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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: bagrat on August 11, 2010, 11:09:09 PM
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ok so here is my situation. lets say u do a community service at a business for a couple of days because of a ticket. the people are supposed to report the hours to an office so i can get credit, instead i never recieve credit because the business screwed up. so i go to the business to talk poliltely with manager in hopes of getting to the bottom of this. Instead of an appology or any sort of compensation, the manager tells me i dont have time for your problems (very rudely) and tells me to leave my name with another person and that they will get to it when they can. I wait a few weeks and no response so i go back to talk to the manager again only to get the same rude dismissive attitude, and when i call them they always say the manager is not there.....really its a friggin goodwill, its not like she has all sorts of important business meetings to attend wtf!
whats with these people they make a mistake an treat me like im the one who screwed up? i just want to be compensated. i dont want money just a simple letter saying i put in hours there.
any ideas on what i should do? i know it may seem im makin a big deal about stupid hours but its more about the principle of the events that occured.
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Go to the courthouse and explain what happened. Let them have a police officer take you down the the place where you volunteered and explain your situation, they will listen.
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DISCLAIMER
This is from personal experience only. I am not an attorney nor do I work in the legal field. I speak only from personal experience in the legal system and sharing with you what I've been told. Be sure, before you act on anything I say, to educate yourself on the laws, rules, regulations, and so on where you live, before you run off willy nilly with a 'plan' that will suck in your situation
/End Disclaimer.
Find out who the area manager is. Right now you're dealing with drones and, most likely, the area manager will be one as well. But contact them both by phone and with a certified letter. NOBODY likes getting a certified letter at work and they will be forced to do something. It might not be to your advantage but you will have a record of the notification. Make sure you document any conversations you have with the business and make notes on what was discussed and the resolution that was reached or not reached. Not saying all of this will do any good but it might and I'm going to place a heavy emphasis on 'might' bring about the resolution you are trying to attain.
Lastly a lot of people think that recording a conversation is not admissible in court. This is both right and wrong. You can record conversations so long as both parties are over 18 and one of them knows it's being recorded. A good lawyer might get the recording thrown out but it will be admissible in a deposition.
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try this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aowSGxim_O8&feature=related
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It sounds like community service is working as planned, as a deterrant against getting another ticket :devil
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It sounds like community service is working as planned, as a deterrant against getting another ticket :devil
deterant my donut its the system tryin to keep me down so they can keep gettin money from me even though ive done everything they asked :mad:
and i say "the system" because they sent me to that pos business to do com service, i didnt have a choice.
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If it's court ordered, they're required by law to report the hours worked. Just politely remind the woman that she could face a contempt charge if she fails to report the proper hours.
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I'd say send them a certified letter and contact someone from the local courts to both inform them of the situation and what you are trying to do to remedy it.
As someone who works law enforcement and has spent more time in and around the judicial system than I ever wanted to, I can tell you that drama and losing your cool ALWAYS backfire.
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1. certified letter? pardon my ignorance but is that a typed up and properly formatted letter or something i need to request from somebody.
2. i will try and contact someone at the courthouse as i have already contacted the person in charge of com service at the probation office, but they simply told me "to go talk to her again, or maybe she sent it to the wrong place in which the time shhet was probably already shreded and gone" which is just even more of a mess in which i would still not recieve credit.
3. i'll let her know she is required by law politely next time she trys to tell me to leave her alone.
what a mess, but i appreciate everyones assistance now i have a few ideas of where to go from here.
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To make it a certified letter, just tell the person at the post office. It'll cost a couple of bucks, but that's about it. They'll have to sign for it, thus proving it was received.
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1. certified letter? pardon my ignorance but is that a typed up and properly formatted letter or something i need to request from somebody.
2. i will try and contact someone at the courthouse as i have already contacted the person in charge of com service at the probation office, but they simply told me "to go talk to her again, or maybe she sent it to the wrong place in which the time shhet was probably already shreded and gone" which is just even more of a mess in which i would still not recieve credit.
3. i'll let her know she is required by law politely next time she trys to tell me to leave her alone.
what a mess, but i appreciate everyones assistance now i have a few ideas of where to go from here.
Give her some loving bagrat :) She might be more "willing" afterwards :rofl :rofl
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deterant my donut its the system tryin to keep me down so they can keep gettin money from me even though ive done everything they asked :mad:
and i say "the system" because they sent me to that pos business to do com service, i didnt have a choice.
On the contrary.
You had the privelege of choice.
You chose to NOT slow your bellybutton down (or whatever the infraction was)...
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alright gotcha thx jager :aok
On the contrary.
You had the privelege of choice.
You chose to NOT slow your bellybutton down (or whatever the infraction was)...
get back under you're bridge
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alright gotcha thx jager :aok
get back under you're bridge
You may think that was a clever comment but it was in fact, not a troll at all.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community. It is not someone that disagrees with your whine about the consequences of your personal actions.
You stated that you did not have a choice, when you indeed did. You had a choice to NOT break whatever law that you received the ticket for.
It just happens that in your case, things seem to even MORE inconvenient than usual.
