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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Avanti on September 30, 2010, 04:20:56 AM
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Laidies and Gentlemen I Give you the,
CAC Boomerang
she has a top speed of 300mph
Climb rate of 2,700 fpm
has good manoeuvrability
round about 925 miles off a full tank
and looks like the result of a threesome between a Brewster, Spitfire and Corsair
and oh yes..... she comes with cannons
Sources
http://www.airforce.gov.au/raafmuseum/exhibitions/hangar180/boomerang.htm
http://www.aviationtrivia.info/CAC-Boomerang.php
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/flight-test-data/boomerang-performance-thread-8957.html
(http://www.geog.utas.edu.au/hpf/images/elec_scale/AWESOME%20RC%20CAC%20BOOMERANG.jpg)
But on a serious note this would be a good addition to the game and a good mid war aircraft, yes it did fly in squadron force
and we have NO Australian invented, made and built aircraft in the game
:salute
Avanti
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Yeah I have seen the Boomerang. Neat little plane.+1 for Aussie's.
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If votes counted, that would get mine. :aok
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A big +1 for the Boomerang!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_k_0tVV1FpVU/TEUtcsru4MI/AAAAAAAABHM/1RZTtVFQ6js/s1600/Boomerang.jpg)
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She is a Brewster that turns tighter with Cannons.
If this was any other aircraft I would go NOOOOOO.
Buuut..... +1 MILLION!! :aok :aok
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Looks a little like the P-47. +1 Diversity in AC/country on AH!
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This is the one hizooka-equipped fighter I'd like to fly. Die Brewstard, DIE! :devil
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This is the one hizooka-equipped fighter I'd like to fly. Die Brewstard, DIE! :devil
i should start filming my A6m flying time in some good furballs that include brewbrews :t
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+1
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its kinda cute.
+1
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(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/boomerang-1.png)
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Not a bad aircraft, I'm sure HTC would love to add this to their game.
But these things are not easy to build (graphical wise), takes time and the more you wish the more (mg) that builds up along with it, if added (Which is why smart choices are added only).
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Not a bad aircraft, I'm sure HTC would love to add this to their game.
But these things are not easy to build (graphical wise), takes time and the more you wish the more (mg) that builds up along with it, if added (Which is why smart choices are added only).
'cuz you'd totally know, bein' here since April and all.
Jus'sayin.
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'cuz you'd totally know, bein' here since April and all.
Jus'sayin.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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This would be my main ride if added. :rock :aok :cheers:
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+1 for the boomerang
and add the Hudson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ94HmygSA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccZ94HmygSA&feature=related)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Lockheed_Hudson_ExCC.jpg)
* Crew: 6
* Length: 44 ft 4 in (13.51 m)
* Wingspan: 65 ft 6 in (19.96 m)
* Height: 11 ft 10 in (3.62 m)
* Wing area: 551 ft² (51.2 m²)
* Empty weight: 12,000 lb (5,400 kg)
* Loaded weight: 17,500 lb (7,930 kg)
* Max takeoff weight: 18,500 lb (8,390 kg)
* Powerplant: 2× Wright Cyclone 9-cylinder radial engines, 1,100 hp (820 kW) each
Performance
* Maximum speed: 218 kt (246 mph, 397 km/h)
* Range: 1,700 nm (1,960 mi, 3,150 km)
* Service ceiling: 24,500 ft (7,470 m)
* Rate of climb: 1,200 ft/min (6.2 m/s)
Armament
* Guns:
o 2 × .303 in (7.7 mm) Browning machine guns in dorsal turret
o 2× .303 Browning machine guns in nose
* Bombs: 750 lb (340 kg) of bombs or depth charges
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I am shocked that AKAK has not come in here spouting racist and profane comments yet.
But on topic, The Boomerang saw plenty of combat and flew in squadron strength, last check counted about 120 Boomerangs in service during WW2 flying close support. They hit hard, fight hard... and play hard :devil
the only beef I have is that it is slow, but with Hurricanes, Zekes and Brewsters, who is complaining.
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+1 for both Boomer and Hudson. Now where's my A-26 :)
<S> Oz
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cool plane, +1
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+1 :banana: :banana: :banana: :cheers:
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+ :aok
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I am shocked that AKAK has not come in here spouting racist and profane comments yet.
