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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: icejaff on September 11, 2010, 06:03:01 PM
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Which one is a better medium to long range fighter that is good for taking down bombers but also pretty strong aganinst fighters.
Speed is what I need more than maneuverability
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Spixteen is the bestest fighter of all time and is to kill all the badguys :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock
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Well, "long range" and Spitfires don't go well in the same sentence ;)
If you want to hunt buffs in a Spit (particularly higher ones) and speed is essential, there is only one choice, the Spit XIV. Of you don't want to fly a perked one, you may look at the Spit IX, which has a good high altitude performance. If endurance/range is most important, you will have to use a Spit VIII.
Keep in mind, while all MW/LW Spits (8,9,14,16) have some good attributes for buff hunting (particularly rate of climb), their fragility maybe makes them not the best choice for that role.
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Me-262 or TA 152 BF109k4 or G16 are my choices for bomber hunting.....but as far as spits go... I like the VIII
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its much more fun to hunt spits with bombers :D
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Simple answer is there really isn't a spit fitting all of your specifications. You can either take a spitfire and have an acceptable bomber hunter and a good fighter (I'll admit it even if I hate the damn thing), or you can hop in another plane and pick up some extra speed and range.
What alt are you talking about? At 30k, you can't go wrong with a P-47.
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mk VIII fits your requirements.
It has ~45min of fuel at military power, good climb rate, and fully capable of catching bombers. It is faster than mk IX and has longer range. mk XVI is not good at high altitude and the range is about the same at mk IX if not shorter. The only other spitfire that would be better for such a mission would be mk XIV but it's not that easy to master without lots of experience in spitfires and lots of low alt - low speed training. You can try taking the mk XIV as I would highly recommend it but you have to be ready to loose alot of perks initially before you learn how to fly it.
This goes to all spitfires: you might not be able to outrun most late war planes but you can certainly out climb most of them.
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The Mk VIII yes take it good ammo compliment and sutch
But remember the Spit was designed to intercept and shoot down German bomber's i.e the He 111 and Doniers and Ju 88's.
So I'd advise a P47 or Fw190 for the allied bombers more hitting power and better survivability. :) :D
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Spixteen is the bestest fighter of all time and is to kill all the badguys :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock
NERD!!!! get real dude. spixteen is the same to aces high as softball is to MLB. made so girls can play the game. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
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NERD!!!! get real dude. spixteen is the same to aces high as softball is to MLB. made so girls can play the game. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
From what I remember, the best girl pilots I ever flew with/against flew Hurricane Mk.Is and Typhoons.
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From what I remember, the best girl pilots I ever flew with/against flew Hurricane Mk.Is and Typhoons.
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The VIII carries the most internal fuel so has the longest range. The IX is built for high alt work but is slower although more manouverable than the VIII. The XIV is also built for high alt, is the fastest and has a better gun package then the VIII or IX but it's a perk plane so if you die you lose your perks. The XVI carries the same gun package as the XIV but is primarily designed for low alts. In any of them you'll want 100% fuel and a drop tank and none of them can take many hits. You'll have to set up your passes carefully.
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What you really want is the Italian spitfire: C205
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its much more fun to hunt spits with P-38's :D
Fixed!!! :noid
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Best range = Spit VIII (8)
Best climb and speed and high alt (20k+) performance = Spit XIV (14)
Best over-all fighter plane in AH = Gay16... er sorry, I meant the Spit XVI (16).
If you're going to chase bombers, I highly suggest the Spitfire 8 due to the longer range. The Spitfire 14 will get you there quicker but you may be rushed due to lack of fuel.
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Best range = Spit VIII (8)
Best climb and speed and high alt (20k+) performance = Spit XIV (14)
Best over-all fighter plane in AH = Gay16... er sorry, I meant the Spit XVI (16).
If you're going to chase bombers, I highly suggest the Spitfire 8 due to the longer range. The Spitfire 14 will get you there quicker but you may be rushed due to lack of fuel.
Yeah, but getting you there quicker also means you can throttle back and cruise sooner. And a full DT on a SpitXIV will get you to about 25K before switching to interals if you go max-climb and don't worry about covering a lot of the map on the way up.
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If you're going to chase bombers, I highly suggest the Spitfire 8 due to the longer range. The Spitfire 14 will get you there quicker but you may be rushed due to lack of fuel.
You don't need to use full throttle, you can easily catch bombers on cruise.
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NERD!!!! get real dude. spixteen is the same to aces high as softball is to MLB. made so girls can play the game. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
I was being sarcastic
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Spit XVI's are good, but they are a compromise in every way.
1) Speed - almost everything can catch you so you are committed to fight about 70% of all cons you see.
2) Loadout - Hispanos are truly awesome in the "giving hurt" department, but you only have 240 of them to share. as for the 50 cals - 500 rounds don't give much joy - so you have to be very sparing in ammo use - unlike many other rides and convergence is also an issue.
3) Range - Here's the catch - A tankful of fuel makes your ride wallow at anything under about 300mph.
4) Damage - very fragile - I sometimes think the oil lines are modelled on cardboard tube. One hit and you have about 7 minutes with a dirty wind shield before you become a glider.
5) Over the nose view - awful.
