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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: perdue3 on October 09, 2010, 01:24:31 PM
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Top Pilots: Objects Destroyed
Spikes (Kommando Nowotny): 26
1Tundra1 (Kommando Nowotny): 24
TITAN312 (Jokers Jokers): 14
Rhah (Kommando Nowotny): 14
perdweeb (Kommando Nowotny): 11
J3WNAH (Kommando Nowotny): 10
Top Squads: Objects Destroyed
Kommando Nowotny: 85
Jokers Jokers: 14
~364th C-HAWKS FG~: 1
KN was assinged Ju 88s and we admittedly were not very pleased about this. Nonetheless we fulfilled our objective of attacking the CV group in 14.2 destroying 6 of 6 ships located there. We had a few things working against us from the start:
1. Fighter jocks in Bombers :D
2. My proposed plan for our Attack Group was abandoned by the Jokers resulting in the Jokers' annhilation before they reached the CV.
3. No escorts.
Our success came at the expense of the CHawks. They did a fine job of finding the CV group and keeping those fighters at bay while we made our way to boats. :salute CHawks
perdweeb
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Lol nice job.
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Top allied bomber squad was also a "fighter jock" unit, hehehe. We dabble, but it's not our speciality.
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Well I didn't hit a thing. Bombed a lot of fish.
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so you didn't follow orders and you hung the Jokers, the 801st and the Gamblers out to dry. Nice! Did you check in with the CIC? Next time you change the plan let everyone know.
gus
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Perdweebs big plan for the Jokers, as I heard it, was find the TG for us and only drop on the little ships, leaving the big stuff for him and his group. Period. Which had no bearing on our getting jumped by spits and F4F's one way or the other. In fact, he probably got his group in because we tied up a major portion of the CAP, killing 5 with our heavy 110's, while he got what escort support there was. So, I don't know what his whine is all about, but casting such aspirsions on other squads ain't constructive in the least.
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Perdweebs big plan for the Jokers, as I heard it, was find the TG for us and only drop on the little ships, leaving the big stuff for him and his group. Period. Which had no bearing on our getting jumped by spits and F4F's one way or the other. In fact, he probably got his group in because we tied up a major portion of the CAP, killing 5 with our heavy 110's, while he got what escort support there was. So, I don't know what his whine is all about, but casting such aspirsions on other squads ain't constructive in the least.
I think he was just saying you all wouldn't have died so quick if you went with us in.
But regardless we got the task completed and that is all that matters.
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KN was assinged Ju 88s and we admittedly were not very pleased about this.
Why not? Are you special?
1. Fighter jocks in Bombers :D
2. My proposed plan for our Attack Group was abandoned by the Jokers resulting in the Jokers' annhilation before they reached the CV.
3. No escorts.
What a bunch of sanctimonious twaddle! Your plan? And just who died and left you in charge? We had our orders and they didn't come from you little boy.
No matter. That was OK. We got jumped, and took the fighter CAP away so that you could get in. We had one pilot able to get ord out on the boat.
But your tone here is again, less than respecting in fellowship and definitely lacking in teamwork. Observing the way you conduct yourself publicly though; this comes as no surprise.
The next time I'm in the area you are, your getting a cap in your mouthy little face junior.
And if we need to be out of FSO because of it, so be it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<<S>> and wtg perdue and ur squad, congrats.
And Spite, no disrespect intended, but perdweeb didnt just make aplan on his own an said"this is how it is", we talked about it for abit before launch and we all agreed on the plan in attack group 1. ive known perdweeb for along time, heck, he was a squadie of mine for along time and is a great pilot and when u get to know him he's really cool.
So no one "died" and made him boss. The job was done and thats whats important.
WTG Axis, very nice work. and wtg NN and JJ's on all the damage u did. very nice.
<<S>> and im looking forward to flying w/ ya again in the future.
QcareCH
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less than respecting in fellowship and definitely lacking in teamwork.
Oh really? I seem to recall since we really had no specific orders regarding co-operation between Ju88s/110s, OR ESCORTS, Perdweeb talking to Busher trying to come to some idea of a plan (IE all of us going in together, you 110 guys hitting small vessels, us stuck in bombers hitting the CV).
Bushers exact quote: "you're breaking up can't receive you".....which, albeit, a fine attempt at humour, most DEFINITELY lacking in teamwork, as you accuse us. Film can be provided of said exchange. I even said to my squad that'd be the last we heard from the Jokers as they would just ignore any further attempts at comms (which you did), and then hit the CV group without us (again, which you did). My experience of flying with the Jokers previous to my 1st Afghanistan tour (Gman from hornets/assasins/etc) made this as sure as shooting, as I know how aggressive most guys in the Jokers were/are, and I even threw down a 100$ bet to everyone on vox at 2-1 that this is what you would do, and you did it.
