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Title: Vulches
Post by: Zygote404 on September 23, 2010, 10:18:41 AM
My wish list for this week is to have vulching planes randomly explode...

Well not quite that, but I think if wheels haven't left the runway you shouldn't get a kill on the plane.  Its still very easy for a vulcher to kill a plane that's just lifted off, since its so slow and has no alt so its not so big a deal for the vulcher but its a big deal for the vulched and might encourage a bit of response to a horde.

Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2010, 10:24:45 AM
Has AH turned into some sub-romper room game?

Whats with the lame whines about HOs, rams and vulching?

All that is missing today is someone filing their Pampers after
being shot down in their chute.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: oakranger on September 23, 2010, 10:25:19 AM
OMG!  Is this whinning day!?

Solution, do not up at a cap field!
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: JHerne on September 23, 2010, 10:33:55 AM
Getting it rammed in your face by someone with no skills is one thing, but if you're dumb enough to up at a capped field, you deserve to be vulched.

Exercise some patience, up from a field that's further away, grab some alt, burn your fuel load down, and use your E. If there's no base within reasonable flying distance grab a Wirble. If the VH is down, sit in the tower and watch the fireworks, or roll a WW in from the spawn.

Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2010, 10:50:17 AM
"but if you're dumb enough to up at a capped field, you deserve to be vulched. "

You pegged the irony meter!  For the same hing applies for ho's an rams.

If your too dumb to avoid or deal with Hos or rams them you deserve to be
ho'd or rammed
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Jayhawk on September 23, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
lol, Keep your argument in your own thread.


Actually nvm, bring it here, the other thread has some good stuff in it, this one is useless.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 23, 2010, 01:06:58 PM
Has AH turned into some sub-romper room game?

Whats with the lame whines about HOs, rams and vulching?

All that is missing today is someone filing their Pampers after
being shot down in their chute.

Think some people got some estrogen slipped into their coffee.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Pigslilspaz on September 23, 2010, 01:10:37 PM
My wish list for this week is to have vulching planes randomly explode...

Well not quite that, but I think if wheels haven't left the runway you shouldn't get a kill on the plane.  Its still very easy for a vulcher to kill a plane that's just lifted off, since its so slow and has no alt so its not so big a deal for the vulcher but its a big deal for the vulched and might encourage a bit of response to a horde.


(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/xlsrules/Rofl.png?t=1285265420)
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: gyrene81 on September 23, 2010, 01:12:33 PM
Think some people got some estrogen slipped into their coffee.

ack-ack
It's believed that women who spend a lot of time together develop the same cycle...perhaps that phenomenon happens here.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: LLogann on September 23, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
How old are you boy?

The same way those "rules" don't apply in real life, with or without the Geneva Convention, they don't apply here. 


Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Zygote404 on September 23, 2010, 10:06:42 PM
Amusing.  Firstly a suggestion is not a whine.  A whine is quite a bit similiar to the posts following my post then to my post.  I'm 37.  AFAIK you didn't get credited with a kill shooting airplanes on the ground.

While I understand the internet lets you behave in ways you won't get away with in real life, it still makes you look like a kinder kid. Try to have a little respect for fellow forum users and perhaps this may be somewhat frightening, but if you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.  Thank you.

:)

Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: RoGenT on September 23, 2010, 10:12:49 PM
Only Bishop and Rooks vulch, we knights call it 'anti-upping field suppression'  :salute
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Jayhawk on September 23, 2010, 10:28:45 PM
Only Bishop and Rooks vulch, we knights call it 'anti-upping field suppression'  :salute

Now if only you could take it out of the theory phase.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Larry on September 23, 2010, 10:32:49 PM
and perhaps this may be somewhat frightening, but if you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.  Thank you.

This is a public forum and anyone is free to express their opinions as long as those opinions are within the rules. You expressed yours so don't get mad when others do the same.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 23, 2010, 10:58:10 PM
I love these threads that whine about vulches and then the whiner tries to through out the "honorable" crap.  Yeah, like pilots didn't vulch in real life.  In the right photo strip shows a FW 190 being "vulched" as it was attempting to land (left strip shows a Me 109 getting its bellybutton shot to Hell).

Beside, vulching is one of the last true art forms and if it pisses of the guy that got vulched, all the better.


(http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/III/img/AAF-III-p232a.jpg)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: bagrat on September 23, 2010, 11:02:23 PM
yes yes +1 to this idea and while we are at it can we have these too!


(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/abcabc_photo/mario-power-ups.jpg)
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Pigslilspaz on September 23, 2010, 11:23:44 PM
Have beaten every one of those games.  :D
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: IrishOne on September 24, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
I love these threads that whine about vulches and then the whiner tries to through out the "honorable" crap.  Yeah, like pilots didn't vulch in real life.  In the right photo strip shows a FW 190 being "vulched" as it was attempting to land (left strip shows a Me 109 getting its bellybutton shot to Hell).

Beside, vulching is one of the last true art forms and if it pisses of the guy that got vulched, all the better.


