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Title: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: jamdive on September 04, 2010, 08:59:51 PM
Will be this thursday against New Orleans..lol

I heard they had to put in a special ref. call this season. "Roughing the Geezer....15 yards"
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: cattb on September 04, 2010, 09:26:06 PM
I would have to think they go after him to hurt him, I hope the Vikings win.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DaCoon on September 05, 2010, 06:59:29 AM
Well, we know where mah loyalties lie......
       
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Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: fbWldcat on September 05, 2010, 07:01:33 AM
Favre just loves to play the game and he wants to win big. I don't see why everyone should go after him just because he's the oldest player in history.... (Is that correct)?
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: kilo2 on September 05, 2010, 07:04:24 AM
Favre just loves to play the game and he wants to win big. I don't see why everyone should go after him just because he's the oldest player in history.... (Is that correct)?

no

George Blanda played until he was 48 I think


GO VIKINGS!
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: oboe on September 05, 2010, 08:33:23 AM
I really don't see how Favre can come back at the tail end of training camp, play a couple series in pre-season games and expect to be sharp against the World Champions.   But, he surprised me last year and I am rooting for him.   Big questions still with Vikes' receivers, with Harvin's migraines and Sidney Rice out with hip injury.

Adrian Peterson should be pretty anxious to run the ball at them, though.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Dadsguns on September 05, 2010, 09:09:41 AM
I wish him luck and most of all his health.   
If the old man still thinks he has it...... good for him, but he better not expect any preferential treatment from the......(so glad to say this) The Champs.....  :D


 :devil
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: rpm on September 05, 2010, 02:19:50 PM
Favre just loves to play the game and he wants to win big. I don't see why everyone should go after him just because he's the oldest player in history.... (Is that correct)?
Favre is an ego/money hound.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: sluggish on September 05, 2010, 04:36:57 PM
Favre is an ego/money hound.

Isn't that a requirement to be a professional athlete?  In the vast spectrum of things Favre is a class act.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 05, 2010, 05:29:21 PM
Favre is an ego/money hound.

I guess thats why he turned down the  20 mil offered by the Packers  not to play last year.


And think about it. for all the claims of Favre being an ego hound or a drama queen. The only ones generating/creating the drama have been the media. Not Favre.


That being said. Win or loose I just home the Vikes issue some paypack in the pain dept for some of the dirty hits NO made last year.
Unfortunately the Saints released Bobby McCray so the payback will have to be enforced elsewhere. I wouldnt have minded seeing him receive some nice ACL damage
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 05, 2010, 05:55:33 PM
Isn't that a requirement to be a professional athlete?  In the vast spectrum of things Favre is a class act.

Really. In the spectum of things this year in particular. Its been the media generating all the hype and the stories. they even created their own name for it "The Favre Watch" a term they coined right after last season.
I cant blame Favre for not being sure if he is comming back from year to year. Particularly the last several years. I defy anyone here over say 26 to go out and play a game of football this weekend. then come back here and tell us how your body feels. The last time I played I was 30 and at that time I was probobly in the best shape of my life, and afterward was barely able to walk for almost a week.

I cant even begin to imagine what that feels like at 37+. And then to do it for a full season? At some point you gotta be saying. "what the hell am I doing this for?"
As you get older it takes longer and longer for things to heal
Yet summer rolls around and you start feeling like your supposed to be doing something. You miss the comraderie and being part of something. Being part of a team is something special. that unless you've been a part of one you just cant explain.
 Then you miss the game. The competition. going against the best which is something AH players can relate to. As a player, who doesnt relish a chance to go against the best players here? to pit your skills against theirs and see how you do?

It aint for the money. He's already has more money then he possibly needs. and can still make plenty and not get battered around like a punching bag every week.
Naa. At this point he's doing it because he flat out loves it. And because he still can. Time will come when he cant anymore. But he can go out with no regrets that he left when he was still able to perform.

Yea, Ego may to some extent be a part of it. But all great players, just like great fighter pilots also have great egos.
then again he can still get his ego stroked outside playing the game and not get battered around.

