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Title: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on September 20, 2010, 10:54:11 AM
Call out your favorite buff hunter! :aok


Bf110G-2  and for over those CVs if not near land, I'll take an F4U1C


what's your favorite buff hunter? :banana:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Lusche on September 20, 2010, 10:58:19 AM
B5N...nobody is safe from me...

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8021/triplenine.jpg)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on September 20, 2010, 11:18:24 AM
B5N...nobody is safe from me...

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8021/triplenine.jpg)
:lol i got lucky and got to down 999000 on his takeoff yesterday
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 20, 2010, 11:52:15 AM
p38j.......just because......
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: speak on September 20, 2010, 12:03:36 PM
P-39Q  good accurate cannon, and you don't get a windscreen full of oil with an oil leak....
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: jdbecks on September 20, 2010, 12:07:39 PM
p38j.......just because......

He said Buff Hunters, not Bombers.  :noid


ME262
G14 with Gondolas
FW190 A8
TA152
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 20, 2010, 12:13:26 PM
He said Buff Hunters, not Bombers.  :noid


ME262
G14 with Gondolas
FW190 A8
TA152

HEY!!!!

who says you can't use a bomber to hunt a bomber?????? huh? huh??  :noid :neener: :rofl
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: AceHavok on September 20, 2010, 12:17:04 PM
P-47M here... Who says you need cannons for buff hunters!  :airplane:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Imowface on September 20, 2010, 12:27:12 PM
109G14 with gondos, mg 151 in the hub and clearing the ammo in the cowl guns
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Muzzy on September 20, 2010, 12:42:37 PM
I seem to do well with the FW A8 although the TA152 is great for quick intercepts
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: RoGenT on September 20, 2010, 01:22:28 PM
B-25  and PonyD :aok

Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: IrishOne on September 20, 2010, 03:51:59 PM
A8 all the way  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Jayhawk on September 20, 2010, 03:52:56 PM
A8 or I've been doing well with the P-51.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: L0nGb0w on September 20, 2010, 04:19:07 PM
Mossie!  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: StokesAk on September 20, 2010, 04:31:11 PM
D11, you can get alot of perks for shooting down lancs and such, its a 30 ENY plane :)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Infidelz on September 20, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
G-14 With gondolas...... or the A-5 with full gun package ....... or the P-47M with 8 fiddy.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 20, 2010, 05:53:24 PM
D11, you can get alot of perks for shooting down lancs and such, its a 30 ENY plane :)

i've never really cared about perks. i think the only thing i've ever used perks for, was to take out a tiger.....and i died rather quickly in it.

 to me, killing a well gunned bomber is actually more of a challenge than killing another fighter......that's where my fun comes in.  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Wagger on September 20, 2010, 06:05:48 PM
Give me either the Bf 109K-4 or the Bf 109G-14 w/30mm and gondolas.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: cobia38 on September 20, 2010, 06:23:28 PM

  so if a buff hunts fighters what would it be called ?  hunter buff perhaps  :noid
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 20, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
  so if a buff hunts fighters what would it be called ?  hunter buff perhaps  :noid

 :rofl :rofl

i was in a kind of weird mood a few weeks ago. was taking lancs out for a run. i get a call that there's b-17's inbound to one of our v-bases.......so i figure.....a buff vs buff fight should be fun. i caught up to him, got within 4.5k, and he bailed. that sucked. i wanted to see how fun it would've been.....oh well...... :noid
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on September 20, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
am i honestly the only 110 buff hunter in here? :headscratch: :lol
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: fbWldcat on September 20, 2010, 08:28:55 PM
I like the 110 for lower bombers, for higher altitudes I love the D-40.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 20, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
am i honestly the only 110 buff hunter in here? :headscratch: :lol
nah...striker1 used a 110 i think to come after my lancs once.......
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: IrishOne on September 20, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
the only way to kill buffs  :lol  :aok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBit-xSsXyM
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Nemisis on September 20, 2010, 09:04:34 PM
110G2 cause its got whats probably the best gun package in the game, buckets of ammunition, and oil leakes don't blind you.

