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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: milesobrian on August 16, 2010, 01:22:35 PM
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Is the eny for this plane which is 10 too low?
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No.
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Depends. For air to air, hell yes its too low. Against GV's, its about right. But if it had an ENY of, say, 25, it would be about the only plane brought to vulch fests.
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Consider that ENY value a dweeb leash.
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Honestly I think its to low. I have done many ground attack mission in it. Most of the time I get killed or recieve heavy damage when attacking airfields when in it. I can most of the time make a clean run in a single engine aircraft where I usually end up with major damage in a 110.
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Think about how big the 110 is. Its going to get hit more than a 190 is, sure enough. But ENY wouldn't be determined by how good it is at deacking a field or killing ord.
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I also think its too low but an increase of maybe 5 or 10 maybe good enough or maybe have a separate eny dependent on whether someone choose fighter or attack.....
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110s against a GV? Seriously? IMO it deserves its ENY because it's exceeding effective at taking down towns. In fact, since (I think) ENY is probably put in place to help prevent a numerically superior country from rolling too many bases too easily, the 110 deserves its low ENY more than most other planes, since a 110 has such a great effect on a town.
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Before the dar changes, I remember my two week trial 2 years ago, I went on a massive 25+ people NOE 110 mission, let me say that that base couldnt even think about having a chance, let alone actually having one
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If thats true, why would the mossie have its ENY at 30? As to the GV thing, its the only axis fighter that can carry 2 1000lb bombs.
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If thats true, why would the mossie have its ENY at 30? .
The 110 is being chosen as a town killer for good reasons: It has about double the destructive capacity in guns alone (7048lbs vs 3745lbs ord equivalent), quite important for example when ords are down.
And that is being reflected in usage numbers as well, on average the 110 has 2.5 times more kills&deaths as the Mossie.
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So your actually better off taking the extra guns rather than the 1000lb bombs?
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So your actually better off taking the extra guns rather than the 1000lb bombs?
Usually not. Bombs have a big blast radius.
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True, I hadn't concidered that. However, that would mean the mossie might still be able to destroy more buildings, dispite their ordanance carrying capacity being more or less equal.
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True, I hadn't concidered that. However, that would mean the mossie might still be able to destroy more buildings,
Would the Mossie have been a more effective town killer, the smash&grab crowd would have figured that out long ago. ;)
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You mean the guys that think the 17lber is a '105, and that the M8 has a 50mm cannon :devil? I've been supprised at the ignorance of some of the smash and grab crowd. Hell, one of them thought that the B-25H had HARV's.
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You mean the guys that think the 17lber is a '105, and that the M8 has a 50mm cannon :devil? I've been supprised at the ignorance of some of the smash and grab crowd.
You are wrong on that part.
While many players are often wrong on details, or slow in adapting to drastic changes in gameplay, it has quite a good overall grasp of finding the tools best suited for such a job. (Or, if you like to be cynical: Finding the easy way). Particularly as this very basic formula really hasn't changed over all the years. They actually may not know the exact details, but they do know the 110 has more ATG punch than the mossie. And they are correct on that matter.
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The 110G-2 is the most awesome direct ground attack plane the game has in terms of raw power. The Mossi is a wee bit faster and more agile, and a skilled Mossie pilot can do %90 as much damage to a town as the 110 with proper bombing lanes and ordnance delivery, it has to take a back seat in terms of total damage deliverable (vs a town or OBJ's). I figured up the total amount of damage each aircraft could deliver once upon a time, and from memory the 110 was 7000lbs+, and the Mossie was 5000lbs+ in their best air to ground configuration. I just might go re-figure that again....
The only real advantage the Mossie has in the attack mode is its ability to carry 4/500lb bombs, that can equate into 4 dead tanks. The 110 can get 2 tanks with the 2/250kg or 2/500kg bombs from under the fuselage, with a possibility of 3 tanks if the pilot is accurate enough with the 4/50kg bombs form the wings. The guns are a moot point because they wont destroy a tank, but do have the ability to track it. I do not recall ever disabling a tank engine with 20mm or 30mm cannons. With that said, I have taken out the engine of a tank with the 37mm HE from a P-39 and 8/.50's from a P47D-40.
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The 110G-2 is the most awesome direct ground attack plane the game has in terms of raw power. The Mossi is a wee bit faster and more agile, and a skilled Mossie pilot can do %90 as much damage to a town as the 110 with proper bombing lanes and ordnance delivery, it has to take a back seat in terms of total damage deliverable (vs a town or OBJ's). I figured up the total amount of damage each aircraft could deliver once upon a time, and from memory the 110 was 7000lbs+, and the Mossie was 5000lbs+ in their best air to ground configuration. I just might go re-figure that again....
