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Title: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on October 13, 2010, 12:36:21 PM
Let's see 'em! Rifles, pistols, shotguns, anything else that falls into the "other" category, what do you got?

I'm going to monitor this thread to make sure it doesn't get hijacked with politics so keep it on topic please.  Also, if you were wondering about the title, it's from this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU).


Primary concealed carry gun; Kahr PM40
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/2010-10-1312-20-16033.jpg)

Glock 19 (Gen 3)
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/2010-10-1312-22-09888.jpg)

Walther P22
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/2010-10-1312-24-14996.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: BMathis on October 13, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
Where's the "like" button?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: gunnss on October 13, 2010, 12:53:07 PM
But I hardly know you Sirrah. (Grin) :aok

Regards,
Kevin
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: captain1ma on October 13, 2010, 02:50:54 PM
pfft! weinie guns!
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on October 13, 2010, 02:54:06 PM
pfft! weinie guns!

Well, where are yours!?  :neener:
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Spikes on October 13, 2010, 03:03:24 PM
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s162/spikesx/IMG_2369.jpg?t=1287000138)
From L to R:
Browning BPS 10ga, Mossberg 500 12ga, JC Higgins 12ga, Remington 870 (LH) 12ga, Remington 870 12ga, Remington Model 700 Muzzleloader, Winchester Model 70 .308, Remington Model 7400 .270, Remington Model 7600 .270, (Off Brand) .30-30, (Off Brand) .22, Savage Arms .22
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Seraphim on October 13, 2010, 04:52:29 PM
Spike's Tactical / VLTOR

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/diamondshark/AR-15/DSCN3440.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Coshy on October 13, 2010, 05:08:06 PM
I've got to get in on this.

Pics of a recent range trip preparation:

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238/CoshyX3/To%20the%20range/IMG_2629.jpg)

Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on October 13, 2010, 05:30:29 PM
Spike's Tactical / VLTOR

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/diamondshark/AR-15/DSCN3440.jpg)

Nice, may I ask you how much that ran you?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Slash27 on October 13, 2010, 05:33:47 PM
An arm and a leg!!  :D My guess is around the $3k mark.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Nefarious on October 13, 2010, 06:58:11 PM
I've got to get in on this.

Details on the M44 please.

I will post a updated pic of my collection, I've added a few since the last time I posted my collection.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 07:20:43 PM
Are multiple pictures allowed?

Both AR's are custom built by yours truly...from quality components...

Larue, Global Tactical (Denny), Noveske, Daniel Defense, Young, Giessel, PRS, Magpul, Troy, Gas Buster...etc

 :salute

(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/gun/gun1.png)

Heckler & Koch USP Compact 45's, Winchester Black Talon rounds
(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/gun/gun2.png)

(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/gun/gun3.png)

(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/gun/gun4.png)

If you have guns you need bullets and cases...

6000 55 grain Hornady FMJBT...in one bucket...

(I crank on a Dillon 1050)

(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/gun/gun5.png)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 07:37:30 PM
Spike's Tactical / VLTOR

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/diamondshark/AR-15/DSCN3440.jpg)

This is a guy who knows how to build an AR...

Note the detail of the pin restrainers from KNS...and the dot sight on top of the Trijicon..hell he even has a Gas Buster charging handle and what appears to be PR front folder...

It is that attention to detail that separates the wheat from the chaff...

Nice rig

<S>
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Seraphim on October 13, 2010, 07:43:28 PM
Nice, may I ask you how much that ran you?


Without accessories it cost me about 1600.  It's actually my 4th AR, but my 1st complete build from all parts.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Masherbrum on October 13, 2010, 07:46:25 PM
This is my HK USP 45 (Full-Size) that is a joy to shoot.   I've even put lead through it, without fail (except 2 rounds of PMC Ammo purchased and exchanged at the Local Range as they were not seated properly from the Manu.).

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/Aces%20High/HK.jpg)

My SigArms SHR-970 in 30-06 for hunting Bambi looks like this, but with a Redfield Scope that is very bright:
(http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000448/448004.jpg)

Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 07:51:42 PM
Without accessories it cost me about 1600.  It's actually my 4th AR, but my 1st complete build from all parts.


Congratulations on the build...where did you get the barrel from?...what twist (1.9 ?)

Building them from scratch is way way way better than buying an off the shelf custom...

I have 7 of them and all of them are ground up builds...some on the budget end...others no budget...like that gun with the scope...

That thing prints close to a single MOA with hand loads (77 grain HPBT Sierra Match Kings)...that is my SPR/SDM sporting a an 18" tube at 1:7 from Denny...

Deadly accurate out to 500 meters

I love guns....

Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 07:58:01 PM
Masher you put the same slip on rubber grip thing that I have on my HK's...

Would you agree those things make all the difference in grip and feel...

I love those slip on's and even have back up units ready to go when needed...
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Seraphim on October 13, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
The barrel is Daniel Defense 16" 1:7 twist, chrome lined. I added the muzzle from Yankee hill, but I should've went with the Vortex like yours  :aok

I actually had to sell one of mine & my 6.8mm upper to build this one, but it was worth it, and fun as hell.

P.S. are those the pinned mags?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Spikes on October 13, 2010, 08:01:48 PM

I love guns....