(http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/III/img/AAF-III-p232a.jpg)


ack-ack

i agree 100% with what you are, except i don't think thats a 109 on the left.  could be wrong
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Zygote404 on September 24, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
Now I didn't say you couldn't shoot planes on the ground.  Just that you shouldn't get a kill on one.  As for the predictable speculation, I havent been vulched recently since a virus put my computer out of commission on the 22nd, and I only just got it working again. 

My position hasn't changed, vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill.  However, having said that, I do understand, for those persons who would find their score being adversely affected in a serious way, from not getting kills on planes that are not actually flying, the apprehension such a change would cause and sincerely hope my suggestion didn't have a serious affect on your ailementary canal.

Actually thats not true, heres hoping it did.

Zygote
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Jayhawk on September 24, 2010, 01:20:15 AM
Here's what would happen, people would either 1) still shoot you on the runway just as a method of field suppression or 2) wait till you just lift your wheels off the ground to shoot.  What's going to change?

The only thing that would change is some people's scores, and you shouldn't worry so much about other people's scores.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Mus51 on September 24, 2010, 01:57:16 AM
See rule #4
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: RoGenT on September 24, 2010, 02:06:07 AM
Now if only you could take it out of the theory phase.


I could, but I like the air of suspense in the room... :noid
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Zygote404 on September 24, 2010, 02:41:21 AM
Here's what would happen, people would either 1) still shoot you on the runway just as a method of field suppression or 2) wait till you just lift your wheels off the ground to shoot.  What's going to change?

The only thing that would change is some people's scores, and you shouldn't worry so much about other people's scores.
Nothing would change.  Thats not the point. 
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: The Grinch on September 24, 2010, 05:42:14 AM
My wish list for this week is to have vulching planes randomly explode...

Well not quite that, but I think if wheels haven't left the runway you shouldn't get a kill on the plane.  Its still very easy for a vulcher to kill a plane that's just lifted off, since its so slow and has no alt so its not so big a deal for the vulcher but its a big deal for the vulched and might encourage a bit of response to a horde.


Nope  :devil
Take off from another close base an do a intercept mission.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Westy on September 24, 2010, 07:39:13 AM
"vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill."

It didn't work that way in real life so why should it be different for this
game?

Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: uptown on September 24, 2010, 07:50:26 AM
Only Bishop and Rooks vulch, we knights call it 'anti-upping field suppression'  :salute
:lol
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Dragunov on September 24, 2010, 08:37:25 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TeJxggJvg7g/TB1ZtX1sCgI/AAAAAAAAEWw/r-Itkd3ItmA/s1600/hurtfeelings.png

Go ahead and fill this out for all of you that cry about HOing and Vulching. HO attacks and Vulching attacks were a key strategy of many forces during WWII. Planes exploding because of strafing a grounded plane? This is realistic? Do your recon in the tower before uping your ride you might not get strafed.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: FLOTSOM on September 24, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
"vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill."

It didn't work that way in real life so why should it be different for this
game?



actually yes they were counted. every item destroyed was credited to the pilot who destroyed the target if possible. it was viewed differently by his fellow pilots obviously, not as much prestige and probably not much glory, but every kill was a kill.

i hate vulching, for the purposes of game play and the fun of the engagement its lame in my opinion. in real life every plane or pilot killed on the ground was one less shooting at you in the sky, so the motivation to kill them on the ground was far different than it is in this game. so comparing this to real life is just simply impossible.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Rino on September 24, 2010, 10:20:45 AM
Amusing.  Firstly a suggestion is not a whine.  A whine is quite a bit similiar to the posts following my post then to my post.  I'm 37.  AFAIK you didn't get credited with a kill shooting airplanes on the ground.

While I understand the internet lets you behave in ways you won't get away with in real life, it still makes you look like a kinder kid. Try to have a little respect for fellow forum users and perhaps this may be somewhat frightening, but if you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.  Thank you.

:)



     Evidently you don't do alot of reading.  The USAAC credited pilots with "vultch" kills during WW2.
In fact, killing something on the ground could be alot more dangerous than air to air.  We lost many
birds to AAA and crashes on these runs.  Gabreski was one of our best fighter pilots with the 56th.
He hit a "hump" while strafing an airfield and was taken prisoner.

     No fun being captured by the guys you were just shooting.  :D
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 24, 2010, 11:43:38 AM
Now I didn't say you couldn't shoot planes on the ground.  Just that you shouldn't get a kill on one.  As for the predictable speculation, I havent been vulched recently since a virus put my computer out of commission on the 22nd, and I only just got it working again. 

Regardless if you blow up the plane in the sky or in the air, a kill is a kill and therefore deserve credit for it.  Did you know that towards the end of the war, USAAF pilots were getting credit for kills on the ground?  I guess not.

Quote
My position hasn't changed, vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill.  However, having said that, I do understand, for those persons who would find their score being adversely affected in a serious way, from not getting kills on planes that are not actually flying, the apprehension such a change would cause and sincerely hope my suggestion didn't have a serious affect on your ailementary canal.

Actually thats not true, heres hoping it did.