Why am I not shocked that you yet again are humping my ankle?
ack-ack
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Laidies and Gentlemen I Give you the,
CAC Boomerang
Avanti
The cool thing about the Boomerang is that it will always return you back to base. Always thought it would be a nice addition to the mid-war plane set and probably would see a lot of use for base defense.
ack-ack
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This would be my main ride if added. :rock :aok :cheers:
same :rock
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+1
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+1
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'cuz you'd totally know, bein' here since April and all.
Jus'sayin.
There was no need for that. We're all adults here....well almost all of us. :neener:
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There was no need for that. We're all adults here....well almost all of us. :neener:
I am almost an adult.... but will I grow up (am speaking in actions, not demeanour and language)... nope :x
Party hard, Play harder
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Ok now I am going to make a contribution, although some may call it a plea.
PLEASE!!!!!!!! HITECH PLEASE!!!!!
I CAN GIVE YOU FILM OF PERFORMANCE AND EVIDENCE OF COMBAT AND EVERYTHING JUST PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok now I am going to make a contribution, although some may call it a plea.
PLEASE!!!!!!!! HITECH PLEASE!!!!!
I CAN GIVE YOU FILM OF PERFORMANCE AND EVIDENCE OF COMBAT AND EVERYTHING JUST PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should all be there
Sources
http://www.airforce.gov.au/raafmuseum/exhibitions/hangar180/boomerang.htm
http://www.aviationtrivia.info/CAC-Boomerang.php
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/flight-test-data/boomerang-performance-thread-8957.html
what do you need HTC to make this? information wise
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Just bumping this wish :)
It was and still is a great aircraft and we could really do with this craft in game
It would do great in the MA and would open up opportunities for FSO
So after the B29 can we please have this :)
Avanti
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(http://avartaustralia.org.au/galleries/best/image03.jpg)
i think it would be a great addition as well +2 :aok
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'cuz you'd totally know, bein' here since April and all.
Jus'sayin.
the date of signing up for the forums =/= date they started playing the game.
i started playing 5 yrs ago back in early 2005. but i just recently decided to sign up to use the forums.
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(http://avartaustralia.org.au/galleries/best/image03.jpg)
i think it would be a great addition as well +2 :aok
it looks like an f4f's fat cousin.
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it looks like an f4f's fat cousin.
But like all fat cousins the stronger and better :rock :devil :bolt:
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it looks like an f4f's fat cousin.
honestly i think it looks like "the better half" of the Wildcat. sleeker, smoother, more stunning to look at :lol
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MH-R is still flying
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So... You want a plane so inadequate they couldn't even get a single kill?
So inadequate that it was relegated to carrying 50lb smoke bombs to mark ground targets for OTHER (US-made) planes to bomb?
It's a glorrified infantry strafer.
Even the Aussie test pilot (and ace) said the name was a misnomer, because anybody going into combat with one would NOT be returning home.
Click me (http://books.google.com/books?id=5iQ00r2733YC&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=Clive+Caldwell+boomerang&source=bl&ots=97ImbpXqQA&sig=rpgH8l0fTVP6BmkZ9eMaGIPfdYE&hl=en&ei=C8QTTYKnJMOC8gac5qiTCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false)
2 of the 3 squadrons were homeland defense (no action), and one was tasked to one of the islands. They were able to drive off the Japanese craft, but due to their speed were never able to actually engage the enemy.
With nothing else they COULD do the majority of their war participation was strafing ground units to aid friendly army forces.
Hardly really worth it. I'm all for patriotism and the like, but as far as WW2 and this game goes, the Boomerang is a non-entity.
Between 1942 and 1945 only 240 or so were made. Most of these were probably trainers, because in 1943 the many US made models filled the role of "Fighter" for the Aussie Air Force.
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(http://avartaustralia.org.au/galleries/best/image03.jpg)
i think it would be a great addition as well +2 :aok
the HOR on the side pretty much sums up what the pilots of this plane would become in-game.