And the 2nd amendment of course! :)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Blooz on October 13, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
(http://www.m1arifle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/m1a-rifle-300x112.gif)
Springfield M1A
(http://www.riflenotes.com/images/M1-Carbine.jpg)
National Postal Meter M1 Carbine
(http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/untitled-2.jpg)
Ithaca model 37
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__KONc6M3jls/Sx3cDFGSq4I/AAAAAAAAA7o/UfFqxzyNP6M/S230/springfieldarmory1911a1+001.JPG)
Springfield 1911a1
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 08:18:56 PM
The barrel is Daniel Defense 16" 1:7 twist, chrome lined. I added the muzzle from Yankee hill, but I should've went with the Vortex like yours  :aok

I actually had to sell one of mine & my 6.8mm upper to build this one, but it was worth it, and fun as hell.

P.S. are those the pinned mags?

The mag on the SPR is a 20 round mag pinned to 10 rounds...my state sucks...the gun looks gay when you use standard 10 rounders so I got some 20's from Brownell and pinned them...and put the Magpul floors on...

Can you spot the other anomaly in image 3? that is also a compliance issue?...its a subtle rule, but overt in the image...

Oneway
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: USRanger on October 13, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
This is a guy who knows how to build an AR...

Note the detail of the pin restrainers from KNS...and the dot sight on top of the Trijicon..hell he even has a Gas Buster charging handle and what appears to be PR front folder...

It is that attention to detail that separates the wheat from the chaff...

Nice rig

<S>


(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1761/ohyeahx.jpg) (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/ohyeahx.jpg/)

 ;)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on October 13, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
I have 7 of them


 :O  Whoa!  Mind if I borrow one for a year or two while I'm saving for mine?  :D

Seriously though, I'll have to talk with you sometime.  I'm slowly saving up for an Ar-15, but it can be a little overwhelming looking at all the options.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 08:25:07 PM

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1761/ohyeahx.jpg) (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/ohyeahx.jpg/)

 ;)

Are you just having fun Ranger?

I hope so...

I think so...
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Seraphim on October 13, 2010, 08:27:19 PM
The mag on the SPR is a 20 round mag pinned to 10 rounds...my state sucks...the gun looks gay when you use standard 10 rounders so I got some 20's from Brownell and pinned them...and put the Magpul floors on...

Can you spot the other anomaly in image 3? that is also a compliance issue?...its a subtle rule, but overt in the image...

Oneway


Yea, the prince 50 button. I totally hate that. I went with the bullet button for mine, but still gay. I went with the pmags, they were installed with a block to 10 so it's not too obvious.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Seraphim on October 13, 2010, 08:34:26 PM
Here's my Stag arms / spikes 24" bull.
I had to use my carbines lower for the pic, because I had to wait the stupid 10 days for the current lower on it.

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/diamondshark/AR-15/DSCN3442.jpg)


Love the accessorizing Ranger.  ;)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: phatzo on October 13, 2010, 08:45:30 PM
F N 30-06
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/30-06.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: redman555 on October 13, 2010, 08:46:08 PM
Ive only got a 12 guage for when I do trap/skeet :)


(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee239/bigbobCH/mygun-1.jpg)


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: oneway on October 13, 2010, 08:46:14 PM
I like guns

500 yard 12" x 18" suspended/swinging steel plate...at 12x magnification

Note the steel spinner target at 4 o'clock at 250 yards

How would you like to be sitting in the saddle with this sight picture loaded up with hand load 77 grain Sierra's ...and when you squeeze off it takes about 1 second from release to audible feedback from the plate ringing like a bell?...because light travels faster than sound....you can see the plate swing before you get the audible feedback...

That is rich....crack!!!..delay.....swing....gong!

(http://www.cadframers.com/ah/gun/gun6.png)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: redman555 on October 13, 2010, 08:49:14 PM
And your lucky Jayhawk...stupid cali doesn't get concealed..


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: opposum on October 13, 2010, 09:51:58 PM


Here is my .50 cal up against my sisters dog:

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/opposum_01/IMG_4758.jpg?t=1287024593)


LOL


opposum



Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: redwing7 on October 13, 2010, 09:53:28 PM
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr294/redwingsfan4/gun2.jpg)
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr294/redwingsfan4/gun.jpg)
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr294/redwingsfan4/gun1.jpg)

.270 winchester

Dougles barrel, Mauser Santa Barbera reciever, glass bedded, hand carved stock.

Hand  made for my grandfather back in the 70's.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: USRanger on October 13, 2010, 10:10:55 PM
And for those on a budget:

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3347/swissarmyassaultrifle.jpg) (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/swissarmyassaultrifle.jpg/)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Tupac on October 13, 2010, 10:11:21 PM
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/dcwdavid/12295abd.jpg?t=1287025509)


Top to bottom

Weatherby stainless 30/06
Finnish Model M39 (1940 refurb year)
Russian M91/30 (1942)
Russian M38/59 (1940)
Polish M44 (1954)
Finnish M39 with a nice tigerstripe pattern (1940 refurb year)

All the mosin nagants are 7.62x54r
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: mtnman on October 13, 2010, 10:21:37 PM
Sure, why not...

