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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Perrine on September 24, 2010, 12:16:13 AM
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I'm not asking for more pre-WWII planes to be added per se, but just in case HTC does surprise us with more pre-war planes with its own arena like WWI...
I'm compiling lists of pre-WW2 planes that entered service before WWII
Pls contribute if I'm missing more planes
Fighter Aircraft
US Army
Boeing P-26
(http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/aircraft-pictures/2008/06/13/Boeing%20P-26A%20line-up%20March%20Fieldlarge.jpg)
Sversky P-35
(http://www.notplanejane.com/images/Hamilton%20Standard/13%20%20Hamilton%20Standard%203E50-65%20%20135%20inch/Republic%20P-35A%20Info_files/Seversky-Navy-P-35-sm.jpg)
Curtis P-36
(http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/photos/p-36hawk.jpg)
US Navy
Grumman F3F
(http://www.cmkkits.com/res/data/049/005618_05_022108.jpg)
Japanese Army
Nakajima Ki-27
(http://johnmc99.com/images/aircraft/japanese/ki27-02.jpg)
Japanese Navy
Mitsubishi A5M
(http://johnmc99.com/images/aircraft/japanese/a5m2201.jpg)
Red Army
Polikarpov I-15
(http://www.aviapress.com/engl/icm/icm72062.jpg)
Polikarpov I-153
(http://russian.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/images/i153-3.jpg)
Polikarpov I-190
(http://www.aviapress.com/engl/amo/amo72112.jpg)
Royal Air Force
Gloster Gladiator
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Gloster_Gladiator.jpg)
Luftwaffe
Bf-109B/C/D
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Zushia/CA%20Bf109D/MesserschmittMe109Volume1page18.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Zushia/CA%20Bf109D/MesserschmittMe109Volume1page19.jpg)
Dutch and Finnish AF
Fokker D.XXI
(http://www.cmkkits.com/res/data/059/007046_05_026448.jpg)
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Gladiator (and maybe the I-15) served in WWII, just saying
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So you want a spanish civil war arena?
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both of those japanese planes served in ww2
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both of those japanese planes served in ww2
But they also saw action against polikarpov biplanes as early as 1937
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I'm kinda liking this idea! :aok
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Both nice planes and a nice list. If this were to happen, most of the planes will be in the MA. As far as I know very little people are in WWI arena. And this could boast the population there.
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I can see having a 37-39 planeset and arena.
That Polikarpov I-190 looked pretty interesting to me!
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So you want a spanish civil war arena?
A lot of the planes listed in the OP flew in WWII, or just prior. Heck, the Finns probably flew with or against half of them.
I would like to see the planes from the late 1930's. Not just the Spanish Civil War era, but the Winter War, Khalkhin Gol, and the Sino-Japanese wars.
In AH terms, these would be hangar queens, unfortunately.
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Definately +50 Epic PASS to this.....
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A lot of the planes listed in the OP flew in WWII, or just prior. Heck, the Finns probably flew with or against half of them.
I would like to see the planes from the late 1930's. Not just the Spanish Civil War era, but the Winter War, Khalkhin Gol, and the Sino-Japanese wars.
In AH terms, these would be hangar queens, unfortunately.
How often do you see I-16s in MA? If we add that whole list to MA people would complain because other people fly late war planes, or would not fly them at all.
I see what your saying, but I don't think it's going to work out in MA. Maybe for special events it will.
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How often do you see I-16s in MA? If we add that whole list to MA people would complain because other people fly late war planes, or would not fly them at all.
I see what your saying, but I don't think it's going to work out in MA. Maybe for special events it will.
my squaddie and i winged in I-16s.... once :noid
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I would like to see the f3f the I-15 and the Gladiator! pre mono-plane fighters FTW! +1 :aok
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How often do you see I-16s in MA? If we add that whole list to MA people would complain because other people fly late war planes, or would not fly them at all.
I see what your saying, but I don't think it's going to work out in MA. Maybe for special events it will.
I agree with you. This is what I meant by predicting that the cool early planes would be hangar queens in the LW MAs.
All planes are cool. Earlier birds tend to be less refined. They were developed, for the most part, along theoretical lines as opposed to combat experience. The Spanish Civil War was used as a proving ground for aerial tactics and strategy.
With regards to the I-16, it is ranked number 4 in my personal 'Kills As' fighter list since Tour 123:
Plane - Kills As
C.205 - 158
Brewster B-239 - 121
Yak-9U - 85
I-16 - 78
Hurricane Mk I - 37
Out of 717 total kills. All Late War.
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what i find hilarious is that the P-26 was called the "peashooter" :lol
+1
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I believe most of the aircraft in your list actually saw combat at some point early in the war. The only ones I can think of off hand that didn't are the Grumman F3F and Seversky P-35. The P-26 was flown by the Philippine AF against the Japanese in the early days of the war. The A5M and Ki-27 were also both used in the early months. The A5m as late as the battle of the coral sea. Good list you have there. :aok
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The Gloster Gladiator was also used by the Finnish Air Force, 45 kills by 22 pilots in 1940.
Fokker D. XXI in Finnish Air Force: 1939-40, 130 kills by 47 pilots. 1941-44, 61 kills by 40 pilots (was used as a recon plane later in the war).
In AH, they'd be useless. Or we'd need a Spanish Civil War Arena.. And after that the much anticipated Soviet-Finnish Winter War Arena. ;)
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In AH, they'd be useless. Or we'd need a Spanish Civil War Arena.. And after that the much anticipated Soviet-Finnish Winter War Arena. ;)
They'd be great for FSOs Scenarios the AVA and SECs plus the much anticipated Soviet-Finnish Winter War Arena. :D
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Nice post, Oak! :aok
OP, interesting planes, but it's not gunna happen. I wouldn't mind a nice Bf 109T, HTC... :)
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One thing to keep in mind is that there are not too many doable aircraft left that will be acceptable to the "It must be capable of dominating the LWA to be a valid addition." crowd. Very soon they will have nothing but post war aircraft to request. Even relatively capable aircraft like the Me410, J2M3, Ki-44 and Pe-2 will be met with whines about how useless they are in the LWA.
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+ :aok
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Karnak makes a very good point. AH is just about to the tipping point where it either has to go off into lala "Prototype, never saw production combat" land, or start filling in the holes in the early and mid war plane sets.
Either way some folks will not be happy.
Me I figure each new plane introduced into AH is a success irregardless of how many kills it can land in the main.
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Karnak makes a very good point. AH is just about to the tipping point where it either has to go off into lala "Prototype, never saw production combat" land, or start filling in the holes in the early and mid war plane sets.
Either way some folks will not be happy.
Me I figure each new plane introduced into AH is a success irregardless of how many kills it can land in the main.
might wanna fix that :lol