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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: captain1ma on October 01, 2010, 07:11:52 AM
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Ok heres my proposal for Tuesday Night if you guys are up for it!
Settings to consider for this battle:
***friendly's at D300
***killshooter OFF
***turn ack up for this event? <edit>
it will be all about knowing or identifying the bad guys! yes i know check 6's are more difficult, but thats the fun of it!
also it will make BNZ more difficult!
Battle of the bridges:
V9 and V13 ---winner is the guy that captures the other base!
base support
V9 will have A21 for air support and A3 for gv support(planes will be disabled at that base)
V13 will have V14 for gv support and A4 for air support.
all bases not in this setup will have planes and GV's disabled to make sure it stays fair. this means ill have to reset the arena a couple of times, once beforehand, once later.
Vbase has to be taken by Gv troops. no air drops. c47 will be removed or troops(in the c47) will be disabled for resupplying. (ill have to see what the setup will let me do)
bombers will only be able to bomb target base, and area gv's. supporting bases will be off limits.
channel 200 will be off limits for the duration of the event except for salutes! violators will be muted. you will be able to PM me if you have a problem but no conversations on 200, they usually lead to something we don't want.
The Battle Area: 9 and 13 will be the battle area. you can blow up bridges, blow up GV's and dog fight. you may bomb the crap out of the town and vehicles in it. the support bases are off limits to both sides. this means you can wipe out the target base, but you cant touch any other bases. this way the target bases will still be defendable.
aircraft and vehicles:
USAAF (Bishops)
P-38J
P-47D11
P-47D25
P-51B
B-17
B-24
C-47
GVs
Jeep
The Ms
M4A3 (75mm)
Luftwaffe (Knights)
FW-190A8
BF-109G6
BF-109G14
BF-110G
Ju-88
C-47
GVs
Jeep
Panzer IV
SdKfz 251
Ostwind
Wirbelwind
ARENA SETTINGS:
Bombsight: AvA standard (try it, it's fun)
Killshooter: ***OFF***
Visibility: 14.0 miles
Fuel burn rate: 1.0
Ack settings: .25
Base capture: 10 (map room .0015)
Radar (1943):
Sector 316,800
Tower 132,000
Icons: Enemy off, Friendly short(D300)
ok boys and girls, thats my proposal, what say you? feel freel to leave comments, questions, and complaints!
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sounds good I'll be there :aok
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i wish this were a saturday setup///////// :cry
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Im in. I say leave 200. We had some good clean fun conversation last time.
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Im in. I say leave 200. We had some good clean fun conversation last time.
i think i agree with this..........since you're gonna be monitoring it anyway......if ya see any crap......1 warning, the boot em. or mute em.
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Looks neat. I missed the Pig roast due to real life responsibilities, gonna try to get in more often now.
<S> Melvin
P.S. Can we get the ack turned up please? The vulching is getting out of hand.
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Settings to consider for this battle:
***friendly's at D300
***killshooter OFF
What exactly does “killshooter OFF” mean. I know that ‘ON’ means I take damage when my bullets hit a friendly. Does ‘OFF’ mean that the friendly will take damage? If so, this could lead to griefing. Combined with the extremely short friendly icon range, it will be messy. Will a friendly get a “Your buddy shot you down” message? Can kills of friendlies be landed?
***turn ack up for this event? <edit>
Keep ack low. I was still getting hit as I searched for the ord through one of USRanger’s sandstorms.
bombers will only be able to bomb target base, and area gv's. supporting bases will be off limits.
I am not sure about this one. If the bases are large, and both can be used to up planes, this might not be necessary. If it is an ROE as opposed to a setting, then some folks might do it, anyway.
aircraft and vehicles:
Good balance with the aircraft. Germans have better AAA gvs. Not much that can be done about that.
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Go for it Cap! :aok
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What exactly does “killshooter OFF” mean. I know that ‘ON’ means I take damage when my bullets hit a friendly. Does ‘OFF’ mean that the friendly will take damage? If so, this could lead to griefing. Combined with the extremely short friendly icon range, it will be messy. Will a friendly get a “Your buddy shot you down” message? Can kills of friendlies be landed?