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And you wanted a Betty?, a B5N? a Brewster? (which is so overmodeled)
there are a lot of "useless" fighters in this game. But the aircraft in WW2 did not HAVE to fight, all the Zeroes and such would be making slashing attacks. The boomerang was never exposed to the Brewster or the Hurricane in combat, and didnt operate of carriers or anything so it didnt encounter Val's or Betty's.
But if modeled in AH it WOULD. and I think it would be a FUN fighter. Besides the patriotism factor makes it famous in itself. It is the only Aussie designed, built and flown combat aircraft in history. And as a good chunk of the player base, either this or the Beau fighter would be a great addition.
There are many aircraft and GVs in AH2 that did not have a significant hit in WW2, and some I dont think the P-39 (I know it scored a few but was mainly a ground pounder), nor the Brewster scored many kills in WW2. Yet we have them, the Brewster because it was significant in a HISTORICAL respect, and its model was a surprise to many when it was added.
So ADD THE BOOMERANG
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And you wanted a Betty?, a B5N? a Brewster? (which is so overmodeled)
there are a lot of "useless" fighters in this game. But the aircraft in WW2 did not HAVE to fight, all the Zeroes and such would be making slashing attacks. The boomerang was never exposed to the Brewster or the Hurricane in combat, and didnt operate of carriers or anything so it didnt encounter Val's or Betty's.
But if modeled in AH it WOULD. and I think it would be a FUN fighter. Besides the patriotism factor makes it famous in itself. It is the only Aussie designed, built and flown combat aircraft in history. And as a good chunk of the player base, either this or the Beau fighter would be a great addition.
it could possably be put in, but its deff not a priority. it has no scenario missions to it (like the betty,b5n) and i dont think it has any actual kills to its record(like the brew does). sure it would be FUN to fly in the da or furballing where you and me like to hang out pac, but what good would it be in the MA? gotta face it buddy, in this game the MA's come before everything else. and can you imagine what would happen if it WAS put in? all the brewster pilots would switch to this. you'd just be giving them a new brewster with cannons to HO more effectively.
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You do realize that, while Aussie built, it was based on the US trainer "Harvard" design?
That's why the development timing was so speedy... The design was proven by US builders years back. Only real difference was it had guns and a gunsight. Harvard didn't. Other than that, slightly redesigned fuselage, but overall its lineage is plain to see.
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Wrong it wasn't.
It was designed to use the Jigs of construction for the harvard while also utilizing other surplus equipment the Aussies had.
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Wrong it wasn't.
It was designed to use the Jigs of construction for the harvard while also utilizing other surplus equipment the Aussies had.
Yes, parts from the CAC Whiraway... which was an Aussie clone of the Na-16.
P.S. Using the jigs for a Harvard to build a plane gets you.... wait for it!.... a Harvard!
You can't really use the jigs from a P-51 wing to make a wing for a P-47, if you see what I mean?
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Yes, parts from the CAC Whiraway... which was an Aussie clone of the Na-16.
P.S. Using the jigs for a Harvard to build a plane gets you.... wait for it!.... a Harvard!
You can't really use the jigs from a P-51 wing to make a wing for a P-47, if you see what I mean?
he's pretty much saying if it looks like a duck, and quaks like a duck...
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+1 :aok
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+ Eleventy Trillion. ZOMFGLOLZ!
This will get flown and will likely do pretty well. To say that Boomerangs will HO everybody is silly; the thing looks like it will outturn a frisbee. No need to HO when you can line up a nice tracking shot. All the aircraft in this game have HO-ed me at one time or another (even a Ju-88 :lol), but it usually isn't the turny birds doing it. N1K and Hurri IIC excepted of course.
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And you wanted a Betty?, a B5N? a Brewster? (which is so overmodeled)
there are a lot of "useless" fighters in this game. But the aircraft in WW2 did not HAVE to fight, all the Zeroes and such would be making slashing attacks. The boomerang was never exposed to the Brewster or the Hurricane in combat, and didnt operate of carriers or anything so it didnt encounter Val's or Betty's.
But if modeled in AH it WOULD. and I think it would be a FUN fighter. Besides the patriotism factor makes it famous in itself. It is the only Aussie designed, built and flown combat aircraft in history. And as a good chunk of the player base, either this or the Beau fighter would be a great addition.
