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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: JHerne on October 08, 2010, 10:31:15 AM
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Mid War - Twin River Map or Tunisia:
3 layers of bases
1st layer, Mc.202 and 109F4, 109G2, 110C4 vs. P-40, Spit V, Hurricane IId and IIc.
2nd layer, Mc.205 and 109G6, 110G2 vs. P-38G, P-47D-11 and Spit VIII (or IX)
3rd layer, Fiat G.55 (kidding! :P) and Fw-190A5/A8 vs. P47D-25 and P-38J (the A8 is a bit out of time line, but so is the 38J - balance).
Using the same premise as last week's mission, capture the Vbase on the opposite side of the river. The difference here is this: the better aircraft are farther away, allowing time to climb out. +1. It takes longer to bring these aircraft into play -1. So...its balanced. Bombers available at all bases - JU-88, Ju-87, and B-25, Bostons. GVs - Panzer, 251, M4 and M3. No anti-aircraft GVs. Historically, production of the M16 began in May of '43, right around the time this scenario should be taking place. Wirbles and Ostis never made it to North Africa.
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Bodenplatte - Germany map
January 1945
Reference: Operation Bodenplatte, by John Mahnro
While the actual operation was a debacle for the Luftwaffe - here it could be interesting. Limit aircraft types to particular bases on the Allied side (since that's historical and there were more varieties to choose from). Base ack should be reduced, in the event the Germans actually get to the bases to start taking down ord, dar, etc.
Phase I - P-47s run headlong into Fw-190A-8s, Bf-109G-14s at low altitude. As pilots are shot down, they move into Phase II aircraft and launch at pre-determined times...
Phase II - P-51s, Spitfire XIV (can we unperk them?) and Typhoons versus Fw-109D-9s and Bf-109K-4s (or they can retain their 109s)
Phase III - end the evening with a free-for-all
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Race for the base - Germany '45
Germany map
Reference: Last Days of the Luftwaffe, Albert Price
Bf109G-14s and K4s versus La-5, La-7, Yak 9s, IL-2
Armor - Panzers, Tiger (if we can unperk), WW, Osti, vs. T-34/85, M3, M16
Scenario - Russians are advancing on German airfield with armor. German fighters attempt to counter armor while German armor races in from another direction. End result is a fight over the town. An element I'm leaving out of the scenario would be the movement of a group of ground vehicles (aka, the retreat from the Russians), but I doubt anyone would want to roll an empty 251 from one place to another just to achieve a goal.
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Eastern Front - 1943
Bf-109G-6 and Fw-190A5 versus La-5, P-39
Panzers, 251 vs. T-34/76, M3
Ju-88 versus Boston
This is where 3 sides can effectively work. Rook=German, Knight= Russian, Bish side, a neutral town in the middle. First to capture the neutral town wins. Ack shoots at everyone!
These are just some ideas - if anyone is interested in hashing them out further, lemme know. :salute
J
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I like that setup sounds like a fun time :aok
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I'm not history expert, but these sound very interesting and fun to fly. :salute
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Thanks guys....the one that intrigues me the most is the 3-sided AvA where the 3rd side is a neutral target.
Both sides have to work to take the town down - town shoots at everyone - and each side has to fend off attempts from the other to capture it.
J
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Thanks guys....the one that intrigues me the most is the 3-sided AvA where the 3rd side is a neutral target.
Both sides have to work to take the town down - town shoots at everyone - and each side has to fend off attempts from the other to capture it.
J
It's a great concept, similar to AirWarrior's original map, but unfortunately maps don't reset in AvA. If you take all the neutral bases, the map and plane set get porked and stay that way until a staffer happens by to reset everything.
- oldman
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but worth a shot if we could get a staffer to commit to being there?
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but worth a shot if we could get a staffer to commit to being there?
We have our prices....
- oldman
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I have access to plenty of sheep sir .. only slightly used for the most part. :D
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sheep?!!
