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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ink on July 25, 2010, 03:28:06 PM
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here ya go....a film of my "stickstirring"
right click and save as, A quick reversal, film is short :aok
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/old_demon_reversal.ahf
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Ink, you know what will happen to this post?
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(http://dasmuppets.com/public/Grizz/Jackson_popcorn.gif)
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here ya go....a film of my "stickstirring"
right click and save as, A quick reversal, film is short :aok
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/old_demon_reversal.ahf
So whats the point of this post? In my opinion this is bad taste and in a small measure shows aspects of this community which could improve.
RealDeal
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So whats the point of this post? In my opinion this is bad taste and in a small measure shows aspects of this community which could improve.
RealDeal
Thank you for your input Mr Shade :aok
Don't have high speed here to DL such things all the time....we need a community vote on whether he was stick-stirring!
(You can ONLY vote once)
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Ink, you know what will happen to this post?
he wanted me to post it so all could see my stick stirring....so I granted his wish.
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he wanted me to post it so all could see my stick stirring....so I granted his wish.
I know, but you know how skuzzy is about it. BTW, good flying there, how did you roll that AC to fast at 0:35:00 sec.?
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we need a community vote on whether he was stick-stirring!
(You can ONLY vote once)
Stick Stir - No
Overshoot Slaughter - Yes
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I know, but you know how skuzzy is about it. BTW, good flying there, how did you roll that AC to fast at 0:35:00 sec.?
HE CHEA*** !!!! :noid
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I vote: Gunnery fail.
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I know, but you know how skuzzy is about it. BTW, good flying there, how did you roll that AC to fast at 0:35:00 sec.?
It's a Ki-84, it does that very well. Solid work INK :aok
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Well personally my big issue is with the actual name of the clip.
It's clearly not a reversal and the poor guy in the 51 clearly couldn't shoot so we have multiple problems.
So something that clearly lays out the technique and the circumstances is called for...
on the other hand there is an obvious smack down involved here so a title that clearly indicates that might be valuable.
After careful consideration....
old_cataracts_goes_down_hard :aok
nice barrel role defense...post that in the help forum...its a great clip to show how you can defend using elevator authority and roll vs "stick stirring" or otherwise flopping around....boy he must have been pissed :D :airplane: :banana: :airplane: :banana: :joystick: :headscratch::O :furious :furious :furious :noid :old: :furious :noid :furious :noid :old: :furious :furious :furious:
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No stick sturring. Ink's nose was pretty calm the entire time. This is "Stick sturring" with a better look. :)
http://www.mediafire.com/?xv88rba87ngg1m7
And view it from "his" plane not mine...excuse my gunnery :)
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1st roll was more aileron than barrel :uhoh, 2nd was perfect BRD/Rolling scissors. nice gunnery too :rock
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HTF does 0LDemon call that stick stirring? That was a mighty fine overshoot there Ink. :joystick:
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HTF does 0LDemon call that stick stirring? That was a mighty fine overshoot there Ink. :joystick:
cause he got shot down, always an excuse
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It's a Ki-84, it does that very well. Solid work INK :aok
Look like a zero. Shows how much i fly IJ ACs.
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No.
Stick stirring is Left, Right, Up, Down, repeat randomly.
Want to see stick stirring? DA lake. And even some of that is more than just stirring.
wrongway
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Now I thought stick stirring was Left, Right then Down instead of Up first. :headscratch: This damned ACM stuff just confuses me too much! :furious
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This film reminds me of...
(http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/o/own3d-12243.jpg)
perdweeb
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HTF does 0LDemon call that stick stirring? That was a mighty fine overshoot there Ink. :joystick:
that's ODs standard wine when he blows the pick. :neener:
I'M just sayin
froger
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Now I thought stick stirring was Left, Right then Down instead of Up first. :headscratch: This damned ACM stuff just confuses me too much! :furious
Hold on, i read it was inside, outside, backwards, forwards and shake it all about. :headscratch:
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Hold on, i read it was inside, outside, backwards, forwards and shake it all about. :headscratch:
NO, it is:
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start......
sheesh......
nOObs.....