Here's one I scratch-built, with a barrel a friend of mine made-

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/Picture043-1.jpg)

And a few I built from plans and parts (not really "kits")-

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/DSC_0272.jpg)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/DSC_0271.jpg)

Video links to see how slow the flintlock ignites (real time, and then slowed down to 1/4 speed, because it's cool!)-
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/th_Flintlockrealtime.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/?action=view&current=Flintlockrealtime.flv)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/th_Flinlock25.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/?action=view&current=Flinlock25.flv)

This one is from a kit-
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/DSC_0267.jpg)

And of course, I don't limit myself to just the new-fangled items, here's another set I built-
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/DSC_0001.jpg)

And of course, I use them in the field too-
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/Picture008.jpg)
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/Picture005.jpg)

And in competition-
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Mtnman_03/AdamsRendezvous-1.jpg)

I also have some modern firearms; Winchester Model 70 .270, Remington 870 Wingmaster 12ga, Remingtom 700 BDL 22-.250, .22/.22Mag revolver, .38 revolver, .22 LR lever action, etc, I just don't take pictures of those.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: redman555 on October 13, 2010, 11:04:47 PM
WOW! MtnMan actually looks like a MtnMAN!!!!  :O    :lol

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on October 14, 2010, 01:06:29 AM

Here is my .50 cal up against my sisters dog:

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/opposum_01/IMG_4758.jpg?t=1287024593)


LOL


opposum





 :rofl
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Pigslilspaz on October 14, 2010, 01:15:51 AM
Here's mine

(http://stevejencks.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/nerf-n-strike-vulcan.jpg)

2 that i modded
(http://www.ninjavspenguin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/steampunk-nerf-guns.jpeg)

and here's the first one after I modified it as well with some others

(http://media.techeblog.com/images/nerfguns.jpg)

one last one

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs12/f/2006/341/e/6/Nerf_Longshot_by_tigersharkiv.jpg)


my firepower is unstoppable, you are unable to compare
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Larry on October 14, 2010, 04:49:25 AM
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/dcwdavid/12295abd.jpg?t=1287025509)


Top to bottom

Weatherby stainless 30/06
Finnish Model M39 (1940 refurb year)
Russian M91/30 (1942)
Russian M38/59 (1940)
Polish M44 (1954)
Finnish M39 with a nice tigerstripe pattern (1940 refurb year)

All the mosin nagants are 7.62x54r


Nice collection of Nagants. I have a 1943 M91/30 myself that I love to shoot. I'm hoping one day to get a PU scope so I can go all Vasily Zaytsev on some deer.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Plawranc on October 14, 2010, 04:57:43 AM
Well, I do not own them, but they are used on AAFC shoots. So....

(http://fr3aky.itaustralia.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/0001.jpg)

F-88 Austeyer

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Lee-Enfield_Rifle.jpg)

Lee Enfield - 303 Bolt

And, if I ever move to the US (which I am considering)

(http://www.oneshotonline.com/store/images/25012.jpg)

Remmington 870 Marine Magnum, I am a Shotgun type of guy  :rock
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Larry on October 14, 2010, 08:07:17 AM
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/guns.bmp)
1943 M91/30 Mosin-Nagant, Mossberg 500, 12ga (no clue what type), .410 (again no clue who made it), and a Mossberg .22LR
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: DEECONX on October 14, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Here is me shooting my Enfield.  :aok

(http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/yy134/Kassill1/shootingmyenfield.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Vulcan on October 14, 2010, 04:42:20 PM
And, if I ever move to the US (which I am considering)

Just to rub salt in the wound, iirc as a non US citizen you will not be allowed to own firearms :D

Bwahahahah <points and laughs at aussies>
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: 1pLUs44 on October 14, 2010, 05:02:11 PM
Well, I do not own them, but they are used on AAFC shoots. So....

(http://fr3aky.itaustralia.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/0001.jpg)

F-88 Austeyer

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Lee-Enfield_Rifle.jpg)

Lee Enfield - 303 Bolt

And, if I ever move to the US (which I am considering)

(http://www.oneshotonline.com/store/images/25012.jpg)

Remmington 870 Marine Magnum, I am a Shotgun type of guy  :rock

Lee Enfield is probably my favorite gun to shoot. Got 2 No. 1 Mk III's, ones a 1917 made in England (Not too sure if the exact place where it was manufactured is next to the bolt or not, I think it just says "GB" with the crown on it.), the other's a 1941 Lithgow. At 200 yards, I can shoot about a 6 inch group with the '41 Lithgow in 2 mags.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: JOACH1M on October 14, 2010, 08:56:55 PM

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1761/ohyeahx.jpg) (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/ohyeahx.jpg/)

 ;)
Ranger may i ask how heavy that thing is
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: 5anders on October 15, 2010, 01:06:50 AM
All of my babies were recently stolen.   :cry
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Nilsen on October 15, 2010, 03:04:00 AM
All of my babies were recently stolen.   :cry

If you find the thief shoot him in the toe .... oh wait :D First go borrow a gun and then shoot him in the toe  ;)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Plawranc on October 15, 2010, 03:27:58 AM
Just to rub salt in the wound, iirc as a non US citizen you will not be allowed to own firearms :D

Bwahahahah <points and laughs at aussies>

You do realise I meant, BECOMING an American?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Charge on October 15, 2010, 03:33:01 AM
Finnish Model M39 (1940 refurb year)
Finnish M39 with a nice tigerstripe pattern (1940 refurb year)

U know a story tells that when they started scrapping those rifles the guys who run the weapons depot had a handpicked lot that had better tolerances than "standard" rifles which they saved for the last and a lot of these were sold abroad, mostly to US, but the rest got scrapped. I hope you have one or two of those gems.

-C+
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Vulcan on October 15, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
You do realise I meant, BECOMING an American?