7600 vs 5400. Not counting the 110's advantage of being able to do that damage in much shorter time. It takes some time to fire all that 3120 rounds of .303 ammo.
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ENY used to be 25 on the 110 and it was fine just the way it was.
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The 110G-2 is the most awesome direct ground attack plane the game has in terms of raw power. The Mossi is a wee bit faster and more agile, and a skilled Mossie pilot can do %90 as much damage to a town as the 110 with proper bombing lanes and ordnance delivery, it has to take a back seat in terms of total damage deliverable (vs a town or OBJ's). I figured up the total amount of damage each aircraft could deliver once upon a time, and from memory the 110 was 7000lbs+, and the Mossie was 5000lbs+ in their best air to ground configuration. I just might go re-figure that again....
The only real advantage the Mossie has in the attack mode is its ability to carry 4/500lb bombs, that can equate into 4 dead tanks. The 110 can get 2 tanks with the 2/250kg or 2/500kg bombs from under the fuselage, with a possibility of 3 tanks if the pilot is accurate enough with the 4/50kg bombs form the wings. The guns are a moot point because they wont destroy a tank, but do have the ability to track it. I do not recall ever disabling a tank engine with 20mm or 30mm cannons. With that said, I have taken out the engine of a tank with the 37mm HE from a P-39 and 8/.50's from a P47D-40.
I confirm what you said about the 8 .50 cals on a tank. More specifically on a PanzerIV for my part. 110 is more agile than the Mossie though and can turn much tighter with full flaps out. The C4 model can turnfight with a zeke with room to spare if you are a good stick. The right-hand snap roll is very fast and can be very useful in scissors or gun defense. This aircraft has all the qualities of a good fighter bomber (minus the speed and very dangerous stall characteristics on top of ropes or in a L/H snap roll). The Mossie retains E better however.
I think ENY of 10 is just fine. It just requires patience and practice to master (Because no matter if you are in a mossie or in a 110, it always seems to attract the hordes, so speed and good SA is crucial - I even saw some people giving up chasing bombers to take down such a ride for his pride)
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Mossie is a bit more than "a wee bit faster". :P
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Isn't it a bit comical that the lowest ENY German prop plane is the 110? Maybe someone will bring up the ENY of the Hurri 2c as well. What other plane that is available in the early war arena is 10 ENY in late war. The perked EW rides (190A5, P-38 G....) end up being high ENY planes by the time they make it to late war but the Hurricane seems to age like bourbon.
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Its interesting that you can damage the engine of a panzer with .50's. That should mean you can damage the engine of a tiger from the top.
As to the 110G's fighting ability, it will suprise those not familiar with it. I fought a spit and 2 F4U's to a stand still with the help of a P-47. I was able to stay in the turn with the F4U untill he had to break off thanks to the P-47. I got the spit in a beautiful snap shot, where I was able to get a burst into his cocpit. I landed 2 kills that sortie.
As to the 110C, I was able to put up a hell of a fight against a P-51. The loss of an engine and fuel due to town ack was what did me in.
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Its interesting that you can damage the engine of a panzer with .50's. That should mean you can damage the engine of a tiger from the top.
As to the 110G's fighting ability, it will suprise those not familiar with it. I fought a spit and 2 F4U's to a stand still with the help of a P-47. I was able to stay in the turn with the F4U untill he had to break off thanks to the P-47. I got the spit in a beautiful snap shot, where I was able to get a burst into his cocpit. I landed 2 kills that sortie.
As to the 110C, I was able to put up a hell of a fight against a P-51. The loss of an engine and fuel due to town ack was what did me in.
I am still very suspicious of the modeling on both the Bf110 and Hurricane.
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So it seems the consensus is that the eny of the bf110G should be raised just a little bit since the only reason why it should stay low is for people who use them to destroy towns.
A bf110G could use a 5 or maybe even 10 point increase in its ENY. or if their was a way give the 110G an higher eny for when used in fighter mode as opposed to attack mode.
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So it seems the consensus is that the eny of the bf110G should be raised just a little bit since the only reason why it should stay low is for people who use them to destroy towns.
A bf110G could use a 5 or maybe even 10 point increase in its ENY. or if their was a way give the 110G an higher eny for when used in fighter mode as opposed to attack mode.