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awww geeeeez do you need a goat? I can get one but I'll have to hawk Squids laptop.. :devil
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i have a whole field of sheep will sell for top market dollar
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I was thinking more along the lines of our weekly snapshot, not necessarily an all-out week-long campaign...
Sorta like we did the other night with Jaegar's twin river setup.
Perhaps I'm not completely up on the process....
J
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okay back on topic....
I'm in :aok
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This is where 3 sides can effectively work. Rook=German, Knight= Russian, Bish side, a neutral town in the middle. First to capture the neutral town wins. Ack shoots at everyone!
This is quite similar to something I'm planning for Oct 21
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,297607.0.html
The target neutral bases will be in between the rivers.
I will have 2 more off limits neutral bases with nothing enabled for capture in the furthest reaches of each countries territory to try to prevent the field count from going low enough to trigger a map reset.
Look for the full write up in a day or two.
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I'm new to this - I can provide all the historical data you need (most of it direct from the brain cells), but I'm not up on how its all set up, the amount of work involved, etc., but I am willing to learn.
I have downloaded all of the maps, so I'll fly around in offline mode and see what I can scout out as potential scenario sites for these one-night events. If this "ain't how its done in these-here parts", let me know.
J
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I'm new to this - I can provide all the historical data you need (most of it direct from the brain cells), but I'm not up on how its all set up, the amount of work involved, etc., but I am willing to learn.
I have downloaded all of the maps, so I'll fly around in offline mode and see what I can scout out as potential scenario sites for these one-night events. If this "ain't how its done in these-here parts", let me know.
J
One big way you can help is to offer suggestions on how to improve set-ups when posted, we have several members of the community that help us in this way.
A few of our set-ups are loosely historical/generic and don't represent an actual battle but a time frame or area in general.
There are sometimes intentional omissions to improve playability.
IE we may not always include the entire US/Britain planeset that was historically active in a particular scenario in order to keep the Luftwaffe from having to simultaneously deal with the best of turn fighters and fastest bnz birds.
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Absolutely. Understand completely.
There's gaps in the planeset as well that would limit the historical missions. Of course, any "historical" mission is bound to go totally awry once the scenario is underway. The real events were controlled chaos, expecting to recreate them with that same randomness in which combat occurs is idealistic at best. That's not to say that we can't create some great scenarios with what we have. The trouble is achieving a balance for the sake of gameplay.
I will offer this to my new pals in AvA. I have about 1500 or so books from my library in PDF format. I got this bright idea a few years ago when a buddy of mine (who works for NASM) lost his book collection to a fire. So I started scanning...ugh. I still have another 800-1000 books left to scan.
I have books on damned near everything imaginable in WW2 aviation. Books on particular units, battles, aircraft types, camouflage practices, you name it. If you're coming up with an idea and want more intel, PM me. I'll rummage through the files and post what I have to my server for you to use.
Something along the lines of "What do you have on the Ki-61 in New Guinea in '43?", or let's find some obscure encounter between Ki-84s and P-51s over Japan in 1945." Something as specific as that will be easy to nail down, and chances are I can provide you with multiple references.
J
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OK J i got one for ya when and where was the yak-9u used against what..and how do we implement that in to the ava for a spin. i need my Russian iron for a spell :airplane:
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Yak-9s were flown everywhere, they made more than 16,000 of them between 1943 and 1945.
I'll PM you my server site where I've uploaded some titles for you to read.
J
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Good idea JHerne, we have done the neutral country/bases before with less than stellar results for turnout...1 or 2 nights get a good crowd but the rest of the time the place was a graveyard...however, a bigger more diverse crowd is blooming so the right setup (ie map and planeset) could be a big hit. These "AvA snapshot missions" have become fairly popular.
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Ok hint hint Jaeger need some russian iron next time there is a late war setup :rock
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although i like flying more than gv'ing......does anyone remember that old tv series the rat patrol?
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Absolutely! Great series.
The Yak-9...served in various permutations from '43 to '45, so you can effectively pit it against anything Fw-109A-5, Bf-109G-6, and up.