There are many aircraft and GVs in AH2 that did not have a significant hit in WW2, and some I dont think the P-39 (I know it scored a few but was mainly a ground pounder), nor the Brewster scored many kills in WW2. Yet we have them, the Brewster because it was significant in a HISTORICAL respect, and its model was a surprise to many when it was added.
So ADD THE BOOMERANG
It would be fun :) that's why i'm asking for it
and FYI I didn't wish for any of those
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DESCRIPTION: Single-seat interceptor and ground attack fighter. Metal and wood construction.
POWER PLANT: One 1,200 hp CAC licence built Pratt and Whitney Twin Wasp R1830.
DIMENSIONS: Span, 36 ft; length, 26 ft 9 ins; height, 9 ft. 7 ins.
WEIGHTS: Empty, 5,373 lb; loaded 7,699 lb.
PERFORMANCE: Max speed, 305 mph at 15,000 ft. Initial rate of climb, 2,940 ft/min. Service ceiling 29,000 ft.
ARMAMENT: Two 20 mm Hispano or CAC manufactured cannons. Four 0.303 Browning machine-guns. Bombs could be substituted when the large drop tank was not carried.
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-air-support/ww2-allied/boomerang.htm :old:
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+1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCJV6Lahv4&feature=related
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All the aircraft in this game have HO-ed me at one time or another (even a Ju-88 :lol).
were you in a 262, if so I think it was me. lol
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It would be fun :) that's why i'm asking for it
and FYI I didn't wish for any of those
Was talking to Krusty Av, you and I think AND see Eye to Eye remember :rock
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There are Scenarios to it!! New Guinea is the main one, andhow about one called "Defence of Australia" with Boomerangs and P-40's, and how about one group of them flying out of Port Moresby to the battle of Coral Sea. the list is endless!!
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There are Scenarios to it!! New Guinea is the main one, andhow about one called "Defence of Australia" with Boomerangs and P-40's, and how about one group of them flying out of Port Moresby to the battle of Coral Sea. the list is endless!!
did they actually ENGAGE enemy forces at the coral sea? did any boomerang squadren have a respectable amount of confirmed kills?
i dont mean to kill your plane request pac, im trying to push for the focke helicopter to be put in (lol) but im just being realistic. it wouldnt be fun to have a scenario where they fly out to the coral sea, but dont get any action
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I see this little guy being a good base defender and it would be the only plane in the game dropping smoke. Most importantly, it adds another country's plane.
"No. 4 Squadron and No. 5 Squadron flew Boomerangs in New Guinea, the Solomon Islands and Borneo in the close support role with marked success. Tasks included bombing, strafing, close infantry support and artillery spotting. When attacking larger enemy formations Boomerangs often operated in conjunction with heavier aircraft. In this role the Boomerang would get in close to confirm the identity of the target and mark it with a 20 lb (9 kg) smoke bomb with the heavier aircraft delivering the major ordnance from a safer distance. The partnership between 4 and 5 Squadron Boomerangs and RNZAF Corsair fighter-bombers was said to be particularly effective."
"With good range, heavy armament, and excellent low-level handling characteristics, the aircraft could avoid ground fire in even rough terrain and still inflict heavy damage. The extensive armour plating protected the pilot, the aircraft\'s simple wood and aluminum airframe capable of absorbing a great deal of battle damage, the ability to drop target-marking smoke bombs for other attack forces, plus two cannons and four machine guns, made for a very effective low-level combat aircraft. Flying in pairs, Boomerang tasks included bombing, strafing, close infantry support and artillery spotting "
Look at it this way!
Country Population<Mil> World Rank Builder Plane
Australia 21.9 65 Australia CAC Boomerang <249 built>
Romania 21.4 73 Romania IAR 80/81
France 61.8 28 France D.520 MS-406 MB.150
Czechoslovakia Czechoslovakia Avia B.135
Finland 5.1 120 USA Finnish Brewster <44? recieved>
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were you in a 262, if so I think it was me. lol
It was a 110C. I'm guessing you had similar success in your attack. ;)
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WHOA! +1
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There are many aircraft and GVs in AH2 that did not have a significant hit in WW2, and some I dont think the P-39 (I know it scored a few but was mainly a ground pounder), nor the Brewster scored many kills in WW2. Yet we have them, the Brewster because it was significant in a HISTORICAL respect, and its model was a surprise to many when it was added.
