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Title: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on August 08, 2010, 09:11:53 PM: I had a thought, and I had a rare bit of free time this weekend, so I put something together for Philippine Phandango's patch.

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/philphan2.jpg)

And here it is small to get an idea of what the "resolution" might be on a real patch. Note the text is preliminary, I'd like to have it more symmetrical:

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/philphan2_small.jpg)

The description of the design:

Dances ("Phandangos" if you will) are a back and forth, give and take, and given the fact that this focuses on Asian forces fighting Western forces, I thought it would be good to incorporate the yin/yang into it.

That decided, I wanted to incorporate a give and take that subtly included both national emblems... I started with pure red underneath the US star, but thought it might not look quite right, so I changed that to a rising sun (a bit more distinguishable), and this also set me apart from the Rangoon patch which I did not want to be acused of copying.

The swirling pattern in the center plays host to the swirling ships and their wake as the bombs fall around them. Not only inspired by historic footage and photos, it also allowed me to include the "dots" in the yin/yang symbol as bomb splashes.

I wasn't sure if using red around the text would be too much, or if folks would understand that the red would be a "meatball" or what. I would like the text off-angle like that (rather than centered top/bottom) to further emphasize the dynamic and ever-changing balances in war and in dance.

Before you reply with comments, let me point out that the colors in photoshop are not necessarily how it will look in patch form. Sometimes the colors look gaudy or harsh to the LCD-viewing eye but in real world lighting conditions the embroidery looks much better and more appealing. That said these colors can be tweaked but I wanted the STAR to be more silver/grey to set it apart (bright and contrast wise) from the rising sun.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: maddafinga on August 09, 2010, 12:10:09 AM: Actually, I love it man.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: skribetm on August 09, 2010, 04:28:38 AM: i like it too, but pls. take off the ships.
maybe use a carrier + destroyer instead.

great job!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BoilerDown on August 09, 2010, 10:39:36 AM: I like the ships. And I think that's a great patch idea. I don't know what detail a patch can go into though... can you make em look like the AH ships (carrier and a cruiser maybe) or is that too high res for a patch?
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: K-KEN on August 09, 2010, 06:16:52 PM: I am thinking a few red blood drippings off the right side of the stats point. Might be appropriate! :)

Love the clean design
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 10, 2010, 01:55:08 PM: :O That's a nice Patch! I had the same thought and was working on one as well... This is the first time I've tried to create a patch. I think I like scrennies better; they're way easier! :lol

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i38/westoaksplaza/Patch4v2GIF.gif)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i38/westoaksplaza/Patch4v1GIF.gif)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: SIK1 on August 10, 2010, 04:47:36 PM: Krusty I like it. I see that my participation in frame one is represented by the two flaming craters. :aok
I like the ships, but maybe they should be pointed at each other instead of heading in the same direction. That part just seems a little off. I can't really put my finger on it though, and that was the first thing the jumped out at me. Also maybe a little more of the Japanese flag. If you made the star white you could have some of the red from the Japanese flag blend across it. The patch seems very pro US with the star on a large blue field, and only a small portion of the Japanese flag.

BMathis I like your design too. Yours is more balanced US v Japan. I think I would prefer all the writing around the outer edge with PP centered across the top. Maybe the ship vertical on a red background from both the US and Japanese flag. I think your design needs more of the blue of the US flag, also a 48 star flag might give it more of that nostalgic feel to it.

Just my two cents which now a days won't even buy a piece of gum.

Great work both of you. :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on August 10, 2010, 08:39:30 PM: Boiler/skribe: It's hard to tell what's a ship. I chose a very iconic shape that most folks might recognize. If I put a carrier in there it's a long narrow rectangle. People won't get there's a ship there with a bow and stern. Also there won't be much details at this level of stitch resolution, so I didn't want a picture of a carrier or a picture of a cruiser.

kken: I shied away from a "meatball" underneath the US star because I didn't want folks to see it as a "sea of blood" -- it can be seen as too much of a one-sided representation (that the US is the ocean and they're being made to bleed, or that they're spilling the enemy's blood into the ocean) rather than showing both symbols. That's why I moved more towards the rising sun.

bmathis: I like the general design, but try shrinking it down to 250x250 (just as a sample test, keep your original large files to work with) then look at that. I bet you won't be able to see the text very well. I might suggest making the letters larger down the middle and the "beige band" wider, and maybe set the text around the edge on a solid border (like the BOB patches, etc). Only real problem is the plane shapes don't show up so well on patches, especially if you make more details like pitot tubes etc.