:noid
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Why do i saw Oldemon p51 skin as transparent ? :O
1. film viewer bug
2. too much beer
3. he cheats
4. i would like that he cheat ...
:salute
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And even some of that is more than just stirring.
what is "more" than just stirring?
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A perfect over shoot by OlDemon and a good defensive roll and good gunnery i wouldnt moan if that happened to me :) :D Its called having some SKILL i Believe :) :salute
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I'd pile on in support of INK here, but he shot me down yesterday so I'm not talking to him. :P
...so there.
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very nice ink. kinda makes me wonder of all the times i called a 190a5 or ki out for stick stirring. Maybe it looked some what like this. Those rides have uber roll rates and its somewhat amazing that the pilot doesnt go flying out the opposite side of some of those banks (or whack his head). He should have bailed out soon instead of letting himself get caught like that. Demon is alright probably more ticked at himself than anything. I think i would have talked sht too at first (as you know from the multiple times i got caught with your hurri)
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Hey Ink the link doesnt work for me for some reason could you pm me it again. I would like to see the film.
Thanks.
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Everyone has the same moves open to them. Everybody has frustrating gunnery farts. I have seen flopping about that I don't think anyone would use in a real plane, but it's up to HTC to come up with a fix if it bears being fixed. I do think to a certain extent showing dead and six and flopping about can be more effective than realistic defensive maneuvers, which is a crying shame, but what ya gonna do? Don't think this film represents that though.
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Hey Ink the link doesnt work for me for some reason could you pm me it again. I would like to see the film.
Thanks.
Same
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save link as.
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Hey Ink the link doesnt work for me for some reason could you pm me it again. I would like to see the film.
Thanks.
Same
you need to right click it and save as, save it to desktop, then click it, it will open AH film viewer.
and it's
L1-L2-R1-R2-up-left-down-right-up-right-down-left...while holding X. :P
save link as.
so do you tally up the final score?
was it 3< 15,453,765 :rofl
someone was a bit peeved at u....you :cry
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here ya go....a film of my "stickstirring"
right click and save as, A quick reversal, film is short :aok
http://dasmuppets.com/public/INK/old_demon_reversal.ahf
There is one thing you need to know about OlDemon, he's a good guy that's been around for a long time. Having said that, he's always whined and made excuses every time he's been shot down. He's done it since AW days and you just learn to ignore him after a time.
ack-ack
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There is one thing you need to know about OlDemon, he's a good guy that's been around for a long time. Having said that, he's always whined and made excuses every time he's been shot down. He's done it since AW days and you just learn to ignore him after a time.
ack-ack
Him and a noobish yak lost a 2v1 to me on the deck last night and he accused me of warping underground. The best was when kappa killed him 1v1 with no elevators after he had shot both of them off. The cry on 200 stated the bs htc damage model allowed kappa to kill him with no elevators. The other 20 or so times we killed him were in shameless gang pick beatdowns, but instead of taking off from another base, he opted to get give us free and easy kills.
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Him and a noobish yak lost a 2v1 to me on the deck last night and he accused me of warping underground. The best was when kappa killed him 1v1 with no elevators after he had shot both of them off. The cry on 200 stated the bs htc damage model allowed kappa to kill him with no elevators. The other 20 or so times we killed him were in shameless gang pick beatdowns, but instead of taking off from another base, he opted to get give us free and easy kills.
That's just how he is. The other night when I ran into him and shot him down a couple of times, he accused me of spraying and praying and getting lucky with a Golden BB shot every time.
ack-ack
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what is "more" than just stirring?
As near as I can tell, I think it adds rudder stirring and flaps to the combo.
My gunnery sux anyhow and the praying isn't working with the spraying for me.
:pray
wrongway
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Why would anybody pay attention to blowhard like 0lDemon? :headscratch:
He just picks, runs and gangs for his kills. And whines when he gets shot down.
