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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: W7LPNRICK on August 29, 2010, 06:06:13 PM
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I'm not sure if the mechanism was even invented yet, but a 3-5-10 shot burst mechanism would be nice to limit impulsive fliers from spewing their precious ammo with an overly excited trigger finger. NOT ME! I'm asking for someone else... :joystick: :lol
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think this is truly a wish.
semp
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No. I like watching the noobs spray their tater guns then cry in anger when their clip is out.
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How about they just learn to conserve ammo. What's next...combat autopilot that flies, fights and shoots for us while we just sit back and watch? Or how about auto-landing systems?
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How about they just learn to conserve ammo. What's next...combat autopilot that flies, fights and shoots for us while we just sit back and watch? Or how about auto-landing systems?
they've got those for single player in Il-2 :rofl
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W7LPNRICK, would this have anything to do with an incident in which someone held down the trigger in a 163 when firing at AKAK?
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W7LPNRICK, would this have anything to do with an incident in which someone held down the trigger in a 163 when firing at AKAK?
Har! You told on me! :rofl It was sarcasm guys come on, look at the faces and the chagrin. Of course it's up to us to let off the trigger. I know that I'm not the only one who wishes he had a few more rounds when they're all gone. :banana:
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W7LPNRICK, would this have anything to do with an incident in which someone held down the trigger in a 163 when firing at AKAK?
I swear the 163 only has a 2 second burst ammo load. that's how long it lasts me. I can shoot 20mm cannons from my spit, basically one at a time, but in the 163, one quick pull and its all gone. This somebody hates me :noid.
semp
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with the 20's on the La's, it takes me (on a good day) about 10 to 20 shots to down any fighter, and in the Il2 it takes me about 20 to 30 shots with the 37mm's to take out anything but a tiger, I dont know how much ammo the 163 gets, but if its over 100 then it should be way more then enough to take out any buff's
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W7LPNRICK, would this have anything to do with an incident in which someone held down the trigger in a 163 when firing at AKAK?
Classic.
ack-ack
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with the 20's on the La's, it takes me (on a good day) about 10 to 20 shots to down any fighter, and in the Il2 it takes me about 20 to 30 shots with the 37mm's to take out anything but a tiger, I dont know how much ammo the 163 gets, but if its over 100 then it should be way more then enough to take out any buff's
63 rounds per gun, you have to be a true marksman with that thing
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63 rounds per gun, you have to be a true marksman with that thing
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63 rounds per gun, you have to be a true marksman with that thing
Not being able to hit a single bomber, with 120 30mm rounds, when you can choose any angle you wish to attack from in a 163 is kinda bad. An average pilot should get at least 2 of the 3 in a group. No true marksman about it. May be wrong, but I doubt it.
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How efficently (as far as number of rounds used) you kill bombers depends on the range and how much deflection there is; 30mm balistics are beyond terrible, IMO.
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How efficently (as far as number of rounds used) you kill bombers depends on the range and how much deflection there is; 30mm balistics are beyond terrible, IMO.
Please stop making comments on things you have no idea about. If someone was to follow your advice they would the be 2nd worst player in AH with you leading the pack at #1.
ack-ack
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you get the same firing time approx with the 109's 30mm im guessing. Same gun, and it has only 65 30mm
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Not being able to hit a single bomber, with 120 30mm rounds, when you can choose any angle you wish to attack from in a 163 is kinda bad. An average pilot should get at least 2 of the 3 in a group. No true marksman about it. May be wrong, but I doubt it.
Not being able to hit a single large twin engined fighter stalled out and hanging in the sky while fighting two other planes is also kind of bad. :rofl
ack-ack
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So AKAK, are you saying that a shot from 3 or 9 o'clock on a moving target is just as easy as one from 6 o'clock? I guarantee thats not true.
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So AKAK, are you saying that a shot from 3 or 9 o'clock on a moving target is just as easy as one from 6 o'clock? I guarantee thats not true.
I find it easier. I'm horrible at straight shots for some reason. :joystick:
That also makes you wrong seeing as you made no distinction in who it's easier for etc. etc.... :devil
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I see what your saying SEseph. Alright AKAK, I give you that one.
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So AKAK, are you saying that a shot from 3 or 9 o'clock on a moving target is just as easy as one from 6 o'clock? I guarantee thats not true.