Sik1: Those craters actually better represent my 2 end results in the practice and the first frame! I plowed in 2 frames in a row while dive bombing. Splash! Splash! (those are me) heh heh! But you really can't blend colors in patches that are made from stitches. You need solid demarcations, sort of. I made the ships going the same way because they are in the same convoy. Much like pictures of the era show, they're weaving independently.

I also tried a couple variations with how much is "removed" in the center of the star, but I found too much and it lost the yin/yang look, and too little and the japanese flag was nondescript. I kind of like the amounts for the background, so far. I would like to tweak the ships a bit. Perhaps make them silver, like the star's color? Keep in mind we're limited to only so many unique colors. This currently uses 5 I think.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Babalonian on August 11, 2010, 03:50:48 PM: Really like the patch Krusty, looks good, but I agree with others that the ships kinda loow "meh" upon further inspection.

Try an older model american carrier IMHO, their decks didn't fully cover the bow and stern of the ship. The only problem I have with the boat (and it seems to go against the symetry of the patch that one of the boats is following the other boat, rather than them being mirrored) you used is that it looks too much like a small dingy or rowboat. Same thing with the torch eyes, both are pointing up when I think mirrored symetry might work better (ie: rotate the top torch 90 degrees CCW and the bottom one 90 CW).

I think the 5-star in the background oriented pointing up, the way it is, is a perfect up-anchor/reference for the rest of the patch and artwork. Last little thing I just noticed, seems to me most of the outermost text on the border isn't centered in the border (seems to be riding a little high/outwards). Word wrap can be a finiky bi!@# in earlier versions of PS, hopefuly you can adjust it quickly without trouble and dont have to manualy insert and orient each letter.

Manthis, I like yours too but it doesn't seem 100% complete yet (don't get me wrong, you've definetley done most of the work and the hard part at that), and you also did a great mash of a lot of red n white. I like the planes and ship, good scale and clarity on the edges. It might just be me and too much coffee today, but does the star-density on the american flag look too dense ot anyone else, maybe it's the 90-degree rotation...? I also think a border would be good and is missing (just a single black or red or w/e line, doesn't have be be a banner w/ type, just a clean edge on the limits). Also save a copy of the file and then scale/zoom it down to ~actual patch size, I think all the type/font (and that thin philippine phandango) will look a pinch too small/puny, so you might want to bump it up a bit (~120% imo), taking actual scale into consideration.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 11, 2010, 04:23:51 PM: Thanks for the Tips. Been busy, but will definitely make changes. I've taken out the CV and put a silhouette of a Fletcher Class Destroyer in its' place.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on August 11, 2010, 07:39:09 PM: Bmathis, I notice you have a transparent GIF that makes the middle transparent. I assume it was meant to be white like the background?

Here's the same thing sized down in non-transparent form:

EDIT: Some existing patches for comparison, as well

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/Patch4v1GIF.jpg)(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200811_battleOfBritain2008/BoB2008_patchScan200.jpg)(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200607_downfall/pics/downfallPatchScan200.jpg)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Fencer51 on August 11, 2010, 08:09:26 PM: BMathis,

Btw, remember 48 stars in the flag, and the blue field should be to the left. You could swap the sides for the relative same look. I think the planes will look cool, the text could be bigger, you could wrap it around the outside behind the smaller fighters.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: cactuskooler on August 11, 2010, 09:58:50 PM: I like yours Krusty. I think it should say "August 2010" though, rather than "8/2010", if you can find room.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 11, 2010, 10:18:57 PM: I can post the PSD file and we can make it a group effort! :rock
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on August 11, 2010, 11:21:21 PM: Cactus, yes I need to retweak the words. It's a real pain. Photoshop 5 has NO word art or anything. I had to import that into GIMP and then wrap the words, save it, and open up again in PS to keep editing.

BMathis, definitely a possibility! A couple of prior patches have been team efforts, as well.