I don't think they take aussies, I think they have some sort of umm... standards?  :devil
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: phatzo on October 15, 2010, 04:34:12 PM
I don't think they take aussies, I think they have some sort of umm... standards?  :devil
I think its something about being located so close to New Zealand
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on October 15, 2010, 04:37:28 PM
I don't think they take aussies, I think they have some sort of umm... standards?  :devil

 :lol
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: USRanger on October 15, 2010, 06:08:44 PM
Ranger may i ask how heavy that thing is

Was just a joke pic.  :D 
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Plawranc on October 16, 2010, 06:49:06 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Tupac on October 16, 2010, 08:39:20 AM
IN!
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Viperius on October 16, 2010, 01:42:30 PM
SIG SG550/II Military Assault Rifle

(http://www.damatriks.de/Der_Streit/asgs/550_1.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on October 16, 2010, 02:05:38 PM
SIG SG550/II Military Assault Rifle

(http://www.damatriks.de/Der_Streit/asgs/550_1.jpg)

Wow... You own it?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: mensa180 on October 16, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
I believe the Swiss are allowed to keep their military arms after they leave service?  Great for national defense I'm sure :).
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Viperius on October 16, 2010, 03:57:18 PM
Ye every swiss soldier keeps his rifle at home. After finishing your service you can decide to keep it but they take out the full auto and triple shot setting.

We used to have a sealed container with 50 live rounds too(for use in war time only, to make it to the nearest base) but they discontinued this.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Coshy on October 16, 2010, 08:08:23 PM
Details on the M44 please.

I will post a updated pic of my collection, I've added a few since the last time I posted my collection.

Sorry for the late reply, I missed it.

The M44 is of 1945 vintage. It was purchased by my wife at a pawnshop for $180, it was a Christmas gift last year.

Functionally the gun is in good shape. However the "restoration artist" who had it before me removed ALL the bluing on the exposed metal. Judging by the depth of the scratches, he used 100 grit sand paper. The stock received a similar "treatment".

The bore and rifling is in good shape and it has not been counter-bored. At 75 yards I've managed 3 inch groups off a sand-bag rest.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: DEECONX on October 16, 2010, 09:56:48 PM
Ye every swiss soldier keeps his rifle at home. After finishing your service you can decide to keep it but they take out the full auto and triple shot setting.

We used to have a sealed container with 50 live rounds too(for use in war time only, to make it to the nearest base) but they discontinued this.


Wow, that is something new to me! Very cool! Bet it's a blast to shoot  :aok
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Post by: ROX on October 17, 2010, 02:02:27 PM
Mine is a 45 cal Tanfoglio Witness ACP.

I've had .38's, 9's, before...have become very comfortable with the Witness.

The Chinese Army 9mm was by far the worst I have ever fired. 

Sorry, no pics.


ROX
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: IamSalem on December 26, 2010, 10:36:35 PM
Bumping this awesome thread with my newly aquired Yugoslavian SKS M59/66

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/IamSalem/nathanssks.jpg)

(I know, I know, I just love posting this picture  :D)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on December 26, 2010, 11:46:27 PM
Well worth the resurrection of the favorite thread I've ever started.

3rd time I've seen the picture... but I'm okay with that.... I like guns.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: fbWldcat on December 27, 2010, 05:36:46 AM
Mntman, looks like a 6 pt non-typical? What did that buck score?

Some great looking guns here! All I have is a bunch of .22s and one double barrel 12 gauge (warped barrel, unuseable [I wasn't the one taking care of it ;) ])

I'm thinking about getting a Mossberg 500 12 gauge or a .223/12 gauge Remington.

Which one should I get? I'm thinking the Remington since it would be more versatile for Turkey and Whitetails and even Coyote and Pheasant.
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Post by: Shifty on December 27, 2010, 10:25:34 AM
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1436/gunsh.png)

The M1 on top is mine. The M14 below it belongs to my son.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 27, 2010, 10:37:23 AM
Springfield 1991 Milspec, that I somehow conceal on my skiny body.
(http://deepsouthguns.com/dsguns/images/PB9108L.gif)

WASR AK47
(http://i49.tinypic.com/xfzwbn.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: KgB on December 27, 2010, 10:45:25 AM
Is that weird to have a bonner just by looking at these pics?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: mbailey on December 27, 2010, 10:46:21 AM
I have way to many, I work / worked at a local gun shop / indoor range part time to support my habit. Just fill in now and then at present.

My newest, got this to match up with my P7M13

P7M8

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/IMG_1495.jpg)

Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: mtnman on December 27, 2010, 11:27:57 AM
Mntman, looks like a 6 pt non-typical? What did that buck score?

I'm not sure what it scored, although I guess I could go measure it (I boiled it out for a euro-mount).  It's not very big, it wouldn't score very well.  It's a six-point (eastern count).  The right G3 is broken, but is still about 1.5" long.  It was the last day of muzzle-loader season.  I worked a 12hr night-shift, then climbed into my stand, dog-tired.  It was much colder than it appears in the photo, and windy.  I was suffering from Bell's Palsy at the time, so my entire face on my right side was numb, and my eye wouldn't close or blink, so it was watering constantly.  That buck came out, and I wasn't in the mood to wait for a better one...

The "coolest" thing about it that I remember was a sweet 75yd shot that passed through the buck (.530 round ball), bounced off the frozen ground, and ricocheted into the frozen trees beyond.

It scored a 10/10 on the dinner table though!  My family generally goes through 4-6 whitetails per year.  My kids used to think beef was gross, and the only way we could get them to eat it was to tell them it was venison, lol!

I'm thinking about getting a Mossberg 500 12 gauge or a .223/12 gauge Remington.

Which one should I get? I'm thinking the Remington since it would be more versatile for Turkey and Whitetails and even Coyote and Pheasant.