Yes it is. You know why? It present more of a target area to hit. When pilots are taught gunnery they are taught not to fire at the bandit from the dead six position but to approach and fire at an angle to the six position. This is because approaching at an angle presents more of a target profile then the dead six position. Same principle when firing at a plane that presents a bigger target area, whether the bandit presents it in a banked angle or you're approaching from an angle such as attacking from either left (9 O'clock) or the right (3 O'clock).
The mistake that I am seeing with your posts is for some reason you some how expect gunnery to be nothing more than pointing nose at target and firing and that's all you have to do. That is the furthest thing from the truth, gunnery takes as much practice as ACM does. Like ACM, it isn't something that you will expect to improve on the more sorties you take. It takes practice and learning the principles of A2A gunnery and more practice. The good shots didn't get there just by flying a lot of sorties, they practiced and practiced and practiced again.
Last night when we ran into each other, did you notice where I landed my single burst on your plane and its immediate effect? Those were just my .50s hitting, if I had tossed in a 20mm round or two I would have scored an instant pilot kill.
ack-ack
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I hadn't thought about that. Would I be correct in assuming that target dimensions and speed will largely affect the difficulty of the shot.
I know gunnery takes more than pointing your nose at a target, I'm not an idiot AKAK. If anything, gunning in a tank would have driven that lesson home.
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Yes, closing speed does effect how hard it is to make a shot ie: you have less time to react and aim if you are closing from a 6 o'clock position on a buff that is doing 250 mph, and you are doing 500mph, this would general be the ideal speed to attack something, as it would be like you are only going 250mph towards a stationary object, but say you are coming in at 2:30 at the same speeds, you are now moving towards the bomber at 750mph, so you have 1/3 of the time to react as opposed to moving at a dead 6, does that make seance, I know what I'm talking about but I may not have worded it very well
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How about they just learn to conserve ammo. What's next...combat autopilot that flies, fights and shoots for us while we just sit back and watch? Or how about auto-landing systems?
Mx Squawk: Auto-land very rough!
Mx Fix: Auto-land not installed in this aircraft :D
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Yes, closing speed does effect how hard it is to make a shot ie: you have less time to react and aim if you are closing from a 6 o'clock position on a buff that is doing 250 mph, and you are doing 500mph, this would general be the ideal speed to attack something, as it would be like you are only going 250mph towards a stationary object, but say you are coming in at 2:30 at the same speeds, you are now moving towards the bomber at 750mph, so you have 1/3 of the time to react as opposed to moving at a dead 6, does that make seance, I know what I'm talking about but I may not have worded it very well
This(closing speed)and a lack of time in the 163, is what kills me. Don't worry, I have no ego about it. I would like to be a better shot, so I'm practicing, learning critically, analyzing my method, and weighing outcomes. Definition of insanity= Attempting the same exact methodology, over and over, and expecting a different outcome. As long as you're making adjustments in your method and testing it's effect, you're gonna gain ground...as long as there is some logic in your new method. :salute
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The best way I can think of to help you learn in the 163, is just go offline, and keep on diving in on the drones, try as best you can to come in from a high 12, and also dive underneath them and come up and take belly shots, other then that, I have never flown the 163 in the MA so good luck and I hope I have helped you a little :salute
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waht happened to my precious 30mm it used to be 1 round to the nose or fuselage would blow em up, now im lucky if it kills the engine. At that Ive hit spits dead on only to see them take no damage what so ever :cry
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waht happened to my precious 30mm it used to be 1 round to the nose or fuselage would blow em up, now im lucky if it kills the engine. At that Ive hit spits dead on only to see them take no damage what so ever :cry
Now it makes sense. I've experienced the same thing. I've even seen the sprites from fuselage hits in my K4 & nothing, not even smoke?
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Now it makes sense. I've experienced the same thing. I've even seen the sprites from fuselage hits in my K4 & nothing, not even smoke?
waht happened to my precious 30mm it used to be 1 round to the nose or fuselage would blow em up, now im lucky if it kills the engine. At that Ive hit spits dead on only to see them take no damage what so ever :cry
My K4 is killin' as well as ever. I rarely get a dud, or something like a dead-stick from my taters.