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Title: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 04, 2010, 04:32:05 PM
seems like every 3 minutes or so, I have to do the old .resetv command.  It doesnt matter what sounds I am using...stock or any others..all the same.  At first I thought it was because I was streaming XM radio while game was on, but it does it even without?  other games sounds are fine, only AH.  The sound in AH never really cuts out, just the small things like wind noise, my own engine.  Guns and vox and hits and explosions remain.

any ideas?
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: Skuzzy on October 06, 2010, 10:33:21 AM
Too many sounds playing at one time will cause it, if you are talking about general game sounds.  Voice loss would most probably be due to packet loss on the Internet connection.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 06, 2010, 10:55:15 AM
I can still hear guns and vox sounds; wind noise, stress and engine sounds go away..any ideas?
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: Delirium on October 06, 2010, 11:05:57 AM
I used to stream XM into my machine and realized it was affecting AH sounds when odd things happened, and this was with a dedicated sound card.

You must have an external XM device, you're far better running a wire from the device to the aux in port on the sound card to decrease the load on the computer. Running the native XM sound panel or even a widget will bite into Aces High, no matter how fast your system is.

As for your sounds overall, I have no clue.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: Skuzzy on October 06, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
Could be a configuration issue with the sound card.  When you run another sound application, at the same time as the game, it is not beyond the realm of possibilities the sound card configuration could get messed up.

Two different applications wanting to use the card in two different ways is a recipe for wrecking the configuration.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 06, 2010, 11:12:45 AM
It still does it even when not streaming XM, when only AH is running.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: Skuzzy on October 06, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Did you check your sound card configuration in Windows?  Did you check the device being used for sounds in the games Options->Preferences->Game Sounds?
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 06, 2010, 11:33:35 AM
what should I check for in the configuration in windows?
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: Skuzzy on October 06, 2010, 11:35:46 AM
That it matches the actual speaker configuration and that nothing is being applied to the sounds to alter the sounds, such as EAX, Dolby,....

If you are using custom sounds packs, get rid of them!  Some of the custom sound packs have switched to stereo sounds which could definately cause issues for sounds that are not supposed to be stereo.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 06, 2010, 11:39:20 AM
ok, thanks for the quick response.

I love you Skuzzy
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: USRanger on October 06, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
Skuzzy, Jolly is using my new pack (he's a squaddie & friend) and the sounds that he says he is losing were done in 22KHz 8-bit mono, to keep file size small.  I only used stereo on some engine start-ups (which work for him).  Could that really be the problem?  No one else has reported this problem, so I'd like to know "just in case".

I still say it's too much man porn on Jolly's PC.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: Skuzzy on October 06, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
Every computer will be different.  Using mono sounds assures everything will work as that is the lowest common denominator.  It solves a lot of compatibility issues with other sound apps that might be playing at the same time.

It also might just solve these random crashes to desktop as well.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 07, 2010, 06:05:42 AM
I even tied with the original sound pack and no XM...same results
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: RTHolmes on October 07, 2010, 12:26:01 PM
Some of the custom sound packs have switched to stereo sounds which could definately cause issues for sounds that are not supposed to be stereo.

Ive been wondering about this - surely all of the sounds should be mono since AH locates them in the virtual 3D world, then directx/soundcard dictates how they are represented on the playback device (ie. stereo headphones, 5.1 system etc.)?

btw One of my squaddies has had problems with AH crashing since installing one of the stereo soundpacks. reverting to mono sounds resolved it.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: The Fugitive on October 07, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
Ive been wondering about this - surely all of the sounds should be mono since AH locates them in the virtual 3D world, then directx/soundcard dictates how they are represented on the playback device (ie. stereo headphones, 5.1 system etc.)?

btw One of my squaddies has had problems with AH crashing since installing one of the stereo soundpacks. reverting to mono sounds resolved it.

It's like anything else, if your computer doesn't have the b@lls to run it, it WILL cause problems. Skuzzy has said it before they went to stereo that the custom sound pack take more  to run. Now your asking your computer to not only run a custom sound, your asking it to run in stereo.

I don't think Jolly's issue is the same as your squadmates. Your squadmates computer might be on the "lower" end of those computers running the game and the custom sound just push it over the edge. Much like someone running the hirez package and having issues.

Sound is screwy on computers. I have run into a number of problems trying sound programs and finding out they don't play well with other sound programs. I'm thinking that is where jollys problem might be too, one of his sound programs isn't playing well with another one. Trouble is finding.
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: RTHolmes on October 07, 2010, 04:47:21 PM
well his PC is a month old, fast dual cpu, plenty RAM, decent soundcard etc. you're right though, sound is surprisingly screwy on PCs. I must have spent 10x the time getting sound working well than GPUs, joystick etc over the years.


still cant think of anywhere a stereo sound makes sense in AH  :headscratch:
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: USRanger on October 07, 2010, 05:15:35 PM
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http://www.bops.us/bops/bin/site/ftp/bops/sounds.zip

Then HTC shouldn't have switched to the Miles system.  Jolly is having the same problems with my old pack, which is all in mono and worked fine for him for years on his old pc.  If it was a problem with the pack, everyone would be reporting this.  Plus, the sounds that he loses are still in mono.  Additionally, my new pack is a third of the size of the previous version (I noticed all the packs repeat some of the same sounds in different plane folder, which was a waste of memory and unnecessary).

Skuzzy, if Jolly turned his Hardware Acceleration down to 75% through Control Panel, would that possibly help?
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: jollyFE on October 07, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
i was thinking of uninstalling AH then re installing and see if that works
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: USRanger on October 07, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
I still say it's too much man porn saved. :neener:
Title: Re: resetting sound
Post by: The Fugitive on October 07, 2010, 09:23:30 PM
I still say it's too much man porn saved. :neener:

Well I can't vouch for that, evidently you can,  :devil

I don't know "if" the stereo sounds are used right in the custom packs, or if they are set right in the game to provide the correct sound/effect, all I know is it sounds coool!!  :)