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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Pand on August 19, 2010, 01:24:28 PM
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<S> all!
I just received my TrackIR 5 yesterday (first trackIR product I have owned), and I have to say it's pretty sweet, aside from feeling like I'm gonna throw up half the time ;)
My question is, does anyone have any tips or tricks for rear view, I am having a hell of a time looking behind me without shutting off the trackIR temporarily to use my pre-set view.
I've played with the configuration, and it seems that I can get the trackIR sensitive enough to rotate to 180 degrees; however, looking around everywhere else is so sensitive that it makes it tough to stay centered on target.
Any help would be appreciated!
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What I have found that works for me is that I turn my head so that I am looking at the headrest and then move to either side to look around the headrest.
It took me approx 10 hours to get over the "virtual motion" sickness...now I have found I cannot fly without TrackIR!
Good luck!
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<S> all!
I just received my TrackIR 5 yesterday (first trackIR product I have owned), and I have to say it's pretty sweet, aside from feeling like I'm gonna throw up half the time ;)
My question is, does anyone have any tips or tricks for rear view, I am having a hell of a time looking behind me without shutting off the trackIR temporarily to use my pre-set view.
I've played with the configuration, and it seems that I can get the trackIR sensitive enough to rotate to 180 degrees; however, looking around everywhere else is so sensitive that it makes it tough to stay centered on target.
Any help would be appreciated!
I’ve been using TrackIR for a number of years. I have never changed the settings and use it pretty much out of the box and it works fine. I do keep blinds closed in the room where I fly and ensure that the lighting within the room does not interfere .
I don’t know if you have any actual time in an aircraft cockpit but I have thousands of hours and I found the TrackIR to be very close to presenting a feeling of the real thing. So when I’m trying to look back over my left shoulder, I have to turn my head left and lean a little bit in that direction to see around any obstruction. Same when looking back over my right shoulder. The way the TrackIR interprets the movements to translate the view, really adds to my enjoyment of the game.
Is it perfect, no, but it’s worth the effort . the vertigo will pass. Keep some ginger ale and ginger cookies around to snake on. Ginger really does help.
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Pand set some deadband on your forward view to make it easier to stay centered looking forward.
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On BBS someone posted some good track-ir settings.
For rear views I use programmed buttons and track-ir together.
I push a back-view button and i use track-ire to move left or right my virtual body.
Very important is the z-axis settings. If this is good then you get best rear and front views.
Some link:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262111.0.html
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You luky. I found the link!
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,251955.0.html
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just hooked it up a week ago and found this helps..... lean left(or right) tilt and twist neck, dislocate shoulder, strain eyes to edge of popping out...oh yeah close one, and dont forget to vomit on keyboard. at least till you use the forementioned link. :joystick:
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I'm using those settings.
They are very similar to those i put on after i read the first link i posted.
I change z axis a bit.
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Thank you all for the help!! I've gotten it almost usable, and need to fine tune it a little more.... now to just get used to it ;)
<S> All!
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Sort of a noobish question, but what is a trackIR?
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This...
http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/products/trackir5/ (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/products/trackir5/)
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But if you are turning your head you will be looking of the screen right?
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You can scale it... for example, turn your head 15 degrees to the right, you're looking 90 degrees in the game.... 30 degrees to the right, is 180 degrees in the game... etc.
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But if you are turning your head you will be looking of the screen right?
Trust me, it ain't bad. Completely scaled, and it's AWESOME once you get a good profile and keep it for a while.
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Yep, what the others have said. I have a 24" widescreen about an arm's length away. I turn my head so my nose points to the edge of the monitor and my in-game head is 180 degrees looking straight back. Some have gotten queasy from the motion, some can't get used to it, yet others complain about the back view being horrible in some planes.
If you get motion sickness easily, perhaps this isn't for you.
If you can't get used to it, you're not giving it enough time.
If you can't see behind you easily, you don't have the profile set up very well.
:D
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I try to clarify my use of track-ir.
If i must loock back, then,
first, i push a button to look-back (or look back up or look back left ect. if it is the case);
second i translate my head-body a bit on right or left, so that i have no 'linda blair effect'.
For forward VIEWS i can look forward up, right, left, look up, by using track-ir.
To look fully lef or right i use buttons generally.
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I use TrackIR. I will never go back to the old hat switch views. Ever.
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I use TrackIR. I will never go back to the old hat switch views. Ever.
Amen. No more thumbin' around while trying to focus on combat maneuvers. It's all about fewer distractions, and lightening the pilot workload.
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Ahh, ok I get it.
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Well im on the (Lite-Track version) lol The Free-track system, all I use is pitch and yaw, I still use my X-52 throttle, so to look back I have the veiw, (move foward or back) mapped to the thumb slide! so ya have to slide foward in cockpit then look back,work's great, and to see straight behind ya! just kick some rudder!