The VVS's first Me-262 kill came from a Yak-9. The best idea I can come up with off the top of my head would be a series of battles between the following aircraft...
109G-14
109K-4
190A-8
190F-8
190D-9
JG 301, flying the Ta-152H, also had several encounters with Yak-9s, Jupp Kiel's last two kills were Yak-9s. There's a great account in Erich Hartmann's book of Bf-109K-4s tangling with Yak-9s, then a group of P-51s dove into the fray and the Russian Yaks fired on the US P-51s! This book (the Blonde Knight of Germany) has some fantastic accounts of late-war skirmishes between JG52 aircraft and countless VVS and Guards units.
This can tie into the second scenario I posted of the final days of the Luftwaffe, trying to hold back advancing Russian forces. The key to making these work is controlling the altitude. Yes, 109s met Yaks at 20K, but in the last days of the war, the bases were often so close that they were engaged as soon as the gear was up.
J
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Absolutely! Great series.
The Yak-9...served in various permutations from '43 to '45, so you can effectively pit it against anything Fw-109A-5, Bf-109G-6, and up.
The VVS's first Me-262 kill came from a Yak-9. The best idea I can come up with off the top of my head would be a series of battles between the following aircraft...
109G-14
109K-4
190A-8
190F-8
190D-9
JG 301, flying the Ta-152H, also had several encounters with Yak-9s, Jupp Kiel's last two kills were Yak-9s. There's a great account in Erich Hartmann's book of Bf-109K-4s tangling with Yak-9s, then a group of P-51s dove into the fray and the Russian Yaks fired on the US P-51s! This book (the Blonde Knight of Germany) has some fantastic accounts of late-war skirmishes between JG52 aircraft and countless VVS and Guards units.
This can tie into the second scenario I posted of the final days of the Luftwaffe, trying to hold back advancing Russian forces. The key to making these work is controlling the altitude. Yes, 109s met Yaks at 20K, but in the last days of the war, the bases were often so close that they were engaged as soon as the gear was up.
J
well, the reason i mentioned it, was a combination of dicho and i think jc mentioning the jeep battles. then i thought about one of the fso's i was in where i drove, and a squaddie manned the turret. it was on a desert terrain, and was a massive battle....and massively fun too.
to inspire total and complete silliness, i was thinking of maybe just jeeps and m3's...........
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Keep the stories coming Jherne... man I love this place. I get great writeups on WWII that you don't see in standard history texts and 5 seconds later we're talking about JEEP RAIDS!!!!! boooyahhhhh :rock
As for silliness.. well, obviously, that's my favorite thing.
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normal is boring. hence i shall don my special pink bra for tonights battles. :noid
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whats the terrain? Do I need my BDU's or DCU's? I'm taking cammo to the next level :t
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whats the terrain? Do I need my BDU's or DCU's? I'm taking cammo to the next level :t
hhmm....
good question. the only desert camo i have is a cover......all my other camo is woodland camo.
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just peeked... looks like lsd spider slapped her web on the terrain... woodlands are the order of the day. Bu bu bu... but no jeeps :cry
edit: I'm probably going in there as soon as this headache clears up.
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One of the best stories to come out of JG52 was in the winter of '44. It was so cold (-40) the 109s couldn't start. A shot-down Russian pilot was brought to the base and was walking around the aircraft. Through a translator, he could see why the Germans were having trouble not only starting their aircraft, but dealing with weapons troubles as well.
One of the first things he recommended was removing all the grease and oil from the weapons. The grease congealed to the point that it was nearly impossible for the mechanisms to work. They removed the grease, went to a light viscosity oil, and the weapons performed perfectly.
The second was hilarious. The Russian asked for a couple of gallons of gasoline, which he poured into a pan under the aircraft, and tossed in a lit match. The resulting flames caused the Germans to scatter and the Russian was almost shot on the spot. The fire burned for several minutes and everyone thought the aircraft was done for. The Russian then signaled the pilot to crank the aircraft and it fired right up.