No consensus at all. The ENY is fine for the 110G. It's a gameplay descision, which is more than only pure a2a capability (see P-47M and N). Also, the game doesn't care about the scoring mode oyu are in (which is reasonable, as you can drop bombs & shoot buildings in fighter mode too). The 110G is the most devastating town killer, and that is a huge impact on gameplay. Raising ENY by 5 or even 10 will allow the horde use 110 NOE raids even when they have huge numerical superiority (it takes a lot to get ENY limit to 20)
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Why are you suspicious of the hurii? It seems fine asside from its supprisingly good verticle preformance.
And lusche, the B-25H might take that title when unopposed. 21 buildings with the cannon/MG's and however many you get with the bombs.
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And lusche, the B-25H might take that title when unopposed. 21 buildings with the cannon/MG's and however many you get with the bombs.
But that kind of stuff is not based on the "unopposed" case. We are not playing an offline game. ENY is about performance & impact in the MA combat environment.
And there the 110G outclasses the 25H in the smash&grab role for various reasons, most importantly: Speed of destruction.
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But that kind of stuff is not based on the "unopposed" case. We are not playing an offline game. ENY is about performance & impact in the MA combat environment.
And there the 110G outclasses the 25H in the smash&grab role for various reasons, most importantly: Speed of destruction.
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So because a few retarded losers feel like killing buildings the ride should be perked based on that, as opposed to how it performs when its used against other planes in this game....I could go kill buildings off line if i wanted to only people who care about "winning" the game care about this...its clear that compared with other planes with the similar stats the 110G is out classed with other eny planes. Not to mention this:
"Isn't it a bit comical that the lowest ENY German prop plane is the 110?" this is totally counter intuitive. Most people agree with this assessment. I also think no one cares if they can destroy towns, it dosent matter they can destroy what ever they want it wont effect most players, who just wanna fly the planes and dog fight.
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So because a few retarded losers feel like killing buildings the ride should be perked based on that, as opposed to how it performs when its used against other planes in this game....I could go kill buildings off line if i wanted to only people who care about "winning" the game care about this...its clear that compared with other planes with the similar stats the 110G is out classed with other eny planes. Not to mention this:
"Isn't it a bit comical that the lowest ENY German prop plane is the 110?" this is totally counter intuitive. Most people agree with this assessment. I also think no one cares if they can destroy towns, it dosent matter they can destroy what ever they want it wont effect most players, who just wanna fly the planes and dog fight.
You are still thinking ENY is about aerial performace only.
And that's were you are wrong. ENY is also a balancing tool for the MA gameplay, via the ENY limiter. And just because YOU do not care abot destroying towns, it doesnt make it less of a factor for overall gameplay.
I also think no one cares if they can destroy towns, it dosent matter they can destroy what ever they want it wont effect most players, who just wanna fly the planes and dog fight
Are you actually playing the game? Not everybody is playing for captures, but that's the stuff that starts & ends most battles. Heck, most missions are about captures. And if nobody cared about that stuff... why were the constant NOE hordes getting such a problem that HT even changed the dar settings?
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Why are you suspicious of the hurii? It seems fine asside from its supprisingly good verticle preformance.
And lusche, the B-25H might take that title when unopposed. 21 buildings with the cannon/MG's and however many you get with the bombs.
Don't forget that the 25H's cannon's projectiles have a beautiful thing called blast radius. If you aim your shots correctly, you can probably take out more like 30 or 35 buildings with cannons and guns alone.
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Lusche, I've seen smash and grab NOE missions where there are 7 110's to kill the town and 17 fighters to form a "wall" between the base and the town. If you do it right, you could use 2-3 B-25's to kill the town, and add the 4-5 other pilots into the fighter group. I'm not saying that the B-25 is better for fast grabs, I'm just saying that it could be used to great effect if you do it right.
And milesobrian, what the hell are you smoking? As lusche said, most fights are started by base grabs or attempts. Most of the time, they end when the attempt to grab the base ends.
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Most people just try to find where the fight is and just go there, its only a few people who care about capping the base the others are there for the fun of it, and to shoot down the red guys, not the static buildings on the ground.
as i stated before i realize that its good at taking down towns but that reason isnt good enough to justify the 10 eny.
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Why are you suspicious of the hurii? It seems fine asside from its supprisingly good verticle preformance.
And lusche, the B-25H might take that title when unopposed. 21 buildings with the cannon/MG's and however many you get with the bombs.
Hurricane has surprisingly good vertical performance?