IMO, the .223 is awful small for whitetails.  It'll kill them every time with a well-placed shot, but won't be very forgiving of any errors in shot placement (or judgment) at all.  I'd recommend a plain ol' 12 gauge (I'm partial to my Rem 870 Wingmaster) before I'd recommend the combo.  The 12 is already a "combo" in its own right.  It's good for anything from clay pigeons and doves, up to geese and turkeys.  It'll be fine for coyotes and foxes too.  With slugs, it's great for deer out to 80yds or so.  With an add-on rifled barrel (especially with a scope) it'll be good to 150 for deer.  A 12ga is probably one of the most versatile, day-in and day-out firearms you can find.  I prefer the pump over the auto; for simplicity, reliability, and ease of cleaning and care.  It's probably not as good for deer though.

Mossberg is rated fairly well, also, I've just never liked them.  I don't like the way they look, or the way the action feels and sounds.  I know people who have them and love them though.  It's just a personal preference.

If you want a rifle for deer, I'd buy one separately.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: fbWldcat on December 27, 2010, 12:42:12 PM
.223 may need an accurate shot but I'm one of the best shots in my class (I live in KY, half the kids hunt). (I didn't mean to toot my own horn  :uhoh )

Okay, so if I get a 12 gauge, what should I try to get next as a rifle? I had always been thinking about a 30-06, a 30-30 or a .308 Winchester.

I was also looking into.... This baby
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-xcr.aspx (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-xcr.aspx) Remington is always reliable.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: IamSalem on December 27, 2010, 03:19:35 PM
.223 may need an accurate shot but I'm one of the best shots in my class (I live in KY, half the kids hunt). (I didn't mean to toot my own horn  :uhoh )

Okay, so if I get a 12 gauge, what should I try to get next as a rifle? I had always been thinking about a 30-06, a 30-30 or a .308 Winchester.

I was also looking into.... This baby
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-xcr.aspx (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-xcr.aspx) Remington is always reliable.

30-06 has Always been one of my favourite rounds. I say if it saw America through two world wars, it must be good. 308 is also a good one.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Larry on December 27, 2010, 03:36:21 PM
Hi-Point Model CF380 that I picked up for $140 for Christmas.



(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733//Untitled-1.bmp)
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733//Untitled-4575343.bmp)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 03:53:10 PM
I've got to get in on this.

Pics of a recent range trip preparation:

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238/CoshyX3/To%20the%20range/IMG_2629.jpg)



is that by chance a mosin nagant?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Larry on December 27, 2010, 04:08:28 PM
is that by chance a mosin nagant?

Yes, it looks to be a M44.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Tyrannis on December 27, 2010, 04:17:52 PM
Yes, it looks to be a M44.

i would gladly trade my 10 round lee enfield .303 for that mosin nagant  :aok mine was built in the u.s tho in 1943 it says  :headscratch:
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Larry on December 27, 2010, 05:31:53 PM
You can find one on gunbroker.com for around $100. That's where I got my 1943 91/30 for $85.
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Post by: Becinhu on December 27, 2010, 05:40:07 PM
I need to get pics of mine...
early 1900s Winchester Model 37 red letter 12 ga single shot
early 1900s Savage Model 94C .410 single shot
Marlin Model 60 .22 (scoped) best shot was headshot on bushytail at 90 yards.
Marlin Glenfield model 30A .30-30
Winchester model 70 .30-06 (broke wood stock this summer, now has black syn stock)
newest 1922 Mosin-Nagant M91 (hex receiver)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: IamSalem on December 27, 2010, 08:45:23 PM
Went to the farm today to do some shooting in the snow. We pulled out the rifles and gave a good cleaning. From left to right My dads, .303 Enfield, Mosin Nagant with the Hex, Egyptian Maadi Ak-47, and lastly my Yugo SKS.

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/IamSalem/guns.jpg)

We didnt take the 303 at the last minute but took the rest. Mosin and AK fired really good (infact, I really want  mosin now) and my new SKS, well, seems I am going to need to field strip it and get the cosmoline out of the bolt and bolt carrier. She fired good, but didnt eject the shell. So, tomorrow will take it all apart and give it a thorough thorough cleaning in and out. Wish I had known that before we went out. Oh well, lesson learned I guess.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Motherland on December 27, 2010, 09:09:20 PM
I want a Nagant soo bad.... :X

Those 440 round surplus tins for $100... oh my...  :cry
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on December 27, 2010, 09:11:03 PM
I want a Nagant soo bad.... :X

Those 440 round surplus tins for $100... oh my...  :cry

I'm getting one as soon as I get home :D
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Mustaine on December 27, 2010, 09:25:20 PM
Larry, how's that hi-Point? I was looking into them a while back, and still am... I hear it is a real "usable" gun, shooting easy, and you can put a boatload of rounds through it.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: VonKost on December 27, 2010, 09:34:25 PM
Best thread ever! Here is about half my hardware that resides in an undisclosed location!  :noid

My Chinese SVD and Romanian RPK, beside my cool cowboy pillow case
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/015.JPG)

M1 Carbine, Yugo SKS and Yugo Underfolder AK
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 003.jpg)

G3
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 005.jpg)

Bushmaster m4 and Berretta (traded them both away though)
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 008.jpg)

M1 (With the SVD this is my favorite), No4 Enfield, 24/47 Mauser 8mm.
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 012.jpg)]

Mosin Nagants 91/20, m38 and m44.
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 017.jpg)

Dang, now I gotta get more pics of the rest.