:huh :huh :huh :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:
I love ya Pacman, but what???
Look at what the Russians did with the P-39 and the Finns with the Brewster......... :huh
That being said,
So ADD THE BOOMERANG
I agree X eleventy billion!
This is a game. Almost NONE of the aircraft in this game are used in the same manner that they were historically the majority of the time. If it saw combat in any capacity and flew in squadron strength it deserves consideration under the guidelines.
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We have..
the Brewster B-239 - a model that only saw about 44 delivered and scored fairly little. The P-39, which was rejected by most as a dogfighter (though some pilots scored many successes). The I-16, useless cannon fodder completely outclassed by the 109's, P51s and Spits we see in MA. We have the Wirble and TA-152s, of which both only saw ridiculously small service and production. I dont think the TA-152 scored a kill. And the Spit 16 one of the most used AC in AH2, got about 5 or 6 kills before the end of ww2.
Sooooo. an aircraft that was built in the range of 240 airframes, with cannon and MG, and is the only fighter aircraft solely built and designed in that country, WHICH made a significant contribution in the Pacific war and has been requested by players for a long duration. And a significant chunk of the playerbase hails from the country in question. And remains in a unique spot in history. Is not to be added?
I think it needs to be added soon. The Beaufighter was outvoted by the ME-410, and yet its been requested so many more times than the 410. It seems a bit injust that we have sooooo many planes from so many nations, even Finland, Romania and Italy, which had just a big an impact as Australia have their aircraft in game.
We want ours too!
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We have..
the Brewster B-239 - a model that only saw about 44 delivered and scored fairly little. The P-39, which was rejected by most as a dogfighter (though some pilots scored many successes). The I-16, useless cannon fodder completely outclassed by the 109's, P51s and Spits we see in MA. We have the Wirble and TA-152s, of which both only saw ridiculously small service and production. I dont think the TA-152 scored a kill. And the Spit 16 one of the most used AC in AH2, got about 5 or 6 kills before the end of ww2.
Sooooo. an aircraft that was built in the range of 240 airframes, with cannon and MG, and is the only fighter aircraft solely built and designed in that country, WHICH made a significant contribution in the Pacific war and has been requested by players for a long duration. And a significant chunk of the playerbase hails from the country in question. And remains in a unique spot in history. Is not to be added?
I think it needs to be added soon. The Beaufighter was outvoted by the ME-410, and yet its been requested so many more times than the 410. It seems a bit injust that we have sooooo many planes from so many nations, even Finland, Romania and Italy, which had just a big an impact as Australia have their aircraft in game.
We want ours too!
can you provide actual proof that it scored more than 1 kill? just showing up to a battle doesnt give it a right to be added.
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We have..
the Brewster B-239 - a model that only saw about 44 delivered and scored fairly little. The P-39, which was rejected by most as a dogfighter (though some pilots scored many successes). The I-16, useless cannon fodder completely outclassed by the 109's, P51s and Spits we see in MA. We have the Wirble and TA-152s, of which both only saw ridiculously small service and production. I dont think the TA-152 scored a kill. And the Spit 16 one of the most used AC in AH2, got about 5 or 6 kills before the end of ww2.
Sooooo. an aircraft that was built in the range of 240 airframes, with cannon and MG, and is the only fighter aircraft solely built and designed in that country, WHICH made a significant contribution in the Pacific war and has been requested by players for a long duration. And a significant chunk of the playerbase hails from the country in question. And remains in a unique spot in history. Is not to be added?
I think it needs to be added soon. The Beaufighter was outvoted by the ME-410, and yet its been requested so many more times than the 410. It seems a bit injust that we have sooooo many planes from so many nations, even Finland, Romania and Italy, which had just a big an impact as Australia have their aircraft in game.
We want ours too!
For what it's worth, the 16 got many more kills then 5 or 6. The surviving 16 at Manston has 3 to it's credit and there were a lot more 16s then just that one :)
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We have..
the Brewster B-239 - a model that only saw about 44 delivered and scored fairly little. The P-39, which was rejected by most as a dogfighter (though some pilots scored many successes). The I-16, useless cannon fodder completely outclassed by the 109's, P51s and Spits we see in MA. We have the Wirble and TA-152s, of which both only saw ridiculously small service and production. I dont think the TA-152 scored a kill. And the Spit 16 one of the most used AC in AH2, got about 5 or 6 kills before the end of ww2.