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Don't forget that the 25H's cannon's projectiles have a beautiful thing called blast radius. If you aim your shots correctly, you can probably take out more like 30 or 35 buildings with cannons and guns alone.
you can only take down 10 buildings with the 75mm on the B-25H and maybe around 6-7 with the guns.
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And the ENY isn't just based on ATA ability, its also based on useage, and how much of an impact is has on the MA. Why else would the F4F-4 have a lower ENY than both the A6M2 and the 109E-4? The A6M2 doesn't see much use (and so doesn't have much impact) because there is a faster, better climbing variant with more 20mm ammunition using better cannons, swaping out one of the 7.6mm MG's with a 12.7mm, that can still turn just as well.
And yes, I can gain around 2500ft in the IID when going at around 250mph. For comparison, I've heard you can get around 6000ft in the P-38 doing 390.
And Ack-Ack, try shooting one shell at the town and then finishing it off with the .50's. It seems to be more efficent.
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Why are you suspicious of the hurii? It seems fine asside from its supprisingly good verticle preformance.
It rolls 50% faster than the only roll time I have ever found a quote for. It is not nearly as slow to maneuver as the Finn's describe it. Unlike all other fighters of its generation, except the Bf110, high speed has little effect on its maneuverability in Aces High.
Essentially I think, that had the performance of the Hurricane Mk I, Spitfire Mk I, Bf109E and Bf110C been as they are in AH the fighters being used by the British and Germans in 1945 would have been Hurricane Mk XIVs, Hurricane Mk XVIs and Bf110K-4s.
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I think the Bf109E-4 and Spitfire Mk Ia in AH are pretty accurate.
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Karnak,
Please give us the quote and the source.
Also I havent had any issues with fighting the Hurris or the 110s. As long as you stay above them, you should be fine. Hell, two weeks ago I was in the Mid War arena doing 1v1s with a Hurricane 2C vs my 38G. Managed to stay above him and stall him out everytime. All of our initial merges were co alt. I think the only other issue I have with them is when someone tries to dive from 15K in their Hurri/110 to pick me while Im busy fighting someone else on the deck.
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And yes, I can gain around 2500ft in the IID when going at around 250mph. For comparison, I've heard you can get around 6000ft in the P-38 doing 390.
If you think it's surprisingly good in the vertical, then so be it. It won't be the first nor the last time you've been wrong.
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Given its low top speed, and light weight, I wouldn't have expected it to hit that mark is all. I'll have to see what it can get when I get it going 390mph.
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Karnak,
Please give us the quote and the source.
Sadly, I lost it long ago. It was a quote by a modern RAF pilot contrasting the roll rate of his jet fighter to that of a Hurricane. He gave a time of 4.5 seconds for a complete roll in the Hurri and ours does it in 3 seconds.
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The Bf110G-2 is one of the most powerful and rugged buff hunters in the game. I guess I'm one of the few that take it high enough to use it in that role. I've sat 600 yards dead six and taken 50+ hits from a set of B-17's, killed them all and flown home again.
It's also not as bad a fighter as people think. Yes it's a tub but if you have an inkling of skill and know what to do it can keep you alive. I fought a 5 minute fight one night in one against a Spit XVI. I died in the end but that was really fun trying to avoid his shots and get one of my own.
Air to air fighter: not so good
Air to air buff hunter: well above average; among the best
Air to ground: Never use it in that role... don't care.
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Only an anecdote, but an American P-47 pilot described the Bf110 as "meat on the table".
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has anyone here other than boxman, baldeagl, and I ever flown a freaking 110 above 5,000ft? seriously...its not just the ground attack that the 110 is good at. its maneuverable enough to take on a few fighters and at the same time can take a whole 7-15 bombers down in less than a minute or two if flown right. :rolleyes: the eny 10 isn't just based on the air to ground attack role.
yeah karnak. it is meat on the table if you dont use it right... it also helps when the 110 has support fighters with it to protect it
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yup, havent used it for a few tours but it used to be my fav buff hunter, like baldeagle said its one of the best. critical alt is ?21k, it carries 4 of the only standoff A2A weapons in the game (cant believe no one has mentioned the Wgrs yet :headscratch:) and enough cannon ammo to kill several formations of buffs (and enough cannons to 1-pass buff formations in a slashing attack.)
not a bad fighter either when you get used to it, just ask dastardly :)
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yup, havent used it for a few tours but it used to be my fav buff hunter, like baldeagle said its one of the best. critical alt is ?21k, it carries 4 of the only standoff A2A weapons in the game (cant believe no one has mentioned the Wgrs yet :headscratch:) and enough cannon ammo to kill several formations of buffs (and enough cannons to 1-pass buff formations in a slashing attack.)
