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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tupac on October 05, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTWBrUCst0
I decided I would make a separate thread for this video, because many have already looked at it and probably won't again. Plus, that thread cannot contain the awesomeness of this video.
At around 3:50 is when I start singing - right when i'm turning final. If you want to skip to the good part, thats it.
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wai wai.. you're singing?
ALFRED??? Earmuffs please :P
I'll check it out in a bit :)
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:lol
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:aok
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Glad to see you're growing complacent at what...15 hours?
Have fun but don't forget this business can kill you.
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:aok
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the singing man, while on final. lol its the singing that makes me ROFL hahaha :lol
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Glad to see you're growing complacent at what...15 hours?
Have fun but don't forget this business can kill you.
I wasn't complacent. I was 100% focused, but I just felt like singing "The Final Countdown"
I was REALLY happy
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Congrats on your solo :salute
Funny thing though, I could hear you singing plain as day but couldn't hear a single radio call. Is it not at least customary where you are to call downwind and final at least...or call your intention to take off?
Airmanship, it's what really keeps us all alive.
Looks like you did a nice job flying though:)
Pork
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Congrats on your solo :salute
Funny thing though, I could hear you singing plain as day but couldn't hear a single radio call. Is it not at least customary where you are to call downwind and final at least...or call your intention to take off?
Airmanship, it's what really keeps us all alive.
Looks like you did a nice job flying though:)
Pork
Listen closer, You cant hear me call crosswind or downwind because im full throttle, but go to about 3:40 and you can hear me call final.
I'd have to listen again to find where I call base, but I know I made all my calls.
edit: 3:20 I called base, turn your volume all the way up and you can hear it.
And as for takeoff - The entire Video is about 16 minutes long and I cut it down as much as I could. I had already passed the hold line and made my call when the video starts.
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okay watched the vid
you have a MUCH brighter future as a pilot than a lead vocalist :D
Congratulations :aok
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I wasn't complacent. I was 100% focused, but I just felt like singing "The Final Countdown"
I was REALLY happy
it's awesome that you did this, and that you're happy about it. a big :aok
you shouldn't have been singing though. especially not on final. there is too much going on, and too much that can suddenly go wrong, with little or no warning.
if you were singing, you weren't totally focused on your landing, regardless of the song.
not trying to be critical here, just trying to help ya not become an NTSB report.
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I wasn't complacent. I was 100% focused, but I just felt like singing "The Final Countdown"
I was REALLY happy
Look back on it in 1, 5, 10 and 20 years and see if that's what you think about what you're saying. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't be happy but tighten it up and remember that airplanes will kill you. As you instructor I would feel I did something wrong if you're doing stuff like that before you're flying on your own ticket much less on your first solo. It wasn't often but the two times I did revoke solo endorsements for private students once upon a time it was for issues less than that.
Maybe that's why I never scheduled first solo's just like I wouldn't schedule a first flight of a homebuilt.
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Its almost something subconscious, because I didn't really know I was doing it.
My instructor saw the video and was laughing very hard, so he didn't see any problems.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose
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I'll have to agree with Golfer on this one. I wouldn't bust somebody's chops for singing out a tune in the middle of a XC leg, but turning final on a first solo is the last place you need to be doing something like that. You're slow, close to the ground and behind the power curve. If any one thing goes wrong you need to be on a hair trigger to deal with the problem. Singing out songs shows a lack of concentration. Even though it's a trainer, the airplane is fully capable of killing you when it feels like it.
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I'll say again what I said before.
I was 100% focused, but I felt like singing, so I did.
If you would like, I could post one the of videos my instructor took from the outside of the plane. It was a real nice landing.
My instructor said he didn't have a problem with it. It's my personality - the way I am.
I posted this so people could have a laugh, not criticize my flying. If anyone has a problem, feel free to come down to Texas and fly with me. On a related note, I had 23 hours when I soloed - all the required dual for getting my license. Now I'm working on dual xcountry and hopefully next week, my first solo xcountry.
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If you don't like the idea of somebody criticizing your flying than you don't have any business posting videos of it. There's a younger guy on the AOPA forums who learned that lesson the hard way. When he posted videos of himself involved in some FAR violations and had to pay a visit to his local FSDO.
Whether the singing worked out for you or not on this flight isn't the issue. What I'm saying is that you added another distraction to a critical phase of flight that simply isn't necessary. You've got two experienced pilots telling you the same thing. Take the advice or leave it, it's up to you. Just know that once you start posting videos of your flights you're going to receive critique of what you're doing.
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Its almost something subconscious, because I didn't really know I was doing it.
My instructor saw the video and was laughing very hard, so he didn't see any problems.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose
flying w traffic skyhawk right downwind 01 flying w.
flying w traffic skyhawk right base 01 flying w
flying w traffic skyhawk final 01 flying w.
that is all that comes out of my mouth once i have started the landing process.
your mind should be 110% focused on your landing. anything less, will land you as an NTSB report sooner rather than later.
aircraft are VERY safe. they can also be very unforgiving.
do not allow yourself to become complacent....and if you were singing, you weren't concentrating on the task at hand.
:aok
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You have a good point, but I certainly don't think I was violating any FARs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTWBrUCst0
I decided I would make a separate thread for this video, because many have already looked at it and probably won't again. Plus, that thread cannot contain the awesomeness of this video.