Misfire out,
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Got a problem with Trackir started it up today and the left LEd is lit and everything works fine in the control panel but when i start AHright LED is off and Trackir is not working in game> Checked all the settings i can find to no avail.
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I get this problem sometimes too. I always leave the TrackIR program up on the desktop and then start AH. This seems to work for me.
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Just did a check of Tracir5 in MS FSX and the game recognizes it but not in Ah
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Shakey, try closing TrackIR and restarting it and/or unplugging the camera from the USB port and plugging it back in. One or the other has always remedied that problem for me.
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On the rare occasion that I get disco'd from AH, I've had to quit the TIR software and restart it before starting up AH again - otherwise AH ends up not recognizing my TIR.
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Just did a check of Tracir5 in MS FSX and the game recognizes it but not in Ah
TrackIR has to be running prior to starting AH.
hope this helps
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I've had my TIR not recognize every once in a while in AH as well. What has always worked for me was to just open the icon if it's there in the systray so you can see the editing part of it with the grid and whatnot, verify that it's reading, then start AH. It seems like it sometimes stalls if it's just running in the systray.
Wiley.
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remember to run track-ir in icon-mode when play ah.
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Finally got it back up and running. I had to reinstall AH then everything worked again. Hard to go back to the regular view system after using TracIr .
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My biggest problem with track ir is watching a tv show or movie or something.. and something moves off screen, I keep turning my head a little to see where it is going!
Or what will REALLY screw you up is watching a video of someone's AH flights LOL
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i have a few questions onthese.
when you want to look left, obviously you can't turn your head fully left, and the same for looking back.
how much do you really have to move your head? how hard is this to get used to?
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You can tune the TIR profile as much as you want. Some have it very aggressive so you move your head a little and your in-game head spins like Linda Blair. Myself, I sit about arm's length from my 24" widescreen LCD monitor. I turn my head to where my nose points to the edge of the monitor, and my in-game head is looking 180 degrees backwards. It didn't take me long to get used to it, but then I'm a bit above average in all respects. :D
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the first purchase I made just for AH was Trak IR 5
i started messin with the profile right off the bat,and really messed things up,i reset it to factory setting with just a lil adjustment to speed and smoothness and I love it! I won't use anything else....the hard part about using it is when you are shooting and in zoom in view it can be alil bouncy...you may want to turn it off when shooting...i use the forward view still on my hat switch when I want to steady for gunnin
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when you are shooting and in zoom in view it can be alil bouncy...you may want to turn it off when shooting...i use the forward view still on my hat switch when I want to steady for gunnin
A lot of people, myself included, have a small dead spot set in the TIR profile for dead center. That way, when looking straight forward, the TIR keeps your view steady. But, if you have a hat switch programmed for AH2 views, it will over-ride the TIR input to help steady your view for shooting.
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here;'s another possibly stupid question......
i'm just over arms length from my monitor. it's a 22" lcd. often when making shots, i find that to see the con well, i lean forward to about half that distance. obviously this doesn't change my zoom.
will i be able to do that with trackir? or is it easy to switch back n forth?
how about the tracking things? do i still have ot wear a hat for them? my headset actually goes behind my head, rather than over it........
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When you lean in, your in-game head moves closer to the front of the cockpit. You can use your zoom toggle key/button and zoom in and out like normal - TIR does not control the zoom in the game, only your head position. It's easy enough to enable/disable the TIR with a button, for those times you don't want your head to move all around; like with GV's or if you have no dead zone in the TIR profile and you want a steady head while your shoot.
The TrackClip Pro clips onto your headset and has a little bit of articulated movement to get the emitters lined up with the reciever, but I'm not sure how much you'd need with a headset that wraps behind your head.
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just hooked it up a week ago and found this helps..... lean left(or right) tilt and twist neck, dislocate shoulder, strain eyes to edge of popping out...oh yeah close one, and dont forget to vomit on keyboard. at least till you use the forementioned link. :joystick:
So basicly....just act like a real fighter pilot !
Flying missions was very draining.
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If no headset then wear a baseball cap with the reflectors on it. That's what I do with speakers sound on, if headset then I use the other pointer which is more accurate anyway.
Semp
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A lot of people, myself included, have a small dead spot set in the TIR profile for dead center. That way, when looking straight forward, the TIR keeps your view steady. But, if you have a hat switch programmed for AH2 views, it will over-ride the TIR input to help steady your view for shooting.
hmmmm we wondered how we could use hat switch views with trak IR thanks for the info :aok
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Let read my post 'trackir kamasutra' or ask to Guttboy.
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my ch throttle hat
when i push 2 i can see from 1 - 2 - 3 normal or up too
when i push 3 i can see from 2- 3 - 4 normal or up too
and so on.
I have also x-axes on (move right-left-right)
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