No. He loves the game
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Fulmar on September 05, 2010, 06:03:30 PM
Favre watch was actually older than that.  I'm not sure when exactly it was coined, but you watch the highlights from the NFL network from 2007 @ nfl.com/videos and they use it on the Gameday Highlight clips, referring to him breaking records (see Week 4 against the Vikings).

I agree with Drediock that its not about the money.  I just wish he had more team loyalty.  I think ever since XXXII when he saw Elway near retirement and winning two super bowls he's really gotten an itch to win another.  But I'll give Elway more respect for staying a Bronco all that time more than winning that last super bowl.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DaCoon on September 05, 2010, 06:21:22 PM
IMO a big part of it is that he doesn't want to leave on a losing season. Last season was not a loser for the Vikes even though they didn't win the conference and go to the Super Bowl. Notice also that this year's rule changes made to the game include alterations to overtime rules which have been in effect since I can remember. A team cannot win in overtime w/ a field goal. They must win w/ a TD. If last years NFC conference game were to play out this year, the Vikes would have gotten another possesion and a chance to score a TD for the win. If both teams score FGs then it goes to sudden death. Alot of people can say what they want, but IMO an overtime win is an overtime win no matter how it was done.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Dadsguns on September 05, 2010, 06:58:47 PM
N.O. shocked the world and the game, so much so they had to change the rules to fit what would have been a win for the other team....  :banana:
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 05, 2010, 08:30:31 PM
I cant take anything away from NO for winning the game. Lord knows the Vikes had their chances and it shouldnt even have been close.
Without the fumbles. There is no overtime There is no 12 men on the feild penalty and there is no interception

The only objections I have about N.O. Are the dirty hits, by namely Bobby McCray And some of the calls and non calls by the officials. One of  McCray's bad hits would have given Min a 1st and 10 on the NO 19 yard line had it been called correctly

McCray was later fined for the hits but it is a classic example of too little too late. Favre to his credit has refused to comment negatively on either hit

As for the upcoming game I offer no prediction to the outcome. Vikes are short on Wide receiver and more importantly, at corner back due to injuries. So the advantage will probably be in NO favor
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 05, 2010, 08:37:02 PM
IMO a big part of it is that he doesn't want to leave on a losing season. Last season was not a loser for the Vikes even though they didn't win the conference and go to the Super Bowl. Notice also that this year's rule changes made to the game include alterations to overtime rules which have been in effect since I can remember. A team cannot win in overtime w/ a field goal. They must win w/ a TD. If last years NFC conference game were to play out this year, the Vikes would have gotten another possesion and a chance to score a TD for the win. If both teams score FGs then it goes to sudden death. Alot of people can say what they want, but IMO an overtime win is an overtime win no matter how it was done.

The only objection I see as legitimate for the old overtime rules is teams may loose in OT without ever having possession of the ball

IMO Ot should go another quarter. then if no score. sudden death. At the very least each team should have at least one possession. With onside kicks dissallowed. which is probably more doable and preferable to playing an entire extra quarter.

The rules committees are like engineers and architects. They each tend to take something that has a simple solution and make it ten times more complex then it needs to be
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Fulmar on September 05, 2010, 09:49:08 PM
The rules committees are like engineers and architects. They each tend to take something that has a simple solution and make it ten times more complex then it needs to be

But I give the a hell of a lot more respect than other sports in this respect.  They are progressively trying to make the sport safer and more balanced year after year.  Now that doesn't mean every change they make is for the better, but what other sport actively does it as frequently as they do?  Look how hard instant replay is to handle in baseball.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DaCoon on September 06, 2010, 07:33:25 AM
The only objection I see as legitimate for the old overtime rules is teams may loose in OT without ever having possession of the ball

IMO Ot should go another quarter. then if no score. sudden death. At the very least each team should have at least one possession. With onside kicks dissallowed. which is probably more doable and preferable to playing an entire extra quarter.