Zygote

Yep, that's the only way I can get a kill is to vulch.  Players like me that don't have your vast experten skill need to do what we need to do to get a kill.  Maybe one day I will be as good as you so I don't have to resort to such low brow tactics to keep my score up.  Maybe you would be so kind as to go to the DA with me and teach me so I can learn to get a kill the "legitimate way"?

Oh, I believe the big word you were trying to use is spelled alimentary canal.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: LLogann on September 24, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
Maybe you're new to forums, fellow forum user, but no respect is usually given to the folk that ask for things to make their life easy.  DO NOT up from a capped field.  Period, there is no discussion here.  The game models RL, and in RL, vulching happened.  And in RL we wouldn't have a choice, we'd have to up from that capped field.  Here you already have choices RL doesn't give you!   :cheers:



While I understand the internet lets you behave in ways you won't get away with in real life, it still makes you look like a kinder kid. Try to have a little respect for fellow forum users and perhaps this may be somewhat frightening, but if you don't have anything GOOD to say, don't say anything.  Thank you.

:)



If you don't have anything to say........... Why are you talking?  LOL   :salute
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Vinkman on September 24, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
OMG!  Is this whinning day!?

Solution, do not up at a cap field!

I don't want vulching planes to explode, or any other rule to stop vulching.

But I don't dismiss the complaint so easily, because one of the last maps had so many V bases on it that upping from another field meant flying almost 2 sectors to get back to the fight.  I just logged off instead. So I'm often stuck making the choice between investing the time in long flights back to the action, or trying to up. Don't like either option. This is why folks whine about vulching. It ends combat for the team getting vulched, especially if they "don't up at a capped field."

In a real war, when the enemy has left or quits, you win!!! Hurray!!!
In AH            when the enemy has left or quits, the fun is over and you have to go cut the grass.

Why engage in game play behaviors that end combat, or suggest solutions that end combat?

 :salute
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: AceHavok on September 24, 2010, 01:23:26 PM
Don't up at a caped field. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Imowface on September 24, 2010, 01:30:29 PM
I don't want vulching planes to explode, or any other rule to stop vulching.

But I don't dismiss the complaint so easily, because one of the last maps had so many V bases on it that upping from another field meant flying almost 2 sectors to get back to the fight.  I just logged off instead. So I'm often stuck making the choice between investing the time in long fights back to the action, or trying to up. Don't like either option. This is why folks whine about vulching. It ends combat for the team getting vulched, especially if they "don't up at a capped field."

In a real war, when the enemy has left or quits, you win!!! Hurray!!!
In AH            when the enemy has left or quits, the fun is over and you have to go cut the grass.

Why engage in game play behaviors that end combat, or suggest solutions that end combat?

 :salute

lol long flights back to the action are totaly worth it man, I was in orange last night (late) and I saw a field was capped so I uped a wirb a couple of times, got some good hits on some of the planes no kills though, so then I got bombed by a P47, when to the closest field about a sector and a half away, hopped in my G14 flew over and shot the last three CAP'ers down landed my kills field saved
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Zygote404 on September 25, 2010, 12:45:57 AM
Regardless if you blow up the plane in the sky or in the air, a kill is a kill and therefore deserve credit for it.  Did you know that towards the end of the war, USAAF pilots were getting credit for kills on the ground?  I guess not.

Yep, that's the only way I can get a kill is to vulch.  Players like me that don't have your vast experten skill need to do what we need to do to get a kill.  Maybe one day I will be as good as you so I don't have to resort to such low brow tactics to keep my score up.  Maybe you would be so kind as to go to the DA with me and teach me so I can learn to get a kill the "legitimate way"?

Oh, I believe the big word you were trying to use is spelled alimentary canal.

ack-ack
I believe I have killed your 38 a number of times 1 v 1 already.  Ingame name is Zygote and What.  And USAAF pilots claiming credit for kills on the ground at the end of the war was most likely due to the American desire for prestige rather then a legitimate record of air to air combat skill.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Larry on September 25, 2010, 01:00:33 AM
I believe I have killed your 38 a number of times 1 v 1 already.  Ingame name is Zygote and What.  And USAAF pilots claiming credit for kills on the ground at the end of the war was most likely due to the American desire for prestige rather then a legitimate record of air to air combat skill.

Yawn.
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Imowface on September 25, 2010, 02:29:03 PM
I believe I have killed your 38 a number of times 1 v 1 already.  Ingame name is Zygote and What.  And USAAF pilots claiming credit for kills on the ground at the end of the war was most likely due to the American desire for prestige rather then a legitimate record of air to air combat skill.

How many times, out of ten, do you know what your even talking about? you can be honest, we wont judge you
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: beau32 on September 25, 2010, 03:09:13 PM
I believe I have killed your 38 a number of times 1 v 1 already. 

Film or it didnt happen! 
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: Dichotomy on September 25, 2010, 09:28:10 PM
Don't up at a caped field. Simple as that.

Caped?

:D
Title: Re: Vulches
Post by: gyrene81 on September 25, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
And USAAF pilots claiming credit for kills on the ground at the end of the war was most likely due to the American desire for prestige rather then a legitimate record of air to air combat skill.
You're joking right? Should probably stay awake in history class and ask more questions.