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Title: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 24, 2010, 08:30:26 PM
Here's my latest, which works with all of these versions:

AH2.12.4
AH2.13.1
AH2.20.3 (Current version as of Aug2010)

(http://techvideoreview.com/FlightSimMovies/AcesHigh/Ah2Missions/PacMix01/Shrunk/Vals00WithIcons.JPG)

http://techvideoreview.com/FlightSimMovies/AcesHigh/Ah2Missions/PacMix01/Ah2PacMixMissionFullPage.htm

I hope you like it!
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: Hawk55 on August 25, 2010, 11:43:47 AM
Outstanding mission Bos!  :aok  Put all the files into the 2131 version and works great.  Sure do appreciate all that hard work you did.  Next time I get down to Texas, I'm looking you up and taking you out to BillyBobs and buying you some suds.  Bravo Sir!   :salute  :cheers:
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 25, 2010, 01:10:10 PM
Ya it is VERY fun on both sides. Gets right to the point after the long taxi LOL! The addition of the F4U's make me keep my eyes open!

New vid coming soon!!!  :bolt: :airplane:
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 25, 2010, 11:32:54 PM
Thanks guys. Glad it works for you.

CaptCarnage: what version of Aces High did you use?

-- Also, I just finished a really INTENSE audio enhancement to that mission, replacing one of the existing audio banter files ("LowCareful.wav") with a much larger wav file containing about 3 minutes of very complex combat dialog. It occurs to me that I could create several alternative audio banter accompaniments during the next few weeks to add variety to it. I haven't published the new enhancement yet, but it's coming....

-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 26, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
So far I have tested it on 2.13.1 and the current version. I haven't tried it on 2.12.4 yet. I have to reinstall that version. It works GREAT on version 2.13.1.

Just a heads up. I haven't made it to the end in my Ki-84 yet :cry. Did you up the skill lvl of the pilots? Perhaps it is just because both sides have mutual support when you get into a fur ball. Because it will not matter what side you are on. If you start to go after someone. You best start looking over your shoulder. Because there will be an enemy there! The best words I came across while reading WW1 flying tactics, "When you are in a position to shoot someone. That is the best time to get shot at!" So very true in this version.

I think it is just the tactics I am using. I am trying to turn and burn with the FM2's. I don't know much about them so I don't know what they are good for. So far from what I can see. They can turn like a Texas tornado! My fave. maneuvers to use are the Immelmen, Cuban8, or a lazy Cuban8. When I say lazy what I mean is. I wont roll over all the way level at the end. I will roll 90 deg. keeping a wing pointed at my target, then full rudder over with a little aileron to help out. Then dive in! With most of these maneuvers I will lose lots of E at the top. That is were the ol FM2 gets me! They can just hang out with me and my wild moves! I haven't recored them. But the two kills the FM2's got on me were just crazy! Just enough damage to render my Ki-84 into a lawn dart!

On the US side I do okay until a Zeek wants to play. Then things just get ugly. You can fly away from them sure. But they just wont leave you alone. Next thing you know you got 3 Zeeks and 2 Da3's trying to catch up to you! I can see why all the Navy craft have a Buick in the headrest for protection!

If you need me to I can test it out on 2.12.4. I will more than likely go back to that version because of LAN support!

PS. did you use the most current version of the Mission Editor to make this Mixup?

Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 26, 2010, 08:36:51 AM
You asked:

"PS. did you use the most current version of the Mission Editor to make this Mixup?:

Well, yes and no LOL. For each of the 3 published versions, I used the corresponding Mission Editor Version. So I used 3 different Mission Editors.

New question:

Are you getting the full briefing with animated maps and audio narration? And are you getting the full audio banter during the combat, etc.? I ask because I got one report from a guy that can't get those optional extras to work. I've been giving this some thought, and I can see a lot of possibilities for complexity and error. Here's the thread describing the current state of affairs:

http://askmisterwizard.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1834&p=1978#p1978

So please report, sir! Are you seeing the optional stuff?


Regards,


-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: Dichotomy on August 26, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
thank you very much will try it soon
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 26, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
I didn't DL the extras no... But I will and see if everything still runs as it should.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 26, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Okay I just DLed all the files. Did my testing. It will only work with the current version of the game. More than likely because my installation path for 2.13.1 was c:/progam files(x86)/htc/aceshigh2. The path for my current version is just c:/HiTechCreations/aceshigh.