Another trick learned from the Russians was to pour a half-gallon of gasoline into the oil sump of 109s. Since gasoline doesn't congeal like oil, it mixed with the oil and allowed the engines to be hand-cranked. As the engines would warm up, the gasoline mixed with the oil would evaporate off.
(Reference: Blond Knight of Germany, Chapter Six, pgs. 80-81)
Obviously, while these stories don't do much to help with the development of scenarios, they add a level of immersion to what we're doing in the sense that it adds a human element to two aircraft trying to shoot each other down.
J
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just peeked... looks like lsd spider slapped her web on the terrain... woodlands are the order of the day. Bu bu bu... but no jeeps :cry
edit: I'm probably going in there as soon as this headache clears up.
ibuprofen. :aok
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One of the best stories to come out of JG52 was in the winter of '44. It was so cold (-40) the 109s couldn't start. A shot-down Russian pilot was brought to the base and was walking around the aircraft. Through a translator, he could see why the Germans were having trouble not only starting their aircraft, but dealing with weapons troubles as well.
One of the first things he recommended was removing all the grease and oil from the weapons. The grease congealed to the point that it was nearly impossible for the mechanisms to work. They removed the grease, went to a light viscosity oil, and the weapons performed perfectly.
The second was hilarious. The Russian asked for a couple of gallons of gasoline, which he poured into a pan under the aircraft, and tossed in a lit match. The resulting flames caused the Germans to scatter and the Russian was almost shot on the spot. The fire burned for several minutes and everyone thought the aircraft was done for. The Russian then signaled the pilot to crank the aircraft and it fired right up.
Another trick learned from the Russians was to pour a half-gallon of gasoline into the oil sump of 109s. Since gasoline doesn't congeal like oil, it mixed with the oil and allowed the engines to be hand-cranked. As the engines would warm up, the gasoline mixed with the oil would evaporate off.
(Reference: Blond Knight of Germany, Chapter Six, pgs. 80-81)
Obviously, while these stories don't do much to help with the development of scenarios, they add a level of immersion to what we're doing in the sense that it adds a human element to two aircraft trying to shoot each other down.
J
that's pretty cool.
i had read a book called "combat crew". they talked of being careful to not over oil their guns in the b17's for the same reasons.........
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(Reference: Blond Knight of Germany, Chapter Six, pgs. 80-81)
Obviously, while these stories don't do much to help with the development of scenarios, they add a level of immersion to what we're doing in the sense that it adds a human element to two aircraft trying to shoot each other down.
yes but it does add to my attaining information I didn't have before. And that's a big + to me. When Murdr was posting regularly about historical facts you dang right I read it slowly and carefully. Got Blond Knight bookmarked for future reference..
Cap
These laugh at ibuprofen and just keep on coming. I've developed a real attitude about prescription meds over the last year (considering Squid told me about things I did / said when taking prescription Ambien and Xanax) that I absolutely do not remember. I'm off that garbage now but the muscle tension in my neck and shoulders from insomnia, stress, and such are a side effect. Not a pity party by any means. Lots of guys in this game have it a whole worse than I do in fact I'd bet 80 to 85%. I'm blessed with a good kid, a decent job, and I virtually hang out with some dang good guys. If a headache a couple of times a week is the worst I have to deal with... Cool :D
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I hear you Dichotomy I'm on meds to control my migraines i used to get them all the time now about two a year..in fact i have a headache right now.(actually a hangover shhh dont tell anyone), so i feel your pain. :(
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I her you Dichotomy I'm on meds to control my migraines i used to get them all the time now about two a year..in fact i have a headache right now.(actually a hangover shhh dont tell anyone), so i feel your pain. :(
you guys may get a laugh out of this.
i used to get bad headaches pretty much EVERY single day. some of those would be bordering on migraine status. then come sunday(my only day off) i DID have what felt like a migraine. every friggin weekend.