190A8, got a good gunpackage, oil leaks aren't crippiling, and it can take a pretty good hit.

N1K2, or C-hog because they both have 4 20mm's and buckets of ammo.

P-47 because 8 .50's just shread bombers.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 20, 2010, 09:26:35 PM
109G14 with gondos, mg 151 in the hub and clearing the ammo in the cowl guns

You drank the Kool-aid, didn't you.    :rofl

My favorite is the 190A-8 w/ the quad 20mm and convergence set to 450 yards.  Yes, the 110G-2 is nice but it is too easy to kill the buffs and it isnt all that fast nor does it climb well, especially w/ the 4 air to air rockets.   ;)  For HIIIIIGH alt buffs, say 28k or higher, nothing beats the P47N or M.  I seem to think the N is a wee bit better up that high due to the bigger wing, but I'm not P47 expert.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Karnak on September 20, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
Low to medium altitude bombers are Mossie food, high altitude bombers I'd use a Ta152 or P-47M/N for.

Bf110G-2 has the best gun package in the game.....for shooting buildings.  Mosquito VI has the gun package in the game against aircraft, and much better performance.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: IrishOne on September 20, 2010, 11:30:22 PM
  Yes, the 110G-2 is nice but it is too easy to kill the buffs

isn't that the point??
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: BaldEagl on September 20, 2010, 11:50:55 PM
190A-8 followed by the 110G-2 both with big gun packages and no rockets although the Tempest is a nice third choice.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on September 21, 2010, 11:35:37 AM
Low to medium altitude bombers are Mossie food, high altitude bombers I'd use a Ta152 or P-47M/N for.

Bf110G-2 has the best gun package in the game.....for shooting buildings.  Mosquito VI has the gun package in the game against aircraft, and much better performance.
thats the reason why me and my squaddie CAPped a CV one night and ended up killing 4 buffs each in...110G2s... :headscratch: 4 hispanos are nice but 4 20mms and 2 30mms are pretty juicy. add those mgs in and its a wonderbird. 2 on one pass through in a formation and follow up kills the third. or if winging, have one get two and the other get one, then the next formation you repeat but switch flyers for the two and the one. simple, efficient, and deadly.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Imowface on September 22, 2010, 12:50:14 AM
You drank the Kool-aid, didn't you.    :rofl

My favorite is the 190A-8 w/ the quad 20mm and convergence set to 450 yards.  Yes, the 110G-2 is nice but it is too easy to kill the buffs and it isnt all that fast nor does it climb well, especially w/ the 4 air to air rockets.   ;)  For HIIIIIGH alt buffs, say 28k or higher, nothing beats the P47N or M.  I seem to think the N is a wee bit better up that high due to the bigger wing, but I'm not P47 expert.

dont knock the kool' man haha, yes I get rid of the MG's to save weight and the ammo in the 3 20's is more then enough for me to use before going down in flames, with a broken radiator as well lol
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: bozon on September 22, 2010, 03:52:26 AM
Low to medium altitude bombers are Mossie food
QFT
"Low" can be as high as 20k, but over that the engines straggle for air. I think it is better than the 110 for this purpose due to the mosquito's superior speed, climb and very low E-bleed. Really helps setting up the attacks and re-positioning. The front view is superb for high deflection (long range) shots that the hispanos are capable of providing.

Tempest, followed by 190A8/Ta152 are perhaps the overall best. Speed is important for setting up a good and safe attack and while the firepower is lower than the 110, it is far more than just adequate.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Karnak on September 22, 2010, 07:52:34 AM
thats the reason why me and my squaddie CAPped a CV one night and ended up killing 4 buffs each in...110G2s... :headscratch: 4 hispanos are nice but 4 20mms and 2 30mms are pretty juicy. add those mgs in and its a wonderbird. 2 on one pass through in a formation and follow up kills the third. or if winging, have one get two and the other get one, then the next formation you repeat but switch flyers for the two and the one. simple, efficient, and deadly.
And?