At around 3:50 is when I start singing - right when i'm turning final. If you want to skip to the good part, thats it.
on my first solo, i thought i wasn't ready. my cfi got out, and told me to make the 3 trips 'round the patch.
as i sat there waiting in line to take off, i was constantly going over everything.....radios set, trim set for take off, carb heat in, both mags on, dg ok, kept pulling my safety harness tight......everything.
to be honest, i was scared. the fear went away as the wheels lifted. at that point, it was "holy chit!! i'm doing it!!" i did everything just as i had been taught. i was truly amazed at how much better she climbed without the cfi over there. same for coming down. she wanted to keep flying at the settings i was accustomed to.
i did everything perfect. that first landing was probably one of my best. i concentrated on what i was doing. nothing else mattered, 'cept for making this cessna do as i wished, and doing it well enough to make my cfi proud.
to this day, i've only got around 210 hours, but i go by sterile cockpit rules once i'm in the pattern. no watermelon chat, no singing, no calling bob on the radio.....nothing. if it does not have anything to do with the landing, then it can and will wait till i'm on the ground, clear the active, and stopped.
please dude, don't let yourself get complacent at such a young age.
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You have a good point, but I certainly don't think I was violating any FARs
you weren't. it'd just suck to see you have a problem.
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I certainly was nervous, but I had the same feeling you did as my wheels left the ground.
I was so happy infact, that I started to sing "The Final Countdown"
There was no complacency, no boredness.
I felt like I was in heaven
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I certainly was nervous, but I had the same feeling you did as my wheels left the ground.
I was so happy infact, that I started to sing "The Final Countdown"
There was no complacency, no boredness.
I felt like I was in heaven
Tu,
At some point, you are going to fly aircraft that right now are significantly beyond your capability - and, in comparison are extremely unforgiving. I'm going to give you a couple of examples I have with students of short field landings: These guys need to calculate the reference speed (The speed over the numbers) to within 1 knot, and they have to hit it or they end-up going off the end of the runway.
Keep it all business till you've gotten a few sunsets under yr belt. Now on with the videos.
Hitting a seagull while landing and not losing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eDnJhhk79k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eDnJhhk79k)
Hitting 2 Ospreys while landing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqndvrhoxwI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqndvrhoxwI)
Proper short field landing with 50 foot obstacle - 2nd centerline stripe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcg5j7iGrhs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcg5j7iGrhs)
Blowing the short field landing by 5 knots over Vref - bad things happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4foGBvFEj4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4foGBvFEj4)
Proper short/soft field approach at Vref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptlbz4w_fjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptlbz4w_fjE)
Short field approach using FWD slip to keep us at Vref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_fR-Hid2o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_fR-Hid2o)
Short field approach but 5 knots above Vref - again - not so good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4EqqHQ33Kk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4EqqHQ33Kk)
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I definitely worry about birdstrikes. Boerne stage is where they have the San Antonio soaring society, so we have lots of thermals, and lots of big birds.
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mannn....i am gonna get in soooo much trouble for this.
listen....this is NOT intended to be mean. please take it constructively?
you looked like you let the plane pull you to the left as you accelerated....possibly a little too light on the rudder? it also sounded like you might've fed the throttle in a teeeeny bit fast too.
on landing........you looked to be to the left again. it could be the fact that the camera wasn't straight though making it look that way.
the one i got in big trouble with my cfi for.....you called clear the active when in fact you were still on it. i know you were turned off, but according to what i was taught, you don't call clear of the active till your tail is across that line. then you stop, and "clean up" the airplane. it didn't look like you did.
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It was most likely a mix of both. Watch the edge of the propeller and where it stays in relation to the cloud.
I did feed the throttle in a bit too fast - but didn't just jam it in.
On landing, I caught a bit of a wind and I applied a bit of rudder that was at most 5 seconds.
You have a good eye for those things. Are you a CFI?
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lol'd its the final countDOWN! what are u flying, a diamond?
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It was most likely a mix of both. Watch the edge of the propeller and where it stays in relation to the cloud.
I did feed the throttle in a bit too fast - but didn't just jam it in.
On landing, I caught a bit of a wind and I applied a bit of rudder that was at most 5 seconds.
You have a good eye for those things. Are you a CFI?
no i'm not. i just tend to notice things, and with flying, i get a little anal...........the one thing i constantly repeat, is
i refuse to become an NTSB report through any fault of my own.
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lol'd its the final countDOWN! what are u flying, a diamond?
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Hey Tupac, take all you read here with some heart. Some of us are old and been there, done that (and still do). We just want to impress on you that flying is a risk and needs to be managed, and so we will critique anything you put out here. It's the same in the real world vs us online. We all learn from each others mistakes and successes. Flying is a brother / sister hood,we look out for each other.
I am really happy that you have "found" the joy of flight...it is a rare and wonderful gift.
Just remember, there are old pilots and bold pilots...but there are very few old-bold pilots.
Regards, and safe flying
Pork
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Never heard it put like that before Pork, thats pretty profound. Thanks for the advice.
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Never heard it put like that before Pork, thats pretty profound. Thanks for the advice.
I sense the force in this one :)
Fly safe and buy me a beer in 20 years.
Pork
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Hey Tupac, take all you read here with some heart. Some of us are old and been there, done that (and still do). We just want to impress on you that flying is a risk and needs to be managed, and so we will critique anything you put out here. It's the same in the real world vs us online. We all learn from each others mistakes and successes. Flying is a brother / sister hood,we look out for each other.
I am really happy that you have "found" the joy of flight...it is a rare and wonderful gift.
Just remember, there are old pilots and bold pilots...but there are very few old-bold pilots.
Regards, and safe flying
Pork
nicely said sir. :aok
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I sense the force in this one :)
Fly safe and buy me a beer in 20 years.
Pork
I definitely will.
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I definitely will.
Great!
None of that domestic crap though, I have decidedly imported palate! :D
Pork
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hmmm so no Shiner for you
CHECK!!!