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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Animal on March 16, 2001, 01:36:00 AM
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http://www.reactorcritical.com/files/Test/3DMark2001.exe (http://www.reactorcritical.com/files/Test/3DMark2001.exe)
Im 97% done downloading it, will post my results.
So far from hardware sites forums the radeon guys are getting the best scores, followed by the Geforce2 cards and FAR behind goes the Voodoo5500.
This new benchmark takes advantage of the latest technology on DirectX8 so if you want to make your system HURT, download this benchmark.
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Ok I downloaded.
Its amazing. But like I expected, It really put my system to work hard.
But its pure joy to put on DEMO MODE, and looking what the near future of gaming will be. Totally cool, wait till you see those trees, they look like diddlying movies.
Anyways, here is my score on this system:
Asus A7V 1006 BIOS
Duron 700 @ 1Ghz 100Fsb
256mb PC133 SDRAM CAS2
GeForce2 GTS 32Mb 6.50 Det. Drivers
ATA/100 7200 20Gb hard disk
Windows 98 SE with latest updates
All latest drivers, system tweaked to near perfection. Score:
1024x768 at 32Bit colors (default benchmark)
2486 3DMarks
Alright people, go ahead and download it. Those with low end systems will weep.
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Ya, those turkeys would release a new benchmark after I have spent a month of more gathering data from the 3DMark2000 benchmark.
Sigh,..I knew it was coming, but I was hoping it would have been a few more months.
Back to the drawing board. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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President, AppLink Corp.
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skuzzy@applink.net
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933p3
128 133rdram
gelforce pro 256 32mb
ATA/100 7200 20Gb hard disk
Windows 98 SE
This is a Dell system , don't know mobo .
1810 with 7.52 drivers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) lol
Nothing is overclocked but
I used Lep's site to setup pc . Plus
Norton's Utilites , speeddisk etc , this
seems to really speed up apps loading .
Animal , it's everything you said and more . Damn the demo is way cool . The shells flying in the air and as you say the trees and grass blowing in the wind is awesome .
Man that benchmark made my pc mini lockup , the first time I ever seen that on this system . Tells me that the benchmark should live for some time (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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1482 3Dmarks here.. 1024x768x32 default bench.
Celeron667@901
Abit BH6
256Mb CAS3 (!)
Geforce256 SDR (Elsa erazor X) not oc'd
Elsa reference drivers, latest.
DX8.0a
Swap management tweaked.
I'm going to upgrade to KT133A + Tbird soon, however this is a pretty nice result from my trusty workhorse =) That ErazorX has served me well for years.
1.06 Aces high runs 59fps for me with 1024x768 32bit.
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3D2000 Benchmarks
1)933 P3 Geforce 1 = 5310
2)500 P3 3Dfx 3500 = 2192
3D2001 needs Direct 8.0 didn't want to try 8.0 yet... everything running fine.
Are 2001 scores different then 3D2000?
doc
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For comparison, my 3DMark2000 score is around 4750.. so yes, its quite a bit different.
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3D2000 , 4456 6.50 drivers
4673 7.52 driver
Yep just as MrSiD says "quite a bit differant" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
maddog , I was a little bit scared to add 8.0a too but I wanted to try out WB3 . Sooooo , well no problems here , tg .
Only comment on new beta WB's is I be staying flying with AH (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Also , could you post drivers u are useing ? I got a big jump changing , havn't used anyothers though .
spro
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hmm
Cel 566@850
128mb/256mb (that doesnt seem to affect one bit in the test results with 3d mark)
TNT2
2000: ~3200 pts.
2001: ~1250 pts.
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airspro you should be getting a much higher score.
are you running the default benchmark? you should tweak that system or something
did you forget to disable FSAA?
you should get scores similar with mine, or even a bit higher
and I am currently getting about 2750 score.
[This message has been edited by Animal (edited 03-17-2001).]
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Hi All,
2383 - Better check out my drivers I think (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Athlon 1GHZ
256mb Ram
ATI Radeon 64MB DDR
30gb ATA 100 HD
Abit KT7 Mobo
And Yes, that Demo is Bloody Amazing.
TTFN
snafu
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Originally posted by Animal:
airspro you should be getting a much higher score.
are you running the default benchmark? you should tweak that system or something
did you forget to disable FSAA?
[This message has been edited by Animal (edited 03-17-2001).]
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) Yep ran the all the test in default . I do have FSAA off .
Last night couldn't get into AH so .
Went back to the 6.50 driver and the 2001 benchmark went to 1826 , the 7.52's were 1810 .
6.50 had a worst test in the 2000 benchmark buy around 220 points . But better in 2001 , they must be better in 32 bit maybe ?
Well Animal this stuff is pretty new to me , but reading a bit more etc on it all . Interesting (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I have been seeing there's some tweak progams but havn't tried or read on them too much yet . Do you know which one works the best and is the safest to use ?
