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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Pigslilspaz on October 06, 2010, 07:41:47 PM
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So, I know there's a lot of people here with licenses, and was wondering if you folks could help me out. I honestly want to take up flying, but I have no clue what to do or how to go about it. Any tips or advice?
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You might look here to see what's available in your area: http://www.pilot-flight-instruction.com/ (http://www.pilot-flight-instruction.com/)
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Start checking at your local airport(s) for schools. In the best option there will be multiple schools so you can get a bid on the normal 40 hour "course". Keep in mind that few folks get their license in less than 50 hours so the old FAA standard of 40 hours will not be the total cost. You will need to ask what is the average number of hours their students take for licensing, their pass rate on first test (FAA check ride) and materials available. Check their planes for condition. Older birds are not bad but stained, oil soaked, deteriorated birds are not a good sign of competent and continuing maintenance. How many instructors do they have and what is their student per instructor load? How long have the instructors been there or are they doing a lot of turn over?
Last thing is how comfortable do you feel visiting their facility. You will be spending a LOT of time there. Oh and you want an integrated ground school not just a stack of books to study then take the test.
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also, one other question. I have Asperger's Syndrome. I know that you have to take a physical, and I'm wondering if I should mention it or not. I know of other people who fly who have AS, but I would like to avoid all legal hassle as much as possible.
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I'm interested but it would be about this time next year before I could consider it. Health is okay but eyesight is starting to go.. what are the requirements?
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I'm interested but it would be about this time next year before I could consider it. Health is okay but eyesight is starting to go.. what are the requirements?
20/20. But you can have glasses
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looks like I'm going to have to count on you to take me up.. but NO SINGING!!! :D
either that or stare at the laser :neener:
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome or anything else they ask you.
One rule: Tell the truth.
And let the chips fall where they will.
Don't ever compromise your integrity.
:cheers:
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Where in Texas do you live dicho? Once I get my license I could definitely take you for a spin
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DFW mid cities..
When you're ready let me know Tup.. :aok
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DFW mid cities..
When you're ready let me know Tup.. :aok
I def will!
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome or anything else they ask you.
One rule: Tell the truth.
And let the chips fall where they will.
Don't ever compromise your integrity.
:cheers:
just dont know what the faa says about the autism spectrum. i just have a feeling they will put the hammer down just because theyll see its related to austism and not actually relize its on a scale and not a black and white diagnoses
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Tupac i just started flight lessons up a little from you in georgetown. do you have any awesome tips. BTW im 17 so kinda in the same spot as you.
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Tupac i just started flight lessons up a little from you in georgetown. do you have any awesome tips. BTW im 17 so kinda in the same spot as you.
DO NOT SING ON FINAL. Be confident, but not overconfident. You always have time to double-check everything. Be respectful to all the instructors/any seniority. Aviation is a very conservative thing, while kids are welcome we arent held in the highest regard.
BTW are you taking lessons at KGTU? the cherokee from boerne stage will be up there next week.
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DO NOT SING ON FINAL. Be confident, but not overconfident. You always have time to double-check everything. Be respectful to all the instructors/any seniority. Aviation is a very conservative thing, while kids are welcome we arent held in the highest regard.
BTW are you taking lessons at KGTU? the cherokee from boerne stage will be up there next week.
thanks. lol trust me i dont sing, and i'm a very respectful kid. yes i am at KGTU i'm at pilots choice aviation. theres a B25J in the hanger. Devil Dog i'm sure you have seen her if you live in Texas. ill be there every day next week at 1400. thats the second hanger from the north. im training on a piper tomahawk. but i have a buddy out here with a Harvard mk4, that i might be able to start training with.
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Devil Dog was at the doolittle raiders reunion a couple of years ago, I bought a shirt from them. I'm not going to be in georgetown in the next week, but I intend on making that one of my legs during long leg xcountry. I'll let you know when it is, I like meeting members of the AH community.
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anytime man. my last class of the day is at the airport. shes a beautiful bird.
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looks like I'm going to have to count on you to take me up.. but NO SINGING!!! :D
either that or stare at the laser :neener:
That would be20/20 "corrected" vision. So as Tupac stated, as long as you can have glasses to get there you are good to go.
Regards
Pork ( almost blind..uncorrected... commercial pilot)
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That would be20/20 "corrected" vision. So as Tupac stated, as long as you can have glasses to get there you are good to go.
Regards
Pork ( almost blind..uncorrected... commercial pilot)
Do you fly big jets or are you a CFI?
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Do you fly big jets or are you a CFI?
Commercial Heli.