i was talking to the person that fixes my back. she mentioned that i get them on the weekends, 'cause i carry all of my stress in the base of my neck. tightening up like that was restricting bloodflow. then going home saturday night, i'd relax, and the sudden rush caused the sunday headaches. she likened it to when a cat falls asleep on your arm, and it goes numb....when you toss it across the room(kidding), as the feeling starts to come back, there's that massive pain for a few minutes. same effect.
whelp......after she told me about this, i started noticing all the little things about the shop that were pissing me off. it was a lot. from the boss not being there when he needed to be, to his friggin little kids(all of whom had 666 tattooed on their heads i think) getting into crap, and taking his tools, and trying to blame me.
so i found another job, and quit. hated it, and landed at the place i worked 15 years ago. rather coincidentally, the headaches all stopped. not a single one.
all i get now, are sinus(i think) headaches when we have extreme weather changes.
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your secret is safe with me Puma ;)
Cap... it's amazing to find out that you were stressed when you didn't really think you were. My doc is a great guy. Salt of the earth type and all of that but he's dang quick to diagnose 'depression' and slap scripts in your hand. Like I said above there were way too many nights that I went to bed and found out the next day that I was wandering around spouting random nonsense and didn't remember ANY of it. And I was cutting the doses in halfs and quarters. I'm still dealing with insomnia to a small degree but I'll take that and the headaches over being completely out of control any day.
All of that aside anybody want to set a time to fly the kites tomorrow? Looks like we had some guys in but not enough numbers earlier today. Looks like a good opportunity for hilarity to ensue if we get enough of us in there..
I have a wacky idea. I wonder if we could do PT boat races one fine Sunday. KS off and race around a battlegroup. First one back to the port wins.... Nice de stressing exercise before hitting the M - F grind. Screen shots could be epic!!!!
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Salt of the earth type and all of that but he's dang quick to diagnose 'depression' and slap scripts in your hand.
Left my last doctor because his way of treating stress-induced symptoms after some medical issues with our second-born (everyone is fine, just a stressful time) was to prescribe an anti-anxiety med, and then when I talked about the dizziness he prescribed an anti-depressant. I switched doctors right after that to one who helped me through it with NO meds.
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your secret is safe with me Puma ;)
Cap... it's amazing to find out that you were stressed when you didn't really think you were. My doc is a great guy. Salt of the earth type and all of that but he's dang quick to diagnose 'depression' and slap scripts in your hand. Like I said above there were way too many nights that I went to bed and found out the next day that I was wandering around spouting random nonsense and didn't remember ANY of it. And I was cutting the doses in halfs and quarters. I'm still dealing with insomnia to a small degree but I'll take that and the headaches over being completely out of control any day.
All of that aside anybody want to set a time to fly the kites tomorrow? Looks like we had some guys in but not enough numbers earlier today. Looks like a good opportunity for hilarity to ensue if we get enough of us in there..
I have a wacky idea. I wonder if we could do PT boat races one fine Sunday. KS off and race around a battlegroup. First one back to the port wins.... Nice de stressing exercise before hitting the M - F grind. Screen shots could be epic!!!!
well.....quite often, where doctors are concerned, i should be wearing one of these..... :noid
i basically don't like doctors, and don't trust em anymore. well.....2 i do. one is a customer, and a friend. he's a pediatrician. the other is a foot doctor..the one that took care of my infected toe(from an ingrown nail) last year. he also took care of the venous ulcer i had on my ankle.
so far, i've found both of them to honest.
my problem with dr's though, is that like you said....they're too quick to slap a presctiption. when i was a kid, the family doc. kept trying to get me to take some pills to "calm me down". grandmom would give them to me, i'd tuck it between my cheek and gum...when she wasn't looking, i'd spit it out. i was....and still am......hyper. big deal. is there REALLY anything wrong with a hyperactive kid?
they tried to give me a drug to make me pay attention in school, 'cause i used to daydream a lot. well....guess what.......the teachers were a little less exciting than watching the weeds grow in the driveway.
it's gotten worse now. can't sleep? takes this pill. can't get it up? take this pill. can't get up in the morning? take this pill. can't poop every day? take these pills.