EDIT: I just checked, one other was a dual effort, but no reason not to do it again!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 12, 2010, 07:54:21 AM: I used PS6 to do this patch. The problem with the text is the 'Circular text' feature is not available unless you have CS3 or 4 I think... I had to warp the text and yes it sux... I have CS4 at home, just haven't had anytime to work on this in a couple days.

We've got plenty of time. Here's the PSD file for anyone who has photoshop to play with.

http://www.mediafire.com/?kq0vbfeh9jrt95r

Just remember to give credit where it's due, as this was a p.i.t.a. to create (but fun too :)

:salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: DaCoon on August 12, 2010, 06:46:10 PM: This is my contribution...just an idea for text from BMathis patch. :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 12, 2010, 07:13:12 PM: Quote from: DaCoon on August 12, 2010, 06:46:10 PM
This is my contribution...just an idea for text from BMathis patch. :salute

Hmmm I don't see anything bud
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: DaCoon on August 12, 2010, 08:28:22 PM: OOOOOPPS.... my mistake. I forgot to add something.
(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy225/graffeos3/Patchtemplate.png)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Fencer51 on August 12, 2010, 09:16:34 PM: Hey BMathis, what do you think of this?

(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/BMathisRev.gif)

(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/BmathisRevSmall.gif)

(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/BMathisRev2.gif)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on August 12, 2010, 10:06:30 PM: Honestly, I think that's a LOT of red and white stripes running into each other. I liked it when there was the buffer (matter of fact I liked it when I thought there was a beige stripe behind the text) to break up the stripes just a little. Might also consider a narrow ring/border at the edge, again just to break up the stripes a tad, like your third option Fencer
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 13, 2010, 10:01:51 AM: I really like the last one Fencer. Very nice sir! :aok :aok

(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/BMathisRev2.gif)

Though it probably wouldn't show on the patch, I would magic wand-select all the red in the Japanese Flag and and solidify the color.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: DaCoon on August 13, 2010, 07:20:20 PM: Yeah I like that one too. Good job Fencer :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: 1701E on August 15, 2010, 08:25:09 PM: As Krusty mentioned, that's a lot of red/white running together. It's a great patch, but what if the ship went edge to edge and the flags were on top/bottom with the ship separating them? That would add some separation. Just an idea, I am no good at making these things. :)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: perdue3 on August 24, 2010, 05:47:38 PM: I agree with Krusty, needs a border in middle, a part from that, it is great. Creative and well though out.

perdweeb
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Jenks on August 29, 2010, 05:54:06 PM: Krusty's patch feels more "military" like a unit patch.

I don't see a Corsair on the other, so.....on principle......me no likey :D ;)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 29, 2010, 11:05:06 PM: Quote from: Jenks on August 29, 2010, 05:54:06 PM
I don't see a Corsair on the other, so.....on principle......me no likey :D ;)

If I could fit every plane we flew on their, it would be so... I just picked the most distinctive Bomber/fighter combo for both sides.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: K-KEN on August 30, 2010, 07:03:04 AM: How would a gold braid (line) look as a flag border down the center? American flags do bear them at times..
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Fencer51 on August 30, 2010, 08:32:05 AM: Quote from: K-KEN on August 30, 2010, 07:03:04 AM
How would a gold braid (line) look as a flag border down the center? American flags do bear them at times..

What ever BMathis wants done either he or I can modify his design. Lemme know.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on August 30, 2010, 02:20:37 PM: I think it would be too busy if we put something down the middle... Fencer, I'm slammed at work, and don't have our latest PSD file to mess with it anyway.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Spikes on August 30, 2010, 02:24:06 PM: Needs something to separate the flags.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on September 06, 2010, 01:30:49 AM: I want to run a revision on my design, changes it a bit but follows the same idea. Will post when I get that done.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on September 27, 2010, 10:30:06 PM: Sorry, I'm slow these days...

different backgrounds to compare against (because greys are tricky)

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3c.jpg) (http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3d.jpg)

How it looks small, compared to existing patches:

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3c_small.jpg)(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200811_battleOfBritain2008/BoB2008_patchScan200.jpg)(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200607_downfall/pics/downfallPatchScan200.jpg)

I tried to keep the shapes very simple, but they can be dumbed down even more. I re-used the deck color to emphasize explosions inside the splashes...

