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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Apache on May 22, 2000, 11:46:00 AM
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Mine does. Joystick is a MS Sidewinder Pro. All drivers are current versions. Windows 98 SE OS. Calibration loss is not consistent. Can fly sometimes for hours and never happens. Sometimes can fly for a few minutes & lose calibration. Stick does not appear to be spikeing. Btw, only happens in AH.
Any ideas?
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Apache
The Blue Knights
[This message has been edited by Apache (edited 05-22-2000).]
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<punt>
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<punt again> really need help!
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Do you see the stick out of calibration in the windows test function or only in AH?
To be honest I don't have any answers for you other than to try and help figure where the issue might be. I had a SW 3D Pro a couple of years ago and I still needed to calibrate it every now and then. Not as much as you have to though.
Btw, are you using your soundcard port or a gamecard? If thru the soundcard what kind of card is it?
-Westy
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Thanks Westy for responding. Yes, when I lose calibration, it does show in Windows setup as well. I can simply recalibrate in AH, however, and it is fine (Until it does it again).
I am using a game port on a sound card, Sound Blaster Live with current drivers.
Directx 7.0a also.
I did notice last night that when I lose calibration, I also get sent to zoom mode in whatever view I am in and my engine sound revs, then back to normal. All this happens at 1 time, calibration loss, zoom mode & engine sounds.
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Apache
The Blue Knights
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my rudders go out ALL the time.... joystick fine..all USB
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Apache,
I have the same stick. Guess what......mine does it as well. However, mine also recalibrates in other games so it's not just Aces High.
I've found DX makes a big difference.
DX6.0 Stick recalibrates every hour or so....
DX6.1 Every 1/2 hour or so
DX7.0a Every 10 minutes.
DX7.0b Bout every 4 hours......ish.
I've tried changing both joystick and sound card drivers (even though the stick is USB, someone suggested it) but nothing else makes any difference.
My advice? Upgrade your DX to DX7.0b or buy a new stick......apparently the new MS Sidewinder Pro Force Feedback no longer exhibits this bug.......but then again it's a man at Microshaft who's saying this......
Swoop
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Wow! Thanks Swoop. I will upgrade my directx. Just bought this stupid stick. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Apache
The Blue Knights
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Where can i find dx 7.0b ?
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Well shoot. Unless there is something I don't know, there is no 7.0b.
Maybe Swoop is calling 7.0 7.0a and 7.0a 7.0b? If so, then thats not my problem. I am using 7.0a.
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Apache
The Blue Knights
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Are Poll interupts checked or unchecked? The lastest DirectX is 7.0a last I checked (2 weeks ago).
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I have to recal my rudders in AH after every reboot (starts up in the game with full right input if i dont) The joystick and throttle are always right on. Using Saitek X36 USB combo and CH Pro Pedals USB
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Poll with interupts unchecked rip1. I have tried with both configs. This is a real strange conflict. I think I will drop back to Winblows 95. I didn't have these kinda probs. with that.
Thansk all!
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Apache
The Blue Knights
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JimBear
Got the Saitek setup myself and was planing
on getting the CH Pro USB pedals.
Any problem with setting this up that might save me some grief/grayhair ect?
Thanks
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Damned Stalker
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Just a shot in the dark Apache but are you runnin in 16bit or 32bit video mode.I have a precision pro also and when I ran in 32bit I had to recalibrate alot more often(js is hooked up to my soundblaster card).In 16bit I have no problem.All of this is mundane since ya probably already went back to win95 but thought I'd throw it out there.
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Aha! I am in 32 bit mode. Haven't gone to Win95 yet. Will try 16 bit mode first. Thanks ArkanReb.
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Couple more things.The card I had just gotten was an AGP card with TNT2 chipset.I'm not mentioning this cause of the chipset but more so cause of the AGP.Wondering if using a gamecard is better suited for joystick than soundcard with AGP.I noticed when I tried calibrating in windows the movement in the calibration box was not coinciding with my stick(it would reach right wall and still have more stick movement right).After calibration in windows and in game I also noticed a faster roll rate right than left(not good haha).I reverted back to my PCI card since I was runnin in 16 bit mode anyways.No problem calibrating now so if it still does it in 16 bit mode to ya then it's probably an AGP-win98 issue for that js like ya mentioned.Hopefully not.Not tryin to confuse you just seein if any of this is similar with you.Maybe we can pinpoint it so when I get a new card I'll know whats goin on.
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ArkanReb
FAT DRUNK BASTARDS (http://fdb.50megs.com)
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oops. :-)
Made a slight mistake.
DX has no 7.0b out yet......there's 7.0 and 7.0a.
Swoop
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I lose rudder calibration now and then in AH. Lately quite often. Dunno why.
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StSanta
II/JG2
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/santa.gif)
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Jimbear, same setup, same rudder drift problem... it sucks... am about ready to throw CH pedals out....
doc
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Just for the sake of comparison...
I use the F22Pro/TQS/RCS setup. I used to have nasty cal problems with the ACM gamecard thus retroed back to the standard GamePort on the ol SBLive. I've always had to dampen and deadband the rudder to get anything like decent rudder cal.
By the way, if you have the option of the Trustmaster RCS or the CH Pro Rudder pedals, got with the CH rudders. They are a whole lot cleaner IMHO.
-Arrow
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Got a solution with CTFJ320 http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ (http://home.att.net/~stickworks/)
Now my sidewinder doesn't lost is calibration!
(or I'm unable to notice it get lost (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
Straffo
AKA Ftraffo
AKA Straffo_EAF329
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Have CH F16 combat usb and its gone out once in like 10-11 hours of play but I think it goes in windows first. Had to recalibrate in windows again and it was OK.
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jimbear i have saitek cyborg 3d and used to have to recalibrate every reboot until i got joystart which runs at startup and fixed problem..its very small 18kb i think and was recommended by saitek tech help..as you are using rudders it may not help but i dont see why not....email me if you want it
hazed@cwcom.net
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Hiya Well, I had this problem in AW3. I have same sound card as you SB Live! and guess what its MS and Sb Live conflict in wins98. I bought gamecard and it solve the problem. Know i bought USb version and no problem either. Sb Live n MS has conflicts. Good Luck
Before you do anything try this goto Controlpanel>multimedia>devices>Midi devices n instruments>Midi for Creative Software Synth> pick Do not use MIDI features on this device. This what causes the conflict. This is for musicians so need for it unless you musician (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) reboot system and try the stick out Gluck
Very Importan Dont Remove it@!!!!!! Just disable it
Bash
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u used that setup for years....never had calibration trouble with it, but had lots of "stick not connected problems." I'd bring it back and buy the usb version. They make an upgraded version to the sidewinder with a larger and molded handle. It's more expensive, 55 or so, but its worth the less complexity of usb.
CRASH
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Guys.. I had EXACTLY the same problem until 2 months ago.
Sidewinder FF Pro, Simped digital pedals, SBLive Value card. Every so often my rudder would lock hard left or right.
The source of the problem? The SBLive card!
I ripped out the soundblaster and installed a Diamond Mx400 with digital joystick port. Haven't had a calibration problem since.
From reading the Creative newsgroup, it appears that the SBLive is causing a HEAP of calibration problems in all sorts of different games.
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