This thread wins
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on December 27, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
Best thread ever! Here is about half my hardware that resides in an undisclosed location!  :noid

My Chinese SVD and Romanian RPK, beside my cool cowboy pillow case
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/015.JPG)

M1 Carbine, Yugo SKS and Yugo Underfolder AK
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 003.jpg)

G3
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 005.jpg)

Bushmaster m4 and Berretta (traded them both away though)
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 008.jpg)

M1 (With the SVD this is my favorite), No4 Enfield, 24/47 Mauser 8mm.
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 012.jpg)]

Mosin Nagants 91/20, m38 and m44.
(http://www.444thbombgroup.com/images/pics/Picture 017.jpg)

Dang, now I gotta get more pics of the rest.

This thread wins

I... hate you. I cannot recall the last time I felt such instant and passionate jealousy...
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Motherland on December 27, 2010, 10:04:40 PM
Got a couple of questions about Mosin Nagants, I might honestly try to buy one, this thread is filling me with desire...

I've noticed some (M44's mainly) with laminated stocks, honestly love the look, but is this a factory thing or are these refurbished/later?

Also, this goes for a lot of service rifles I've seen, people don't seem to like to use the attached cleaning rods, why is this?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on December 27, 2010, 10:07:20 PM
Got a couple of questions about Mosin Nagants, I might honestly try to buy one, this thread is filling me with desire...

I've noticed some (M44's mainly) with laminated stocks, honestly love the look, but is this a factory thing or are these laminated?

Also, this goes for a lot of service rifles I've seen, people don't seem to like to use the attached cleaning rods, why is this?

I've got a whole thread on the Nagant since I'm buying one soon, and a great resource is 7.62x54r.net its a website devoted just to the Mosin Nagant.

IIRC, the Nagants are laminated by the factory to strengthen and preserve the rifle. As far as not using the attached cleaning rods, I would think it would be just to preserve the overall equipment, and keep all parts in the best condition possible.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Motherland on December 27, 2010, 10:11:18 PM
IIRC, the Nagants are laminated by the factory to strengthen and preserve the rifle.
I'm not talking about the cosmoline, laminated wood construction is something you can see a lot of in later Soviet designs... it's like plywood, kind of, they take bunch of 1/8" or so thick slices of wood and stick them together at opposing grains and then cut the stock out of that, as opposed to a solid brick of wood. I find a picture.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tQdkRE-vP4k/R7js3wakFNI/AAAAAAAAAPg/9lbhQAWrnC0/s400/laminate.JPG)
Obnoxious example with alternating layers dyed, just for the sake of making it easy to see.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: VonKost on December 27, 2010, 10:11:25 PM
Got a couple of questions about Mosin Nagants, I might honestly try to buy one, this thread is filling me with desire...

I've noticed some (M44's mainly) with laminated stocks, honestly love the look, but is this a factory thing or are these laminated?

Also, this goes for a lot of service rifles I've seen, people don't seem to like to use the attached cleaning rods, why is this?

The laminated looks the best, but they were put on usually post-war during a rebuild or as a replacement. I have not bought a new mosin in a while, but if I was, I'd get a laminated on looks alone.

The first gun I ever bought was a Vietnam bringback chinese M44. I wish I still had it.

And I always use the cleaning rods if I have the cleaning kit. ;)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Blooz on December 27, 2010, 10:13:51 PM
Also, this goes for a lot of service rifles I've seen, people don't seem to like to use the attached cleaning rods, why is this?

Most military cleaning rods are steel. These wear in the bore while cleaning. It's better to use aluminum rod or a nylon string pull through for cleaning to prevent wear.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Motherland on December 27, 2010, 10:22:27 PM
Thanks for the answers :aok
I'll keep that stuff in mind...
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Post by: Guppy35 on December 27, 2010, 10:26:52 PM
OK I'll play too.  These are the toys in the house at present.  There used to be a couple more AKs.  My oldest son was a real AK fanatic and historian.  I had an M1 Carbine at one point and then an M1A but sold both of those.  I like KISS AR15s so both the ARs are A1 uppers, one a Bushmaster and the other a DPMS.  DPMS is local in Minnesota and some good folks to deal with.

The AKs were my sons and are a PKMS underfolder built on a Polish kit, and a Krebs Custom AK-74.   I've got my son's Springfield Milspec 1911 as well and a couple more PKMS kits waiting to be built someday.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/IMG_1787.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/IMG_1786.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Larry on December 27, 2010, 10:46:54 PM
Larry, how's that hi-Point? I was looking into them a while back, and still am... I hear it is a real "usable" gun, shooting easy, and you can put a boatload of rounds through it.


I just got it a few days ago so Iv only put about 80 rounds through it. Its real easy to shoot and once I got mine sighted in it was shooting very tight groups from 20ft. This was my first hand gun so I wanted to buy something cheap. If its not to cold tomorrow Ill go shoot a few rounds and post the target.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: KgB on December 27, 2010, 10:58:15 PM
Just to rub salt in the wound, iirc as a non US citizen you will not be allowed to own firearms :D

Bwahahahah <points and laughs at aussies>
Its not true.  I disagree with that but as long as you legal resident of USA you allowed to purchase/own firearms, citizenship is not required.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: VonKost on December 27, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
OK I'll play too.  These are the toys in the house at present.  There used to be a couple more AKs.  My oldest son was a real AK fanatic and historian.  I had an M1 Carbine at one point and then an M1A but sold both of those.  I like KISS AR15s so both the ARs are A1 uppers, one a Bushmaster and the other a DPMS.  DPMS is local in Minnesota and some good folks to deal with.

The AKs were my sons and are a PKMS underfolder built on a Polish kit, and a Krebs Custom AK-74.   I've got my son's Springfield Milspec 1911 as well and a couple more PKMS kits waiting to be built someday.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/IMG_1787.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/IMG_1786.jpg)

Nice, I hate Ar's with crap all over em!
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Nefarious on December 28, 2010, 07:06:59 AM
Nice Rifles everyone! Guppy, VonKost.

I know I said I would get some pics, but I've been busy. I have Friday Off and I promise I will get some Pics.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Slash27 on December 28, 2010, 11:22:47 AM
Guess I need a photobucket account.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: jimson on December 28, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
The two I have most handy
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll149/jimsom88/DSCN1930.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Pyro on December 28, 2010, 03:00:08 PM
This was a classy looking Italian made 92FS Inox that I sold off.  Looking at it again makes me wish I still had it. 

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg232/soupdujour/beretta.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Rondar on December 28, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Lots of really neat firearms.  I assume most if not all of you have some ammunition for these.  Do you order them online or go to a hardware store or what?  If online, where?  I would like to order some as I live over 65 miles from closest walmart or equivalent.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Guppy35 on December 28, 2010, 03:24:50 PM
Nice, I hate Ar's with crap all over em!

Agreed.  I kinda get a kick out of the guys who get so carried away with their AR's in their effort to 'go tactical' in case the SHTF.  Seems like the idea with the AR was to keep it light.  By the time some guys get done, the thing has to weigh a ton, and frankly I just don't see a point where I'm going to need a fake grenade launcher, flashlight, laser site and waffle iron when I shoot.  But to each his own I guess :)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Slash27 on December 28, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Google "Ammo man". Cheaper Than Dirt has a good selection and prices are ok I guess. Grab a copy of the Shotgun News, they have quite a bit of ads for ammo.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: mbailey on December 28, 2010, 03:26:42 PM
frankly I just don't see a point where I'm going to need a fake grenade launcher, flashlight, laser site and waffle iron when I shoot.   

 :rofl
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: SAJ73 on December 28, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
I have a few shotguns that I inherited after my dad, mostly 12 gauge. I don't have any pics or the names of most of them. But there is a Russian double barrel over/under, one pump which I believe is a Remington. And one Marlin Firearms Shotgun model 5510 Original Super Goose in a 10 Gauge.
One of the other shotguns is an old gem from some time in the late 1800's.
And there is one Remington 66 saloon rifle, and one Mauser rifle from the 40's or thereabout..
Oh yes, and the ammo for the 10 gauge goose gun is Magnum, which I think is pretty cool. They are quite large compared to a standard 12 gauge patron..  :cool:

I don't use any of them now, but I used to carry the Russian double barrel when my dad was alive and we went hunting together.

I just like to keep them for the memories of my dad.  :salute
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jebus on December 28, 2010, 04:54:48 PM
Not my pictures.  I am to lazy to take them out and take a picture.   But these are what I have.

Sig P228 (my baby)
(http://www.control-d.com/img/sig.jpg)

Glock 20 10mm (for Hiking and camping)  Its fun to shoot especially the full power load like double tap
(http://www.davesguns.com/serverpics/FirearmsPage/Glock20C-01.jpg)

Glock 26 for conceal carry (everyone has seen one dont need a picture)

Rock River arms AR-15  LE1070

I also have my grandfathers WW2 Winchester 1917 (he was a second line troop)


Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: katanaso on December 28, 2010, 04:56:14 PM
I'm going to need a fake grenade launcher, flashlight, laser site and waffle iron when I shoot.  But to each his own I guess :)

Dan, you can always use a waffle iron!

Just make sure you keep syrup in the vertical grip. :)

mir

Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on December 28, 2010, 06:31:58 PM
Lots of really neat firearms.  I assume most if not all of you have some ammunition for these.  Do you order them online or go to a hardware store or what?  If online, where?  I would like to order some as I live over 65 miles from closest walmart or equivalent.

Seems like the only deals on quality ammo online require you to buy a lot at one time.  It's an option, just a big one time cost.  Wal-mart is still the easiest and cheapest for me,  Most carry at least 100 round boxes of Winchester White Box or UMC boxes of 250 (I think).  Might be worth stocking up next time you make the trip.

**EDIT** I guess I gave you what I knew for 9mm, I know most have at least 100 round boxes for .40 and .45, not sure about much else.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jack16 on December 29, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x311/archywood/IMG_0563.jpg)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Seraphim on December 29, 2010, 02:27:59 PM
Lots of really neat firearms.  I assume most if not all of you have some ammunition for these.  Do you order them online or go to a hardware store or what?  If online, where?  I would like to order some as I live over 65 miles from closest walmart or equivalent.

I always order in bulk online, it's the most cost efficient. Usually from cabela's, but you can also check gun-deals.com ,they usually have up to date prices from several dealers based on calibers.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 02:59:40 PM
Well, I'm here looking for an oppinion rather than posting a new weapon.

The time has come for me to buy my first rifle, and I had originally planned on getting a Mosin Nagant because it was all I could afford. However, my budget has just jumped a little higher, (I can spare about $360 on a weapon right now).

The local store in Austin has the following two options:

Mosin Nagant: Bayonet, sling, bolt tool and cleaning kit included, cosmoline already cleaned from barrel and ready to fire, $139 out the door.