Overall I took the same idea but made it one ship manuvering hard, and the wake of the ship as it splashes left then right radically forms the yin-yang division down the center... It's a looser demarcation now, but I think it works. Individual "lines" of white thread would be the white caps on the waves showing the violence of the manuvers.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Fencer51 on September 28, 2010, 10:22:18 AM: That looks good Krusty.

Could I suggest that the perimeter text all be readable from the same direction.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on September 28, 2010, 07:43:24 PM: Well, I was trying to go for the opposites, positioned left and right. For the sake of making a patch I see what you're thinking of and will whip something up. That would probably be better than the asymmetrical one.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on September 28, 2010, 09:34:27 PM: Following the pattern of my previous post, 2 diff backgrounds, and then a small one next to previous patches:

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3e.jpg)(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3f.jpg)

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3f_small.jpg)(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/stalins_fourth/pics/stalinsPatchScan200.jpg)(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/200808_rangoon42/pics/rangoon08PatchScan200.jpg)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: 007Rusty on September 29, 2010, 09:50:30 AM: wow great work sir :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on September 30, 2010, 03:24:09 PM: Nice!

Shall we go for it?
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: ROC on September 30, 2010, 05:14:08 PM: Nice work Krusty.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: SPKmes on September 30, 2010, 07:54:16 PM: It is quite amazing how changing the alignment of words can change the whole look of things...Nice :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on September 30, 2010, 11:33:24 PM: Thanks for the kind words, all.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: maddafinga on October 01, 2010, 07:31:33 PM: Perfect Krusty!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Fencer51 on October 01, 2010, 07:53:41 PM: Mathis if you want your design modified further let me know what you want done.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on October 02, 2010, 02:48:42 AM: OK, folks -- time for voting so that we can move on to patch production.

Go with A:
(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/patch3f.jpg)

or B:
(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/BMathisRev2.gif)
(The resolution of planes in B design won't be as good on the patch as in the graphic.)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Spikes on October 02, 2010, 08:29:05 AM: A
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Husky01 on October 02, 2010, 08:48:58 AM: B
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: B4Buster on October 02, 2010, 12:34:19 PM: A, Krusty did a good job with that one.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: K-KEN on October 02, 2010, 12:41:08 PM: I really like "A" but would rather have "B" for my collection. The Bombs in "A" and the light blue don't hit me right. That said, the patch is awesome.

I like "B" better because of the Flags and colors. I know the graphics will not be as good but so far I have not been disappointed in any patches.

B

(http://www.51hangar.net/fencer/BMathisRev2.gif)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on October 02, 2010, 03:28:17 PM: A.

Part of it is self interest, but I will give credit where due: "B" does look good, it's just way too much red and white running into more red and white for my tastes.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: DaCoon on October 03, 2010, 03:39:51 PM: B :cheers:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: maddafinga on October 03, 2010, 03:50:00 PM: A

Both good, I just like Krusty's a bit better.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Kermit de frog on October 04, 2010, 05:55:07 AM: A

Looks Great Krusty!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: McDeath on October 04, 2010, 06:39:43 AM: A
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on October 04, 2010, 07:27:55 AM: Quote from: Fencer51 on October 01, 2010, 07:53:41 PM
Mathis if you want your design modified further let me know what you want done.
Sorry Fencer, been out of touch for quite a while. I think the consensus was we needed something to separate the flags. Other than that, I think it looks great!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Babalonian on October 04, 2010, 12:52:38 PM: B (sorry Krusty!)

I'd like to see it dumbed down first though with a rough-estimate representation of it's actual resolution on the patch.