Never said it couldn't be done in Bf110s, simply that it is easier to do it in Mossies.  I've done nearly as well as both of you two did together in a single Mossie sortie.  Neither means anything though because we can't comment very much on the skill of the bomber pilots we fought.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on September 22, 2010, 10:37:50 AM
And?

Never said it couldn't be done in Bf110s, simply that it is easier to do it in Mossies.  I've done nearly as well as both of you two did together in a single Mossie sortie.  Neither means anything though because we can't comment very much on the skill of the bomber pilots we fought.
point made and conversation closed :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 22, 2010, 06:21:48 PM
I've found the P-38J (G and L too) to be rather effective in killing any bomber in this game.  It has the fire power to kill a bomber in a single pass without needing to use a lot of ammunition and if you set up your attack angle correctly you can even take out the entire formation in a single pass.

Honestly, which is the better bomber killer is purely subjective in most cases.  With the exception of a few fighters, the fighters in this game are all capable of easily dispatching bombers.  It really boils down to skill and how you attack the bombers.  Hell, I've shot down a Lancaster in a Stuka before.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: L0nGb0w on September 22, 2010, 06:51:42 PM
  so if a buff hunts fighters what would it be called ?  hunter buff perhaps  :noid

Death star  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: RoGenT on September 22, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
This was awhile back ago but I actually had fun time shooting down a B17 in Stuka; Nevermind the fact it took ALL off my ammo   :joystick:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Lusche on September 22, 2010, 09:20:54 PM
With the exception of a few fighters, the fighters in this game are all capable of easily dispatching bombers. 

+1, particularly if you have time to climb and are prowling the skies for buffs.

The only situations where it really makes a difference are when you have to do a quick interception from the ground (you can't beat the 109K and maybe G14 in that category), or the bombers are flying at extremely high altitudes (30K+)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: BaldEagl on September 22, 2010, 09:46:04 PM
Hell, I've shot down a Lancaster in a Stuka before.

Can't say I've ever killed a buff with a Stuka but I did get two B-26's in a single pass one night in a Hurricane MkI.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: RoGenT on September 22, 2010, 10:12:52 PM
Can't say I've ever killed a buff with a Stuka but I did get two B-26's in a single pass one night in a Hurricane MkI.

OKay, now you are just braggin   :banana:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: BrownBaron on September 23, 2010, 01:05:11 AM
am i honestly the only 110 buff hunter in here? :headscratch: :lol

4x20mm+2x30mm ftw.  :)

(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/bbazzal/110.jpg)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: B3YT on September 23, 2010, 02:49:13 AM
hurricane Mk Ia . just because.  hit the wing roots of B24's and it's burning.   B17 you aim for the tail.   Lancasters aim for the elevators (the lanc will then start to  pull up with out them)  . Ju88 aim for the engines . Bostons aim for the cockpit and PW is easy . B25's again tail/ elevator. B26 ......stay away , but if you have to outer wing to clip it  from tip to engine.     I've got a set of B24's a few times with hurricane Mk Ia with ammo to spare same with B17s , but lancs tend to soke up alot . you just have to get very very close (200 yrds or less)  . we could do with the IIb though
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 23, 2010, 07:43:31 AM
hurricane Mk Ia . just because.  hit the wing roots of B24's and it's burning.   B17 you aim for the tail.   Lancasters aim for the elevators (the lanc will then start to  pull up with out them)  . Ju88 aim for the engines . Bostons aim for the cockpit and PW is easy . B25's again tail/ elevator. B26 ......stay away , but if you have to outer wing to clip it  from tip to engine.     I've got a set of B24's a few times with hurricane Mk Ia with ammo to spare same with B17s , but lancs tend to soke up alot . you just have to get very very close (200 yrds or less)  . we could do with the IIb though

just an fyi.......the pulling up thing on the lancs......it's VERY easy to control with throttle management. i flew 3 sectors home, after killing the 110 that took mine off.  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 23, 2010, 07:49:03 AM
pee-38 o doom does nicely.....
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/kruge-2.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/mwlanc3.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa135/1LTCAP/ju88flamer.jpg)