my mom. she retired about 12 years ago. within 5 years, she was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. that's the one ya get from being overweight, and inactive. could the doc tell her she needed to do some walking, or maybe join a bowling league? nooooo....he friggin gives her pills.
she went for a colonostpy? i think it is? she's always nervous at those places. they hook ya up to monitoring things i presume.....they saw her heart rate go up high. they sent her to the er. scared her even worse. kept her there for 3 days, saying she needed to get "zapped" to put her heart back in rythem(admittedly, mom has less rythem than i do). thankfully, she didn't do that, although she listened to em about the blood thinners. they made her short of breath. she listened to me and stopped them.
just a week or so ago, they gave her another med for something or other......high heart rate again i think. it made her woozy. sounded like she had just smoked a joint,.
all of her high heart rate and diabetes problems would be solved, if only she'd do something.....but she won't listen to me or my brother, 'cause we don't have those certificates on the wall. we only have common sense to go on.
and my uncle(her brother 2 years younger than her) retired from ups. within 2 years, diagnosed with type 2. he joine a bowling league, and started golfing more. rather strangely, the diabetes went away.
i know there's times we need em, but seeing what i see, scares the crap outta me. by the time our kids are grown, there's not gonna be one single person not taking medication for somethgin or other.
sorry for the rant.........
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Monk,
Agree.. my doc is a friend of the family and ascribes to the 'better living through chemistry' motto. Well to be honest my former doc. Think highly of him but I'd prefer to be diagnosed rather than pumped full of pills that make me stupid(er).
In all seriousness he prescribed ambien on my ex wifes request and that's a nasty little drug. I've glossed over it to a degree but, when I was taking it, I did and said some things that I will carry the shame of to my grave. Quite honestly I'm surprised I didn't log on to the forums and, for once, unintentionally make a complete arse of myself. The proper drug for the proper issue is a good thing but just jerking out the pad and prescribing hard narcotics to someone without a thorough diagnosis AND FOLLOWUP is wrong and potentially dangerous to the patient and everyone around them.
Cap.. I know exactly where you're coming from. Both of my folks are pretty much way over weight. I've offered them advice as far as simple workouts and dietary suggestions. Problem is, until I start living it again, I'm kind of a hypocrite. Sadly, they won't listen even then, but they're happy and having fun and that's what it's all about IMHO.
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Monk,
Agree.. my doc is a friend of the family and ascribes to the 'better living through chemistry' motto. Well to be honest my former doc. Think highly of him but I'd prefer to be diagnosed rather than pumped full of pills that make me stupid(er).
In all seriousness he prescribed ambien on my ex wifes request and that's a nasty little drug. I've glossed over it to a degree but, when I was taking it, I did and said some things that I will carry the shame of to my grave. Quite honestly I'm surprised I didn't log on to the forums and, for once, unintentionally make a complete arse of myself. The proper drug for the proper issue is a good thing but just jerking out the pad and prescribing hard narcotics to someone without a thorough diagnosis AND FOLLOWUP is wrong and potentially dangerous to the patient and everyone around them.
Cap.. I know exactly where you're coming from. Both of my folks are pretty much way over weight. I've offered them advice as far as simple workouts and dietary suggestions. Problem is, until I start living it again, I'm kind of a hypocrite. Sadly, they won't listen even then, but they're happy and having fun and that's what it's all about IMHO.
well, the problem i have, is that as a teen, i was a complete and utter love muffin. i should've been thrown out of the house for some of the crap i did to mom, and as you said, i will carry the shame and regret of that to the day i die. i know i would never put up with some of the crap i did.......at least i never kilt anyone though, or got thrown in jail........
but...due to so many years of me being the total love muffin, mom starts to think i'm falling back into those ways. i never will. but she thinks so. i can't get it through her head that i don't want her to go(although i know that day has to come, there's no reason for her to rush it). i tried getting my brother to talk with her(he was never as bad as me as a kid), but she saw right through that........
one of the times i tried convincing her to walk, she cited "todays world" as a reason not to. i offered to walk with her, and offered to buy her a treadmill.....she wouldn't take either.
i'm almost thinking of bribing the doc. to tell her she needs to do some light exercise. that is all i think it'll take.......and within a year, i'd suspect she'd be on her way to not taking medications anymore.
