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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Minotaur on May 17, 2000, 01:31:00 PM
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Somehow torque and the F4U-1C have become one and the same. Get a clue, they are not.
He pays his $30.
It gets old.
It is a pointless whine.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
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LOL... the guy flys and dies like all of us.
His plane is as vulnerable as any other blue brick
His cannons are no more or less lethal than any other blue bricks
His blue brick is only one of many.. identical in every way to the one you fly if thats yer bird.
He must maintain SA just like all of us
He's gotta protect his buds or get no help.. just like all of us.
So what's the problem??
He's just better at pulling the tools together and using thim effectivly than most of us. This don't make him public enemy #1.. I'm amazed and impressed.. not pissed and jealous.
Salute; Torque. Keep up the good work. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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HA
some more touque zombies...and in my own squad
He just has you mesmerized whith his charm and good wit!
Dont listen! It is evil incarnate!
brought to you by the commity for antagonism in online simulations..
[This message has been edited by Pongo (edited 05-17-2000).]
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Charm?? Good wit??
ROFL!
U are talkin about Torque?? Yes??
"Blame Canada!"
Hang
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I find it odd that some of the players constantly asking for more of a challange (no icons,HA, etc.) have never been in sniffing distance of the top 10. I have never read that type of post by torque. I would guess he still finds this to be a challange.
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I'm amazed anyone has any issue with torque...he simply has the best SA/snapshot ability I've seen in the game. If you give him an opening he'll hammer your ass...as for piloting ability..i can recall 4-5 times chasing that nikki down...kind of like my dog and porcupines...there are somethings you just don't want to catch (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). I'd rather have him in the 1-c (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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I have been in the top ten, but I still find that comment condescending and insulting.
For the record, the sentiment expressed has been more of "I have this in mind for what I want to do in AH" than "The MA just doesn't provide any challenge".
Myself, I will split my time all over the place. I don't have to choose one over the other, and I won't. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I don't begrudge you the right to play as you will, nor would I intimate you are good or bad based on your rank. That concept is flawed, as anyone who has followed that topic well knows. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Let's not turn what has been a positive thread negative. No one in the SEA has asked to change a smidgeon of what the MA is (since they get that "fix" in the SEA).
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Originally posted by easymo:
I find it odd that some of the players constantly asking for more of a challange (no icons,HA, etc.) have never been in sniffing distance of the top 10. I have never read that type of post by torque. I would guess he still finds this to be a challange.
You're assuming yet again that other players care anything about points. The goal of the game is having fun. If being in the top ten is fun for you, great. For others, the fun comes from an ultrarealistic historic environment without icons.
I fail to see where ranking on the scoreboard has anything to do with this.
-- Todd/DMF
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Originally posted by easymo:
I find it odd that some of the players constantly asking for more of a challange (no icons,HA, etc.) have never been in sniffing distance of the top 10.
Easymo, been there done that, was a top-ten monkey in WB's back when the scoring came out, it got boring, obsessive, and I found out that squads are more fun.
BTW, who's Torque?
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 05-17-2000).]
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ALthough all of you know what I think about that turbolaser plane and those "death ray" Hispanos, I must agree. Torque would outstand in any cannon plane. His snapshot ability is incredible, I have tasted it more than once (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). And I agree if I go into a F4UC I'd never get the streaks he gets...
I still remember that day,when I was a newbie, I saw him raising a 7-kill streak. when he got the eighth I asked him on private "how do you kill so many planes?". He answered me asking if I wanted to join him. I couldnt do it, I was then in rookland and I didnt want to change sides to Bishland...but I still remember and am grateful for that offer.
Its not the plane, but the man. <S> Torque you are a fighter ace.
(Said that...F4U1-C SUCKS!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 05-17-2000).]
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Easymo,
Every sport Ive ever done that I have tried to maintain a top 10 attitude I have suffered in some other more important part of my life. Now I run, for fun, I bike for fun, and I play combat sims for fun.
I dont give a squat about top ten in anything except being the best person I can be to my fellowman, and thats a big enough challenge for us all.
Dont get me wrong, I rant and rave when I make a stupid move and go down in flames, and I care about performance, but its not my main focus.
As far as the no icon, historical arena, I think it would be a blast, and I know I'd be sucking hind teet in there too. And maybe just maybe some of the top ten main arena guys would be just plain mediocre pilots in such an arena. I mean if you care that much about standing why make a change to something you might have to readjust too.
Some guys will always be the tops in the same ole, same ole.
JagdNine
[This message has been edited by NineZ (edited 05-17-2000).]
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OKayyyy. Let me try this another way. There are'nt to many people in the arena that make me set up in my chair. But torque is one of them. I am glad he is there for that reason. Im glad he likes the 1c. As a bonus. He doesnt whine about what the game should be. He optimizes what the game has to offer.
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If it gets old, why start this thread?
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Much better Easymo. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Don't make us hunt you. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I can agree with this to a point, Easymo. Sometimes I think people whine, sometimes they offer constructive suggestions.
Take your request for a combat arena. I think that would be fine, and I would go there too. I didn't think you were whining to suggest it.
Some guys decided they could use the SEA to try out some ideas for an iconless HA. I went there to see what it was like for myself, in order to form an informed opinion. There are problems yet, but it appears to be a step in the right direction. Again, not whining, just people using what is available to make the best of a situation. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
There are other ideas that get floated; scenarios, TOD, pylon races... you get the idea. I think they are all good ideas, and only require the right people to drive them to make them work.