I would have just sent him the film and told him 'you can post it and make a fool of yourself'.
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He just picks, runs and gangs for his kills.
:old:
He may whine a bit, but for anyone who believes the above is true, you're sadly mistaken.
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He may whine a bit, but for anyone who believes the above is true, you're sadly mistaken.
That's my experiance with him from what I seen. Mistaken? Maybe......Sadly? Nah. :devil
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hes a decent stick but does whine a lot. sadly i can't hate on the guy cuz im basically describing myself :aok and a few of my squaddies :D :bolt:
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He's actually not a bad stick but he normally starts with an advantage and relies on a few aggressive pet moves. These serve him well if the other guy simply assumes he's a typical "runstang" and fails to react. It also leaves him very vulnerable vs a good stick...
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He may whine a bit, but for anyone who believes the above is true, you're sadly mistaken.
Yeah i'll agree with that. 0lDemon will get in there a mix it up with the best of em'.
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Why would anybody pay attention to blowhard like 0lDemon? :headscratch:
He just picks, runs and gangs for his kills. And whines when he gets shot down.
I would have just sent him the film and told him 'you can post it and make a fool of yourself'.
:old:
Nah, he fights his butt off on the deck in the P51. But it is a moot point when he whines all night about his plight.
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Just because his gunnery was definately bad there, Im not going to say it was a good/great overshoot but the move did get the job done.
I do see a problem with some people being "jerky" with the stick and it makes it come off bad on the opponents computer.
:salute
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Yeah i'll agree with that. 0lDemon will get in there a mix it up with the best of em'.
When his friends are around he does 'mix it up'...He can summon his friend 3k above to take you out when he gets into trouble.
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well, one thing that i remember about 0ldemon is him mixing it up vs. 4 planes on the deck low and slow- and coming out alive.
he might whine a lot but nothing out of the ordinary, specially if you have 200 tuned. so no, he doesn't pick, gang or run.
excellent maneuvers ink.
:salute
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another possibility is that another player was using oldemon account.
:salute
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:noid
another possibility is that another player was using oldemon account.
:salute
:noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :rofl
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I loved killing 0ldemon always knew a nice whine was coming. Plane has anti-gravity flaps and the guy whines about dieing LoL
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Why is the program code keep changing with the stick string?
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so no, he doesn't pick, gang or run.
:salute
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I recall 0lDemon having the "dirtiest" pony in the game, he liked to flop it around in the mud! Not sure he deserves all this neg attention though. He did like to speek up a bit on 200 but most peeps do at some point. I've had my 200 bouts with him, then he and I got on about business on private, I recall he was just starting one up ( hope it is goin good for him) after that we were cordial even at times when it wasn't called for :D
BTW ki84 will twirl circles around a pony and should come out on top most of the time vs an aggressive pony driver--> IMHO
Anyway kinda hollow when a thread goes on and on and on about someone who isn't here to defend himself :huh
just saying ;)
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Him and a noobish yak lost a 2v1 to me on the deck last night and he accused me of warping underground. The best was when kappa killed him 1v1 with no elevators after he had shot both of them off. The cry on 200 stated the bs htc damage model allowed kappa to kill him with no elevators. The other 20 or so times we killed him were in shameless gang pick beatdowns, but instead of taking off from another base, he opted to get give us free and easy kills.
close.. was a 2v1.. him and a spixteen.. He kept trying to pick me while I was killing the spixteen.. missed like 3 passes but by the time I kilt the 16 I was so slow he got one good shot on me getting a horizontal stab and both my elevators and a flap.. lol but oldemon was so slow as this was like his 4th pass on me all he could do was flair nose up infront of me.. I rolled over and blasted him then the bs on 200 flew! lol I didn't realize i was missing both elevators till just after.. lol was like wtf!? first for me to be shot up like that and still kill the guy on me.. 8)
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I see where you're coming from Shreck and it is definitely taking the proper high ground. That said, I recall last month getting bounced by a falling meteor of a pony while fairly low and slow in my Jug. I rolled away as he overshot low and sped on his merry way. I got off a short burst that took off his left wing and down he went. :rock
His remark on 200 was something about a hack and I'm a cheater etc etc. My take on this is that in the VAST majority of cases, a preemptive negative response to a death is a poor show. Nobody other than you flew your aircraft to the point in space at which it disassembled in flames like Corky's 38G. Cuss at a squaddie for not covering you, shoot a kitten, punt a puppy but why air your suckage on 200 with cheat accusations by default? I know I should learn to enjoy hearing whines on 200 but some people get under my skin from time to time. The number of folks putting in their 2 cents here serves as notice to established individuals that your reputation, like your cartoon doom, is brought on yourself.