i should note, that in the pic attacking the lancs, i was trying to save the cv....i misjudged, and hit the third plane with my plane........ :bolt:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Fatboy26 on September 23, 2010, 08:02:01 AM
110 all the way.  I love the rockets.  If the buffs are much over 20k, then I just whine about not having a 410 for the little bit of higher alt performance.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on September 23, 2010, 11:27:42 AM
110 all the way.  I love the rockets.  If the buffs are much over 20k, then I just whine about not having a 410 for the little bit of higher alt performance.
agreed :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Volron on September 23, 2010, 12:45:05 PM
If facing Allied Bombers:
Fw 190 A-8 with the Quad 20 option (Rockets depending)
Me 109 G-14 with the Tri 20 option
Me 110 G-2 with heavy gun pack (Rockets depending)

If facing Axis Bombers:
P-47 D-25
Spitfire Mk IX
Yak 9T

If facing any type against a CV:
F4U-1C (Only when flying CAP)
F6F-5
Seafire Mk II

High Altitude Bombers:
Ta 152 H-1
Me 109 K-4

MOST of the times, it's Allied bombers that are used. (for obvious reasons :lol)  If I have a little time, I will up the 190 or the 110, but if time is a little bit of an issue, it's the 109 that I will take.  I don't run into many Axis bombers myself (probably just unlucky), but if I know there are some coming, the D-25 is my 1st thought.  The Yak 9T can be a LOT of fun to intercept with but, the Spit 9 I will use if there isn't a lot of time.  When it comes to CV defense, I use the F6F or the Seafire.  Depends on mood. :lol  I use the 1C when I'm flying CAP (or trying to) over the CV, otherwise I don't up it with bombers inbound.  As for our HIGH altitude "friends", the 152 is usually my choice though I am prone to take the 109 on a whim. :lol
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on September 23, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
in midwar, i rarely see any axis bombers up. i fly the ju88 once in awhile, but i mostly see lancs, b17's and b26's.

 oh yea....i see a lot of bee38's lately too.  :noid
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: iwomba on September 30, 2010, 01:25:19 AM
If facing Allied Bombers:
Fw 190 A-8 with the Quad 20 option (Rockets depending)
Me 109 G-14 with the Tri 20 option
Me 110 G-2 with heavy gun pack (Rockets depending)

If facing Axis Bombers:
P-47 D-25
Spitfire Mk IX
Yak 9T

If facing any type against a CV:
F4U-1C (Only when flying CAP)
F6F-5
Seafire Mk II

High Altitude Bombers:
Ta 152 H-1
Me 109 K-4


I just use my c205 for buffs.

Every tour I have more kills of buffs than any other plane type.

You don't always need big tatters or multiple cannons to kill buffs.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
i choose the 152 the n1k or my favorite-the brewster hehehe :neener:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Muzzy on October 02, 2010, 03:07:15 PM
how do you catch buffs with a brewster? some of them can out run you.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: skorpion on October 08, 2010, 08:00:45 PM
i try to dive from 5k above them or make sure i kill 2 of the engines  :noid
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 08, 2010, 08:44:10 PM
i choose the 152 the n1k or my favorite-the brewster hehehe :neener:


i try to dive from 5k above them or make sure i kill 2 of the engines  :noid

You don't have any kills against any bombers in a Brewster or a N1K2, in fact since you've started in Tour 128 you only have two kills in a Brewster and neither of them were bombers.  The only bomber you have credit for shooting down is a B-25C and you did that in a Ta152.

you might want to rethink what tactics you're using when trying to intercept bombers in a Brewster because your current tactic isn't working so well.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Masherbrum on October 08, 2010, 11:39:28 PM

You don't have any kills against any bombers in a Brewster or a N1K2, in fact since you've started in Tour 128 you only have two kills in a Brewster and neither of them were bombers.  The only bomber you have credit for shooting down is a B-25C and you did that in a Ta152.

you might want to rethink what tactics you're using when trying to intercept bombers in a Brewster because your current tactic isn't working so well.


ack-ack

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Volron on October 09, 2010, 08:00:19 PM

I just use my c205 for buffs.