Sooooo. an aircraft that was built in the range of 240 airframes, with cannon and MG, and is the only fighter aircraft solely built and designed in that country, WHICH made a significant contribution in the Pacific war and has been requested by players for a long duration. And a significant chunk of the playerbase hails from the country in question. And remains in a unique spot in history. Is not to be added?
I think it needs to be added soon. The Beaufighter was outvoted by the ME-410, and yet its been requested so many more times than the 410. It seems a bit injust that we have sooooo many planes from so many nations, even Finland, Romania and Italy, which had just a big an impact as Australia have their aircraft in game.
We want ours too!
Well said +1
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We have..
the Brewster B-239 - a model that only saw about 44 delivered and scored fairly little. The P-39, which was rejected by most as a dogfighter (though some pilots scored many successes). The I-16, useless cannon fodder completely outclassed by the 109's, P51s and Spits we see in MA. We have the Wirble and TA-152s, of which both only saw ridiculously small service and production. I dont think the TA-152 scored a kill. And the Spit 16 one of the most used AC in AH2, got about 5 or 6 kills before the end of ww2.
Sooooo. an aircraft that was built in the range of 240 airframes, with cannon and MG, and is the only fighter aircraft solely built and designed in that country, WHICH made a significant contribution in the Pacific war and has been requested by players for a long duration. And a significant chunk of the playerbase hails from the country in question. And remains in a unique spot in history. Is not to be added?
I think it needs to be added soon. The Beaufighter was outvoted by the ME-410, and yet its been requested so many more times than the 410. It seems a bit injust that we have sooooo many planes from so many nations, even Finland, Romania and Italy, which had just a big an impact as Australia have their aircraft in game.
We want ours too!
What he said
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can you provide actual proof that it scored more than 1 kill? just showing up to a battle doesnt give it a right to be added.
No it never scored an air to air kill. That aside with it's ground attack record & the rules for inclusion to AHII it meets all of the requirements.
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It is the only Aussie designed, built and flown combat aircraft in history. And as a good chunk of the player base, either this or the Beau fighter would be a great addition.
Not quite correct on this one.
Also this aircraft did have air to air kills.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_Wirraway
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We have..
the Brewster B-239 - a model that only saw about 44 delivered and scored fairly little.
Brewster B-239, a de-navalized F2A-1, 44 of which were sent to Finland but virtually the same airframe as the B-139, B-339, and B-339-23 for all other exports, and F2A-1, F2A-2, and F2A-3 for US service. Total airframes built 509.
With respect to service and combat, the 44 Finnish B-239's are credited with downing 477 Russian aircraft with losses of just 19 Brewsters, a remarkable ratio of 26:1. Brewster B-239E airframe number BW-364, flown by several pilots, was credited with 42.5 kills, more than any other single airplane in the history of air warfare.[/quote]
The P-39, which was rejected by most as a dogfighter (though some pilots scored many successes).
Just as the P-40 was rejected as a dogfighter by nearly every country that used it with the exception of a handful of pilots who used it with relative effectiveness.
P-39's were used with great success in dogfighting roles by Soviet pilots. Aleksandr Pokryshkin was the third highest scoring allied ace of the war and accumulated almost all of his 53 air-to-air victories in P-39s, fighting primarily against Me-109's and FW-190's. Incidentally, the highest kill totals by any pilots ever to fly any US built aircraft in any theater of combat in the history of aerial warfare? Russian pilots flying P-39's.....
Sooooo. an aircraft that was built in the range of 240 airframes, with cannon and MG, and is the only fighter aircraft solely built and designed in that country, WHICH made a significant contribution in the Pacific war and has been requested by players for a long duration. And a significant chunk of the playerbase hails from the country in question. And remains in a unique spot in history. Is not to be added?
I still say add it, tho! :aok
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No it never scored an air to air kill. That aside with it's ground attack record & the rules for inclusion to AHII it meets all of the requirements.
Purely navigational hazard. :D