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Title: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: jollyFE on August 27, 2010, 03:38:55 PM
My X52 pro keeps losing cal, I see the illuminated buttons start to blink then I have to recal.  All connections are secure, but the stick seems kinda wobbly...its not even a year old.......whats a CH stick/throttle gonna cost and how durable are they if I have to replace it?

Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Jayhawk on August 27, 2010, 03:41:33 PM
Do a search, there are many many threads on this. 

First thing I would suggest, getting a powered USB.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: jollyFE on August 27, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
Ok I'll search
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: caldera on August 27, 2010, 04:07:52 PM
The usb hub may or may not help.  Some X-52s are of questionable quality.  The first one gave me trouble almost from the start and no amount of usb hubs or cable securing helped.  It was fine some times and other times not so much.  Lasted a year so far on my second one now and it works perfect with or without the usb hub.  Only calibrated it the first time in AH and has been trouble free.   

Try turning down your led lights to zero as they suck power and could be causing your problem.  If that doesn't help, then try a usb hub.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: jollyFE on August 27, 2010, 04:20:08 PM
I have a hub, I'll rearrange the cables so they go to the hub.  The cord from stick to stick seems kinda loose. 
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Jayhawk on August 27, 2010, 04:22:33 PM
A simple fix for that is carefully squeezing the metal connection on the wire to make it slightly oblong.  That will hold it into the throttle and stick better.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Skuzzy on August 27, 2010, 04:24:55 PM
Might want to read this as well (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71591.msg3692338.html#msg3692338).
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: CRYPTIC on August 28, 2010, 02:02:03 AM
Here is where to get CH stuff http://www.provantage.com/scripts/search.dll/Q-P?MAX=0&MAN=CHPD&QUERY=CH+products&SORT=1 (http://www.provantage.com/scripts/search.dll/Q-P?MAX=0&MAN=CHPD&QUERY=CH+products&SORT=1)
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: zack1234 on August 28, 2010, 06:41:52 AM
lol

Joysticks lasting a year is a disgrace, the people who make these sticks know very well how long the last and must be laughing all the way to the bank.
How long does a play station xbox etc pad last a year?

There are a lot of high sticks appearing maybe they will last.

CH products seem to have less issues then other , (plug them in and they work) and they are American which is a surprise not like there daft fat cars.

 
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: guncrasher on August 28, 2010, 02:18:24 PM
I got a ch stick.  Less than 3 months old.  Its a piece f crap.  Second I have ever bought, first one I returned it same day.  It loses calibration several timewa day.  I have self powered usb hub.  Tried moving it around. D/l ch manager.  I shouldda stayed with my x52.


Semp
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: capdavis on August 28, 2010, 03:24:42 PM
I have an X52 as well. It's a great stick--when it works.

Sometimes when I used a button (trigger for example), the LEDs on the stick and throttle would blink, as if it lost power, come back on and be uncalibrated, throwing my plane, and perk points from kills, into the ground. I'm pretty sure its a power and driver issue. I have mine connected to a powered D-link USB hub and it still does this. Ive tried it directly plugged into my pc and it still happens.

Completely unplugging the USB hub, which would dismount the stick from windows. Then plugging it back in, which would remount the stick bringing it back to it's proper calibration was the only solution I had for a while.

So, I decided to completely turn off the back light to the LCD and turned down the brightness on the LEDs and it hasn't powered off and come uncalibrated since. I'm sure it will happen again but it seems to be a viable fix for now. Its just sad when you pay a lot of money for something that only works most of the time. It has made me a bit paranoid to buy anymore Saitek products which I've never had problems with until now. Because I want their throttle quadrant and a few of their mini LCD instrument panels.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: zack1234 on August 28, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
If you lived in UK you could have my quadrant x52 and joystick
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: zack1234 on August 28, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Ch stick never recalibrated it once.

Adjustment wheels though can be a problem
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Dunmoor on September 01, 2010, 07:36:37 AM
I have a very new CH Combatstick, and I have to recalibrate it 2-3 times an hour. I've calibrated it in Windows, I've loaded Control Manager, but no improvement. Control Manager doesn't seem to recognize the stick, so I'm not sure what to do next with it.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: guncrasher on September 01, 2010, 12:04:50 PM
I have a very new CH Combatstick, and I have to recalibrate it 2-3 times an hour. I've calibrated it in Windows, I've loaded Control Manager, but no improvement. Control Manager doesn't seem to recognize the stick, so I'm not sure what to do next with it.

switch usb plug to another then hit calibrate button, then rescan, it should show up on the controller calibration.  I just did that few days ago.  mine wouldnt show up either.


semp
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 01, 2010, 12:57:28 PM
I have a very new CH Combatstick, and I have to recalibrate it 2-3 times an hour. I've calibrated it in Windows, I've loaded Control Manager, but no improvement. Control Manager doesn't seem to recognize the stick, so I'm not sure what to do next with it.

If you have to recalibrate as much as you do there is either something wrong with the stick or your machine.  If CM doesn't see the stick, are you following the instructions to install both CM and the CH stick drivers? What does Windows see the stick as?  Are you connecting the stick directly to the USB port on your computer or a powered USB hub?

Yes, there is a chance that you got a defective stick, it happens but in most of the cases it is just simple user misconfiguration or insufficient power to the USB port you're using that's the problem.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Dunmoor on September 01, 2010, 09:48:21 PM
I dunno what to tell ya. Windows sees the controllers, and even correctly id's them. I can calibrate the throttle and the stick in windows.

CM manager? I dunno what it does. I run it, add the devices but then nothing. I try to calibrate the devices in CM but nothing happens when i hit the calibrate button. I have Vista on this machine if that is relevant. I really don't know what other drivers there are to load. I've checked the cd's and the 1 page mini instruction sheet that came with both controllers (damn near useless). I've tried changing the usb port. I've bought a Belkin powered usb 4 way deal. Doesn't seem to make a difference.

If there is a walk through or joysticks for dummies tutorial someplace, point me to it. Right now I just recalibrate every time the plane wont hold on auto pilot.

Thanks for the help guys. More than likely this is something glaringly obvious staring me in the face, but I'm not smart enough anymore to see it (age and kids have reduced my IQ far more than beer ever did).
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: zack1234 on September 02, 2010, 10:22:28 AM
Do you have your trim wheels set properly?
I no these can cause lots of problems, especially if you have kids.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: CRYPTIC on September 02, 2010, 03:29:58 PM
Here is a site from one of the members it has basic set up for CH.http://snomhf.exofire.net/ (http://snomhf.exofire.net/).
Look under articles and downloads. There is also the CHCM for dummies there also. He covers a-lot at his site.

 If you have CH you should use the CHCM for there are drivers in it for the stick {HOSTA}. I set up all commands with CHCM it is not that hard to do. The only thing I set up in game are my axis. You just need to read a little.
 You are not just paying for quality but for the amazing things you can do with the CHCM. To buy CH and not get full use out of them, I just don't understand. Sure you have too read and learn something new but the reward is well worth it. Any questions and you just go to the CH HANGER and they will be answered if it hasn't been covered already.  Just my thought on the matter.
Title: Re: Stick wont hold cal
Post by: Dunmoor on September 03, 2010, 12:43:11 AM
Thanks guys, I'll check out that site and hopefully things will work out.