""channel surf"" i would've logged in tonight, but primevial is on tonight, and i'm watching that as i do these posts. :aok
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first: sorry for the threadjack gents
second:
People seem to think that, in order to maintain a healthy lifestyle, they have to pump iron 2 hours a day and eat greens. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZRTTT TTTTTTTTTT WRONG!!!!
You can stay relatively healthy just walking at a brisk pace on a treadmill 30 minutes in the morning. You don't have to run and stress your knees, hips, and ankles. Just get up a little earlier, walk on the treadmill for 30 minutes and watch the news. When you get home in the afternoon do the same. Watch your diet. Some people can eat carbs all day long and never gain an ounce of fat. Then there are people like me that carbs stick to. It's all about personal body chemistry.
There are TONS of great recipes out there that are relatively low calorie / carb that are really good eating.
Cap, hopefully your folks will get it someday. If you weren't so far away I'd offer you a treadmill. I've got two..
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first: sorry for the threadjack gents
second:
People seem to think that, in order to maintain a healthy lifestyle, they have to pump iron 2 hours a day and eat greens. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZRTTT TTTTTTTTTT WRONG!!!!
You can stay relatively healthy just walking at a brisk pace on a treadmill 30 minutes in the morning. You don't have to run and stress your knees, hips, and ankles. Just get up a little earlier, walk on the treadmill for 30 minutes and watch the news. When you get home in the afternoon do the same. Watch your diet. Some people can eat carbs all day long and never gain an ounce of fat. Then there are people like me that carbs stick to. It's all about personal body chemistry.
There are TONS of great recipes out there that are relatively low calorie / carb that are really good eating.
Cap, hopefully your folks will get it someday. If you weren't so far away I'd offer you a treadmill. I've got two..
you are right about the exercise. i get mine at work.
it's just mom. i never knew dad...part of why i was such a salamander i think. glad i got over that, as now, although the entire family thought i was gonna be the one to be the "black sheep", i've turned it around, and am now a business owner. i'll never be rich from it though. i spend the money too fast. right now, i'm paying a landscaper to do the entire property, since i don't have time...and mom's staying here right now, so the property looks better for her.
thanks for the offer on the treadmill dude....... :aok
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Anytime Cap <S>
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Anytime Cap <S>
i should add......if ever we meet, the first brew is on me. if ya don't drink, then the first coke is. :aok
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Actually I just cut my intake back quite a bit.. but I'd be more than happy to accept your kind offer :salute Next round is on me :D
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AvA ideas to a doctor thread - talk about divergence! :bolt:
J
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AvA ideas to a doctor thread - talk about divergence! :bolt:
J
yea...that's my fault.
sorry guys......
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will the hijacker please step away from the keyboard! :lol
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whoops..sorry guys...
perhaps we need an AVA watermelon chat thread...LOL
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How about an AvA O'club? Doable? :joystick:
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I wish..
Staff is this doable?
Probably no but it's worth asking
Sometimes I just want to hear from my evil brethren in the AVA.
Oh wait.. am I a 'regular' yet? :lol Just checking cause I don't want to vocalize out my rectal orifice..
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i just got friggin home...no flying for me...not if i wanna get up for work tomorrow....
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let's get on tomorrow night. Somebody pick a time or post when you can get there and let's all fly kites tomorrow.. I'm thinking about Photoshopping Snoopy in a camel for chuckles...
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let's get on tomorrow night. Somebody pick a time or post when you can get there and let's all fly kites tomorrow.. I'm thinking about Photoshopping Snoopy in a camel for chuckles...
i don't think i have much to do after work tomorrow night. i'll try for 9'ish eastern? i should be on for the escort thing on tuesday(is that still a go?), but i have a meeting for my second job on wed., and will be working at that second job on thurs.