WTG INK btw. Very nice. Any time I know I'm going up against you my sense of fair play dictates that I bring at least 4 friendlies with me before engaging you :devil
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I recall 0lDemon having the "dirtiest" pony in the game, he liked to flop it around in the mud! Not sure he deserves all this neg attention though. He did like to speek up a bit on 200 but most peeps do at some point. I've had my 200 bouts with him, then he and I got on about business on private, I recall he was just starting one up ( hope it is goin good for him) after that we were cordial even at times when it wasn't called for :D
BTW ki84 will twirl circles around a pony and should come out on top most of the time vs an aggressive pony driver--> IMHO
Anyway kinda hollow when a thread goes on and on and on about someone who isn't here to defend himself :huh
just saying ;)
I absolutely agree with the Ki-84 statement :aok
He is a decent stick, and I know he will fight, he is one of the only guys to get low and slow against my Hurri in the 51. I just don't understand why every time he excuses his death to somehow the other guy cheating or gamey tactics, I die I know it's my fault or the guy was just better at that moment, I say "nice move" "nice flying" "good shot" or some such thing,even if I am being ganged.
He said to post it I did.
I see where you're coming from Shreck and it is definitely taking the proper high ground. That said, I recall last month getting bounced by a falling meteor of a pony while fairly low and slow in my Jug. I rolled away as he overshot low and sped on his merry way. I got off a short burst that took off his left wing and down he went. :rock
His remark on 200 was something about a hack and I'm a cheater etc etc. My take on this is that in the VAST majority of cases, a preemptive negative response to a death is a poor show. Nobody other than you flew your aircraft to the point in space at which it disassembled in flames like Corky's 38G. Cuss at a squaddie for not covering you, shoot a kitten, punt a puppy but why air your suckage on 200 with cheat accusations by default? I know I should learn to enjoy hearing whines on 200 but some people get under my skin from time to time. The number of folks putting in their 2 cents here serves as notice to established individuals that your reputation, like your cartoon doom, is brought on yourself.
WTG INK btw. Very nice. Any time I know I'm going up against you my sense of fair play dictates that I bring at least 4 friendlies with me before engaging you :devil
:salute
:rofl
You are a always a good fight :salute
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That's my experiance with him from what I seen. Mistaken? Maybe......Sadly? Nah. :devil
smae here.....
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Hmm I was there that night.
The only thing I say is I don't believe it was all poor gunnery.
I was in F4u and had nothing but rubber bullets. I don't know if it was lag or what but the bullets just where not connecting.
Sometimes I find If I switch sides I have no problem, and what I think would normally kill me doesn't cause much damage.
Oh and save the " I don't have a clue, and that's not how it works".
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NO, it is:
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start......
sheesh......
nOObs.....
:noid
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee21/CorvetteA12/CONTRA.jpg)
I see your n00b, and raise you dweeb! :D
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Another factor is think we all in different country's and depending on connection speed depends on whether or not you get the kill. I mean a squadie and i did a test we both took off from the same field and he followed me to the almost exact same manoeuvre and when we com paired film times his take-off was actually 4 seconds before me and on my screen i went first and he was behind me. So remember there can be up-to 2-4 seconds difference on your screen than some other players who is 1000 miles away. So he may have thought yes killed him but nope as the other players screen said other wise.