not a bad fighter either when you get used to it, just ask dastardly :)
ahh dastardly the bas.... ahh i cant say that :D
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has anyone here other than boxman, baldeagl, and I ever flown a freaking 110 above 5,000ft? seriously
I came across two Bf110Gs flying in perfect formation at about 15,000ft once while flying a Mossie. I destroyed both in about a second. Felt kinda guilty about it as they were probably really focused on maintaining tight formation and not situational awareness, but ah well, let your guard down and you pay for it. Just being behind lines doesn't make you safe.
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has anyone here other than boxman, baldeagl, and I ever flown a freaking 110 above 5,000ft?
I regularly do long range bomb runs at altitude and being attacked by 110's isn't that rare. While I often slow down and/ or do some maneuvering to get enemy fighters closing in for a fight, I absolutely dread 110's even on my low 6 and usually just outclimb them to avoid confrontation.
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Only an anecdote, but an American P-47 pilot described the Bf110 as "meat on the table".
Yeah, that's pretty much my thought when I see one in the MA. I know I'm gonna have a kill when I encounter a Bf 110G, they're just out classed by most of the fighters in the game. Nothing wrong about that, it's how it was in real life a well.
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Honestly I think its to low. I have done many ground attack mission in it. Most of the time I get killed or receive heavy damage when attacking airfields when in it. I can most of the time make a clean run in a single engine aircraft where I usually end up with major damage in a 110.
Hover over a base being bombed, up high in one, with rockets, waiting for lumbering bombers, and practice. Another reason for ENY of 10. It is definitely one of the best Bomber killers. :aok
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I regularly do long range bomb runs at altitude and being attacked by 110's isn't that rare. While I often slow down and/ or do some maneuvering to get enemy fighters closing in for a fight, I absolutely dread 110's even on my low 6 and usually just out climb them to avoid confrontation.
Smart man. That's the only way I've been soundly defeated in my 110 with rockets. On one occasion a guy climbed until I couldn't climb anymore then he out tuned me until the fighters caught up and they got me.
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Yeah, that's pretty much my thought when I see one in the MA. I know I'm gonna have a kill when I encounter a Bf 110G, they're just out classed by most of the fighters in the game. Nothing wrong about that, it's how it was in real life a well.
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i was in a pony once and somehow a 110 stuck with me in a circular climb for 5k feet. (yes i know i could have ran away) :rolleyes:
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i was in a pony once and somehow a 110 stuck with me in a circular climb for 5k feet. (yes i know i could have ran away) :rolleyes:
You should have spiral roped him, no way the Bf110G could have followed you up unless he had a huge overwhelming energy advantage.
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The Bf110G-2 is one of the most powerful and rugged buff hunters in the game. I guess I'm one of the few that take it high enough to use it in that role. I've sat 600 yards dead six and taken 50+ hits from a set of B-17's, killed them all and flown home again.
It's also not as bad a fighter as people think. Yes it's a tub but if you have an inkling of skill and know what to do it can keep you alive. I fought a 5 minute fight one night in one against a Spit XVI. I died in the end but that was really fun trying to avoid his shots and get one of my own.
Air to air fighter: not so good
Air to air buff hunter: well above average; among the best
Air to ground: Never use it in that role... don't care.
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Yes, I've taken my 110 above 20k. Dove down to 15k after accelerating at 20k so I could make a pass at the 91'st without the escorting 321BAR interfering. After my second pass, 3-4 of his pony's caught me.
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As to the 110's bomber killing preformance: comicly, the I-16 with the 4 7mm mgs will out preform the 110 offline if you hit the bombers right. I killed a lancaster with a 1 second snapshot, far outside of convergance.
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As to the 110's bomber killing performance: comical, the I-16 with the 4 7mm Mg's will out preform the 110 offline if you hit the bombers right. I killed a Lancaster with a 1 second snapshot, far outside of convergence.
Why do you insist on posting such nonsense?
To compare the firepower of the 110,either of them, to an I16 and say the I16 will outperform them is absolutely wrong.
You can get lucky and hit the cockpit of any plane and kill it with 1 round but that in no way is an estimation of gun performance.
BTW,I corrected all the spelling mistakes in your quote,just in case you thought I might have change your words!
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You should have spiral roped him, no way the Bf110G could have followed you up unless he had a huge overwhelming energy advantage.
