugitive on July 23, 2010, 08:55:05 AM

Rios, the sound system was changed to accommodate NEW sounds they plan on adding down the road. Once the new sounds are in having 150 sliders (just a guess) to adjust sounds is NOT newb friendly. Give it a little time for them to get it sorted out.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: paulieb on July 23, 2010, 09:00:58 AM
Wow, I haven't even played in about 3 years, but it really looks like whININg is very much the IN thINg to do.  :old:
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: dedalos on July 23, 2010, 09:39:08 AM
I love threads like this one.  They give you a good idea on:

a) Who is thinking about filing an application
b) Who has filed an application
c) Who is already a member

 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: sky25 on July 23, 2010, 09:46:19 AM
Heaven forbid they do a little "recon" which would require popping open a cartoon map.

U guys are so pathetic words can't contain it. No wonder u have taken the easy road in AH and have become a land-grabber. Obviously that's all ur pitiful constitution is capable of.  Expend some effort and adjust. Frickin' Dodo birds.

Wow! Tell us how you really feel Sunbat...
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: sky25 on July 23, 2010, 09:50:31 AM
BaldEagl, what your seeing is the vocal minority pissing and moaning. Turn sound down and all is fine, learn to read the clip board map which took all of 15 sec's to memorize the base layout and all is fine. Or you can take the other road, act like a little girl because your to lazy to open a map and learn you can't take out a base with 2 sets of lancs any more. which took a bumbling squad of morons 8 sets before the update so now they need to recruit 8 more people so maybe they can kill the base with 16 sets.

I am just impressed that you memorized the base layouts in 15 seconds. Spent all night and still havent memorized them... :aok
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: usvi on July 23, 2010, 10:02:31 AM
Change is BAD! (sarcasm intended)
(http://bader-gottlieb.net/030127/fit.jpg)
Instead of trashing a new system,try helping to make it better.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: lulu on July 23, 2010, 12:37:32 PM
Fugitive said,

"Rios, the sound system was changed to accommodate NEW sounds they plan on adding down the road. Once the new sounds are in having 150 sliders (just a guess) to adjust sounds is NOT newb friendly. Give it a little time for them to get it sorted out."

It is not necessary to have 150 or 1500 sliders, just a list from which to choose the sound that it needs to change.
Simple!?
I think yes.

 :salute
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 23, 2010, 12:45:58 PM
Fugitive said,

"Rios, the sound system was changed to accommodate NEW sounds they plan on adding down the road. Once the new sounds are in having 150 sliders (just a guess) to adjust sounds is NOT newb friendly. Give it a little time for them to get it sorted out."

It is not necessary to have 150 or 1500 sliders, just a list from which to choose the sound that it needs to change.
Simple!?
I think yes.

 :salute

 :rofl

A simple list of 1500?

Simplicity is the goal, having a thousand sound sliders for a bunch of sounds that you don't even know what they are is not really newbie friendly.  That why no other games do that.

If you want to ditch a sound altogether, you can use a blank .wav file as your custom sound.


wrongway

We are going to have to make some adjustments to individual sounds and try to find a happy medium on different sound volume levels on different setups.  Aside from that, custom sounds still work so you can always put in a different sound.





Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: dedalos on July 23, 2010, 12:52:44 PM
Fugitive said,

 Give it a little time for them to get it sorted out."

 :salute

And there is always the sorting it out, before rolling it out  :aok
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2010, 12:54:03 PM
Fugitive said,

"Rios, the sound system was changed to accommodate NEW sounds they plan on adding down the road. Once the new sounds are in having 150 sliders (just a guess) to adjust sounds is NOT newb friendly. Give it a little time for them to get it sorted out."

It is not necessary to have 150 or 1500 sliders, just a list from which to choose the sound that it needs to change.
Simple!?
I think yes.