Yeah, killshooter off means watch your fire if there is a question about a friendly being in front of you. Guess I'm going to have to be more mindful of my pursuit speed when trying to cover someone who is actively engaged in a fight.
Personally, friendly icon range should be no less than D600, the proposed setting is below the combat effective range of D400 (assuming a 22inch monitor with maxed graphics settings and stock gun sight). I'm just as much of a fan of pushing the limits as everyone else but, we cannot forget the realities of the environment in that quest. Pushing the limits too far for a handful who have found some enthusiasm is going to leave out some of the old regulars who may not have the visual capabilities needed to appreciate those limits.
Keep ack low. I was still getting hit as I searched for the ord through one of USRanger’s sandstorms.
I disagree for the exact reason Melvin gave. I know, vulching can be a problem at any time but with the field ack up it will minimize things and there are very few in the AvA who are ack huggers.
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Sounds fine to me...just wish i had a bigger monitor so i could tell what a plane was further than about 400 away :cheers:
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Yeah, killshooter off means watch your fire if there is a question about a friendly being in front of you. Guess I'm going to have to be more mindful of my pursuit speed when trying to cover someone who is actively engaged in a fight.
Personally, friendly icon range should be no less than D600, the proposed setting is below the combat effective range of D400 (assuming a 22inch monitor with maxed graphics settings and stock gun sight). I'm just as much of a fan of pushing the limits as everyone else but, we cannot forget the realities of the environment in that quest. Pushing the limits too far for a handful who have found some enthusiasm is going to leave out some of the old regulars who may not have the visual capabilities needed to appreciate those limits.
I disagree for the exact reason Melvin gave. I know, vulching can be a problem at any time but with the field ack up it will minimize things and there are very few in the AvA who are ack huggers.
i don't think i've ever seen anyone in the ava run for ack.....even when i felt they should have.....myself included. it's part of what i like about it in here.
i think this arena is ruining the rest of the game for me.....and i mean that in a good way. :aok
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Sounds fine to me...just wish i had a bigger monitor so i could tell what a plane was further than about 400 away :cheers:
i'm very close to moving my 40" tv over to my computer, and using that for a monitor. :devil
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these settings will only be in place during the Event. These are not permanent settings, please realize this.
kill shooter off means you can kill your squaddies or people on the same side as you.
friendly settings-- the idea is to force you to know your enemy, thats all. its just a different twist. if everyone is against it, we dont have to do it. but i saw alot of feedback that was looking for that sort of setup.
we can compromise the ack and turn it up, just a bit, to .5 instead of .25 and that should work for everyone. most ack can't catch a FW190 doing 325+.
200 yes ill be monitoring, but i don't want to babysit either, id like to participate. watching whats said on 200 limits my involvement. the last time i spent most of my time in the tower.
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hey Cap ya mean like this?
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I did notice when I logged on last night my airfield was being strafed. Meh *shrug*. I hope it doesn't become prevalent here. A personal rule of thumb I use is stay outside of the 'ack ring' around the friendly field if I can and the same for the enemy field. In the organized events of course these 'rules of thumb' go right out the window. :)
Captain I'd rather you be able to fly and enjoy yourself. KS on is groovy with me as is the channel set up
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Looks neat. I missed the Pig roast due to real life responsibilities, gonna try to get in more often now.
<S> Melvin
P.S. Can we get the ack turned up please? The vulching is getting out of hand.
Oh, there was more than Pigs getting roasted. You missed a fun one Melvin. Hope to run into you on the next go round!
:salute
Way
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these settings will only be in place during the Event. These are not permanent settings, please realize this.
kill shooter off means you can kill your squaddies or people on the same side as you.
friendly settings-- the idea is to force you to know your enemy, thats all. its just a different twist. if everyone is against it, we dont have to do it. but i saw alot of feedback that was looking for that sort of setup.
we can compromise the ack and turn it up, just a bit, to .5 instead of .25 and that should work for everyone. most ack can't catch a FW190 doing 325+.
200 yes ill be monitoring, but i don't want to babysit either, id like to participate. watching whats said on 200 limits my involvement. the last time i spent most of my time in the tower.
you're the one workin your bellybutton off to do this........keep 200 as you said then........this way, you can be in on the action too.
