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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gixer on September 24, 2010, 07:16:49 AM
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Anyone else losing sleep with this one? Easily the best CIV version yet and I think possibly best PC Strategy Game ever, but still bit early to tell. Changes from pervious CIV versions are all very good, especially change to tiles and not being able to stack units. So no longer can a 10 stack of spearmen take out a Panzer.
Has the same (one more turn) feeling from very first CIV games.
<S>...-Gixer
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I love the Civ Series. The only draw back that has annoyed me a bit (in 3 and 4) was some of the poor AI. And even in early Civ 3 the randomness of battles (see Ironclads sinking your sub or battleship). I'll be picking the game up soon, just hope the AI has picked up with the other tweaks to the gameplay.
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I'm not going to get it for at least another few months...although I'm really wanting to. Prefer to wait until a few patches have been released before I dive in.
The damage system has always been a weak point, especially with the examples you guys posted. I'm curious Fulmar, what are you referring to with weak AI? The automated workers or sending a unit off in explore mode? Those are the only things I can think of that are generally problematic, otherwise I find the rest of the AI system challenging if you're not playing the easy mode level.
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As for AI only thing I've found so far is that AI prefers to try win via domination rather than other methods. But again early days. As for bugs haven't found anything yet game is rock solid. Really enjoying graphics as well. Combat system much approved. Plus special unit for America is B17s :D
<S>...-Gixer
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I like it a lot as well. Definitely has the one more turn feel and I end up seeing it is 1AM and I have to get up in four hours!!! :O
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I have Civ 3 but I have alway prefered the original Civ. So for the last couple of weeks I have been losing sleep on the original Civ. I probably need to load Civ 3 and give it another chance.
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I have Civ 3 but I have alway prefered the original Civ. So for the last couple of weeks I have been losing sleep on the original Civ. I probably need to load Civ 3 and give it another chance.
I have Civ3 gold edition, it's a bit more difficult than it's predecessors but...almost like it better than Civ4.
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I have Civ 3 but I have alway prefered the original Civ. So for the last couple of weeks I have been losing sleep on the original Civ. I probably need to load Civ 3 and give it another chance.
Civ 3 is the weakest of the first four. If you can, grab a cheap copy of Civ 4.
With that said, I probably spent the most time with Civ II.
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I've never played a title from the series. My son and I have enjoyed playing the Age of Empires series and the Stronghold series. Would we be good candidates for the CIV series?
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I've never played a title from the series. My son and I have enjoyed playing the Age of Empires series and the Stronghold series. Would we be good candidates for the CIV series?
Game play is a bit slower due to being turn based, but you also have more time to think about your choices and the game is deeper.
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Still waiting for it in the mail. :frown:
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I ordered it on steam, after playing the demo... from steam. It'll be downloaded in under an hour.
I suppose steam is teh evil... ah well.
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Will take me AAAAGGEES to get from steam, but I bought it.
I liked CIV-3 more than all the others tbh, I liked it more than 4.
But this new one.. looks like the best game IN HISTORY
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I ordered it on steam, after playing the demo... from steam. It'll be downloaded in under an hour.
I suppose steam is teh evil... ah well.
Why is Steam "teh evil"? It is a good service that allows people to publish games that would never see the light of day if they had to pay for the paper and plastic media and shelf space at a brick and mortar store. More competition and more innovation in the market is good.
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Why is Steam "teh evil"? It is a good service that allows people to publish games that would never see the light of day if they had to pay for the paper and plastic media and shelf space at a brick and mortar store. More competition and more innovation in the market is good.
It isnt the idea that could be evil, it is in the potential for rootkits and other invasive DRM infestations from their implementation.
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I have Civ3 gold edition, it's a bit more difficult than it's predecessors but...almost like it better than Civ4.
Before some of the patches (especially in 3), the AI wasn't very bright. And when I'm talking about this, I'm talking war time. I played a more 3 than 4, but I really can't recall many 'games' i played in 4.
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It isnt the idea that could be evil, it is in the potential for rootkits and other invasive DRM infestations from their implementation.
Never had any remote issues close this. I've used Steam since its horrible beginnings. It's come a long way and Steam sales are about the single best thing they offer. I remember buying Left 4 Dead 2 on black friday for like $30, much better than the "pre-order" 10% discount offered 3 weeks prior. I rarely buy games in stores anymore. I think the last one I did was Company of Heroes.
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Civ2 will always be the best. You don't have to have hundreds of dollars worth of equipment or a PhD to mod it into absolutely anything you want.
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Never had any remote issues close this. I've used Steam since its horrible beginnings. It's come a long way and Steam sales are about the single best thing they offer. I remember buying Left 4 Dead 2 on black friday for like $30, much better than the "pre-order" 10% discount offered 3 weeks prior. I rarely buy games in stores anymore. I think the last one I did was Company of Heroes.