I did do all of Lep's tweak's on his web site , plus use speed disk . That really seemed to help .
Me be thinking that the AMD chip does the job alot better , I havn't the smarts yet to build a system so I bought the best I could find but it was early last summer .
When running the benchmark 2001 I though the system was locking (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) , nope it's part of the shooting , hehe on me , they lock on target then shoot . Man sometimes I can be stupid (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/redface.gif)
spro
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3DMark 2001 score= 3830 and yes when you consider my 3Dmark 2000 score was 9170 i think you can safely say its a lot different.
Btw for me the 10.80 drivers were a couple of hundred points faster than 7.52's
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PentIII 700 (oc'ed to 933)
128megs RAM
SBLive
Win98
Leadtek Enhanced Winfast Geforce2 GTS 64mb
3DMark2001=2869
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I went from a score of 2869 to 3090 when I went from the Nvidia 6.5 to the 10.8 drivers. No change in the Aces High benchmark though.
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Im staying with 11.00 drivers right now...
Now I got all resolutions that the monitor can support (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
So far best 3d mark 2001 results too.. 1234 pts, nice abcd style results.
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Frost,
Download the 11.00 drivers they are much faster and stable than the 10.8 according to many sources.
My score went from 2700+/- (with 6.50) to 2900+/- (with 11.00)
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and FAR behind goes the Voodoo5500
Well 1GHz TB + V5 = 1,777... It is a cumulative result (out of 16 tests) and taking into account that only 12 of those are actually supported by hardware methinks that V5 has got a lot more to give for what it's now worth.
The test results might actually be quite misleading as it is not showing what each test is contributing to overall result...
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Lynx, true, the V5 is a nice card for its price, but it doesnt offer much value in time. It wasnt designed with the future in mind and with 3dfx gone, they cant optimize drivers for Dx8 (like these sweet 11.00 drivers for my geforce)
I plan on having my GF2 until games run slow and there is something like a Geforce 3 Ultra or whatever they plan to release in a few months
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Nothing feels sweeter than facing a skilled enemy 1 on 1, the battle is tough, but you emerge victorious. As he types <S>!!! on channel 1, you open fire on his chute.
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[This message has been edited by Animal (edited 03-21-2001).]
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Downloaded and installed 11.0 drivers for my Geforce2 card. So far my results are 2689 with the 6.50 drivers, 3090 with the 10.80 drivers and 3204 with the 11.0 drivers. Unfortunately all this only added 3 FPS to my Aces High benchmark, but every little bit helps.
PentIII 700 (oc'ed to 935)
Enhanced Leadtek Winfast Geforce2 64mb (clock=250/memory=380)
Abit BX6-R2 (AGPx2)
128 megs RAM
SBlive
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After a bit of tweaking with the 10.80 drivers managed to get my system up to 4098 3Dmark2001.
3DMark Result
(3D marks) 4098
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail
(FPS) 74.6
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail
(FPS) 26.5
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail
(FPS) 69.1
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail
(FPS) 27.4
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail
(FPS) 81.5
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail
(FPS) 38.5
Game 4 - Nature
(FPS) Not available
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)
(MTexels/s) 398.4
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)
(MTexels/s) 756.9
High Polygon Count (1 Light)
(MTriangles/s) 20.4
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)
(MTriangles/s) 3.9
Environment Bump Mapping
(FPS) Not available
DOT3 Bump Mapping
(FPS) 75.6
Vertex Shader Speed
(FPS) 41.4
Pixel Shader Speed
(FPS) Not available
Point Sprite Speed
(MSprites/s) 10.4
Your 3DMark2001 score is
4098
But looks like i better try the 11.00 series from the posts above.
[This message has been edited by 214thCavalier (edited 03-25-2001).]
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So far from hardware sites forums the radeon guys are getting the best scores, followed by the Geforce2 cards and FAR behind goes the Voodoo5500.
Actually 2001 has a bug where it will not identify a 3dfx card or chip so benchmarking can't really be done yet for Voodoo owners...
Lynx, true, the V5 is a nice card for its price, but it doesnt offer much value in time. It wasnt designed with the future in mind and with 3dfx gone, they cant optimize drivers for Dx8 (like these sweet 11.00 drivers for my geforce)
Actually 3dfx put out drivers for DX8 in November of 2000.. this may be optimized or just certified but not sure, but the Voodoo 5 does have DirectX 8 drivers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sorry should post my 3dMark2000 benchmark..
AMD Athlon 850
192mg PC100 RAM
Voodoo 5 5500 Agp
HP Box <blush>
1024x768x16 16bit Zbuffer Hardware T&L
Score = 4419
Bane
13th TAS
[This message has been edited by BaneX (edited 03-26-2001).]
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Hey Bane,
Please post the default benchmark score at 32bit; thats the standard everyone tries to run for comparison.