Anyhow, don't get all rumpled thiking that we wanted you 110 guys to sacrifice yourselves for our bomb run, quite the opposite. You complain that we got an easy shot at the CV due to you taking the heat from the fighters, which is true in my opinion, and thanks, but if we had worked together and GONE IN together, you can bet us Ju88 guys would have taken the beating from the fighters, and you guys in 110s would have all hit ships, instead of just one, thus completing the mission. I'd have gladly flown into the fighters as I'd never even flown a Ju88 before yesterday, and taken the heat off you so you could hit the ships, as we could have outrun the fighters once jumped, and made it easy for you to hit the targets, as you ended up doing for us, although not by any plans made. When you act ignorantly by pretending you can't hear vox comms when making plans, expect to be treated the same.
Anyhow, <S> to the Chawks and the Jokers for their work in getting us through the Cap, I had a complete blast flying last night with everyone.
The next time I'm in the area you are, your getting a cap in your mouthy little face junior.
And if we need to be out of FSO because of it, so be it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha, ok, calm down and save the tough guy talk.
As an aside, I give a big <S> to Daddog et al for putting this frame together. In 11 years of flying Aces High, this was my first FSO, and was hands down the most fun I've had in the game that I can remember, partly due to the environment created by everyones hard work, and partly from being exposed to something new, a mission with bombers. I'll be highly recommending the experience to everyone I talk to regarding Aces High.
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If you read the orders it said "Attack Group One CO Kommando Nowotny" That means I am in charg yes?
And we were all in the tower when I gave my plan and suggested it. However, no one wanted to do it so we killed the boat by ourselves. But yes, a big part of that was due to the enemy fighter's being harassed. And we gave that proper credit. For the record, I meant nothing offensive in my post. Was just pointing out our disadvantages. And we are not special, just saying, we are not very good in bombers, thats why we were upset "Oh man, we got Ju 88s :(" That kinda thing.
801st we told ya where we were going, yall didnt follow my formation. Sorry if it seemed like we hng yall out :salute
In the end, it doesnt matter, the CV group died. WTG everyone.
perdweeb
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I think the best thing would be to lock this thread. No need for this kind of behavior in the sacred FSO forum. I meant nothing by anything in my first post. It was more of an "LOL guess what happened last night." I am usually not very innocent but this time, I am. If Jokers took it offensively (which they obviously did) I sincerely apologize and :salute them.
No need for flaming in FSO forum. Let's please bite our lips and leave it be. I said my apologies and I was sincere.
perdweeb
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I seem to recall being attacked by fighters Spite. I believe you encountered fighters, I'm just skeptical that they were capped for an extended period.
Was fun though. :banana: :banana: :banana:
(http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a427/DerJude/SexyJuTime.jpg)
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I am usually not very innocent but this time, I am. If Jokers took it offensively (which they obviously did) I sincerely apologize and salute them.
No need for flaming in FSO forum. Let's please bite our lips and leave it be. I said my apologies and I was sincere.
I feel your pain. ;)
I have learned over the years that how you intended your post means little. How it is interpreted means everything and its interpretation by the player depends on:
1. How much the player has had to drink.
2. How well they slept that night.
3. How much fun the player had in the last frame of FSO.
4. How things went with their wife that day.
Beyond that, once we hit (http://www.332nd.org/dogs/FSO/postbutton.jpg) it is out of our hands and therefore should not be of great concern. ;)
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Number 4 is by far the most important :D
perdweeb
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If you read the orders it said "Attack Group One CO Kommando Nowotny" That means I am in charg yes?
I had a great time in Frame 2. But, I have a great time in FSO whether I live for 5 minutes or two hours. I certainly don't mean to stir the pot any more than it has been. Mainly....well, because I don't care. I play this game to escape reality, not add more drama to it. However, I'd like to make a few points:
1) I don't believe the KN was Attack Group One CO, as perdweeb mentioned in the quote above. I copied and pasted the orders below. THIS could have been the miscommunication that caused the ruffling of feathers. If perdweeb thought that he was CO, and The Jokers didn't follow his instructions, I could see where he would be upset. The way that I read the orders, that wasn't the case.
2) The Jokers followed the orders given. We located, reported, and attacked the Carrier Group. We died. But, had fun doing it.
3) It's my $15. <S>
*Attack Group ONE:*
Jokers Jokers, CO TITAN312: Bf110G2 JABOS
Kommando Nowotny, CO perdweeb: Ju88A4 Formations
334^th FS The Eagles, CO Fencer: Bf109G6 Escort
Launch from A2, SW and fly south. There is a reported Carrier Fleet in
sector 14,2. Locate the Fleet, and ATTACK! 334^Th , stay ahead of the
group, you may spot an incoming attack group. DO NOT ENGAGE, but report
position to command. Also, spread out to find the Fleet when in 14,2.
RTB to the north west after attack, and give as much info to command for
second strike.
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Well I didn't hit a thing. Bombed a lot of fish.
They were whales, and it was terrifying :O
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Just fixing so that this applies to all ...
I feel your pain. ;)
I have learned over the years that how you intended your post means little. How it is interpreted means everything and its interpretation by the player depends on:
1. How much the player has had to drink.
2. How well they slept that night.
3. How much fun the player had in the last frame of FSO.
4. How things went with their hubby that day.
Beyond that, once we hit (http://www.332nd.org/dogs/FSO/postbutton.jpg) it is out of our hands and therefore should not be of great concern. ;)
Ok my job here is done. Carry on ...