Have done recurrent and company training before, but not an Ab-Initio instructor. I have no desire to spend my day sitting beside someone whose only goal is to kill me. :bolt:
Regards
Pork
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dont lie on your physical, but see if you can find a ME that is a pilot. They will know how to word things on the report the best. Also go into detail about any problems and explain them in detail.
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20/20. But you can have glasses
Try again. 14CFR Part 67 holds your answer.
If you intend to fly recreationally Dicho; correctable 20/40 near or distant is all that's required for what's called a third class medical certificate. This allows you to operate with private, recreational and student pilot certificates which themselves afford you the privileges of flying an airplane for not less than the pro-rata cost of the airplane and also not for hire. For hire simply meaning you're being compensated to operate the airplane which as a private, recreational or student pilot you are now allowed to do.
To fly with the privileges of a commercial pilot or airline transport pilot certificate you require a second or first class medical certificate which requires 20/20 distant vision (corrected to) and 20/40 near vision (again corrected)
LASIK and other such procedures are very much approved and for further details you can contact a local Aviation Medical Examiner (AME) which is usually best to get referrals from local pilots for their doctors or going here:
http://www.aviationmedicine.com/
This used to be Virtual Flight Surgeons but they're a team of very pilot friendly doctors whose business it is to educate you on your medical issues.
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just dont know what the faa says about the autism spectrum. i just have a feeling they will put the hammer down just because theyll see its related to austism and not actually relize its on a scale and not a black and white diagnoses
Is this something you want to do as a career or just for fun? If its the later, you could look at the Sport Pilot Certificate. It limits you to a certain category of aircraft (two person and relatively light) and to flight in good conditions (VFR), but the only medical requirement is that you hold a current driver's license. The training cost / requirements are also lower.
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I have no desire to spend my day sitting beside someone whose only goal is to kill me. :bolt:
Regards
Pork
LOL
I'd like to be a CFI, it just seems like a really cool job.
I wasn't aware that it was 20/40 for class 3. I thought it was 20/20 all.
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So, I know there's a lot of people here with licenses, and was wondering if you folks could help me out. I honestly want to take up flying, but I have no clue what to do or how to go about it. Any tips or advice?
Piglet,
Goto Hayward and California Airways - ask for Keith and tell'm Wolf sent ya. His outfit is affordable and they don't suck. Concord is a bit limited unless yr flying Cirrus's out of Sterling aviation.
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Piglet,
Goto Hayward and California Airways - ask for Keith and tell'm Wolf sent ya. His outfit is affordable and they don't suck. Concord is a bit limited unless yr flying Cirrus's out of Sterling aviation.
Do you only teach people to fly Cirrus's? I looked at your videos on youtube, and they all look like the Cirrus
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just an fyi...for you kids(i never thought the day would come when i called teenagers kids.....)
anyway....check into your local civil air patrol. you can get flight training through them, although you do other things too.
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Piglet,
Goto Hayward and California Airways - ask for Keith and tell'm Wolf sent ya. His outfit is affordable and they don't suck. Concord is a bit limited unless yr flying Cirrus's out of Sterling aviation.
Alright, but I am going to be hopefully going to CalPoly SLO next year if i can get into the summer program. And thanks for the head's up, I was really thinking about Stirling since Buchanan Air Field is a 5 minute drive from my house.
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Is this something you want to do as a career or just for fun? If its the later, you could look at the Sport Pilot Certificate. It limits you to a certain category of aircraft (two person and relatively light) and to flight in good conditions (VFR), but the only medical requirement is that you hold a current driver's license. The training cost / requirements are also lower.
A couple years ago, I wanted to do commercial, but then realized once I got my first job that no matter what, you'll probably end up resenting it. So for me, it would probably be private. Already planned out Aeronautical Engineering as my Major once i got to CalPoly.
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So, I know there's a lot of people here with licenses, and was wondering if you folks could help me out. I honestly want to take up flying, but I have no clue what to do or how to go about it. Any tips or advice?
Not really that hard, all you need is time and money.
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Do you only teach people to fly Cirrus's? I looked at your videos on youtube, and they all look like the Cirrus
Majority of the guys I work with are Cirrus drivers, but also do Malibu's, Meredians, cesuras up though 206, 310, 414, Diamonds, I get around.
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LOL
I'd like to be a CFI, it just seems like a really cool job.
I wasn't aware that it was 20/40 for class 3. I thought it was 20/20 all.
I’ve been a CFII Multi & Single, Glider Fixed wing, for 35 years. I have also been a ski instructor for 35 years. I teach flying in the spring and summer and teach skiing in the winter . I now make all of $25.00 an hour as a par time CFI and $100.00 an hour as a par time ski instructor. Become a Ski instructor. It pays better , more single women, and no FAA.
