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Title: TIGER vs ????
Post by: DERK13 on July 22, 2010, 08:50:17 PM
ok well ive often come into contact with many tigers but every tank i uped would simple get killed by it so what id like to see in the next update would be a panther or another heavy tank killer ive heard of 1 tank that has a 90mm cannon but forgot what its called if you have any info on it plz post it
 thanks 69Cougar
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 22, 2010, 09:02:09 PM
ok well ive often come into contact with many tigers but every tank i uped would simple get killed by it so what id like to see in the next update would be a panther or another heavy tank killer ive heard of 1 tank that has a 90mm cannon but forgot what its called if you have any info on it plz post it
 thanks 69Cougar

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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: DEECONX on July 22, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Me thinks you need to do some more research.  :old:

Also, alot of the tanks in game can handle a Tiger. Just gotta make sure the Tiger don't handle YOU!  :neener:
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Scherf on July 22, 2010, 09:08:59 PM
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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: DeViouS1 on July 22, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
WoW!!!  :O 90mm?? Even if a superior tank WERE to be put into the game to trump the Tiger, then what would stop you from having the same problem with this new tank?? It would become the new Tiger. My advise, aim for the turret. The Tiger (along with every other tank) is useless without its gun and becomes a hunk of metal waiting to assplode. Also due to its speed and lack of smoke rounds, it isn't going to run away turreted anywhere either. On top of that, it really pisses the other guy off to know he has a useless perked tank that he can do nothing with but lose.  :rofl  :neener: I know the feeling of having a turreted Tiger and the sense of panic you get while trying to save it. I love instilling that feeling in others.  :x But when all is said and done, if you cant aim accurately enough to be able to pick off its turret, my last advice would be to "Run Forest Run"  :bolt:  <S> DeViouS
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: theNewB on July 23, 2010, 06:50:52 AM
Either flank said Tiger or get a Firefly or 76MM sherman.... all else fails a 1000lber does just fine too. and no I dont want to see a Pershing in game for a while longer.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: JunkyII on July 23, 2010, 06:58:28 AM
Tigers turret will go quite fast if you hit it right. I like to aim for the area between the turret and the hull

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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Masherbrum on July 23, 2010, 07:04:27 AM
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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 23, 2010, 11:11:18 AM
90mm?
M-36?
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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: mbailey on July 23, 2010, 12:20:22 PM
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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: whiteman on July 23, 2010, 01:02:41 PM
something tells me if we get a 90mm monster then you will have a new problem in addition to your Tiger problem. My solution for pesky Tigers is a 1k bomb to their head.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: redcatcherb412 on July 24, 2010, 08:58:54 AM
Make sure you have some HE. You can track a Tiger with a few well aimed round and let the fliers have at it.  Found out you do have to stick around though, a jeep or m3 usually shows up with sups.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: sky25 on July 26, 2010, 07:55:11 AM
I kill Tigers all of the time with a T34/85 HVAP Round. Keep moving at full speed in the T34 and approach it from the side or rear. Easy one shot kill if you get close enough. The Tiger turret is slow. By the time he realizes where you are in relation to him, he is dead. The T34/85 is the best Tiger killer there is in my humble opinion... Do not even try to approach a Tiger from the front. He will kill you. You can shoot at him all day in the front and the round just bounce off. Once you know where he is flank around him for the side or rear shot. The T34/85 is fast and harder to hit when it is moving. Take your kill shot while moving. If you stop, he will kill you...
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: jamdive on July 27, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
There was a tank built in 1944 for the purpose of killing tigers. JS/2 had a 122mm gun. Was capable of shooting all the way through a tiger.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Pongo on July 27, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
Nice M36 shots.
Have to decide how lucky you feel in an open topped vehicle in a world filled with fighter jocks though.
I guess the M8 has the same problem and its a little popular.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Nemisis on July 27, 2010, 11:24:52 PM
WoW!!!  :O 90mm?? Even if a superior tank WERE to be put into the game to trump the Tiger, then what would stop you from having the same problem with this new tank?? It would become the new Tiger.


I'm sorry, but I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not. In case you aren't: You do know that armor penetration comes from not just cannon caliber, but muzzle velocity? The larger caliber the round, the more mass it has. But that mass is uselss without sufficient speed. Just as a 1gram projectile going at 3500ft per second would be useless as well. Kenetic energy= 1/2 M*V^2, so as the projectile slows down, mass helps maintain kenetic energy.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Chalenge on July 28, 2010, 12:30:58 AM
You do realize the Tiger was a totally useless tank right? I mean the production nightmares were self defeating problems that could have been avoided and probably cost more German lives than a more useful tank would have.

Fortunate for the Allies I suppose but of course in AH you get (seemingly) an endless supply.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: jamdive on July 28, 2010, 02:26:35 AM

There is alot more to achieving penetration than just that equation. Looks good in theory though.

Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: jay on August 02, 2010, 06:52:56 AM

I'm sorry, but I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not. In case you aren't: You do know that armor penetration comes from not just cannon caliber, but muzzle velocity? The larger caliber the round, the more mass it has. But that mass is uselss without sufficient speed. Just as a 1gram projectile going at 3500ft per second would be useless as well. Kenetic energy= 1/2 M*V^2, so as the projectile slows down, mass helps maintain kenetic energy.

lol i noticed in hanger that the M8 has a higher muzzle velocity then both M4's totally off topic srry
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: MK-84 on August 02, 2010, 07:20:04 AM
ok well ive often come into contact with many tigers but every tank i uped would simple get killed by it so what id like to see in the next update would be a panther or another heavy tank killer ive heard of 1 tank that has a 90mm cannon but forgot what its called if you have any info on it plz post it
 thanks 69Cougar

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Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 02, 2010, 10:00:46 AM
Three factors to take into consideration when debating AP rounds.

Mass, velocity, and projectile design.

A 5lb cannon ball moving at 3000 fps will not penetrate as well as a typical spire pointed AP round of the same weight and velocity.
Title: Re: TIGER vs ????
Post by: Nemisis on August 02, 2010, 12:48:44 PM
No it won't, but thats because the force of impact is dispersed over a larger area. However, I don't think cannonballs were used to just simply punch holes in the wooden hull of an enemy's ship. Although I don't know how long after the civil war pointed projectiles replaced the round cannon balls. I would guess some time in the mid 1870's or early 1880's.