The best thing to explain it is have you ever had a bandit dive at you from either 2 or 10 o'clock high and fire and see all his tracer fly past and not hear a single hit sound. And the next second your wing fly's off in to space EH i bet you have :) that is lag we all have it some way more than other's its a thing we have to get used to. as it takes all those tiny electrons longer to get from Start to a finish thats 1000 miles away than a finish that's 200 miles away.
Argue if you wish :)
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you didnt even read the OP did you?
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you didnt even read the OP did you?
I did i put a nice post up on the first page. But that last one was meant to be part o another topic i just realised that i was in the wrong topic OOOPPPPSSS ( cant wait to get my new Glasses i may even shoot better in the Game lol :lol ) :)
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When his friends are around he does 'mix it up'...He can summon his friend 3k above to take you out when he gets into trouble.
I've never run into that with Oldemon. I've had some great fights on the deck 38G to his 51D. Never had a whine after I got him or if he got me for that matter. Always a good fair fight in my experience.
For what it's worth
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I've never run into that with Oldemon. I've had some great fights on the deck 38G to his 51D. Never had a whine after I got him or if he got me for that matter. Always a good fair fight in my experience.
For what it's worth
it may have been awhile since ya fought him, I think he is becoming jaded, we had awesome fights a few years ago no whine or complain just <S>'s , but something changed in him, now he always whines,at least that is what I have seen from him now a days.
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it may have been awhile since ya fought him, I think he is becoming jaded, we had awesome fights a few years ago no whine or complain just <S>'s , but something changed in him, now he always whines,at least that is what I have seen from him now a days.
Probably playing too much then and caught up in the "I'm so good, I can't ever lose fairly" bit that so many folks go through. Always the fine line between being competitive and taking this so seriously you think it matters :)
We've all been there I believe.
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is this real or a game? your both are good sticks that i can beat so get over it sheesh
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjWC4qdMj4LjyBnBvKYma1lbMO6s7O_SHFJwfhT5YLfSNLqD4&t=1&usg=__g8YYP5MtlHQ2c8uZGvoX8SLpb48=)
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is this real or a game? your both are good sticks that i can beat so get over it sheesh
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjWC4qdMj4LjyBnBvKYma1lbMO6s7O_SHFJwfhT5YLfSNLqD4&t=1&usg=__g8YYP5MtlHQ2c8uZGvoX8SLpb48=)
Yea, i think a lot of the good stick forget that they too will get shot down.
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Yea, i think a lot of the good stick forget that they too will get shot down.
im guilty to but to bring it to the bbs is just taking things a weee bit to serious IMO
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im guilty to but to bring it to the bbs is just taking things a weee bit to serious IMO
Serious business on the boards here. :D
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im guilty to but to bring it to the bbs is just taking things a weee bit to serious IMO
It is fact, not attacking anyone.
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All I see is a nice defence from Ink :aok
:salute
BigRat
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OK 5 pages and 0LDemon ain't showed up. Kind of bad taste to talk about him when he can't reply.
Everyone is welcome to flame me though. I'm here everyday. :D
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OK 5 pages and 0LDemon ain't showed up. Kind of bad taste to talk about him when he can't reply.
Having known 0LDemon for many years, harking back to our AW days, if he did read this I know what his reply would be.
<GRINNNNNNNNNNNNN>
ack-ack
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I tried to get him to come comment and admit to No stick stirring, he says he don't care.
Ty Bag
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I'm dumb :confused:
What exactly is stick stirring? :huh
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I'm dumb :confused:
What exactly is stick stirring? :huh
---> :joystick:
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doesnt that lock your controls?
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It's an art.
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It's an art.
It is a art and science.
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So whats the point then? who cares about it?
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So whats the point then? who cares about it?
This might be the smartest thing anybody has stated in this thread!! :aok
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So whats the point then? who cares about it?
because when you use solid ACM against someone, being called a "stick stirrer" is an insult, plain and simple, and I don't take kindly to being insulted.
someone insults me and then says post it, I post it.