Yep. Last Christmas Eve I got the Id Superpack for 23 bucks!
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/440/ (http://store.steampowered.com/sub/440/)
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Just had a CTD that threw me back literally 100 years from 1978 :furious :furious :furious
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I'm trying to hold off on civ 5 for a while......mainly cos for the last year I've been playing a mod for Civ 4 called Rise of Mankind. Which, quite frankly, turns Civ 4 into the bestest game in the history of gaming. Once they've made a start on the same mod for civ 5 I'll convert.....cos after RoM you just can't ever go back to vanilla civ.
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I'm trying to hold off on civ 5 for a while......mainly cos for the last year I've been playing a mod for Civ 4 called Rise of Mankind. Which, quite frankly, turns Civ 4 into the bestest game in the history of gaming. Once they've made a start on the same mod for civ 5 I'll convert.....cos after RoM you just can't ever go back to vanilla civ.
That sounds intriguing Swoop... is it a mod off one of the expansions or straight Civ4?
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Mod for Beyond the Sword expansion.
If you're gonna find it download v2.81, NOT the latest v2.92. 2.81 is stable and well balanced, 2.92 is quite recent, full of bugs and completely unbalanced. People know this, hence why 2.81 is still available for download.
Edit: in fact here ya go: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273373
Click the SHOW older files button just under the latest version links.
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Yes more I've put into it now, easily the best version of CIV yet I enjoyed all the CIVs and probably CIV4 the most, but this is far better. Lots of great gameplay additions that really make this version stand out as an exceptional strategy game. For a vanilla version new release it's excellent, actually quite amazed thought the days of really good PC games without mods were over.
Interface and graphics are leagues ahead of any previous version especially when running maxed out, graphics of other leaders in DX11 are excellent. Nice touch is the interface highlights any unit with a turn remaining. Workers for instance, you can no longer just cover the map in roads and have to think about them stratagically as each tile of road costs 1 gold maintenance.
Diplomacy is much easier to manage and AI far better than I can remember in any previous version.
And again, not being able to stack units and introducing tiles strategically makes any battles a great improvement. Just like playing an old table top war game, you can have pikemen infront of your ranged units and deploy them far more strategically then before.
Anyone who has even the slightest interest in strategy titles especially previous CIV players really need to have a look at this, don't have any pre-conceived notions about how much better any previous CIV2 or CIV4 versions were even with any mod their not. Unless you have some dated PC and stil stuck playing games 10 years old this version is the best.
<S>...-Gixer
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I disagree Gixer.
I relented.....and now wish I hadn't. Civ 5 is.....simplistic compared to a RoM modded civ 4, I look at the tech tree in 5, sigh and try to remind myself it's not finished yet.
Sure the graphics are nice but flashy graphics was never what civ was about. 5 reminds me more of a console based RTS game that's been made into a turn based game. And the non stackable armies are annoying the **** out of me, it simply means that when you attack someone the unit you attack with is gonna die next turn from the counter attack and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
I may well be shelving 5 until after an expansion or two and RoM makes it's appearance.
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Found Sid Meierīs Civilization (1995 DOS version) free on Abandonia: http://www.abandonia.com/ (http://www.abandonia.com/)
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Anyone who has even the slightest interest in strategy titles especially previous CIV players really need to have a look at this, don't have any pre-conceived notions about how much better any previous CIV2 or CIV4 versions were even with any mod their not. Unless you have some dated PC and stil stuck playing games 10 years old this version is the best.
I'd be willing to bet the vanilla version is the best, but if it takes a rocket scientist to mod it, you're always going to be stuck with the vanilla version.
With Civ2 you've got a game that covers every period in history, sci fi, and fantasy down to often minute details. If you don't like one scenario, you've got thousands more to try, with many still being constructed.
Civ2's simplicity is what makes it awesome. And once you've designed a few scenarios, you come to appreciate the little tricks designers are still coming up with to change it ever more with each scenario released.
It's not "dated" by any means.
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I had them all from CIV I to IV, but the only one that I'm still playing is CIV II.
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Mod for Beyond the Sword expansion.
If you're gonna find it download v2.81, NOT the latest v2.92. 2.81 is stable and well balanced, 2.92 is quite recent, full of bugs and completely unbalanced. People know this, hence why 2.81 is still available for download.
Edit: in fact here ya go: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=273373
Click the SHOW older files button just under the latest version links.
Dang, I got 2.92 before you mentioned it. Got a lockup around 1087A.D.
Is it 2.81 or 2.91 that I want?
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Dang, I got 2.92 before you mentioned it. Got a lockup around 1087A.D.
Is it 2.81 or 2.91 that I want?
2.81
In 2.9x ranged bombardment doesn't work properly, warlord units are incorrectly flagged as pirates (so you can't keep em safe cos even friendly AI units will attack them in your territory) and the guilds system is daft.