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Title: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Wolfala on August 17, 2010, 10:00:45 AM
BRS save in Argentina. Wing rips off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnHuIET4P2s&feature=youtube_gdata
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Lusche on August 17, 2010, 10:08:51 AM
"Video has content from Sony Music Entertainment. It's not available in your country"  :furious
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: tmetal on August 17, 2010, 11:01:58 AM
Wow that is remarkably similar to how I folded up the wings on my rc staggerwing :huh too bad I didn't have a chute on my plane
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: curry1 on August 17, 2010, 12:15:04 PM
my ears are bleeding but still cool video amazing how it gingerly put itself down
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Maverick on August 17, 2010, 03:13:46 PM
I saw the bird landed inverted and caught fire. I'm assuming the pilot was able to exit before the fire. Is that the case?
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Chalenge on August 17, 2010, 03:26:53 PM
The pilot was long gone before the parachute deployed on the fuselage. Dont know why the camera guy kept his focus on the plane instead of the pilot. Those airplanes are a bit too fragile I guess.
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Vulcan on August 17, 2010, 10:39:38 PM
The pilot was long gone before the parachute deployed on the fuselage. Dont know why the camera guy kept his focus on the plane instead of the pilot. Those airplanes are a bit too fragile I guess.

Errr pilot rode the plane down.
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: eagl on August 17, 2010, 11:06:58 PM
The other chute you saw leaving the plane was the rocket and drogue that pulled out the main chute.

From the looks of the fire and what appeared to be the plane being turned upside down by the chute after touching down, the pilot is very lucky if he survived.
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: CAP1 on August 18, 2010, 12:04:17 AM
just outta curiousity.......that wing folded inward...or towards the botton of his plane. had he been doing an outside loop, wouldn't the wing have folded to the outside of the loop....or the top of the plane?

Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Golfer on August 18, 2010, 12:26:05 AM
This one is curious.  Rans S9's are overbuilt and should be able to take anything the pilot could ever hope to dish out.  Looking forward to seeing more details as they come as I know the owners of several flying and under construction.
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: Tigger29 on August 18, 2010, 01:00:27 AM
This describes it in a little more detail:

http://www.wimp.com/aircraftwing/ (http://www.wimp.com/aircraftwing/)

Apparently the pilot DID survive with no injuries, and DID ride the plane down.
Title: Re: Well that'll just about cover the outside loops
Post by: eagl on August 18, 2010, 07:08:08 AM
just outta curiousity.......that wing folded inward...or towards the botton of his plane. had he been doing an outside loop, wouldn't the wing have folded to the outside of the loop....or the top of the plane?

The force on a wing is to the inside of a loop. More generically, the force on the wing is in the direction of the lift created by the pressure differential caused by the wing's angle of attack.  For a loop, those forces are to the inside of the loop.

The only way the wing would have gone in the other direction is if the wing had failed in stages...  Not only do wings create lift, but they also create a nose-down pitching moment which is counteracted by the tail (or canard for canard configured aircraft).  Therefore it is conceivable that for an aircraft with a wing spar that is a simple tube, if the rear spar attachment point failed and the main spar lasted long enough for the wing to rotate forward around the main spar tube, then the wing might theoretically be able to rotate forward enough to decrease the angle of attack to the point where the wing departs the plane "down" instead of "up" (relative to the original angle of attack that caused the failure).  In practice however, I have seen this sort of failure only in small model aircraft that were in level flight, and even then it happens so quickly it is hard to tell whether the wing went up or down as it failed.