Also, I had to create the misstemp folder in my 2.13.1 version. An other weird problem I am having. Most likely because I have installed sooo many versions of this game in the last little while. The vids I record with AcesHigh 2.13.1 don't get saved to the film folder for 2.13.1. Instead it is going to some ghost folder I can't see. As long as the film viewer can find it I am okay. But I can not find the folder the file is physically in. What I mean is. There is no film folder for my 2.13.1. Even though the film viewer can find it???

I might just have a bad install for 2.13.1 and might have to start over with both versions.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 26, 2010, 01:01:53 PM
HMmmmm.....

Try putting all of the optional files at:

C:\Hitech Creations\Aces High\misstemp\

You might need to manually create that exact path if it doesn't already exist on your system. Be sure to use that precise folder setup in every detail, and put all of the optional files directly into that misstemp folder.

Then use the CURRENT version of the pacmix2131a.mis mission file from here:

http://techvideoreview.com/FlightSimMovies/AcesHigh/Ah2Missions/PacMix01/Ah2PacMixMissionFullPage.htm

Make sure and get the 2.13.1 version (which I updated just a few hours ago to harmonize this very issue). Store that pacmix2131a.mis file in the "offmiss" folder of your AH2131 installation. You shouldn't need to regenerate it from a later version of Aces High.

I bet all of the bells and whistles will come alive then.

It seems this little "Offline Missions" community is struggling and learning how to cope with all of these different versions issues. I'm giving this a lot of thought and experimenting in my lab. I've got a workable solution figgered out, but I want to test and document it a bit more before I publish it. If it works as I expect, then it will be possible to install AH2131 or AH2114 anywhere in any filesystem that also contains the latest AH version in the standard location, and all of the optional offline mission bells and whistles can be stored in just one place for use with all of the old versions.

More to follow.... [and thanks for your help and patience].



-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 26, 2010, 01:59:57 PM
Yes sir... you got it. When I tested it I put the files in the 2.13.1 folder. Witch is installed on a different pathway. The files work great in the current version. Witch is installed with the correct path way. After going back and playing the mission again in 2.13.1 I was amazed to see everything working.

So yes. I just didn't read every thing like I should have when trying it out in 2.13.1. You MUST make the folders if you don't have the current version installed.

Everything works fine on both 2.20.3 and 2.13.1 now. I haven't tried it yet on 2.12.4, but I am sure it will work just fine!

PS. I have flown the FM2 for the first time, and fell in luv. Fly's very close to my true luv the Zeek. But has a little more meat to it! I am sure after I play around with throttle and flap settings, I will be able to out turn the Zeek in the FM2 lol :joystick:
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 26, 2010, 03:22:43 PM
Okay I just did my testing for 2.12.4

What I have found so far is this. I can get the mission to load on both sides. Just not the F6's again. The game crashes!!! Also, using the instructions you mentioned. By putting the .mis file and all other files in a "PacMix01" folder. I don't see the mission brief, and I don't hear the radio chatter.

I used the .mis file you made for 2.12.4, but I just copied the optional files and put them in the "PacMix01" folder as well. Did you make diff optional files for 2.12.4? Or are they same across the board. Just diff .mis and .res files?

Or perhaps it is because I am on a 64 bit Vista system. My program files looks like "Program Files(x86)"???
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 26, 2010, 03:40:29 PM
Hahahah okay... That is all it was... I am on a 64 bit system. And widows puts AH in Program Files (x86). To get the mission to work with the optional files I had to manually make a C:/Program Files/HTC/Aces High II/offmiss/PacMix01 pathway. Once I did that all the "bells and whistles" worked!

So far the only glitch I came across is the F6 flight still bugs out. It will cause my game to crash.

Other than that it works great! I think I am going to stick with the 2.12.4 version, just so I can play this mission on LAN! The FM2's still work on the US side so I am happy!!!

Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: Hawk55 on August 28, 2010, 07:52:10 AM
Just a heads up in the 2131 version.  If the field ack is wacking you while upping, you need to change field assignments to the correct country for that mission in the 'arena setup' menu.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 09:51:54 AM
Just a heads up in the 2131 version.  If the field ack is wacking you while upping, you need to change field assignments to the correct country for that mission in the 'arena setup' menu.