Just for future reference, a certified letter can contain a note written in crayon if you so desire. Certified just provides you with proof that you sent the letter and that someone did indeed receive the letter.
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posting a problem an asking how to resovle it is not a whine, its asking for advice?
though u abide by the rules, what you are doing is similar to the 5 year old who puts his finger in you're face an says "im not touching you, im not toughing you"
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posting a problem an asking how to resovle it is not a whine, its asking for advice?
I doubt this means anything to a troll though... tell me how im whining some more babe, if it makes u happy
Here ya go........
babe. :aok
http://www.usps.com/prices/extra-services-prices.htm (http://www.usps.com/prices/extra-services-prices.htm)
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alright gotcha thx jager :aok
get back under you're bridge
Wow, that was rude.
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I question doing community service working for a business. Community service is almost always doing work in the community for the community. Sounds like someone lining their pockets.
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On the contrary.
You had the privelege of choice.
You chose to NOT slow your bellybutton down (or whatever the infraction was)...
Yes, but he is trying to do what is required for redemption and some seem to be making it difficult for him to do that.
I didn't notice any whines about the initial citation.
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First, this:
DISCLAIMER
This is from personal experience only. I am not an attorney nor do I work in the legal field. I speak only from personal experience in the legal system and sharing with you what I've been told. Be sure, before you act on anything I say, to educate yourself on the laws, rules, regulations, and so on where you live, before you run off willy nilly with a 'plan' that will suck in your situation
/End Disclaimer.
qft
This is in no way professional advice, however I dare you to find anyone in this community that has served more court-ordered community service in their life than me, over 1100 hours before my 21st birthday if you also count what the judge threw out.
Moving on;
Go to the courthouse and explain what happened. Let them have a police officer take you down the the place where you volunteered and explain your situation, they will listen.
NONONONONO NOOOO!
Not the judges out here, that will just get you in jail faster, giving excuses and asking for an officer's assistance to prove your case on very tight staff. You will have to go to court again soon for a followup hearing I take it? If you have time and if it's a very small amount of hours to serve, I'd just do them somewhere else that will report them (and it sounds like you do have few hours, but the court specificaly ordering where you should serve them might be the stiff here, you gotta oke around sooner than later on this one). It might be your best choice, especialy if you have nothing to show a judge the hours and days you put them in at the first place. IF you can produce some logs or documentation on your end showing the hours you put in and the efforts you've made since to get the hours properly reported to the court, then the judge might bother having a look at them but will likely dismiss them since they're documents you could of fabricated. I had the same situation happen to me and did what tupac jsut suggested, I went in there to explain I did what I was told to and said I would do anything to prove the discrepancy (including taking an officer or the judge down there or jsut giving them a call right there and then). The judge must of been in a bad mood because he wouldn't have none of it, chewed me out for "not doing anything more about it" from the time I supposedly finished the hours until the court date, and then "graciously" doubled the original sentence (double the community service), dismissed all of the properly recorded time I had previously put in, and gave me half the deadline I originaly had before on the lesser sentence to complete the hours. It was agree with him or go to jail. Take it from a person that had to crunch in 800 hours into less than 6 months (long story short: legalize it!), if you got the time left, just go out there, find a place that will properly report your hours and do them again, so then you can walk into court on your date and make the judge happy.
It sounds like community service is working as planned, as a deterrant against getting another ticket :devil
Community service works wonders in many ways, the real sad thing is people thing you need to do something wrong first in order to go out and invest some of your time in the community. Statistics have shown those that serve highway community service are not any less likely to be repeat offenders unless their offence was related to hazardous driving, most that serve highway community service do leave deterred from driving recklessly or in excessive speeds. They also showed that those that served less than two weeks (~80 hours) likely didn't learn anything to deter them from repeating offences or to drive safer, while those serving 150 hours or more on the side of a highway rarely afterwards drove faster than 10-15 miles faster than a posted speed limit or through a construction zone without being more cautious. In short the study recommended all licensed drivers serve a 150 hour stint in highway community service, because those drivers that have served for that time or more were the most unlikely to commit a serious traffic violation afterwards.
On the contrary.
You had the privelege of choice.
You chose to NOT slow your bellybutton down (or whatever the infraction was)...
Keep in mind before you go see the judge next time, you also hade the privelege of choice to serve community service rather than jail time, and they WILL remind you of this if you minutely tug on their string.
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When I had to do community service, I volunteered with Habitat for Humanity. They were very good about filling out my sheet every weekend and a couple of wknds they gave me 8 hrs for working like 5-1/2 - 6 hours. I thought it was pretty cool helping build houses for people who help build it themselves.
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Thought this said nude people, imagine my disappointment. :(
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Here ya go........
babe. :aok
http://www.usps.com/prices/extra-services-prices.htm (http://www.usps.com/prices/extra-services-prices.htm)
yes this is good :D now im feeling all fuzzy inside.
babalonian since this mess began I started over at the another place for community service, which they have sent me to. now i get a copy of my hours at the end of each day. I wont be bothering any judges, id'e rather not recieve a "gracious" doubling of my time. I've yet to get in contact again with this women who seems to always be working out of the store, but by the way you guys are explaining things, it would seem maybe better to just cut my losses.