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I think I found what to do, lol.
I always spend a huge chunk of winter up in tahoe, might need to teach snowboarding :D
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Not alot of snow here in south Texas, I think I'll be a CFI.
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thanks for the advice everyone, especially dicho's msgs. 2 more questions, how much should i expect to pay before i get my license, and how long will it take (i know there is no definate, but avg's please)
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Pig, I would suggest calling around to various airports around your home (assuming there is more than 1). Many Flight Schools offer introduction flights. Don't rush it, fly a number of intro flights with different instructors. Finding an instructor that meshes with you is huge.
It takes someone anywhere from 40 - 60 hours to become proficient enough to obtain a license. At about $150/hr (of course every school will vary in price), you can expect to pay no less than $5,500 Remember though, you pay as you go. Flying twice a month for an hour, you'll need around two years to get your license.
As for Health issues...as the late and great Gen. Doolittle said, "know your limits".
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thanks for the advice everyone, especially dicho's msgs. 2 more questions, how much should i expect to pay before i get my license, and how long will it take (i know there is no definate, but avg's please)
Depends on the school, expect to pay atleast 7k. They have minimum requirements for hours 20 dual/10 solo, then another 10 mixed for a 40 minimum, but few make it before 50 hours.
The amount of time it takes varies, just depends how often you want to fly.
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Depends on the school, expect to pay atleast 7k. They have minimum requirements for hours 20 dual/10 solo, then another 10 mixed for a 40 minimum, but few make it before 50 hours.
The amount of time it takes varies, just depends how often you want to fly.
Well said. Also remember pig, once you have your license, you have it for life.
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Well said. Also remember pig, once you have your license, you have it for life.
I just realized you posted the same thing, sorry bro.
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I just realized you posted the same thing, sorry bro.
no need, well said :rock
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thanks for the advice everyone, especially dicho's msgs. 2 more questions, how much should i expect to pay before i get my license, and how long will it take (i know there is no definate, but avg's please)
I'm figuring on the final figure being somewhere between $10k and $15k based on 60ish hours at $150 ($9000), 40 of which will bu dual ($2000). Add to that ground school, books, checkrides, headsets, theory exam fee etc. It adds up pretty quickly. You can cut that down by a couple of grand by flying cheaper planes - plenty of nice LSA's or older Cessna's out there for closer to $100 an hour.
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I’ve been a CFII Multi & Single, Glider Fixed wing, for 35 years. I have also been a ski instructor for 35 years. I teach flying in the spring and summer and teach skiing in the winter . I now make all of $25.00 an hour as a par time CFI and $100.00 an hour as a par time ski instructor. Become a Ski instructor. It pays better , more single women, and no FAA.
YA KNOW?
on one hand, i'm thankful that that's all i had to pay for my cfi, considering the cost of the aircraft rental.
on the other hand, i don't think you guys make nearly enough considering the responsibility on your shoulders.
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Well said. Also remember pig, once you have your license, you have it for life.
providing you keep it current. medical every 3 years.....every 2 if over 40. biennial flight review.
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Check for a privately owned airports that have a flight school, they don't hav overhead so it is alot cheaper.
I'm paying $80 hr plus $40 for an instructor. 120 an hour - most other places around here charge 120 for just the plane.
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Check for a privately owned airports that have a flight school, they don't hav overhead so it is alot cheaper.
I'm paying $80 hr plus $40 for an instructor. 120 an hour - most other places around here charge 120 for just the plane.
cessna 172 where i fly is somewhere around 90 now. i think the da20 is 100, and i forget what the warriors are.
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Check for a privately owned airports that have a flight school, they don't hav overhead so it is alot cheaper.
I'm paying $80 hr plus $40 for an instructor. 120 an hour - most other places around here charge 120 for just the plane.
Damn! great rate.
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Damn! great rate.
Come t white plains sometimes - $285 plane and 95 instructor.
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Come t white plains sometimes - $285 plane and 95 instructor.
That's too bad. Discourages people from wanting to fly.
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That's too bad. Discourages people from wanting to fly.
No. It just caters toward hi net worth guys driving the latest and greatest.
See this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280879.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280879.0.html)
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No. It just caters toward hi net worth guys driving the latest and greatest.
See this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280879.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280879.0.html)
I wasn't aware there were so many RL pilots in AH! Thanks for the link!
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When I got my license, a Piper Cub or Cessna 140 (for those wanting their taildragger endorsement) was $45 an hour wet. A Cessna 172 would cost you $65 an hour wet, and if you really wanted to go whole hog, you could get a Doctor Killer (Bonanza V-Tail) for $80.
Times have changed I guess....
J