Every tour I have more kills of buffs than any other plane type.

You don't always need big tatters or multiple cannons to kill buffs.

It's more of a personal preference actually.  I grew up on Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe and Aces Over Europe, hence my choices of planes for allied bombers.  Even though the 110 was not in either, oh the fun I had in those game.... :x  There were times I would let the little demo thing play out on SWOTL.  I did that once for 12 hours, since I bored outta my gore but didn't feel well enough to play.  Twice they got close to target but only ONCE did those B-17's make it to their target and drop.  All other times, they got wasted well before target.


There are times, I will up an A6M2 for bombers (providing they are low enough and/or I have enough time to get up to their alt), just for the challenge.  Very tricky to intercept in that thing considering how slow it is and the amount of 20mm it carries, not to mention it is made of paper. :lol  Can still be a lot of fun.  Hmmm....I haven't done that in a while, now that I think about it.  Just might do that next go. :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: caldera on October 09, 2010, 08:49:47 PM

You don't have any kills against any bombers in a Brewster or a N1K2, in fact since you've started in Tour 128 you only have two kills in a Brewster and neither of them were bombers.  The only bomber you have credit for shooting down is a B-25C and you did that in a Ta152.

you might want to rethink what tactics you're using when trying to intercept bombers in a Brewster because your current tactic isn't working so well.


ack-ack

The stats pages sure come in handy.  :rofl



There are times, I will up an A6M2 for bombers (providing they are low enough and/or I have enough time to get up to their alt), just for the challenge.  Very tricky to intercept in that thing considering how slow it is and the amount of 20mm it carries, not to mention it is made of paper. :lol  Can still be a lot of fun.  Hmmm....I haven't done that in a while, now that I think about it.  Just might do that next go. :aok

Chased a set of 20k B-24s once in a A6M2.  Kept barrel rolling on his 6 'til he shot all his rounds and then cruised straight in for the kills.   
My best ever was 6 Lancs in a 109E-4.  I used every little bb round it had.  <pingpingpingpingpingpingpingping
Just a few of those rare occasions when there are players even worse than me.   :)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 800nate on October 10, 2010, 09:53:48 PM
ki67 20 mm in top gun kick but plane :aok :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on October 10, 2010, 10:18:08 PM

You don't have any kills against any bombers in a Brewster or a N1K2, in fact since you've started in Tour 128 you only have two kills in a Brewster and neither of them were bombers.  The only bomber you have credit for shooting down is a B-25C and you did that in a Ta152.

you might want to rethink what tactics you're using when trying to intercept bombers in a Brewster because your current tactic isn't working so well.


ack-ack
he also said in the game that he was 18, then 20, then 30, then he pulled the remark "youll know this by the time you are 60"...
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: curry1 on October 11, 2010, 10:12:46 AM
P-38L
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: fbWldcat on October 11, 2010, 03:08:49 PM
he also said in the game that he was 18, then 20, then 30, then he pulled the remark "youll know this by the time you are 60"...

Perhaps he has shade accounts that he is mixing up?

The 190's are excellent buff hunters for every altitude. You have the 190 A-5/A-8 and Dora for low to Med altitude, and the TA-152 for high alt bombers. I am also partial to the 163, although I never use it much. The occassional high bombing horde mission gives me the opprotunity. Only a few kills from it, though.   :)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Void on October 11, 2010, 09:13:03 PM
I hunt with a 109 F8 and use PB1s on bombers. Attack from above and the side with salvo 6 or 12 and a delay of 0.07 and you will get 1 bomber a pass or 3 if you hit both the wing points from right to left or left to right. It's really effective if used right.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on October 11, 2010, 09:57:13 PM
If I'm going buff hunting the only thing I'm taking is my trusty Me110G-2 with AIM-9 Sidewinders. :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: LLogann on October 12, 2010, 02:02:59 PM
+1 as long as it's below 28k.   :salute

