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Title: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: JHerne on September 22, 2010, 11:30:11 AM
I would like to have the ability to adjust the distance between my aircraft and my two drones, or perhaps have pre-established formations, line abreast, line astern, echelon right or left.

This provides the ability to widen or narrow the drop pattern, or in the case of echelon formations, allows multiple bombers to effectively work one side of a target. One guy echelon left, one guy normal, one guy echelon right.

The downside is that it exposes one aircraft more than others to enemy fighters, aka, tail-end Charlie, and it reduces the effectiveness of a bomb drop as the aircraft are physically further apart.

But I think its an overall good balance.

Flame away...
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: gyrene81 on September 22, 2010, 12:06:57 PM
Good idea and I don't think anyone will flame you for it...just a question as to whether or not HTC wants to code it.

 :aok
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Volron on September 22, 2010, 12:47:07 PM
This would be awesome to implement.  You have to bare in mind that, if you adjust your drones out too far, you will lose them REAL fast in some turns.

For towns and the Capitol, this could be VERY useful.  Have one in the L echelon, one in standard, one in R echelon, or hell, all in line abreast.

What about adjusting your formation while in the air?  Pop up the clipboard map, have an added option for bombers to adjust your formation while in the air.  Say you lose your number 2 drone, but you want to keep the number 3 drone on your L side.  Open the clipboard, choose formations and select the L echelon.  This way, your number 3 would only move to the number 2's spot and stay to the left of your plane.  I may be getting my positions mixed up, but only just woke up..so yeah. :lol  Do correct me if I'm wrong. :aok  However, I believe you understand what I am getting at. :salute
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: AceHavok on September 22, 2010, 02:57:14 PM
Excellent Idea. +1
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: STXAce8 on September 22, 2010, 06:17:14 PM
YES +1111111
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Pigslilspaz on September 23, 2010, 01:01:38 AM
Always asked for and never a complaint, don't know why it's not there yet. (He-111)
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Bino on September 23, 2010, 05:13:30 AM
+1 for selectable bomber formations   :aok
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Ghosth on September 23, 2010, 06:46:09 AM
Yes, even if it costs me perks YES.

Distance, and basic formation, line astern, line abreast, Echelon right, left, and of course the V.
Could be as simple as a short list of formations as mouse over buttons. With a small box to input a distance in yards. Parameters being something like 5 - 100.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Rolex on September 23, 2010, 07:04:21 AM
I think dot commands (.form X where X=1, 2, 3 or 4, and .space X for spacing) would be neat.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: ebfd11 on September 23, 2010, 08:11:47 AM
Sounds like a good idea and +1 to rolex's idea
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Traveler on September 23, 2010, 11:08:31 AM
+1, Excellent idea, Would also ask that instead of aircraft blowing up when separated from the formation.  The Formation commander could order the aircraft to reform.  Or have them return to the base they departed from  and land.  With their guns performing auto defense if they are attacked. 
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Jayhawk on September 23, 2010, 11:11:59 AM
+1, Excellent idea, Would also ask that instead of aircraft blowing up when separated from the formation.  The Formation commander could order the aircraft to reform.  Or have them return to the base they departed from  and land.  With their guns performing auto defense if they are attacked. 

Let's not hijack a good idea with a bad one.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Traveler on September 23, 2010, 12:04:28 PM
Let's not hijack a good idea with a bad one.

Is it your opinion that aircraft out of formation blew up doing WWII?   That they just simply exploded and would ‘t have attempted to reform?
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Jayhawk on September 23, 2010, 12:42:28 PM
Is it your opinion that aircraft out of formation blew up doing WWII?   That they just simply exploded and would ‘t have attempted to reform?

Start your own wish.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Pigslilspaz on September 23, 2010, 12:45:51 PM
Is it your opinion that aircraft out of formation blew up doing WWII?   That they just simply exploded and would ‘t have attempted to reform?
Just please don't toss any extras into other's wishes, that's what normally gets them knocked down.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Volron on September 23, 2010, 12:52:30 PM
I think having a clip board option to adjust formations while in flight, would be better vs only the dot command option.  To adjust distance while in flight, however, I think it would be better with just the dot command.  I drool at the idea of being able to select what formation to use with my bombers...*drools* :x
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: gyrene81 on September 23, 2010, 01:01:11 PM
Is it your opinion that aircraft out of formation blew up doing WWII?   That they just simply exploded and would ‘t have attempted to reform?
I believe he was referencing the idea of having the aircraft return to base and auto-gunned without being piloted. The explosions you refer to generally happen when the drones collide with something, it's not arbitrary explosions because they got separated. In general your suggestions are bad ideas mainly because the return to base option with auto-guns is gamey and the exploding drones can be avoided. The drones already attempt to rejoin the formation as part of the program, no extra commands are needed.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: LLogann on September 23, 2010, 01:56:27 PM
Yes, again!