Tough call. I'm really stretching to find a con/pro here for one over the other. I went with my patrioticness, I like seeing the flags comingling on B. I think it was the brown-colored splashed on A that turned me off (the rest of it is so good though)... brown splashes or flag goodness.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: oneway on October 04, 2010, 06:41:52 PM: I don't buy them or collect them but I like "A"....and would like it more if the gray was black to punch up the text...
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: K-KEN on October 04, 2010, 08:39:25 PM: I took the liberty to resize it and even add a gold braid (line) as might be on a US Flag.
(Mainly to resize)

(http://www.webdesignbyken.com/pppatch1.jpg)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Spikes on October 04, 2010, 08:44:21 PM: I really like B but I do think there is too much red and white in it...maybe on an actual patch it would look more standoffish but it really does hurt my eyes.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on October 04, 2010, 08:49:16 PM: Keep in mind on the "explosions" on patch A that the color used isn't exactly the color of the thread they'll have. I was sort of going for an orangish brown for the deck of the ship and figured the same orangish brown would be the heart of an explosion. This can be tweaked if you send the patch design to the patch maker, and I'm guessing Brooke talks with them about the colors and all that stuff before they start work on it.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: ROC on October 04, 2010, 09:15:42 PM: "A"

B is nice, but it seems like it's been done, reminds me of several patches over the years. "A" just seems nicely done with a nod towards more "unique" and distinctive.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Husky01 on October 04, 2010, 09:20:13 PM: Roc I love your title, "Aces High CM in Training" lol saw that and chuckled
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: ROC on October 04, 2010, 11:33:59 PM: LOL Ya, I'm a NoObster :rofl
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on October 05, 2010, 05:51:02 PM: Quote from: ROC on October 04, 2010, 11:33:59 PM
LOL Ya, I'm a NoObster :rofl
[/quote
SAMMICH!!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: ROC on October 07, 2010, 11:45:45 AM: SAMMICH!!

Yes, thank you Bmathis, I'd love one thanks.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on October 07, 2010, 07:57:39 PM: OK, the A's have it.

Time to start the patch production process.

Donations for the process are welcome. Here is how to donate: http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/patches/patches.html
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: maddafinga on October 07, 2010, 08:37:50 PM: Quote from: Brooke on October 07, 2010, 07:57:39 PM
OK, the A's have it.

Time to start the patch production process.

Donations for the process are welcome. Here is how to donate: http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/patches/patches.html

Donation made. I meant to after the Final Battle scenario, but time got away from me. Thanks for all your hard work Brooke.

(Also, thanks again for your AW manual you wrote back in the day. When AW first came to AOL as a premium pay per hour game, I clicked on it and was taken to that manual. I read the entire thing through, totally fascinated, then went out immediately and bought a joystick. Logged in right after I got home. :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on October 07, 2010, 09:34:39 PM: Thanks! :aok :salute

Hey, that's interesting about the AW manual. I'm glad it was of use.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: maddafinga on October 07, 2010, 09:53:12 PM: Hell yeah! I was around 19 at the time and had always had a love for the ww2 warbirds since I was a kid and had a "Ghosts" calendar. I played Yeager's air combat and Battle of Britain when they were out, but had kind of drifted off. Then I read that manual, and here I am today. Even neater, it had quotes from some of my current squaddies in it, how freakin cool is that!?!
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: noTch on October 09, 2010, 11:01:08 AM: :airplane: :airplane:
A
:airplane: :airplane:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: oneway on October 09, 2010, 06:09:23 PM: Did AOL start out as a per minute thing or did end up as such...

All I can remember is it was free and part of the service...before it went to Prodigy...where it was also 'free' and part of the service...

And of course after Prodigy it went Game Storm Kesmai before finally being killed by the idiots at EA...
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on October 10, 2010, 03:54:54 AM: Air Warrior started out hourly on GEnie; then spread to Delphi and CRIS; then to CompuServe, Earthlink, and (flat fee) on AOL.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: K-KEN on October 10, 2010, 07:54:38 AM: I had a Delphi account and the first 2 months were hourly. (1996) When AOL included it, I was ecstatic!! The Cutts flew every other week on CompuServe and Earthlink. I didn't sign up for the accounts.
I remember several times that I fired up the ole "modem" on my old Packard Bell (first) PC and downloaded the game. Took all night. :lol I remember Friday nights we flew B-17s gunned all night! What a hoot it was back in the day. I was lucky that my monthly bill never got over $100. I was such a noob and still am! Nothing really changes!
:D