:t
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Nice catch there SHY... :aok
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Perdue, IMO this entire post was unneccessary. It very simply looks like you coming on to just brag about how good you guys are. All squads have good and bad mission results. So ? You have no one but yourself to blame for the vitriolic responses. I was very dissappointed that you felt it neccessary to "bang your own drum". This forum normally has "congratulations" and "job well done" posts from one squad to another, not one squad to themselves.
I have always felt that you should give to the game more than you take. You failed.
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Perdue, IMO this entire post was unneccessary. It very simply looks like you coming on to just brag about how good you guys are. All squads have good and bad mission results. So ? You have no one but yourself to blame for the vitriolic responses. I was very dissappointed that you felt it neccessary to "bang your own drum". This forum normally has "congratulations" and "job well done" posts from one squad to another, not one squad to themselves.
I have always felt that you should give to the game more than you take. You failed.
Werd. Akin to naming his WW1 squad the same as mine, months after we established it...
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Perdue, IMO this entire post was unneccessary. It very simply looks like you coming on to just brag about how good you guys are.
Like it takes any effort to get your name (or squad's name) in lights for "Objects Destroyed" when all it takes is one bomb to hit a CV and you get 15-20 guns blown up.
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If you read the orders it said "Attack Group One CO Kommando Nowotny" That means I am in charg yes?
801st we told ya where we were going, yall didnt follow my formation. Sorry if it seemed like we hng yall out :s
perdweeb
Our orders where specific, we were to "loiter" and clean up anything that the main attack missed, NOT to be forced into being "cap magnets" so your group (which was supposed to go in first) could be hero's. As far as I am concerned you violated the rules of FSO and would be out of FSO for awhile, till you learned to FOLLOW orders, for me your no different than the squad that got kicked for chasing buffs without orders.
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Makes absolutely ZERO sence Box. If anything others violated the rules by your post, not us. We went as fast as we could to hit the fleet target once its CORDS were given to us. We did suggest going in together so we could hit the boat simultaneously, but were ignored by the Jokers. We followed the orders to the letter, and destroyed all 6 ships on our own.
Threatening to "have us kicked out" is not called for, it was my first FSO, and I did exactly what the orders given me said...also, what authority to have me banned do you have specifically.
The point of the OP was that we did FAR better than we expected being fighter guys, and were just excited as all get out over how it all turned out.
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Perdue, IMO this entire post was unneccessary. It very simply looks like you coming on to just brag about how good you guys are. All squads have good and bad mission results. So ? You have no one but yourself to blame for the vitriolic responses. I was very dissappointed that you felt it neccessary to "bang your own drum". This forum normally has "congratulations" and "job well done" posts from one squad to another, not one squad to themselves.
I have always felt that you should give to the game more than you take. You failed.
We were just excited about doing well when we rarely bomb together as a group and did not expect to do well. So we did beat our own drum did not expect to get post like yours. So really you can think anything you want. We have had top squad before and never said anything here. Some of you need to relax.
Werd. Akin to naming his WW1 squad the same as mine, months after we established it...
We were Jasta 2 we changed it back since you seem to have taken offense.
Like it takes any effort to get your name (or squad's name) in lights for "Objects Destroyed" when all it takes is one bomb to hit a CV and you get 15-20 guns blown up.
Thank you for your contribution did not know this little tid bit before.
Our orders where specific, we were to "loiter" and clean up anything that the main attack missed, NOT to be forced into being "cap magnets" so your group (which was supposed to go in first) could be hero's. As far as I am concerned you violated the rules of FSO and would be out of FSO for awhile, till you learned to FOLLOW orders, for me your no different than the squad that got kicked for chasing buffs without orders.
We followed orders and the plan we talked about in the tower before FSO. The "so your squad could be hero's" bit is ridiculous our job was to sink the CV and we did it.
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Well I have no reason YOU should be banned, you need to take that up with your CO who as far as I could tell didn't follow orders???
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Well I have no reason YOU should be banned, you need to take that up with your CO who as far as I could tell didn't follow orders???
Well take it up with a CM. Not going to argue it here any more.
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Don't think we violated orders. We took off, flew SE to avoid a slaughterhouse of fighters, then did our attack run and sank ships.
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Ok now that we're all fired up let's go beat the snot out of the Allies :rock
gus
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I think the best thing would be to lock this thread.
Perd asked me to post this on his behalf due to internet problems
Perdweeb: "Once again lock this thread, not gonna pollute this thread with flame baitning and other childish nonsense.
Think what you want, I did follow orders, so well in fact that we rearmed and went back and killed the last surviving boat at the cost of our favorite jew. Everything that I would have said has been mentioned already by sukov and tundra. Salute jokers, I meant nothing by my posts, and salute all those who are upset with me. This thread needs to be locked. As gusman said, lets kick the snot out of the allies in frame 3. Deutschland Uber Alles ~perdweeb"