Mossie!  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Letalis on October 12, 2010, 05:10:52 PM
P-38L is my fave ride for pure intercept runs (don't care for Spits) 
P-47D25 is where I've made the most kills though (function of time) 
The jug needs time to get in position, but once there, beautiful guns and able to take a hit :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: W7LPNRICK on October 19, 2010, 12:45:07 AM
If I'm going buff hunting the only thing I'm taking is my trusty Me110G-2 with AIM-9 Sidewinders. :aok

You wish those were Aim-9's hehe but me too on the 110 w/rkts
second choice when ords dwn, Jug-M buzz-saw
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on October 26, 2010, 10:31:11 AM
You wish those were Aim-9's hehe but me too on the 110 w/rkts
second choice when ords dwn, Jug-M buzz-saw


They're just as good since they always find their mark.  :aok

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/film95_03500.ahf
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: W7LPNRICK on October 26, 2010, 12:59:01 PM

They're just as good since they always find their mark.  :aok

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/film95_03500.ahf

Nice shot....I love doing that. Surprises heck outs the bomber pilot. The newbs think it was puffy ack.  :banana:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on October 26, 2010, 01:28:52 PM
I always try to spray a few rounds out at 2.5 or 2k to make it look like I'm a noob attacking from dead six. Try and make them think they are about to get an easy kill. Then once they see the rockets fly there is nothing they can do. Most of the time I can get all three but some times I only get two and have to make a gun run on the last bomber.  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: JOACH1M on October 26, 2010, 02:37:15 PM
I like the g14 with gondolas and I like p47d
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: branch37 on October 26, 2010, 02:47:42 PM
F4U-1C  :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Wildcat1 on October 26, 2010, 03:20:26 PM

They're just as good since they always find their mark.  :aok

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/film95_03500.ahf


 :rofl poor scotch!

personally i always hunt with my A8, or my 38J
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Muzzy on October 27, 2010, 10:40:23 PM
I'm finding i can hit pretty confidently in the A8 from -600, but I can use corsairs in a pinch as well, although the kills aren't as certain. 

Looking at the pictures I think I need to work on my deflection shooting some more though. :)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: lyric1 on October 28, 2010, 03:08:45 PM
Early war none better they can't out run you & they don't expect it when you shoot them down. Boston. :rock




(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/bostonon88.png)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Wagger on October 31, 2010, 04:09:38 PM
I prefer the Bf 109G-14 with the heavy gun package.  1 30mm and 2 20mm.   Like to do an initial run from head on or from the 2 to 10 high. 
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Zeagle on November 12, 2010, 09:32:11 AM
TA-152
262
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on November 12, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
I always try to spray a few rounds out at 2.5 or 2k to make it look like I'm a noob attacking from dead six. Try and make them think they are about to get an easy kill. Then once they see the rockets fly there is nothing they can do. Most of the time I can get all three but some times I only get two and have to make a gun run on the last bomber.  :aok

i would think a rudder turn from the gunners position would dodge em?
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on November 12, 2010, 04:51:19 PM
i shouldn't do this....but it seems there's a lot with good advice in here......how will you guys go after the 29 if/when they put it in game?
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Ardy123 on November 12, 2010, 04:55:09 PM
Ho it, that glass nose is asking to get punched.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: LLogann on November 12, 2010, 05:03:31 PM
 :aok  Except the B17.......  :cheers:

Ho it, that glass nose is asking to get punched.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Masherbrum on November 12, 2010, 05:07:13 PM
:aok  Except the B17.......  :cheers:


Abbeville Kids HO'd 17's with great success.   17s in game are easy to HO and should be a preferred choice.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on November 12, 2010, 05:12:57 PM
as dumb as this is gonna sound....would you believe i never thougth to ho a bomber? i sit there, and try to get myself some nice dive/slash attacks.......
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: cobia38 on November 12, 2010, 09:01:10 PM
as dumb as this is gonna sound....would you believe i never thougth to ho a bomber? i sit there, and try to get myself some nice dive/slash attacks.......

  I got a bomber for ya to HO  :D
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 12, 2010, 09:30:34 PM
as dumb as this is gonna sound....would you believe i never thougth to ho a bomber? i sit there, and try to get myself some nice dive/slash attacks.......