But back to the topic- Torque is great and we all know it. His name has been unfairly tied to the F4U-1C topic, and anyone who thinks that plane is the secret to his success simply doesn't know him at all... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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the question is, though, could Torque pull off his 8-10kill sorties flying the -1D instead of the over-modeled-hispano DweebC
Those who can't kill with .50s fly cannon
[This message has been edited by CavemanJ (edited 05-17-2000).]
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I have to say, I would really like to BASH torque just once......
I flown with him since 1995/96 when he was 'ppit' and I was 'dach'.
The score is:
Torque (ppit) = 1,325
Badger (dach) = 0
Hmmmmm......then you wonder why he makes me paranoid.....
One hell of a great virtual on-line pilot in my book.
He will never be our (Canada) next ambassador to the UN.
Just my comments on an old virtual friend.......
Regards,
Badger
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he uses every cheap trick in the book to keep his zombies happy . i dont like him cause he is a win by any means type guy we all know where that leads. i walk away from many fights thinkin wow i got out flown and love it . i walk away frome most meetings with him thinkin somthing was wrong and he souldent have won. alot of others have expressed this view. and i see no reason to let yall talk him up p.s. i pay my 30 bucks and will say what i please.
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LOL, whada you meen he shouldn't have won? I dont understand, please clarify.
SimHQ thinks rather highly of him (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
"Torque plays a heavy role in the flight characteristics of all single-engine aircraft, and is very pronounced at times. It seems appropriately modeled, at least in how it effects the flight model at various conditions."
ROFL
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Lizardicus of The Screamin Meanies
"Never take counsel of your fears."
T.J.(Stonewall) Jackson
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OH MY!
Hey now, after many times of hunting him down in WB ACA and flying against him, I got say he is good.......real good. BUT he can be killed!
Just the other night at A37, he paid HBLAIR and I a compliment by saying he been tryin to avoid us two for 2 years......LOL
I'll be the first to admit he is a better SA pilot than I am, and he knows how to ride that stall horn, but if your persisent, you can shoot him down, it ain't easy, you'll die alot doin it, but OH MY it feels so fine when ya do get him.
I came over from WB ACA, where the flight model was ez mode, one thing about ACA that ya can ask Torque, Easymo, HBlair and many others about is the great tool it was for learning SA. And that my friends is why Torque is so hard to kill, he keeps that head moving, dives in ON HIS TERMS, not the enemies, and gets the advantage, hence the kill.
AND rarely will ya see Torque arrogant about his skill. He's kinda like this:
Trophy (http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/rowgue/arrogent.ra)
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[This message has been edited by milnko (edited 05-17-2000).]
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I killed Torque twice in one night. Both times I died shortly after the meeting while typing "I just killed torque" to a squadmate.
AKDejaVu
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Torque is just plain good. Flying the F4U-C1 or not. You can get yourself in a bad situation in that plane if your not good. He makes it sing, and there is nothing wrong with that!
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Swager
I/JG2~Richthofen~
"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
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[This message has been edited by Swager (edited 05-17-2000).]
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LOLOLOLOLOL sheez I just can't help it I am rolling on the floor. Torque is a good pilot but he dies (right Torque wink). Anyhow take heart Torque anyone who is talked about this much has some type of ability LOLOLOLOLOL
BigJim
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Quote, towd:
"i walk away from many fights thinkin wow i got out flown and love it . i walk away frome most meetings with him thinkin somthing was wrong and he souldent have won."
Not sure I understand this. Since you've had yer sights set on Torque fer the last 1/2 century, perhaps some specifics are finally in order.
OTOH, if yer gonna simply chalk it up to some kinda cheating, save yer breath. I don't think anyone's buyin'.
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Torque is *right on* and a helluva nice guy to boot.
Yeager
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
"Blame Canada!"
Hang
FOCLMAO !
Torque is a great chap (he's been Knight for a couple of days & I had the chances to fly alongside him...). That bloke must have an outstanding SA, to tell the tuth, everytime I see a blue bird, I tell myself: "ok, let's pray this ain't Mr Cannon O' matic"...
It's not the plane that I fear up there, it's "the man behind the wheels"...
<S!> to you man...
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Hey, I like torque. He kills, doesn't taunt and doesn't whine. He seems to enjoy himself online. I'm sure when he graduates to the F4U-1D, he'll be a really scary pilot. Besides, since he kills and doesn't flaunt it, it feels really good when you finally whack him.
Dinger
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And he doesn't brag, unlike many people on this here board.
Required Public Disclosure information:
dinger has 5 kills and has been killed 2 times against torque.
okay, okay, perhaps I was a little optimistic; this is more representative:
dinger has 0 kills and has been killed 2 times against torque in the F4U-1C.
Sigh. Back to work.
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Originally posted by Dago:
If it gets old, why start this thread?
Sorry Dago... Hacks me off sometimes, and my hackith runnith over to here.
My "Pissed Me Off" button got pushed too hard. This caused my nose to get bent and my arse to become tweaked. My unwise typing fingers to begin twitching uncontrolably over the keyboard in silly arrogance (Which I can't even spell correctly).
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew