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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: fdiron on June 23, 2000, 11:44:00 AM
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Last night I was taking off from A16 in my P38. The base was under heavy attack and there were about 5 plumes of heavy smoke rising from the field. As usual, my P38 lifts off with no problem so I level off at about 50 feet. I notice an enemy Panzer pulling into the hanger so I do a very low fly by and turn on my gun cam. My fps is too low to shoot him so I just do a few fly bys and then head on to find some bandits.
Later I on I heard that the same tank I flew by earlier scored 32 kills at the field killing my fellow country men who were despertely trying to taking off (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Turns out it is Ziegller. I believe this is a new record!
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That's my boy!
He is the 15-year-old son of one of my co-workers... and a quick study (no, I didn't teach him tanks!). Pretty nice guy, and someone to reckon with in the near future... or now! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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38 apparently is the tanker record.
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And everybody is OK with this?
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Back during World War II there was a German tanker ace named Whitman. While commanding a lone Tiger 1 tank, he attacked a british formation of tanks, jeeps and half tracks that were traveling along a road. He managed to kill 20+ of them. Therefor, it shouldnt be real hard to kill 20 or 30 paper skinned aircraft with a big 75mm gun.
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Easymo, c'mon man. I don't understand what you think would happen if a tank, at short range, with its cannon trained on the spawn point, is supposed to be able to do. If you could carry a 75mm HE round into the air, would you not expect to knock a buff out of the air with one hit?
I can respect that you hate the vehicles, but tell me how it is wrong that we need to be afraid of letting tanks near our bases. I'm beginning to think you don't want to see the point- that ground vehicles add a new dimension to the game, fleshing it out so that combat occurs from 30,000ft to sea level, and that while there are still some anomolies regarding performance vs real life, on the whole ground vehicles have enriched the whole experience for many (perhaps not you personally).
And yes, I am ok with this scenario, because he had to run the gauntlet to get there, most likely he died in the end, and if people don't want to watch the area near a base (when radar very clearly shows a threat) they get what they asked for.
Sorry for your kill streak being interrupted (from another thread), but you know, killing tanks counts as kills too. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Kieren (edited 06-23-2000).]
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Originally posted by easymo:
And everybody is OK with this?
I'm not going to say I'm ok or not ok. I will say that 32 kills at one field means 31 planes got killed for no other reason than the fact they did not destroy the enemy?
Fury
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Ok ... hey guys, hold it a bit. Some argue and have no idea what they are talking about. As leader of SFRT and Zieggler being one of my pilots, I asked Zieggler what happened, here is it's own description over an ICQ conversation:
" I was tanking a base with a friend named dan, i like to tank. The acks were down and a c47 was orbitting. I had no HE and neither did Dan so we could not take down vh. I saw 2 m16's on the field I took them out from long distance than i drove over to vh. I got to the position inside so enemy planes could not see me and so i was behind the tanks so they had to turn their cannons also if you hit the tank in the back, where there is a fuel tank, they blow up in one shot. So lots of people started coming out trying to kill c47's I killed them when they popped up. First it was random people and then 2 guys kept regenerating a lot, at the same time, so one could distract me, I killed them both
every time. When i finally ran out of ammo
i had about 20 tanks and planes up my butt
but i managed to escape and i just ditched,
too long of drive back and that is it "
Hummm, nowhere it's mentioned that he was killing airplanes. All I see is someone who fighted is way to the VH all to protect the landing goon. Not very sporty, but as effective that fighter pilots who vulch you on the runway while u try to airborne when ack is down.
Zie also as some merits as he fight to get in, fight to survive when tanks/M16's where spawning faster than he could kill them, and successfully escape <giggling hehehe>.
Please, stop squeaking the poor kid who simply did his job right.
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Olivier "Frenchy" Raunier
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[This message has been edited by SFRT - Frenchy (edited 06-23-2000).]
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Salute to Ziegller... last night when I logged on bish f20 was getting smashed flat by the knits.