Cap in all honesty if you think about it its simple. your can pound rounds into the wing root, unless you hit it enough to sever the wing the bomber can still fly. you can blast off 85% of the tail the bomber can still fly, you can smoke 3 of 4 engines (or 1 of 2) and the bomber can still fly, but if the pilots are dead who is there to fly the plane?

the best attacks i have watched are those of a skilled pilot diving almost straight down (approximately a 15 degree angle) coming from the back of the bomber and angling towards the front with lead. as they get within 800 or so they pull the trigger and the cockpit of the bomber lights up. a second later boom the bomber keals over and heads for the dirt. the attacker pulls up on the stick banking up and away, wash, rinse, repeat. another benifit from attacking from such a high steep angle is that it minimizes the number of guns the bomber group can bring to bear against you as well as your angle of attack from his perspective is very deceptive and makes you and even more difficult target for him to lead properly for a solid hit on you.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on November 12, 2010, 09:39:32 PM
i would think a rudder turn from the gunners position would dodge em?

Once fired you have only a couple of seconds to react. Iv never ran into someone who was able to dodge the rockets after I have fired them.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: CAP1 on November 12, 2010, 09:52:42 PM
  I got a bomber for ya to HO  :D

howdy cobia!!!! <<S>> how ya been?

 
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 13, 2010, 02:11:09 PM
That A20 ain't no Bomber Cobia...not in your hands anyway.   :D
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Karnak on November 13, 2010, 02:25:02 PM
I wonder if it would be fun to up a Mossie VI with 100% fuel and DTs and stooge around rear area airfields after the B-29 is released and see if I could bag some on climb out....
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: LLogann on November 13, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
Well, let me rephrase...... I will only speak for myself, and 999000.......... Nobody is ho'ing my 17's.   :cheers:

Abbeville Kids HO'd 17's with great success.   17s in game are easy to HO and should be a preferred choice.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 13, 2010, 03:12:59 PM
Well, let me rephrase...... I will only speak for myself, and 999000.......... Nobody is ho'ing my 17's.   :cheers:


HA! i have already discovered how to defeat 999000's .50 cal lasers of DOOM! i malinger just off his 6 taking my time to fly slowly and steadily at him. while he in his tail gun enjoys (maybe a bit too much i think) the systematic and sergical process of disecting my slow moving plane any one of my countrymen booms in from the heavens and blasts the nose off at least one of his formation rides! if its a Muppet i am working with then the odds are they will get at least 2 and possibly the third in 999000's formation. i will trade 1 death for 3  :neener:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Ardy123 on November 13, 2010, 09:23:05 PM
Once I was about 4k in the air and a bomber was dropping its bombs and one of its bombs hit me and killed me. I wanna do that to a bomber and watch it eat its own medicine.

I can just see it now, bring a g14 with an egg, get above it, and dive bomb the bomber :devil
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: LLogann on November 13, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
I have heard this story before..... Still waiting for the joy of actually seeing it for myself.   :aok  It might be the only time I wouldn't be too upset about dying.   :D  Well, if it's a 262, maybe not.   :uhoh

Once I was about 4k in the air and a bomber was dropping its bombs and one of its bombs hit me and killed me. I wanna do that to a bomber and watch it eat its own medicine.

I can just see it now, bring a g14 with an egg, get above it, and dive bomb the bomber :devil

Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on November 14, 2010, 12:47:51 AM
I have heard this story before..... Still waiting for the joy of actually seeing it for myself.   :aok  It might be the only time I wouldn't be too upset about dying.   :D  Well, if it's a 262, maybe not.   :uhoh


There is a video on youtube somewhere of a bomber mission in the SEA where a friendly flew under his squadmate while he was dropping his bombs and got killed. I watched it a few days ago. Let me see if I can find the link in my history and Ill post the link.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: LLogann on November 14, 2010, 01:03:00 AM
Yes Please!   :cheers:

There is a video on youtube somewhere of a bomber mission in the SEA where a friendly flew under his squadmate while he was dropping his bombs and got killed. I watched it a few days ago. Let me see if I can find the link in my history and Ill post the link.