The rules committees are like engineers and architects. They each tend to take something that has a simple solution and make it ten times more complex then it needs to be
To be totally honest, I like the idea of playing a full extra quarter. The problem w/ this is the players would probably complain just they are doing about going to an 18 game season. If I could suggest something to the rules commitee, I would suggest something like each team has two possessions from the 40 yd line to score a TD. Then if still no winner, up to 2 sudden death FG attempts from say 50 yds. If one team makes the FG and the other team misses then you have a winner. If both teams make 2 FG in sudden death then it's a tie. But this is just my $.02      :cheers:
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Dadsguns on September 06, 2010, 08:08:16 AM
I got an idea for the committee to end a tie in a game..... 








































A walk off........................  Blue Steel Style............

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Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: jamdive on September 07, 2010, 07:00:02 PM
I'm still waiting for the next boo hoo speach he gives about "playing football just isn't worth it unless you win the super bowl". Wait, now hes changed his mind again and playing foot ball is "all about the team spirit"..

I wonder if his walker will be counted as 12 men on the field.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: sluggish on September 07, 2010, 07:58:37 PM
Your location says it all.  Could you link to the speech where he says it's all about the superbowl?
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: jamdive on September 07, 2010, 08:18:48 PM
Your location says it all.  Could you link to the speech where he says it's all about the superbowl?

It was his first retirement speech at green bay, remember, when "the class act" held out all summer and wouldnt notify the organization weather he would play or not. Thats the reason they went with Rogers. I dont blame them.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: IrishOne on September 07, 2010, 08:22:07 PM
i'm a diehard Packer fan, being from Green Bay and all (no, i'm not really from Ireland) and i'm also a diehard Favre fan, which as u can imagine has it's drawbacks around here.  IDGAF where he plays now, nobody except Lombardi and Wolf have done more for this city and this organization.    GO PACKERS and GO FAVRE (except when he plays Green Bay  :D)
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: sluggish on September 07, 2010, 08:51:44 PM
It was his first retirement speech at green bay, remember, when "the class act" held out all summer and wouldnt notify the organization weather he would play or not. Thats the reason they went with Rogers. I dont blame them.

So he didn't really say anything like that?
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: cattb on September 07, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
I am a packer fan and I want to see Favre and the Vikings whoop the Saints, go gettem Vikings.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Dichotomy on September 07, 2010, 10:07:16 PM

The rules committees are like engineers and architects.

As a self taught structural enginerd I resent that remark sir  :P :neener: :lol

But, in general, you are correct.  'Common' sense is not all that 'common' :)
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Killer91 on September 07, 2010, 10:34:36 PM
I'm a Packer fan here and I can't stand the guy. i hope the Saints crush the Vikings  :D
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 08, 2010, 12:04:56 AM
As a self taught structural enginerd I resent that remark sir  :P :neener: :lol

But, in general, you are correct.  'Common' sense is not all that 'common' :)

Well if your self taught. you might actually be worth a damn because you probobly have had to work through the problems you might have had to create.

All Architects and engineers should be required to work maintenance for a minimum of 5 years before they are allowed anywhere near a design board. Then they should start out with something simple..like a nail. or a nut and bolt
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Becinhu on September 08, 2010, 12:30:38 AM
I thought Warren Moon was older than Favre is now when he retired.
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Killer91 on September 09, 2010, 11:10:36 PM
Well i didn't get to watch much of the game but what little i watched i saw favre throw an int. and him get sacked!!!   :banana:

Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: Dichotomy on September 09, 2010, 11:17:16 PM
Well if your self taught. you might actually be worth a damn because you probobly have had to work through the problems you might have had to create.

All Architects and engineers should be required to work maintenance for a minimum of 5 years before they are allowed anywhere near a design board. Then they should start out with something simple..like a nail. or a nut and bolt

not to threadjack but yes I do enjoy going out and getting my hands dirty and seeing the difference between 'calculations' and reality.  Problem is our welders really don't know how to deal with a 'suit' in their midst :D
Title: Re: Favre's retirement party...
Post by: BoilerDown on September 10, 2010, 12:30:51 AM
I thought Warren Moon was older than Favre is now when he retired.

He was but he hung on as a backup QB and didn't play much his last two years.  Brett is unique because he doesn't miss starts. 

Of course another old-man QB any NFL fan should know about is George Blanda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda .

That said, Brett Farve is more impressive because he's the full time QB.