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I vote for MA level for ack. I think ack should always be at MA levels. Vulching can really sour the mood in the arena. There should be some risk from ack for vulching. Although I do it infrequently, I never have a problem dive bombing a field in the MA with that ack level. Why is ack set so low here? I think it would encourage better fights between bases if it was at MA levels. Last night, someone was doing a vulch orbit of the runway.
Can the Axis have the c205? I think it is more appropriate in this setup than the last one since allies have the P51 and P38J.
Oh, as far as 200, I vote for turning it off for the staged battles.
Chog
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friendly settings-- the idea is to force you to know your enemy, thats all. its just a different twist. if everyone is against it, we dont have to do it. but i saw alot of feedback that was looking for that sort of setup.
Quit yer squawkin...I was just pointing out something that is somewhat obvious. With the friendly icon range at D600 you're still getting the effect you're after, but there is a 300 yard buffer to keep the "oops, sorry..." to a minimum.
Pushing the limits is fine, as long as you know what the limits are to begin with...
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Why is ack set so low here?
For a couple of different reasons. First, bases on AvA maps tend to be closer together than they are on MA maps (for example, Okinawa). Taking off into puffy ack and/or base ack was viewed as causing an unwelcome waste of time. Second, the lower AvA population produces a larger proportion of 1 v 1 and 2 v 1 fights than the MA. When you're engaged in such a fight it's easy to wander into someone's ack; no one viewed having a good fight ended by ack as a positive thing. Vulching has generally not been a problem in AvA, so turning the ack down made sense.
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my last post was not a "Squawk" but rather a clarification.
I am not sure about this one. If the bases are large, and both can be used to up planes, this might not be necessary. If it is an ROE as opposed to a setting, then some folks might do it, anyway.
no aircraft will be available from second airbase. trust me!
rules of engagement? same as last time? anything else we might want to add?
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my last post was not a "Squawk" but rather a clarification.
:neener: my ears are still ringing. :neener:
Oh, only issue I can see with 200 being off limits is when someone goes to change sides for balance...friendly announcement in country channels maybe?
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my last post was not a "Squawk" but rather a clarification.
no aircraft will be available from second airbase. trust me!
rules of engagement? same as last time? anything else we might want to add?
aaww now ya blew it!!!!!
never trust a man that says trust me. :noid :neener:
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***friendly's at D300
***killshooter OFF
D300 for friendlies and icons off for enemies is very close to no icons at all. Not sure if that and killshooter off is a good combo. I like killshooter off but would keep friendly icons at say 1500. That's 1000yds shorter than we're used too. If that works well then going lower might be worth trying.
bombers will only be able to bomb target base, and area gv's. supporting bases will be off limits.
Why wouldn't you want supporting bases as viable targets? More assets to protect and more targets to attack. I suspect we'll have enough players to support a slightly expanded battle area. I think it would keep things interesting because it would allow for some element of surprise.
As for 200, if it makes your job a little easier and allows you some more playing time go for it bud.
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Vulching has generally not been a problem in AvA, so turning the ack down made sense.
The Fuzzy Face Shooters squad has decided to prove otherwise. Rammey, Hoey and Vultchy have been living up to their names real well in there. Theirs and a couple others vulching last night was just pathetic. Even with the light ack they were spending time clearing out the ack guns so they could vulch without being fired at.
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Are they accepting applications. I think I qualified last night :P
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that setup is fine with me.. i dont fire over 600 in AvA anyways, and i have a flatscreen i can use instead of this monitor so i can see them planes better....cant wait :x :x :x :x :x
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The Fuzzy Face Shooters squad has decided to prove otherwise. Rammey, Hoey and Vultchy have been living up to their names real well in there. Theirs and a couple others vulching last night was just pathetic. Even with the light ack they were spending time clearing out the ack guns so they could vulch without being fired at.
Were they trying to take the base?
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The Fuzzy Face Shooters squad has decided to prove otherwise. Rammey, Hoey and Vultchy have been living up to their names real well in there. Theirs and a couple others vulching last night was just pathetic. Even with the light ack they were spending time clearing out the ack guns so they could vulch without being fired at.
i've actually had a couple of decent fights with rammey, and not seen him vulch yet. i've seen vultchey trying the other night in a 110....i shot him with a field gun. :devil
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bombers will only be able to bomb target base, and area gv's. supporting bases will be off limits.