 :salute
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: W7LPNRICK on November 14, 2010, 02:57:50 AM
There is a video on youtube somewhere of a bomber mission in the SEA where a friendly flew under his squadmate while he was dropping his bombs and got killed. I watched it a few days ago. Let me see if I can find the link in my history and Ill post the link.

There's a famous clip of WWII bombers in which it appears one bomber looks like it dropped a bomb through the wing tank of another and it spiraled down. After forensic film analysis, it was impossible to see the bomb hit the wing, and just as likely that puffy-ack killed it.  :salute
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on November 14, 2010, 03:35:20 AM
There's a famous clip of WWII bombers in which it appears one bomber looks like it dropped a bomb through the wing tank of another and it spiraled down. After forensic film analysis, it was impossible to see the bomb hit the wing, and just as likely that puffy-ack killed it.  :salute

Yes people have been arguing about that clip for as long as I can remember. IMO it was a direct hit from a 88mm or some other AA gun.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Karnak on November 14, 2010, 12:49:06 PM
There is a photo of a B-17 that got hit by the bomb of another as I recall.  Lost its port horizontal stabilizer.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Larry on November 14, 2010, 01:48:26 PM
There is a photo of a B-17 that got hit by the bomb of another as I recall.  Lost its port horizontal stabilizer.

I have seen that one.

I love the photo of the B17 that got rammed by a 190 (i think) and nearly cut the tail off. It was able to make it back home and when it touched down the tail collapsed.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Karnak on November 14, 2010, 01:55:30 PM
I have seen that one.

I love the photo of the B17 that got rammed by a 190 (i think) and nearly cut the tail off. It was able to make it back home and when it touched down the tail collapsed.
I thought that damage was cased by the wing of a Bf109.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: DEECONX on November 14, 2010, 01:58:04 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Kassill1/B17decapitated.jpg)

Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: skorpion on November 14, 2010, 02:29:57 PM
(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Kassill1/B17decapitated.jpg)


  :uhoh ouchy  :O  :eek:
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on November 14, 2010, 05:43:41 PM
how is this thread still going? :lol i rarely get a thread that goes for 7 pages on anything other than oclub or Gen Dis.
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 14, 2010, 06:09:11 PM
OH POOP!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone 321BAR has finally found us here! time to move to another thread!

you will all get the secret thread location in your in boxes (alright alright stop! get your dirty little minds out of the gutter!!)

see ya there!

 :D
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Muzzy on November 14, 2010, 06:13:22 PM
What? Is 321 like the K4 of threads? Every time he posts it dies? :)
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 14, 2010, 06:24:39 PM
almost Muzzy!

give him just a couple of seconds and he'll be babbling on about the need of having the M18 in the game! he will find some bizarre and unrealistic way to link the must have of the M18 to the discussion of killing bombers! it doesnt matter how insane his proposed link will really be, he will put it out there in a cheezey attempt to justify his blatant promotion of the need for the M18!
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on November 14, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
almost Muzzy!

give him just a couple of seconds and he'll be babbling on about the need of having the M18 in the game! he will find some bizarre and unrealistic way to link the must have of the M18 to the discussion of killing bombers! it doesnt matter how insane his proposed link will really be, he will put it out there in a cheezey attempt to justify his blatant promotion of the need for the M18!
hmm... it IS faster than the M4/75 :noid maybe it'd fire just as fast and i'd be able to kill bombers who love to carpet the GVers AND not get shot by them? :noid :headscratch: i AM a good main gunner A/C killer :D
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: FLOTSOM on November 14, 2010, 10:41:46 PM
SEEEE I TOLD YOU! DONT SAY I DIDNT TRY TO WARN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on November 14, 2010, 11:23:44 PM
SEEEE I TOLD YOU! DONT SAY I DIDNT TRY TO WARN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D

You know you love me :aok
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Zeagle on November 15, 2010, 02:05:33 PM
 :O
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: Wildcat1 on November 16, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
gigity
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: 321BAR on November 16, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Buff hunters...
Post by: fullmetalbullet on November 16, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
109G6 or a zeke.