Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Thepiratecaptainmorgan on August 30, 2010, 11:51:59 AM

Title: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Thepiratecaptainmorgan on August 30, 2010, 11:51:59 AM
http://www.jrlucariny.com/Site2008/heinkel280/heinkel280.html

The Luftwaffe Needs this BADLY......
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Lusche on August 30, 2010, 11:56:41 AM
http://www.jrlucariny.com/Site2008/heinkel280/heinkel280.html

The Luftwaffe Needs this BADLY......

They needed it badly, but never got it - so why should we?
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Plazus on August 30, 2010, 12:26:12 PM
To the OP,

In case you didnt know... There are two requirements needed for an aircraft to be included into the game:

1. Must have seen combat in WW2
2. Flew in squadron strength

This aircraft does NOT meet these two requirements and therefore will not be added to the game.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Ruah on September 01, 2010, 06:03:59 PM
The Falcon series or something is far better if you want jet combat, just like for wwI stuff I have been playing RoF.  AH2 has the best community, best pilots, and from what I can tell the best functioning physics engine.  So why continually try to bring strange Luft jets into a game where most people are flying prop plane? 

Come down here m8, the action is below 10k.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: BrownBaron on September 01, 2010, 06:14:56 PM
[hijack]
He 177 heavy bomber:

(http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/commissions/client002/He177A5_KG100_II_1_LowRes.jpg)

(http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nemecke/he-177/he-177_kok.jpg)
[/hijack]
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Vudu15 on September 01, 2010, 06:21:25 PM
+1 for the 177 :D
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: BrownBaron on September 01, 2010, 06:25:59 PM
+1 for the 177 :D

copy-pasted from an earlier side-by-side comparison of the He 111 and He 177 I made a while back...

Heinkel 177:

(http://www.aviastar.org/gallery/234/234_1.gif)

Crew: 5
Range: ~3400
Wingspan: 103ft.
Range:
Bombload: ~13k to ~15K lbs.
Defensive armament:
1 × 7.92 mm MG 81 machine gun in nose position
1 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon in forward ventral position
2 × 7.92 mm MG 81 machine guns in rear ventral position
2 × 13 mm MG 131 machine guns in FDL 131Z remotely-operated forward dorsal turret, full 360º field of rotation
1 × 13 mm MG 131 machine gun in manned aft dorsal position
1 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon in tail position

And she's got the ugliest profile you ever saw  :aok

Not sure how the remote gun would work. Perhaps like the 5" guns currently do, a shot of the gun and a red +?

The dorsal gun, note the glass dome from which the gunner would control the weapon:

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2833/he177a5qx9.jpg)

Ventral cabin of the bomber, where the controls of the remote guns are located (2):

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KezhQ6waZT0/SKPOQaalP1I/AAAAAAAAFlY/NQNlu_WUnY4/s320/gunnerytj.jpg)


Made my post nice 'n' picture rich for those of you with short attention spans. :)
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Larry on September 01, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
Or maybe just a Me210/410 and the He 111.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: oakranger on September 01, 2010, 07:19:17 PM
Or maybe just a Me210/410 and the He 111.

+1
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: jay on September 01, 2010, 09:01:44 PM
all f them (exept that jet thing)  :aok
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2010, 11:19:09 AM
Hey Plazus? Do you work for HTC now?   Cause they've never
stated what the requirements are for inclusion.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Larry on September 02, 2010, 11:41:01 AM
Hey Plazus? Do you work for HTC now?   Cause they've never
stated what the requirements are for inclusion.

Yes, they have.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2010, 12:10:55 PM
Really? A link to the HTC post or 'news' stating any such a thing would
suffice.  Ought to be easy if you recall them making it. 
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Larry on September 02, 2010, 12:25:09 PM
IIRC is was pyro who said it on the forums.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2010, 12:43:56 PM
My search of Pyro's posts, back to 99, using the words;
inclusion
modeling
aircraft
airplanes
& criteria

showed no such statement. None at all not even close. Same with
HiTech.  I think too many have read other subscribers making such
statements over the years and it has now been erroneously been
pinned on as coming from someone at HTC.

Since the beginning they've never said what the criteria is. They
have explained some additions after the fact (for use in scenarios
for example)
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: perdue3 on September 02, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
If the Luftwaffe need something in AH it would be He 11 or Ju 52.

I am a Luftwhuiner and if I saw another 109, 190, or some BS like the He 280 before I saw a Ju 52 or He 111 Id be pissed. These idots who do not research and think out clearly what they are asking for is the reason HTC doesn't even bother reading the Wishlist. If you make a post in his wishlist, especially start a thread, please use intelligence.

Enjoy the freakin Mosquito Mk XVI.


perdweeb
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Soulyss on September 02, 2010, 01:01:33 PM
whoops, nm.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Karnak on September 02, 2010, 05:47:37 PM
For Luftwaffe aircraft I'd like to see some mix of these next:

Bf109G-6/AS
Do17Z
Do217E
He111H
Hs129
Ju87B
Ju87G-1
Ju52
Ju188A
Me410A or B

(alphabetic order, not listed by preference)
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Krupinski on September 02, 2010, 07:15:54 PM
copy-pasted from an earlier side-by-side comparison of the He 111 and He 177 I made a while back...

Heinkel 177:

(http://www.aviastar.org/gallery/234/234_1.gif)

Crew: 5
Range: ~3400
Wingspan: 103ft.
Range:
Bombload: ~13k to ~15K lbs.
Defensive armament:
1 × 7.92 mm MG 81 machine gun in nose position
1 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon in forward ventral position
2 × 7.92 mm MG 81 machine guns in rear ventral position
2 × 13 mm MG 131 machine guns in FDL 131Z remotely-operated forward dorsal turret, full 360º field of rotation
1 × 13 mm MG 131 machine gun in manned aft dorsal position
1 × 20 mm MG 151 cannon in tail position

And she's got the ugliest profile you ever saw  :aok

Not sure how the remote gun would work. Perhaps like the 5" guns currently do, a shot of the gun and a red +?

The dorsal gun, note the glass dome from which the gunner would control the weapon:

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2833/he177a5qx9.jpg)

Ventral cabin of the bomber, where the controls of the remote guns are located (2):

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KezhQ6waZT0/SKPOQaalP1I/AAAAAAAAFlY/NQNlu_WUnY4/s320/gunnerytj.jpg)


Made my post nice 'n' picture rich for those of you with short attention spans. :)

[Better Hijack]

(http://www.kitcutters.com/Nex/NexME410.jpg)
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Plazus on September 02, 2010, 08:18:46 PM
[Better Hijack]

(http://www.kitcutters.com/Nex/NexME410.jpg)

I am all for adding the Me410. It may not neccesarily bring anything new to the table that the 110 doesnt, but I like twin engine fighters. The more, the merrier.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Tec on September 03, 2010, 06:36:18 AM
I'll take a Junkers tri-motor with a float plane option and a Hornisse.  K? thx.
Title: Re: Need a New German Fighter....
Post by: Krusty on September 03, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
Pirate: The He280 was a test platform that never existed outside of a handful of prototypes... The project was plagued with programs. While it was technically the first jet to be flown, it was replaced in production by the much more reliable (reliable to produce) Me262, which was better in several key departments including speed and firepower and overal airframe/engine coupling.

Plazus: You forgot the third.

3) Production models (no prototypes).