Ya you have to do that for all versions I am sure. The Japanese base is Bish. when you first open the map. You must change that to Knights if you wan't to fly the Japanese flights. After you do this all is well.

One glitch I am starting to notice is ALL aircraft when flying over the mountain will blow up 10-30 feet over the trees. This only happens on the mountain. Once you get away from that the drones can fly low with out blowing up again. This kinda sucks when you fly as Japanese. Most of the P-38's will split S out of their dive and come after you. Only to blow up 30 feet from the trees.

I have found this useful when flying my FM2 against two flights of Zekes! If I get into trouble I just skim the mountain. When the Am6's follow they blow up. However, once you leave the mountain this tactic no longer works LOL!
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 28, 2010, 01:51:02 PM

So far the only glitch I came across is the F6 flight still bugs out. It will cause my game to crash.

Other than that it works great! I think I am going to stick with the 2.12.4 version, just so I can play this mission on LAN! The FM2's still work on the US side so I am happy!!!



CaptCarnage et all: I've updated the 2.12.4 version (again today) and that F6 problem should never bother you again. I also added the P39 and F4F, and a LOT of new voice chatter on the allied side. I tweaked the timing of the first furball a bit too and I think it's even more interesting now.

As I'm learning all of the complexities of supporting 3 different AH versions with this one mission, I've also improved my installation process and standardized on the location of the optional files. You'll to move things around a bit, but the installation process as documented on the individual version pages have it all explained.

I've also given you an easier way to add customized audio banter. You could even create a Japanese audio dialog for the Knights side, if you're handy with an audio editor like Audacity or Wavepad.

I think you're really going to like the new, intense audio banter if you ever choose to fly for the Bishops side.

Please let me know if it works for you now, and what you think of the new "immersion factor".

At this point, the 2.12.4 version is a bit more advanced than the other versions, but all have been enhanced recently.


Regards,



-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 02:24:19 PM
Is that up for DL now on your site?

I have started to fly the FM2's. I never knew anything about them until I kept getting shot up by them. Being a HUGE GM fan(I own a few Pontiacs), I fell in luv.

I am going straight for the Zero's. So far the only way I can get them is if I BnZ them, or HO them. My shooting skills are so so. I can just fly like a mad man that is about it LOL. Witch will make for some crazy flights. One FM2 vs. 4-6 AM6's!!!

I will post the vid later on tonight. It is prime time gaming time at my place now. Can't hog up the bandwidth!!
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 03:33:31 PM
Hahahah ya wow... I just DLed the new version. Must say. Hats off. Everything works on 2.12.4. F6's included on my end. The addition of the F4F's and P-39's as well.

The new radio chatter is a very nice touch on the Bish side. I was waiting for Red Leader from Star Wars to yell, "It's away!!!" followed by the classic, "negative, negative, it just impacted on the surface."

Having moved the flights closer to the coast line fixes things up very nice. On both sides it shapes up to be a great fight indeed!
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: Vapor on August 28, 2010, 04:46:48 PM
I have tried downloading the 2.20 patch 3 version. It loads with briefing audio but the field ack is killing me. I have tried changing countries but the ack still fires although delayed until I am rolling out. I use windows 7  64-bit. I have attempted upping the F4u-1 and F6F. Suggestions appreciated.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 05:22:08 PM
When you load up the map. You change the field Kara from Bish, yo Knights. You do not change countries as far as going threw the O club.

To change Kara go to. Options*>Arena Setup>Fields. Then change A1 to Knights. That is it. After that you will have no problems.

If you are still getting chopped up by Ack when going up in a US flight. Make sure A2 belongs to Bish.

*fixed
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
As promised. This was my first flight in the FM2. I think I did alright. Going head long into a group of Zero's might not have been the best thing. But what are ya going to do.

Here you guys go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIKDytcadQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIKDytcadQ)
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: DrBone1 on August 28, 2010, 06:15:07 PM
not sure where i am going wrong at i cant download the map i click on it and i get nothing  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 06:50:44 PM
Right Click. Then click the option, save as, or save link as.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: DrBone1 on August 28, 2010, 06:56:49 PM
i did that anyway its showing now not sure what i did tho lol great1  :salute :salute
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 28, 2010, 07:37:41 PM
As promised. This was my first flight in the FM2. I think I did alright. Going head long into a group of Zero's might not have been the best thing. But what are ya going to do.