+1
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Traveler on September 23, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
I believe he was referencing the idea of having the aircraft return to base and auto-gunned without being piloted. The explosions you refer to generally happen when the drones collide with something, it's not arbitrary explosions because they got separated. In general your suggestions are bad ideas mainly because the return to base option with auto-guns is gamey and the exploding drones can be avoided. The drones already attempt to rejoin the formation as part of the program, no extra commands are needed.


The drones that get separated from the lead aircraft explode based on distance or colliding with something, but distance is a factor.  I really don’t think the drones flying back to base is any more gamey then drones flying formation with no pilots.  It ‘s all kinda gamey , don’t you think.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: gyrene81 on September 23, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
The drones that get separated from the lead aircraft explode based on distance or colliding with something, but distance is a factor.  I really don’t think the drones flying back to base is any more gamey then drones flying formation with no pilots.  It ‘s all kinda gamey , don’t you think.
I have no idea what the distance would be for the drones to explode. Last time I saw something hinky with a bomber drone there was one stuck on the side of a hill at a base and the guy who took the bombers up was a full sector away...yes I saw it and had to ask on country who left the drone on the hill.

It is all kinda gamey true, but do we really want to add to it with auto-guns and long range remote commands?
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: LLogann on September 23, 2010, 02:39:29 PM
Another way to say this: "I don't want to be a bomber commander, I just want to fly bombers."  

The drones that get separated from the lead aircraft explode based on distance or colliding with something, but distance is a factor.  I really don’t think the drones flying back to base is any more gamey then drones flying formation with no pilots.  It ‘s all kinda gamey , don’t you think.

You hijacking this thread with something like that, is easy to get burned on.  No matter how you slice it, that is what your asking for..... No longer getting a DEATH for flying away from your drones.... That YOU are in command of, that YOU are responsible for bring home safely.  

BACK TO THE THREAD..... +1
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: curry1 on September 23, 2010, 04:16:45 PM
I have no idea what the distance would be for the drones to explode. Last time I saw something hinky with a bomber drone there was one stuck on the side of a hill at a base and the guy who took the bombers up was a full sector away...yes I saw it and had to ask on country who left the drone on the hill.

It is all kinda gamey true, but do we really want to add to it with auto-guns and long range remote commands?

It seems as if you have never flown a bomber if your drones get more then 1k away from you, blamo theyexplode.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Void on September 23, 2010, 04:30:24 PM
Excellent idea. and rolex's idea too.
 :aok
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: DERK13 on September 23, 2010, 05:11:01 PM
YES i completely agree with ya +1
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: gyrene81 on September 24, 2010, 09:02:36 AM
It seems as if you have never flown a bomber if your drones get more then 1k away from you, blamo theyexplode.
It seems that you know not of what you are speaking, I have flown bombers and not personally witnessed a drone explode due to distance from the primary plane, it has always been due to a collision with another object. If the drones explode when the primary plane is more than 1000 yards away, then it would be impossible for someone to have a drone stuck on the side of a hill while he is miles away, wouldn't it? Yet, you still find them.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: LLogann on September 24, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
Those are "bugs"

It seems that you know not of what you are speaking, I have flown bombers and not personally witnessed a drone explode due to distance from the primary plane, it has always been due to a collision with another object. If the drones explode when the primary plane is more than 1000 yards away, then it would be impossible for someone to have a drone stuck on the side of a hill while he is miles away, wouldn't it? Yet, you still find them.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: DOUG on September 25, 2010, 03:47:06 PM
great Idea IMo.
It seems that you know not of what you are speaking, I have flown bombers and not personally witnessed a drone explode due to distance from the primary plane, it has always been due to a collision with another object. If the drones explode when the primary plane is more than 1000 yards away, then it would be impossible for someone to have a drone stuck on the side of a hill while he is miles away, wouldn't it? Yet, you still find them.
  heh  has NOthing to do with collisions-drone gets too far away, it blows up=) If you see a drone stuck on a hill, thats different, freaky bug stuff. In flight- its aboot 1000yards then BOOM                 elfy
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: Ghosth on September 25, 2010, 04:54:37 PM
Drone stuck on a hill happened when bomber came in to land. If you drop flaps and gear long the drones will  drop down and get stuck short of the runway sometimes.

And a drone sitting on the ground doesn't explode if the player rearms and goes out again, leaving the drone sitting there like a bit target.
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: FiLtH on September 26, 2010, 12:13:20 AM
 You used to be able to land and take off again, leaving the drones. Then jump in one of the landed bombers guns. Made short work of towns :P
Title: Re: Not a huge request - bomber distance
Post by: DEECONX on September 26, 2010, 09:20:12 AM
+1 here  :aok