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Title: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: Black Jack on September 10, 2010, 08:44:51 PM
I'm trying to use this older Black and Decker electrical drill for a project. I would like to be able to use the reversable and variable speed of the drill to install on a clothes line to make a cow tracker. I want to have the drill wired so I could have two outside switch for it. One for the forward and reverse and the other (could be a dimmer switch too) to change the speed. I have 3 wires coming out of the motor. The 2 blacks are on each side attached to a brush, the white one comes from the inside probably welded to the armature itself, I can't see where it's attached too. There is another black one going from one side of the armature to the other side. Not sure what this one does. I believed that the 2 black ones would be forward and reverse polarity and the white would be my ground.  :cry Wrong.... I tried every which way and cannot make the motor turn. Anybody knows how to wire it so I could use it the way I explained? The drill worked fine before I took it apart but I couldn't use the factory switch to do what i want. (http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5892/dsc8109.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/dsc8109.jpg/)


Tried to find a wiring diagram for the switch itself so I could rewire it the way I needed but didn't find anything yet. Still looking into that too.  Hope somebody can help. Tks  :aok
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: FiLtH on September 11, 2010, 12:01:27 AM
Sounds a little dangerous.
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: VonMessa on September 11, 2010, 01:34:54 AM
Tried it every which way?

Awesome, did you try licking it, too, perhaps while standing in a bucket of salt water?  :headscratch:

Can I take out some life insurance on you?

Black is hot

White is not.

Remember this.  It may prevent you from dying.

White is your neutral.

From the looks of the drill (age), there isn't a ground.  It's amazing that with your "experimentation" that YOU didn't become a ground.
 :noid

Each black is for a direction of the drill.  That's what the direction switch was for.  If you hook up a dimmer, you will need one for each.
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: mbailey on September 11, 2010, 05:46:47 AM
Homeowners insurance paid up?
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: uptown on September 11, 2010, 09:30:59 AM
 :rofl for some reason Redd Greene come to mind.
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: OOZ662 on September 11, 2010, 09:38:50 AM
Considering there isn't a battery or power source hooked up to it, I'm not at all surprised he didn't get shocked...unless they're hiding a massive bank of capacitors somewhere around that motor, which wouldn't make much sense.
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: Lusche on September 11, 2010, 11:19:10 AM
Oh... hoped this was a thread about Electric Wizard...  :(

(http://wallpaper.metalship.org/images/electric-wizard3.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4OawzSoxMM

Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: MrMeanie on September 12, 2010, 12:02:48 AM



From the looks of the drill (age), there isn't a ground.  It's amazing that with your "experimentation" that YOU didn't become a ground.
 :noid

 :rofl :bolt:
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: smoe on September 12, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
I wouldn't be suprised if it had a safety switch hidden that disables the motor when the cover is off. This safety device might be called the dumbars safety switch, lol, and prevents dangerous situations just like this.
Title: Re: For electrical wizard out there
Post by: Fulmar on September 12, 2010, 09:00:18 PM
I wouldn't be suprised if it had a safety switch hidden that disables the motor when the cover is off. This safety device might be called the dumbars safety switch, lol, and prevents dangerous situations just like this.

I've never come across one.  I've rebuild hundreds of drill batteries (the packs and the ones where the batteries are hidden in the handle etc) when I worked at Batteries Plus.  I've never come across a drill that that 'safety' feature.  Before I finish assembling I test the motor/connections and never seen anything of the sort.