I am not sure about this one. If the bases are large, and both can be used to up planes, this might not be necessary. If it is an ROE as opposed to a setting, then some folks might do it, anyway.
no aircraft will be available from second airbase. trust me!
rules of engagement? same as last time? anything else we might want to add?
I was not questioning your intent on preventing aircraft from using the second airfield.
The point was that the restriction on bombing only the target fields (the gv bases, I presume) would not be necessary if both airfields were large (more ords to keep down) and both had aircraft enabled.
If the restriction on bombing only the target field is not in the settings, then people may do it any way. That is, if it is physically allowed in the settings, someone may do it. Not everyone will be reading the MOD.
Out of curiosity, how many folks dropped in last Tuesday without knowing the set up?
i've actually had a couple of decent fights with rammey, and not seen him vulch yet. i've seen vultchey trying the other night in a 110....i shot him with a field gun. :devil
Our names have to reflect how we play? Then I should be known as "Crashy" or "Burny."
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If that's true perhaps I should change the spelling of mine to Dieko
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Or Dike-O :rofl
Sorry man, it was there.
<S> Melvin
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:lol I knew that was coming eventually. Possible other permutations are Dyke-o, Ditch-o, and the list goes on.. :)
oops ... back on topic..
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Were they trying to take the base?
no they were ho'ing and vulching for no reason, or i should say, because they could!
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Ok heres my proposal for Tuesday Night if you guys are up for it!
Settings to consider for this battle:
***friendly's at D800 (split the difference)
***killshooter OFF
***turn ack up for this event? <edit>
it will be all about knowing or identifying the bad guys! yes i know check 6's are more difficult, but thats the fun of it!
also it will make BNZ more difficult!
Battle of the bridges:
V9 and V13 ---winner is the guy that captures the other base!
base support
V9 will have A21 for air support and A3 for gv support(planes will be disabled at that base)
V13 will have V14 for gv support and A4 for air support.
all bases not in this setup will have planes and GV's disabled to make sure it stays fair. this means ill have to reset the arena a couple of times, once beforehand, once later.
Vbase has to be taken by Gv troops. no air drops. c47 will be removed or troops(in the c47) will be disabled for resupplying. (ill have to see what the setup will let me do)
bombers will only be able to bomb target base and supporting Air base, and area gv's. supporting Vbases will be off limits.
channel 200 will be off limits for the duration of the event except for salutes! violators will be muted. you will be able to PM me if you have a problem but no conversations on 200, they usually lead to something we don't want.
The Battle Area: 9 and 13 will be the battle area. you can blow up bridges, blow up GV's and dog fight. you may bomb the crap out of the town and vehicles in it. the support bases are off limits to both sides. this means you can wipe out the target base, but you cant touch any other bases. this way the target bases will still be defendable.
aircraft and vehicles:
USAAF (Bishops)
P-38J
P-47D11
P-47D25
P-51B
B-17
B-24
C-47
GVs
Jeep
The Ms
M4A3 (75mm)
Luftwaffe (Knights)
FW-190A8
BF-109G6
BF-109G14
BF-110G
Ju-88
C-47
GVs
Jeep
Panzer IV
SdKfz 251
Ostwind
Wirbelwind
ARENA SETTINGS:
Bombsight: AvA standard (try it, it's fun)
Killshooter: ***OFF***
Visibility: 14.0 miles
Fuel burn rate: 1.0
Ack settings: .50
Base capture: 10 (map room .0015)
Radar (1943):
Sector 316,800
Tower 132,000
Icons: Enemy off, Friendly short(D800)
Axis radio 123
allies radio 126
200 off limits except for side switching announcements and salutes
Rules of Engagement:
1. no taunting, flaming etc. violators will be ejected. Zero Tolerance rule.
2. Ho'ing-- to be kept to a minimum. obvious violators will be sternly notified, but nothing more then that. We know its gonna happen, we just prefer that it doesn't.
ok look at the proposal above. changes are in red. see if this setup is acceptable to all of you?
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I'm good as always :aok
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Looks good to me sir :aok
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ok look at the proposal above. changes are in red. see if this setup is acceptable to all of you?