Here you guys go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIKDytcadQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqIKDytcadQ)


That's a nice video CaptCarnage. Rock n Roll audio is not my style, but most folks like it. The video action does a great job showing the superior bot battle tactics in AHV2124 versus your prior clip using AH2203. If you don't mind, I'll link it onto my mission page along with the other one, with explanatory text so observers can get a good feel for the advantages of AH2124. Thanks for shooting that.


-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 28, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
That's a nice video CaptCarnage. Rock n Roll audio is not my style, but most folks like it.

Ha, if my father saw you calling what I listen to rock and roll. He would lose the rest of the hair on his head! LOL. I am very lazy when it comes to my audio. All I do is see how long my vid is. Then chose a track that is the same length LOL.

I was watching a few of your vids. I really like the time you take with them. I really enjoyed the news cast style video.

Feel free to post any of my vids. I have a few ideas for my next few shoots. I think I am going to have to adopt more of a BnZ style when fighting the Zero's. I am also training up my brother on the fatter Navy planes. We are Canadian, so he flies Spits. I used to as well. But fell in luv with the Zeke's ability to turn!

It's ability to take damage not so much. But you have to get behind me first! Or some were I can't see you... that works as well.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 29, 2010, 03:51:34 PM

I was watching a few of your vids. I really like the time you take with them. I really enjoyed the news cast style video.

Feel free to post any of my vids. I

Thanks!

And I'm glad you have enjoyed watching a few of my videos. Are you referring to my Aces High Training videos? Or my Aces High mission stuff? Or the general flight-sim movies? Or my networking technology videos?


-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on August 29, 2010, 04:57:25 PM
I have just seen the mission vids. They were well done.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: Vapor on August 29, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
Thanks for the help. Working fine...the combat audio is great.  :rock
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on August 29, 2010, 07:08:34 PM
Thanks for the help. Working fine...the combat audio is great.  :rock

Vapor:

Which version did you download? And did you have any problems downloading and getting it to work?

-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: Vapor on August 30, 2010, 07:17:27 PM
Vapor:

Which version did you download? And did you have any problems downloading and getting it to work?

-Peabody-
Vapor:

Which version did you download? And did you have any problems downloading and getting it to work?

-Peabody-
I did not have any trouble...just did not understand the field ack issue. Now everything is good. I downloaded the version 2.20.3.  I'm just new to offline missions.  :salute
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on September 07, 2010, 05:06:43 PM
That's a nice video CaptCarnage. Rock n Roll audio is not my style, but most folks like it. The video action does a great job showing the superior bot battle tactics in AHV2124 versus your prior clip using AH2203. If you don't mind, I'll link it onto my mission page along with the other one, with explanatory text so observers can get a good feel for the advantages of AH2124. Thanks for shooting that.


-Peabody-

Done. Thanks again Captain Carnage. Your video clip is now appended to the version 2124 link from this page:

http://techvideoreview.com/FlightSimMovies/AcesHigh/Ah2Missions/PacMix01/Ah2PacMixMissionFullPage.htm

I appreciate your work! It shows how well AH2124 handles this!


-Peabody-
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on September 07, 2010, 10:28:17 PM
Sounds great! I know that this season at work (logging in NorthernOntario) is going to be more fun in the cut camp with my laptop. We just got things rocking and rolling again since winter is just around the corner. I have already got a few of the boys to install 2.12.4 on their laptops and loaded up the missions on them. Now the only problem we have is the router is in the communications shack and is wireless!!!!!! So as long as I am the server we are alright.

Hey I was wondering. I am kinda getting back to flying spits again. Did you have any other missions coming up? If so could you put some spits in there?

PS here is a vid of me at work this summer cutting down some of the biggest White Pines in my carrier. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28QPF5yoFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28QPF5yoFM)
If you check out the rest of the vids on that channel. That is were I put all my stuff from work.
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: CaptCarnage on September 17, 2010, 09:52:33 PM
Hahahah I was messing around with the Camera options in the film viewer and came up with this short clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndg4jWoAHOE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndg4jWoAHOE)
Title: Re: Peabody's Newest: "Pacific Mixup"
Post by: bbosen on October 17, 2010, 07:19:36 AM
Cool one, Cap'n! Keep-em coming!