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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Vinkman on August 26, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
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I think it might be fun to be able to rescue a downed pilot with another aircraft or vehicle.
Last night behind enemy lines and near and enemy base, I got shot up after getting my 4th kill and managed to set the plane down without crashing. Sitting there I realised that if I "ended sortie" the guy that shot me up would get the kill, and I would get a capture [=death]. So I bailed out. This exited me from the plane and I began to run around the countryside with my .45 cal leading the way, heading in the direction of friendly territory. I soon realised that even at 'running speed' in te game it would have taken hours[?] to run back to base, so I ended sortie and got captured. But I wondered if I had reached base if would get a ditch or a successfully landed. It seems like I would have. true?
So then I got to thinking, wouldn't it be fun if I could have called a squaddie, who could have driven out in a GV and picked me up? Or if that squaddie could fly out in a plane [other than single seat fighter] and landed and picked me up?
If the plane or GV that picks you up gets killed, two kills are registered, one of the initial pilot that downed you [assuming his sortie is still active], and one [as normal] for the guy that kills the resue vehicle.
Rescue missions would be kind of fun I think.
What do you think?
:salute
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Some of the SEA's used to have rescues if you bailed in friendly territory. Don't know if they're still doing that. Not sure how well it would go over in the MA's
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the person who shot you up shouldve had a kill registered as soon as you bailed, even on the ground. If you made it back to friendly territory you would get a "Bailed Successfully" message instead of "Captured". Even if you ran to friendly concrete you would still get the bail message.
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that's what one of my pet peeves, if you shoot the plane enough where it has no choice but to land or take both wings off and somehow manages to land, then a kill should be awarded immediately. lots of people get cheated of a kill because a guy decided to ride all the way down to the ground and the original pilot get killed first. also get rid of all the ditches unless you are close to your own base/cv and mean 1 to 2k.
semp
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Sounds like a cool idea but it's a lot of effort and time spent to avoid a capture :P
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You got shot down and you wish the pilot that shot you down doesn't get the kill?
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You got shot down and you wish the pilot that shot you down doesn't get the kill?
Only under the circumstances described. It would be a lot of work to rescue a pilot, and would draw more vulnerable targets to the area. This is a decision that is made all the time in real battles. In AH, if the pilot got the kill, there would be no incentive to resue you because 'life' means nothing at that point. So crreating the chance to deny the kill, and 'land successfully' would create incentives to take the risk to get the pilot home safe.[for example, a squaddie].
Don't think it would be more 'fair'. But it might add a little fun.
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The problem is that "kills" refers to aircraft shot down regardless of the fate of the pilot.
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I'm not sure how the scoring system works as I only really pay attention to my stats re ktd, hit percentage, and so on. But doesn't the other guy get the 'kill' while you get the 'bail' and live?
Not that it really matters to me but now I'm curious about some obscure data.
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I'm not sure how the scoring system works as I only really pay attention to my stats re ktd, hit percentage, and so on. But doesn't the other guy get the 'kill' while you get the 'bail' and live?
Yes. The moment you bail the kill is awarded to the other player, as it should be: The plane was shot down.
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Thanks Snailman :)
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Yes. The moment you bail the kill is awarded to the other player, as it should be: The plane was shot down.
The "as it hould be: The plane was shot down" seems like an editorial comment.
Bail = capture = death = kill for opposing player.
Getting your plane to the ground without dying, in friendly territory but not on the concrete is a Ditch.
When you ditch no kill is awarded to an opposing player. [Lusche, perhaps you mean it should be?]
Getting your plane to the ground without dying, in enemy territory is a Capture.
I'm proposing that if you get your plane to the ground in enemy territory without dying, and make it back to friendly territory before you end sortie, it would count as a ditch. No kill awarded.
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The problem is that "kills" refers to aircraft shot down regardless of the fate of the pilot.