 :salute

having a list won't resolve the problem, instead of having 150+ sliders now you have 150+ sounds in a list.  


ack-ack
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
And there is always the sorting it out, before rolling it out  :aok

If you weren't paying attention, HiTech did release a test version (3 of them) for us to test.  Maybe if more people had done so, they wouldn't be having so many problems as they would have been discovered during the testing so adjustments could be made to the final release.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: whiteman on July 23, 2010, 12:57:11 PM
And there is always the sorting it out, before rolling it out  :aok

i thought this game was like a giant non stop open beta, not everything is going to be perfect out of the gate. I'm going to guess things HTC staff don't deem a problem are probably going to get some peoples panties in a wad.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 23, 2010, 01:01:25 PM
Sorry AH2 staff I know you guys worked your butts off on this but im not a fan. I think the days of base takes and war wins is gone or on the way out. looks like a furballers dream though so im sure Sunbat and Griz will be pleased. Perhaps you may keep one arena with the old version sound and layouts for the old farts with bad eyes.
I thinks my days is numbered.

EZRhino

When I first read your post I thought you had to be joking but when I realized you were being serious, I had to bust out laughing.

(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/20/ROFLMAO.jpg)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Sloehand on July 23, 2010, 01:21:39 PM
Change is BAD! (sarcasm intended)
(http://bader-gottlieb.net/030127/fit.jpg)
Instead of trashing a new system,try helping to make it better.

Why would you even post something like this?  Do you like insulting people wholesale?  You think absolutely no one among the many who do not like the new sound situation has a valid concern?  Do you actually think none of those people may have tried to adust everything in sight, but since the whole point of the change was to reduce player's options with the sounds, they can't reach a happy medium for themselves?  Are you so ego-centric/self-centered that you can't at least consider someone else's concerns might be real and valid?  Why in the heck aren't YOU helping to make things better for others instead of trashing people?!!
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: gyrene81 on July 23, 2010, 01:27:26 PM
Why would you even post something like this?
Yes

Do you like insulting people wholesale?
Yes

You think absolutely no one among the many who do not like the new sound situation has a valid concern?
NO, especially when it's a whine and not an posted in the bugs reports or technical support forums with a dxdiag and explanation of the issue.


Do you actually think none of those people may have tried to adust everything in sight, but since the whole point of the change was to reduce player's options with the sounds, they can't reach a happy medium for themselves? 
That was not the whole point of the change and the complete lack of understanding or desire to understand the reasons behind the change doesn't deserve any more respect than the large number of "this suxxorz" posts that pop up every time something is changed.


Are you so ego-centric/self-centered that you can't at least consider someone else's concerns might be real and valid?
Yes

Why in the heck aren't YOU helping to make things better for others instead of trashing people?!!
Doing my part, passing information as I have it and not posting whines all over the place just because I think I can.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: KTM520guy on July 23, 2010, 01:27:46 PM
I can't comment on the sounds yet but the thread title is full of win.  :rock  :lol



 :noid
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Dichotomy on July 23, 2010, 01:31:13 PM
what? I didn't hear you it's too loud in here :D
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: gyrene81 on July 23, 2010, 01:43:58 PM
what? I didn't hear you it's too loud in here :D
Hang on, let me turn the engine off.  :rofl
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: Sloehand on July 23, 2010, 01:47:21 PM
Yes
Yes
NO, especially when it's a whine and not an posted in the bugs reports or technical support forums with a dxdiag and explanation of the issue.

That was not the whole point of the change and the complete lack of understanding or desire to understand the reasons behind the change doesn't deserve any more respect than the large number of "this suxxorz" posts that pop up every time something is changed.

Yes
Doing my part, passing information as I have it and not posting whines all over the place just because I think I can.


Just like a Marine, all butt and no brain.   :D 

None of it was directed at you.  Bet you pick at scabs, too.
Title: Re: Congrat HiTech--Best Ideas Since New Coke & Pepsi Free
Post by: dedalos on July 23, 2010, 01:48:45 PM
having a list won't resolve the problem, instead of having 150+ sliders now you have 150+ sounds in a list.  


ack-ack

I fail to see why that is a problem.  Obviously it isn't.  HT probably has something else in mind that has nothing to do with this.  Maybe the new sounds don;t allow these settings  or changing them degrades performance or some other issue.  Only he can tell us.  At list I hope so, because if the problem really is that we would have 150 items in a list box, all I can do is laugh  :rofl

I am going to use your next comment with our traders.  I ll just release something in alpha or beta first and if it causes problems when in production I ll blame them for not testing it properly.  I ll let you know if anyone gets upset  :rofl