You forgot my doughnuts and spring water Jaeger! :D
PS-Looks good Sir.
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i'm very close to moving my 40" tv over to my computer, and using that for a monitor. :devil
I played on a HD 120" prejector screen in my theater room for about a year... Size helps but can also be a problem if you go to big....
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sounds good to me :aok
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I played on a HD 120" prejector screen in my theater room for about a year... Size helps but can also be a problem if you go to big....
niiiiice
something i was kind of curious about.
there's been threads before where some people have used those virtual goggles......they in themselves are monitors, and they have motion trackers built in. i wonder how they'd work in this environment?
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no clue but i know a fw times i felt queezy looking at the screen when moving around a lot...
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Pull the trigger, Cap! :aok. Let's get on with it! :salute. Sounds like more great fun to be had. :D
The issue of vulchers.....well it seems the ones that just can't resist it are either not capable or hesitant to get it on in a wide open dog fight. But, would rather troll around tagging airplanes on the ground. Basically, very little skill level demonstrated. My offer still stands. Whoever has the burning urge to vulce, let me know on 200 and I'll up on the runway, engine off, and make it so there is little skill or effort required to get that "vulch O ram a" fix. :neener: I'll even up the largest aircraft available.....just to make it reeeeeeal easy.
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niiiiice
something i was kind of curious about.
there's been threads before where some people have used those virtual goggles......they in themselves are monitors, and they have motion trackers built in. i wonder how they'd work in this environment?
I have a pair of those vuzix vr920.
I was just never happy with the resolution. I didn't spend enough trying to tweak em and then when I finally thought I'd drag em out and try em again, I found that a rodent of some kind had chewed through the wires.
I'll have to send them back to the company for repair and just haven't done that yet.
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I have a pair of those vuzix vr920.
I was just never happy with the resolution. I didn't spend enough trying to tweak em and then when I finally thought I'd drag em out and try em again, I found that a rodent of some kind had chewed through the wires.
I'll have to send them back to the company for repair and just haven't done that yet.
would i be too nosey to ask how much they cost? and how was the depth perceptoin with em?
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would i be too nosey to ask how much they cost? and how was the depth perceptoin with em?
Lessee, I think I paid about 250-300? on Ebay. New they are about 400.
http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_vr920.html
I don't remember what they were like depth perception wise. That was a couple of AH versions ago.
Kind of shows you what I thought of them that I just stuck em in a cabinet for the last year or two.
I think it's a technology that has potential, but the resolution really needs to improve, I remember having a lot of trouble reading the text buffer with them on.
If I ever get them repaired, I'll do some more testing and write up a review.
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lets do it
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Lessee, I think I paid about 250-300? on Ebay. New they are about 400.
http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_vr920.html
I don't remember what they were like depth perception wise. That was a couple of AH versions ago.
Kind of shows you what I thought of them that I just stuck em in a cabinet for the last year or two.
I think it's a technology that has potential, but the resolution really needs to improve, I remember having a lot of trouble reading the text buffer with them on.
If I ever get them repaired, I'll do some more testing and write up a review.
hhmm........for 400, might be worth a try........but i'm not sure i like the idea of having trouble reading the text buffer. if that's not clear, or easy to read, then the graphics themselves would have to kind of suck on em too.......
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hhmm........for 400, might be worth a try........but i'm not sure i like the idea of having trouble reading the text buffer. if that's not clear, or easy to read, then the graphics themselves would have to kind of suck on em too.......
Can we move this to a separate thread?
The answer is "not necessarily". When you put 2D elements into a 3D game, they still get a Z value (depth value), so they are basically a billboard placed in the 3D space. To make 2D elements clear/readable when using 3D viewing, you want that Z value to be the focal point of the stereovision viewing mode. If they aren't, they'll be blurry and out-of-focus. It's one of the big issues with trying to use stereoscopic viewing on a game not tested on it. I've actually put an option into software I've written to let you set the Z value for 2D interface elements in case users change the default focal point for some other reason. But it's common for reticules and HUD elements to be blurry if the developer has not accounted for it no matter how sharp the 3D looks.
Or they could just have cheap LCDs in there with low resolution to begin with, if they are trying to keep refresh rates up (important) and costs down (also important).