QFT
Possibly a new category "Rescued" could be added to Ditched, Captured, etc. so that whoever went to the trouble to save the downed pilot could get points, and presumably prevent loss of a greater amount of points for the downed pilot, ~ like ditched instead of captured. I imagine it is possible that a dot command could be created so that if a rescue vehicle pulls up or lands nearby, the downed pilot could type .rescue [rescuer's handle] and that would let him join that vehicle or plane to be wisked away to freedom and safety.
Personally, I'd just tower, but that's me. :D
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QFT
Possibly a new category "Rescued" could be added to Ditched, Captured, etc. so that whoever went to the trouble to save the downed pilot could get points, and presumably prevent loss of a greater amount of points for the downed pilot, ~ like ditched instead of captured. I imagine it is possible that a dot command could be created so that if a rescue vehicle pulls up or lands nearby, the downed pilot could type .rescue [rescuer's handle] and that would let him join that vehicle or plane to be wisked away to freedom and safety.
Personally, I'd just tower, but that's me. :D
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:aok I probably would tower too. But think of all those points guys that was their squaddies coming in low and low to rescue them. :D
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so in other word u want your frends to mess up their stats if they get shot down so your stats don't look as bad. why don't just ask them to switch countries and vulch them u get more. Perks that way.
Semp
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so in other word u want your frends to mess up their stats if they get shot down so your stats don't look as bad. why don't just ask them to switch countries and vulch them u get more. Perks that way.
Semp
Yeah, I ain't messing up my stats for my squaddies! :rofl
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In the same vein, as an avid GV'er (I fly rarely cause I suck at it), I would love a bail option on a turreted or dead engined GV. Think of how many guys would be in the maproom awaiting the M3's troop drop if you are turreted at the maproom. A GV with the engine or turret out shouldn't be a kill as they can be repaired. Need a few tow trucks to haul them back to base and repair them. Most GV guys I ever met in the field, if the GV was disabled grabbed their rifles and became a grunt like the rest of us.
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so in other word u want your frends to mess up their stats if they get shot down so your stats don't look as bad. why don't just ask them to switch countries and vulch them u get more. Perks that way.
Semp
No I want them to RISK messing up their scores to save mine. and as pointed out about, get "rescue" points of thier own. Asuccessful rescue is win-win for the recueing team or squad.
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No the downed pilot has nothing to lose and everything to gain. What really makes me laugh about this idea is the fact that by the time you get rescued and back on base, you probably would have earned more perks of u had towered to begin with.
Semp
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I like the idea of be able to rescue a downed pilot. Something like the Fieseler Fi 156 "Storch", would come into play in this case. It would also promote camaraderie among squads and fellow players. At this point, I would say the only plane you could use is the C-47. As for the GV, the Jeep. You would get credited perks towards GV or Bomber and the further the pilot is in enemy territory, the higher the reward. Hmm...but for those pilots downed over the sea, the PT would be the rescue of choice. That is until something like the Vought OS2U Kingfisher or the Kawanishi H8K "Emily" could be put into play. :x
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I think it's a pretty cool idea. Though would perks be awarded to the player who rescued the downed pilot?
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back a while on Mid war I used to pull up to a walking pilot Newb in a M-3 and tell 'em to hope on. After several attempts they'd ask "How do it get in?". :rofl I'm not that ornery anymore. :old:
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I'm up for anything that gives us an excuse to ride around in flying boats! :aok
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In the same vein, as an avid GV'er (I fly rarely cause I suck at it), I would love a bail option on a turreted or dead engined GV. Think of how many guys would be in the maproom awaiting the M3's troop drop if you are turreted at the maproom. A GV with the engine or turret out shouldn't be a kill as they can be repaired. Need a few tow trucks to haul them back to base and repair them. Most GV guys I ever met in the field, if the GV was disabled grabbed their rifles and became a grunt like the rest of us.
Vehicle supplies.
The stories I've heard from gv guys IRL is you set up a perimeter and get out and fix the tank.
wrongway