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he was light on fuel, i had a full tank
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Why do you insist on posting such nonsense?
It's just par for the course for Nemisis.
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Yes, I've taken my 110 above 20k. Dove down to 15k after accelerating at 20k so I could make a pass at the 91'st without the escorting 321BAR interfering. After my second pass, 3-4 of his pony's caught me.
:D
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he was light on fuel, i had a full tank
You still would have out climbed him and by doing a spiral climb you're using both your better vertical performance and climb rate to get into position.
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You still would have out climbed him and by doing a spiral climb you're using both your better vertical performance and climb rate to get into position.
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hmm....then i cant explain why he kept with me :headscratch:
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hmm....then i cant explain why he kept with me :headscratch:
He must of had a rather significant energy advantage when he started to follow you up or you misjudged his energy state at the beginning and thought he had less than what he really had.
Also, while at first he might have been able to stick with you, remember the Bf 110 (C and G) do shed energy rather quickly in the vertical as they don't retain it very well. You would have eventually started to pull away and increase the distance seperation. When it comes down to it, the Bf 110 is just out matched by most fighters.
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Lol BAR, don't be so smug about it. I got a few drones before your boys dragged my down kicking and screaming.
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Why do you insist on posting such nonsense?
To compare the firepower of the 110,either of them, to an I16 and say the I16 will outperform them is absolutely wrong.
You can get lucky and hit the cockpit of any plane and kill it with 1 round but that in no way is an estimation of gun performance.
BTW,I corrected all the spelling mistakes in your quote,just in case you thought I might have change your words!
Really geez, what a load of malarky. The 110 will beat the I-16 every single time.
Nem try reading and learning from folks who obviously know more instead of trying to push non-sense. :huh
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It's just par for the course for Nemisis.
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Ack-Ack me and you should pitch in and buy Nemesis a new helmet. I think he would like rainbow color, dont you?
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He must of had a rather significant energy advantage when he started to follow you up or you misjudged his energy state at the beginning and thought he had less than what he really had.
Also, while at first he might have been able to stick with you, remember the Bf 110 (C and G) do shed energy rather quickly in the vertical as they don't retain it very well. You would have eventually started to pull away and increase the distance seperation. When it comes down to it, the Bf 110 is just out matched by most fighters.
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Obviously he should have dove away and out ran the 110. :joystick:
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Did someone say WGR21's?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1yHT7q4ago
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Did someone say WGR21's?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1yHT7q4ago
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You are my Hero!! I do this all the time & have never got rocket kills on film. Now I will!! next time I kill 3 bombers with 2 rockets. :banana:
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Obviously he should have dove away and out ran the 110. :joystick:
Why dive and run? Without a film to verify for certain but if he had stuck with the spiral climb he would have roped the 110 and gotten the kill. No need to run, just excercise a little patience and not panic.
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If you liked that, you'll love this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcL8-Cw8iaA&feature=related :rock
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Why dive and run? Without a film to verify for certain but if he had stuck with the spiral climb he would have roped the 110 and gotten the kill. No need to run, just excercise a little patience and not panic.
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i seriously dont get why. it was a slow spiral climb. i should have had him but everytime i looked back he was 500 back low and circling with me. he never had a shot on me though which im thankful for. but i seriously dont get it at all...
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i seriously dont get why. it was a slow spiral climb. i should have had him but everytime i looked back he was 500 back low and circling with me. he never had a shot on me though which im thankful for. but i seriously dont get it at all...
From that description if he had tried to tighten his spiral for the shot he would have most likely gotten into an accelerated stall and spun out, you really had that Bf 110 exactly where you wanted him.
Curious, what did you end up doing?
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From that description if he had tried to tighten his spiral for the shot he would have most likely gotten into an accelerated stall and spun out, you really had that Bf 110 exactly where you wanted him.
Curious, what did you end up doing?
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it was a few months ago so i dont remember fully but iirc i just went into an auto climb, out climbed him, and then stalled him then.
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Killed Time2die head-on in his La with rockets last night. He ranted and cursed me for 10 minutes even tuning to me on vox to cuss me out some more and calling me a liar, and accusing me of Hoe'in' him. Like I supposed to let him pass and then start a turn fight with an LA...NOT! What a Dork! :banana:
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Hey, W7, I'm currently creating a gunsight for the WRg21's, and I was wondering if you had a good sight I could modify.
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Hey, W7, I'm currently creating a gunsight for the WRg21's, and I was wondering if you had a good sight I could modify.
Yes I do