6) Rear View - not much better.
But they are so smooth in turns and if you come in with an E advantage you can be assured that unless you make very fudamental errors you'll retain that advantage through the fight. And the climb rate is superb against almost anything. And given the right circumstances you can turn with almost anything (within reason). I think they are the easiest ride in the game. easy is probably a bad choice - most forgiving.
The ultimate upside is that by flying only them you can embarrass your squaddies who hate the fact you always fly them but are too well mannered to mention it.
Happy Trails
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Spit XVI's are good, but they are a compromise in every way.
1) Speed - almost everything can catch you so you are committed to fight about 70% of all cons you see.
2) Loadout - Hispanos are truly awesome in the "giving hurt" department, but you only have 240 of them to share. as for the 50 cals - 500 rounds don't give much joy - so you have to be very sparing in ammo use - unlike many other rides and convergence is also an issue.
3) Range - Here's the catch - A tankful of fuel makes your ride wallow at anything under about 300mph.
4) Damage - very fragile - I sometimes think the oil lines are modelled on cardboard tube. One hit and you have about 7 minutes with a dirty wind shield before you become a glider.
5) Over the nose view - awful.
6) Rear View - not much better.
But they are so smooth in turns and if you come in with an E advantage you can be assured that unless you make very fudamental errors you'll retain that advantage through the fight. And the climb rate is superb against almost anything. And given the right circumstances you can turn with almost anything (within reason). I think they are the easiest ride in the game. easy is probably a bad choice - most forgiving.
The ultimate upside is that by flying only them you can embarrass your squaddies who hate the fact you always fly them but are too well mannered to mention it.
Happy Trails
Spitfire can out-climb pretty much anything and as long as you do the right stuff and not get hit you wont fall apart :aok
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Spitfire can out-climb pretty much anything and as long as you do the right stuff and not get hit you wont fall apart :aok
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=86&p2=84&pw=2>ype=2)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=86&p2=84&pw=2>ype=0)
a lower ENY 109g14 can climb and accelerate just as good as spit 16 :aok
another advantage that g14 has is the 10 minute wep :aok
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=86&p2=84&pw=2>ype=2)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=86&p2=84&pw=2>ype=0)
a lower ENY 109g14 can climb and accelerate just as good as spit 16 :aok
another advantage that g14 has is the 10 minute wep :aok
If it's good on paper does not mean it's good in reality. I don't think I ever had a 109 catch up to me if I did not want him to (besides the k, but I did get away from K on mk 14 lots of times as well)
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G14 faster up to 20k. Climbs better just about upto 15k. Top speed difference isn't even 10mph looks like.
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G14 faster up to 20k. Climbs better just about upto 15k. Top speed difference isn't even 10mph looks like.
Try it out, it will take 109 20min to get to it's top speed. By the time 109 accelerates spitfire will be way out of range and with an altitude advantage.
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Try it out, it will take 109 20min to get to it's top speed. By the time 109 accelerates spitfire will be way out of range and with an altitude advantage.
The G-14 and the Spit 16 have very similar speed, climb, and acceleration.
(with the G-14 having an advantage in speed with Wep to 20k and climb with Wep to 15k. acceleration is almost dead even)
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Now if we only had a Spitfire Mk. XVI with 150 octaine fuel. :devil
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Now if we only had a Spitfire Mk. XVI with 150 octaine fuel. :devil
I've seen on-paper results.
it's just out of this world :devil
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The G-14 and the Spit 16 have very similar speed, climb, and acceleration.
(with the G-14 having an advantage in speed with Wep to 20k and climb with Wep to 15k. acceleration is almost dead even)
I disagree, try testing it when you get a chance. It will surprise you.
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I disagree, try testing it when you get a chance. It will surprise you.
Considering that you have not flown a G-14 in the MA for over a year (and that was one single sortie) you should probably be the one testing things.
Nothing about either planes performances would "surprise" me.
I'm not the one confused about their performance and ability.
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Considering that you have not flown a G-14 in the MA for over a year
That sounds about right, however I don't believe HTC changed anything.
But I guess I'll give it a try, as you should try the spitfire.
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the spit is a great interceptor and medium alt bomber hunter - but the more time you spend getting alt, the less time you have to actually do anything up there.
also, enjoy the ride down with on or both wings shot off. . .
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I tend to fly 109s more often
but when I change to spitfire I tend to lose the wings in high G manuvers in combat :o I guess the elevator controls in spits mk 9 and above must be that good
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I tend to fly 109s more often
but when I change to spitfire I tend to lose the wings in high G manuvers in combat :o I guess the elevator controls in spits mk 9 and above must be that good
Yeah i think some spitfire control surfaces could still work at ~800mph
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Spitfire's wing did have the highest mach number in the war. :old:
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But I guess I'll give it a try, as you should try the spitfire.
I tend to fly 15-20 different planes each tour and try to mix it up.
I will jump into a 16 from time to time.
I like the 8 better.
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I rarely fly Spits but if I do, I usually go with the Seafire or the Spit8. The 8 is a British version of the pony, at least I consider it as :aok
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I like the 8 better.
Agreed
I'm not a big fan of the clipped wingtips.
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Only rarely flown the spit with some success, but when I have, its always been in a 8.