Most folks are not aware that the best way to shut down an offensive is to raid the source fields assets.. the fuel, ammo and barracks.
I put out a call for a buff to strike at a17 while I hit a16. Ziegller immediatly answered, asked for instructions, and when he understood them he carried them out precisely; killing 3 attackers whilst leveling 17's assets. Mission accomplised and I believe he sucessfully completed an RTB after. This positive 'can do' attitude from a young gentleman in this enviornment was a pure breath of fresh air. We need more like him!
Salute again Ziegller.. wtg, and thanks for the team effort. I am not at all surprised to hear you went on to complete even more difficult assignments.. you impressed the hell outta me with that buff raid.....
WELL DONE; SIR!
Hang
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If he had been in a plane and vulched 32 ppl. There would be post,s all over this board.
Think about it. 1 tank can attack an airfield by himself successfully. I have never been overly concerned about realism. But come on, even on a gameplay level this aint gettin it.
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Easymo, it's as fair as buffs who kill the ack and drop down to vulch fighters poping up isn't it?
And Zie is awsome too as an individual, always polite, always ready to do something, and patient if needed to wait for teamates.
Only 15 but some of AH grumpy I know everything and I pay $30/month pilots could learn something from him.
Zie, Salute my friend, it's still a pleasure to have you in my squad. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Olivier "Frenchy" Raunier
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[This message has been edited by SFRT - Frenchy (edited 06-23-2000).]
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Yeah Z got 32 kills but they were the same 4 dweebs over and over again.
Go get em Z!
Yeager
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I've gotten 37 kills in a single tank sortie before. Better yet, I've gotten 5 main gun kills against aircraft in flight during a single tank run...and no, they weren't taking off...just being very stoopid when they attacked me.
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-Smut
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XO, The squealing Pigs
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"Oink! Oink! To War!"
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OH BTW. congrats on your streak zieg. My whine,s about gameplay isseues have nothing to do with your accomplishment.
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Easymo, the only reason you haven't seen anybody getting 32 kills in a plane vulching a field is because they eventually run out of ammo. If they had the equivalent killing power that a panzer has (80+ shells, each capable of killing a single plane), it would have happened already.
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Aegis
The Flying Pigs
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What a bunch of buffoons! LOL
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easymo..
A vultch is a vultch,we all do it. He just got better results in a tank (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I woulda done the same thing in his position.
Dog out...........
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Originally posted by Macboy:
What a bunch of buffoons! LOL
Speaking of which, don't you have a lawsuit you are supposed to be working on, MG? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Well, I just want to thank everyone who supported me, and a special thanks to Kieren, Frenchy, and Hangtime, some of my very good friends. I don't really think this should be a big deal, but I want to ask you all something. I was taking off to kill ack one day, and I saw a panzer firing at my base. I knew I would have some extra bombs, so I dropped a 250 on him. It killed him. After that, he made the remark, "Buff killing a Panzer, very lame!" Now, I know that this is just a game, but it is a "SIM," and do you think that in WWII they thought about what was lame and what was not? No they did not. It is all about self preservation, and what is best for the good of the war. I killed that Panzer because he was attacking my base. I killed those Panzers, because I was trying to win their base and keep myself alive as well as everyone on my team around the base. Should I have let them drive out and point their cannons at me before firing? No, because I wanted to stay alive. If I had done that, I would be dead, as well as the goons, and everyone's efforts for the base would have been for nothing. And I am sorry if I have done anything "lame" or "uncool," I was just having fun. =)
Thanks again to everyone who supported me. Have a good day/night everyone.
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You da man; zig.. kick ass; take names.
...and never apologize fer doin the job right. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Zieg, it's not the buff that's lame. If a panzer gets hit by a buff's egg, the panzer jock is pure lame-o (or tremendously unlucky).
You have come a long way since our last panzer raid on 27. <S>
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[This message has been edited by Voss (edited 06-25-2000).]