Yes, 3dfx released drivers that work for DX8, but the card was not optimized for the API. The Geforce has some minor features that work on it, but remember that the v5 was designed as a fill rate monster that would work for present games in mind.
I agree on this approach 3dfx took since when the games taking full advantage of Dx8 will not come out in a while, and then we will not be running V5's or Geforce 2 or 1 (I hope I wont be)
It should take a year or more for us to see game with the visual quality in the forest seen in the 3dmark benchmark
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Celeron 566 @ 765 MHz, 128MB PC-133, GeForce 1 SDR, Win2k, 1024x768, 32bit, hardware T&L, no antialiasing:
5.12 driver: 1314 3D marks
11.01 driver: 1384 3D marks
[This message has been edited by Sancho (edited 03-27-2001).]
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Originally posted by Animal:
Hey Bane,
Please post the default benchmark score at 32bit; thats the standard everyone tries to run for comparison.
Hes using 3D Mark 2000 where default is 16-bit (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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214th Cavalier thats an awesome score, which is your system setup?
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System Info Version: 2.0
Operating System Microsoft Windows 98
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 850mhz @ 1.1GHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
Total Physical Memory: 256MB
Free Physical Memory: 132.79MB
Motherboard Manufacturer: Abit
Motherboard Model: KT7 Raid 8363-686A
Manufacturer: AMD
Family: Athlon(tm)
Internal Clock: 1.10GHz
Internal Clock Maximum: 1.10GHz
External Clock: 100MHz
Socket Designation: Slot A
Type: unknown
Upgrade: Slot 1
Capabilities: MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!
Version: AMD Athlon(TM)
CPUID: 0x00000642
DirectX Version: 8.0
DirectDraw Version : 4.08.00.0400
DirectShow Version: 6.03.01.0400
Description: Primary Display Driver
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Name: NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra
Total Local Video Memory: 64MB
Total Local Texture Memory: 64MB
Total AGP Memory: 56MB
Display Driver: nvdisp.drv
Display Driver Version: 4.13.01.1080
Max Texture Width : 2048
Max Texture Height: 2048
Manufacturer: Abit
Model: KT7 Raid 8363-686A
Version: N/A
BIOS Vendor: Award Software International, Inc.
BIOS Version: 6.00 PG
BIOS Release Date: 12/28/2000
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 98
Version: 4.10.2222 A
Desktop Width: 1024
Desktop Height: 768
Desktop BPP: 32
I think that about covers it, note its not the newer KT7A Raid version motherboard.
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Celery 366@550
128mb ram
powercolor gf2 mx 32mb
w98se
6.50 drivers 1310
11.00 drivers 1448
1024x768x32bit 2dmark 2001
SKurj
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WEll my 2001 MArk score was 1598 but thats running Software T&L.. for some reason it won't run the first game test under the Hardware T&L on my voodoo 5...
Hey 214th.. I have the same cpu chip but 2001 won't detect any of the information such as socket type and so on (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) Guess I need to hit the help boards and see whats goin on..
Bane
13th TAS
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It wont run with Hardware T&L because V5 has no hardware T&L
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It wont run with Hardware T&L because V5 has no hardware T&L
Actually it does have Hardware T&L... you can run it with hardware t&l in 3dMark2000. My best benchmark in 2000 was the default Hardware T&L.
Bane
13th TAS
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My apologies Animal.. I found it that in fact it doesn't have Hardware T&L.. only something that simulates it when you enable the geometry assist on the voodoo 5.
Bane
13th TAS
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Hehe that thing choked the hell outta my system. Looks like its time to scrap my trusty old Geforce 256 SDR.
3dMark 2000 score was 4900.
3dMark 2001 score was 1945 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
1ghz Athlon T-bird
Soyo K7VTA-B mobo
256mb PC133 RAM
Elsa Erazor X Geforce 256 32mbSDR
DX8.0a
Win98SE
Elsa drivers based on Nvidia 7.5.6 reference
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Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerrkorps.com)
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11.01 driver up 3d2001 by 100 points , and they look just as good as the 6.50's I was using .
When I tried the 11.00 was not looking "right" , flickering etc .
AH benchmark , no differance , 1024 by 768 32 bit
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Originally posted by Raubvogel:
Hehe that thing choked the hell outta my system. Looks like its time to scrap my trusty old Geforce 256 SDR.
3dMark 2000 score was 4900.
3dMark 2001 score was 1945 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
1ghz Athlon T-bird
Soyo K7VTA-B mobo
256mb PC133 RAM
Elsa Erazor X Geforce 256 32mbSDR
DX8.0a
Win98SE
Elsa drivers based on Nvidia 7.5.6 reference
Funny, I get less points in 2000, but more in 2001.
Might be because of 16-bit test where Radeon isn't in part of challenger, unlike with 32-bit.