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because when you use solid ACM against someone, being called a "stick stirrer" is an insult, plain and simple, and I don't take kindly to being insulted.
someone insults me and then says post it, I post it.
As the game now stands, stick stirring IS "solid ACM".
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because when you use solid ACM against someone, being called a "stick stirrer" is an insult, plain and simple, and I don't take kindly to being insulted.
someone insults me and then says post it, I post it.
You probably warped underground on Oldemon's end, which is why he thought you were stick stirring. Well, that's probably what he would have us believe if he were "here" to defend himself. :lol
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I have fought Demon a few times .Nothing but good times.. one a side note
I used to wing with a player that is so jadded now that it must really suck to be him. sad to see really. You never know whats really going on in RL with these people so i dont take it personal... I hope all is well.
<S>
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I don't take kindly to being insulted.
You're a big poo-poo head.
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You're a big poo-poo head.
STEVE I TOLD YOU THAT IN CONFIDENCE!!!!!!! you promised you wouldn't tell anyone!!!!!!!
Stick stirring is a bad thing???? well when i have a red guy 200 off my six and have tried everything else i stick stir so well i could be pretending to be a professional paint mixer instead of flying a cartoon airplane!!!
but ya know what i have found? if your opponent has any true skill you may avoid him for a pass maybe 2 but the end result will always be the same, you'll be sipping coffee in the tower while he is laughing about how silly you looked flying your cartoon airplane sideways while inverted with the cartoon pilots face mashed against the cockpit side window!
Ink got the better of Demon in this encounter, Demon should have saluted the reversal no matter how it was obtained or just kept his mouth shut. I know without a doubt that if it had been Ink that was reversed and then towered he would have been typing his <<S>> nice shot before his graphics card had finished processing his view of the tower.
people gotta grow up and stop acting like squeakers!!!!!!!
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You're a big poo-poo head.
:furious :furious :furious
all right the gloves are off...me and you fista cuffs.....the winner gets your corvette...."hey what's that" says INK....Steve says...."What, where".....INK pulls a classic pacerr move and snipes Steve while he is preoccupied......
INK......... waving........ drives away in his new corvette....to trade it in for a new Challenger....... :D
As the game now stands, stick stirring IS "solid ACM".
:rofl
You probably warped underground on Oldemon's end, which is why he thought you were stick stirring. Well, that's probably what he would have us believe if he were "here" to defend himself. :lol
NO Grizz you are the one with the.... warp...Aim...acm...bot...hey wait...... are you even real...... holy crap :O.......... you are a bot.........I have discovered the truth......it's a CONSPIRACY i tell you all...... :noid
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STEVE I TOLD YOU THAT IN CONFIDENCE!!!!!!! you promised you wouldn't tell anyone!!!!!!!
Stick stirring is a bad thing???? well when i have a red guy 200 off my six and have tried everything else i stick stir so well i could be pretending to be a professional paint mixer instead of flying a cartoon airplane!!!
but ya know what i have found? if your opponent has any true skill you may avoid him for a pass maybe 2 but the end result will always be the same, you'll be sipping coffee in the tower while he is laughing about how silly you looked flying your cartoon airplane sideways while inverted with the cartoon pilots face mashed against the cockpit side window!
Ink got the better of Demon in this encounter, Demon should have saluted the reversal no matter how it was obtained or just kept his mouth shut. I know without a doubt that if it had been Ink that was reversed and then towered he would have been typing his <<S>> nice shot before his graphics card had finished processing his view of the tower.
people gotta grow up and stop acting like squeakers!!!!!!!
lol you have always had a way with words brother :salute
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*Shrug* Stick stirring is tactic currently possible with the present modeling that quite achieves the desired effect. I don't particularly like that fact, but there you go.
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People also make the false assumption that just because you've used a spin to avoid an attack you were "stick stirring".
