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Title: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on August 30, 2010, 04:28:32 PM
Just making some promotion. Lots of time, love, and energy went into this video.

Enjoy  :salute

Thread and links are over there:
Original tread/links (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,295831.0.html)
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: DrBone1 on August 30, 2010, 04:31:20 PM
very nice work Lepape aswell as gunnery i wish i could shoot those Jugs like that  :salute :salute :salute
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Post by: Gman on August 30, 2010, 11:26:48 PM
Excellent video, great music!
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Post by: cactuskooler on August 31, 2010, 01:09:28 AM
A must see.
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Post by: Brooke on August 31, 2010, 02:07:09 AM
Absolutely -- a must see.

This is a fantastic video.

Thank you for this!
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: Brooke on August 31, 2010, 02:22:27 AM
While I am thinking of it, what maneuver are you doing to reverse quickly (such as at 3:22 in the Youtube version)?  It looks like some sort of stall turn.  Could you describe it?  
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: beau32 on August 31, 2010, 06:41:27 AM
I noticed that too Brooke, he used that maneuver well, and got great results with it.

This is a great video, and probably the best AH video I have seen. <S> it was deffently worth watching
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: CHAPPY on August 31, 2010, 07:37:11 AM
Excellent video pape  :salute
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Post by: groundfeeder on August 31, 2010, 07:40:57 AM
Great video....I knew i recognised that music!  :salute :airplane:
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: oakranger on August 31, 2010, 10:14:36 AM
While I am thinking of it, what maneuver are you doing to reverse quickly (such as at 3:22 in the Youtube version)?  It looks like some sort of stall turn.  Could you describe it?  

That is what i am trying to figure out.  How in the world he is able to pull that move in a Jug along with some others.  I notice that his flaps are down 2-3 notches, but there is the E factor to still maintain stability especially in the P-47.
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: Dragon on August 31, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
Incredible flying, great video. 


I'm with the rest, how the....
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Post by: Kermit de frog on August 31, 2010, 12:14:39 PM
This is the best AH movie I have ever seen....and I've seen many AH films.
Impressive flying, fighting, shooting, fights and editing.
I could watch this film over and over and over again without ever getting bored.
Great film!

 :aok :aok

Out of curiosity, how long did it take to just capture the footage from the AH Film Viewer?  I have tried to use the Film Viewer, but I get plane stuttering/shaking and many other abnormalities. 

 :salute
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: 1Wolf on August 31, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
Wow!  That was absolutely incredible!  That had a professional quality, look, and feel that could have easily been a game's intro cinematic all on its own.  I really enjoyed watching this!  Well done Lepape2!   :aok
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: curry1 on August 31, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
This video makes me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY&ob=av3e (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY&ob=av3e)
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on August 31, 2010, 04:53:15 PM
Wow, didn't expect such a reaction from you guys. Thanks a lot for all the positive/constructive/funny comments, really means a lot.  :salute

While I am thinking of it, what maneuver are you doing to reverse quickly (such as at 3:22 in the Youtube version)?  It looks like some sort of stall turn.  Could you describe it?  
That is what i am trying to figure out.  How in the world he is able to pull that move in a Jug along with some others.  I notice that his flaps are down 2-3 notches, but there is the E factor to still maintain stability especially in the P-47.

 Well, there is a sweet spot as far as airspeed and nose attitude are concerned to flat stall like this, but its doable from 300mph to level stall speed with the nose pointing at least higher than level. Just yank the stick hard to lower left corner (pull up & roll left) while yanking full right rudder and keep this position until your airspeed comes back from negative - Basically its a L/H snap roll with opposite rudder. When your airspeed reaches back above 0, push the stick down, right roll and rudder to keep the plane from spinning on the way down. If you are too fast (nose down or overspeed), the airflow keeps the nose pointing forward and gyro precession cannot prevail.

 The Jug's prop gyro and plane mass is perfect for such a maneuver because it actually becomes predictable where you are going to end up after practice.  Be careful trying it out though as there is a risk of flat stalling out of control followed by a possible inverted stall for too long and dump waaay to much E. Keeping engine power maxed out is what makes this maneuver worthwhile because as your airspeed turns negative, your engine thrust is pulling the aircraft opposite of its direction of travel for a short time. This also makes great hammerheads when you have too much E during the rope near 170-200mph. The P47N behaves the most predictably from the other Jugs. You can try it with other rides at your own risk.

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Out of curiosity, how long did it take to just capture the footage from the AH Film Viewer?  I have tried to use the Film Viewer, but I get plane stuttering/shaking and many other abnormalities.  

 :salute

About 12hours to capture the footage from the films and 7-8 hours to edit. As for technical problems regarding the film viewer during capture sessions, all I can say is that if Fraps cannot give you good result (right from the windowed frame or full screen(even with the film viewer slo-mo playback)), then you must try to find another screen recording tool like GameCam or Camtasia. I tried making this video back when I was on Windows XP: Fraps or GameCam wasn't working and I found a miracle solution with Camtasia. But then, my computer failed rebooting. I installed Windows 7, Camtasia does not work and Fraps works like a charm... go figure. So, like I said, its trial and error... or pain and suicide  :cool:
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: TonyJoey on August 31, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
Awesome video :aok

On the topic of the manoever, I only use it in select situations (I need to take some notes on how well you used it in that vid) such as when I'm slowly losing a rolling scissors. Not only does it spoil any shot, it allows you to regain almost equality in the fight. If you have some air under you can gain lost E back and be right back in the fight. It's saved my pony's tail, pun obviously intended, plenty of times.
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: Lepape2 on August 31, 2010, 05:28:18 PM
Awesome video :aok

On the topic of the manoever, I only use it in select situations (I need to take some notes on how well you used it in that vid) such as when I'm slowly losing a rolling scissors. Not only does it spoil any shot, it allows you to regain almost equality in the fight. If you have some air under you can gain lost E back and be right back in the fight. It's saved my pony's tail, pun obviously intended, plenty of times.

As a rule of thumb, I use it during the scissors/turn fight only when our separation starts to increase (we are the closest together) and as last resort/or for fun  :cool:. If done too soon or too late, you become a sitting duck no matter how well you perform it. Sometimes, the E loss is so great, that it catches your con off balance and collides with you. The pony is indeed one of the very few rides that can do this fairly well, and hearing that from you is no joke.
 :salute
Title: Re: P47 6min Movie - Lepape2
Post by: Pigslilspaz on August 31, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
i think if i remember correctly, the move was used in war by some very skilled 109 pilots
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Post by: crazyivan on August 31, 2010, 09:12:55 PM
Nice job :aok