:airplane: :joystick: :old:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: maddafinga on October 10, 2010, 08:38:26 AM: Quote from: Brooke on October 10, 2010, 03:54:54 AM
Air Warrior started out hourly on GEnie; then spread to Delphi and CRIS; then to CompuServe, Earthlink, and (flat fee) on AOL.
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I say for absolute certain that it was pay per hour at first on AOL. It was under premium games and was 2 or 3 bucks an hour. I remember very clearly when they announced it was going to all you can eat. I was excited because I didn't make much money at all then and I was glad of the savings.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Krusty on October 10, 2010, 09:20:35 AM: Heh, sorry to be a little rude, but maybe that would be better in its own topic? By all means carry on (I enjoy reading 'em) but we probably ought to keep this thread on-topic.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: perdue3 on October 10, 2010, 11:42:23 AM: B
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on October 10, 2010, 03:48:13 PM: Quote from: maddafinga on October 10, 2010, 08:38:26 AM
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I say for absolute certain that it was pay per hour at first on AOL. It was under premium games and was 2 or 3 bucks an hour. I remember very clearly when they announced it was going to all you can eat. I was excited because I didn't make much money at all then and I was glad of the savings.

Ah, yes -- I do remember that now that you mention it. I, too, remember how happy I was when AOL went flat fee. It felt like a lucky miracle at the time, to be able to play for some nominal monthly fee instead of, say, a couple hundred dollars per month! :)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: 1701E on October 27, 2010, 04:43:51 PM: Any word on the patch progress?

"OK, the A's have it.

Time to start the patch production process.

Donations for the process are welcome. Here is how to donate: http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/patches/patches.html"

I know you're busy, Brooke, so I can fully understand if it's a time restraint. If it's fund I'll see what I can do Monday. :)
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Molsman on November 14, 2010, 12:23:06 PM: i remember our squad taking dontations so guys could pay their bills.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on January 17, 2011, 11:32:05 PM: Folks, the sewouts on the Philippine Phandango patch is in. It looks great!

I'm proceeding with the production run. Once I have them in hand (a couple of weeks), I'll post a picture here, update the web page, and call for folks to submit their patch orders.
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: DaCoon on January 18, 2011, 01:39:52 AM: Sweet. Thx Brooke. :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: 007Rusty on January 18, 2011, 12:16:58 PM: cool :aok :cheers:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on January 21, 2011, 05:10:05 PM: :cheers:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: Brooke on February 06, 2011, 12:36:09 AM: Hello, pilots of the scenario "Philippine Phandango".

The patches have arrived, and they look like this. Thank you, Krusty, for a beautiful design.
(http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/201008_philippinePhandango/patchScan300.png)

If you'd like one (and I'd like very pilot in the scenario to have one), please visit this web page and fill out an order request:
http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/patches/patches.html

If you would like to submit a voluntary donation to the patch fund, instructions on how to do so are on that page. Donations are completely voluntary -- even if you do not donate, we'd like you to have a patch. We want all scenario pilots to have patches for the scenarios they flew in.

Also, the next scenario is Battle Over Germany. Frame 1 starts on February 12. It is an epic battle between the US 8th AF and the Luftwaffe, spanning Feb, 1944 through April, 1945, with an evolving plane set to match that time period. It involves P-51's, P-47's, P-38's, B-17's, and B-24's vs. Bf 109's, FW 190's, and Bf 110's and a small number of Me 262's and Me 163's.

Please join us for this scenario.

Dates, times, more details, and a link to registration are here:
http://ahevents.org/scenario-current-or-next.html

(http://ahevents.org/images/stories/scenarios_images/201101_BOG/rules_files/banner.png)

Best regards,

-- Brooke
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: K-KEN on February 06, 2011, 09:44:30 AM: Awesome Brooke. I think I placed my order. Please PM me if you did receive it. I shall visit PayPal again! :)

Thanks for all you do in this community!! :rock :salute
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: BMathis on February 06, 2011, 02:13:33 PM: Thank you very much Brooke, and Thank you to all who donate. :cheers:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: 007Rusty on February 06, 2011, 09:25:06 PM: Looks great :rock :cheers:
Title: Re: Phandango patch ideas
Post by: 1701E on February 09, 2011, 12:25:47 AM: Nice. :)
Thanks for all the work Brooke, and all those who helped with the Patch. :salute