Last night to avoid a shot being made on me and to gain the overshoot at the same time, I used full left rudder and opposite full right aileron while pushing the nose down, did a half spin to avoid the guns pass and gained an overshoot that allowed me to damage the bandits engine as he pulled into the vertical on the overshoot. The other guy sent me repeated PMs calling me a stick stirring n00b when all I did was a legitimate spin and in no way 'stick stirred' to acheive it. The spin maneuver I did was a favorite of Hartmann's that I've started to call it the "Hartmann Escape".
ack-ack
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I've started to call it the "Hartmann Escape".
ack-ack
Hmmm I've always thought the Hartmann escape was when you fart in the office at work and then get up real fast and shut the door closing the manager and asst manager in there with your stanky
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Hmmm I've always thought the Hartmann escape was when you fart in the office at work and then get up real fast and shut the door closing the manager and asst manager in there with your stanky
That's the Fartman Escape, totally different maneuver.
(http://www.mtv.com/content/ontv/vma/archive/images/1992/flipbook/1992_fartman2.jpg)
ack-ack
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That's the Fartman Escape, totally different maneuver.
(http://www.mtv.com/content/ontv/vma/archive/images/1992/flipbook/1992_fartman2.jpg)
ack-ack
don't laugh...don't...err h...ha....hahaha....damn :rofl :rofl :rofl :cry :cry :rofl :rofl :furious :old:
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my bad :rofl
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Ty Bag
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Did someone get me confused with BagRat again :lol, I told that guy to quit impostering (< is that a word) me.
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BigRat
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Did someone get me confused with BagRat again :lol, I told that guy to quit impostering (< is that a word) me.
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BigRat
doh
sorry bout that :eek:
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*Shrug* Stick stirring is tactic currently possible with the present modeling that quite achieves the desired effect. I don't particularly like that fact, but there you go.
Going way of the post subject. BnZ, your avatar looks like Daniel day Lewis in "Gangs of New York".
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People also make the false assumption that just because you've used a spin to avoid an attack you were "stick stirring".
Last night to avoid a shot being made on me and to gain the overshoot at the same time, I used full left rudder and opposite full right aileron while pushing the nose down, did a half spin to avoid the guns pass and gained an overshoot that allowed me to damage the bandits engine as he pulled into the vertical on the overshoot. The other guy sent me repeated PMs calling me a stick stirring n00b when all I did was a legitimate spin and in no way 'stick stirred' to acheive it. The spin maneuver I did was a favorite of Hartmann's that I've started to call it the "Hartmann Escape".
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Well he got the noob part right :D The manuever is called a forward slip. Its generally used to drop a lot of alt and speed just prior to landing or when desending into the traffic pattern. And I highly doubt that any manuever that requires you to be in a stall first was a favorite of any fighter pilot, least of all one of the greatest pilots of all time. Im just saying...but hey I could be wrong
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People also make the false assumption that just because you've used a spin to avoid an attack you were "stick stirring".
Last night to avoid a shot being made on me and to gain the overshoot at the same time, I used full left rudder and opposite full right aileron while pushing the nose down, did a half spin to avoid the guns pass and gained an overshoot that allowed me to damage the bandits engine as he pulled into the vertical on the overshoot. The other guy sent me repeated PMs calling me a stick stirring n00b when all I did was a legitimate spin and in no way 'stick stirred' to acheive it. The spin maneuver I did was a favorite of Hartmann's that I've started to call it the "Hartmann Escape".
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One nite over TT i was watching you take repeated jabs from folks on 200 about how Akak was doing this or AkAk was doing that, and thought "man i bet he gets tired of hearing that crap every single fight it seems". But then I had to laugh as these clowns were being dispatched to the tower one by one :lol
I kept telling them to be careful. That 38 is AkAk, they would fly your way and then range channel would go silent after a bit. :lol
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Hmmm I've always thought the Hartmann escape was when you fart in the office at work and then get up real fast and shut the door closing the manager and asst manager in there with your stanky
lmao
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That's the Fartman Escape, totally different maneuver.
(http://www.mtv.com/content/ontv/vma/archive/images/1992/flipbook/1992_fartman2.jpg)
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Metallica was pissed at that moment of hilarity. :rock