Yugoslavian SKS: Bayonet and sling included, all parts matching, cosmoline cleaned from barrel and ready to fire, $329 out the door.

I'm looking for something fun, (Thumping kickback and fireball appreciated, lol) accurate, and relatively cheap to fire. Which rifle would the O'Club suggest?
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: katanaso on December 29, 2010, 03:04:01 PM
Mosin Nagant: Bayonet, sling, bolt tool and cleaning kit included, cosmoline already cleaned from barrel and ready to fire, $139 out the door.

Yugoslavian SKS: Bayonet and sling included, all parts matching, cosmoline cleaned from barrel and ready to fire, $329 out the door.

Any chance you could shoot a Mosin and a SKS before deciding?  The Mosin is going to pack a much meaner punch to your shoulder. :)

Also, are you sold on those two?  if not, you could venture into the lever action market.  Just something to consider.


mir
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jack16 on December 29, 2010, 03:19:05 PM
The Mosin Nagant's recoil isn't to bad if you hold it right/tight against your shoulder.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
Any chance you could shoot a Mosin and a SKS before deciding?  The Mosin is going to pack a much meaner punch to your shoulder. :)

Also, are you sold on those two?  if not, you could venture into the lever action market.  Just something to consider.


mir

I could probably shoot one of Tupac's Mosins, but I don't know where I could borrow an SKS...

The reason I looked at those two were because I want something military surplus and those were the cheapest lol.

As far as taking a solid thumping, I've shot an M1A (Similar cartrige size to the SKS?) as well as frequently shooting 12 gauge slugs, and I'm pretty sure those thump more than a Nagant, but I could be wrong.

Being a young, virile guy with more testosterone than intelligence (But don't worry, that doesn't carry over to safely operating a weapon) I actually prefer a solid thump when I shoot.
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Post by: Tupac on December 29, 2010, 03:46:19 PM
I'll let you shoot the M39, you can work your way up to the M38 or the M44.

(just kidding)

When you get back in town we'll load a couple of em up and head to the range. If you have $300 you might want to consider an M39 or an 8mm Mauser
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Post by: katanaso on December 29, 2010, 03:46:37 PM
I could probably shoot one of Tupac's Mosins, but I don't know where I could borrow an SKS...

The reason I looked at those two were because I want something military surplus and those were the cheapest lol.

As far as taking a solid thumping, I've shot an M1A (Similar cartrige size to the SKS?) as well as frequently shooting 12 gauge slugs, and I'm pretty sure those thump more than a Nagant, but I could be wrong.

Cool.  I'd shoot the Mosin just to see if you'd like it.  It's going to be more thmp than the M1A.  When I shot my friend's Mosin, I had already been shooting a Remington 700 in 300 Win Mag, and the Mosin had more kick than that.  (But it did have the fireball...:)  ) 

For comparison, the M1A is 7.62 x 51.  The SKS is 7.62 x 39.  The Mosin is 7.62 x 54R.  Take a look at the energy levels of each.

Quote
Being a young, virile guy with more testosterone than intelligence (But don't worry, that doesn't carry over to safely operating a weapon) I actually prefer a solid thump when I shoot.

I can relate.  It's how I ended up buying a .50 Desert Eagle some years ago.   :lol



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Post by: Nefarious on December 29, 2010, 03:51:44 PM
Well, I'm here looking for an oppinion rather than posting a new weapon.

The time has come for me to buy my first rifle, and I had originally planned on getting a Mosin Nagant because it was all I could afford. However, my budget has just jumped a little higher, (I can spare about $360 on a weapon right now).

The local store in Austin has the following two options:

Mosin Nagant: Bayonet, sling, bolt tool and cleaning kit included, cosmoline already cleaned from barrel and ready to fire, $139 out the door.

Yugoslavian SKS: Bayonet and sling included, all parts matching, cosmoline cleaned from barrel and ready to fire, $329 out the door.

I'm looking for something fun, (Thumping kickback and fireball appreciated, lol) accurate, and relatively cheap to fire. Which rifle would the O'Club suggest?

If you want an SKS, I would not get a Yugo as a First SKS. I would get any other type of SKS before I bought a Yugo.

That's just my opinion, The reasoning may sound silly but here is why.

1. Non-Chromed Line Barrels. Every SKS but the Yugos (and Early Russians) have Chromed Lined Barrels. If this is going to be the only SKS you buy... Buy a Chromed Lined Barrel!
2. Grenade Launcher is a no-no in some states. Texas should be ok, but other states you may relocate too may not be. (California has to have GL ported)
3. These are military surplus rifles and MOST Yugos saw military service in the Balkans. This goes back to the #1 Issue for me, some barrels might be shot out or dark and pitted.
4. Moving Parts... The 59/66s have a Gas Valve for the Grenade Launcher that can get fouled with Cosmoline and can break internally.
5. Weight... The extra stuff makes them heavier than any other SKS.

If I were you... And I wanted to buy an SKS... I would start with a good Chinese. You can still find these rifles for cheap (Good would be under $250) at Pawn Shops.

If you need some more help, let me know.
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Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 03:56:43 PM
If you want an SKS, I would not get a Yugo as a First SKS. I would get any other type of SKS before I bought a Yugo.

That's just my opinion, The reasoning may sound silly but here is why.

1. Non-Chromed Line Barrels. Every SKS but the Yugos (and Early Russians) have Chromed Lined Barrels. If this is going to be the only SKS you buy... Buy a Chromed Lined Barrel!
2. Grenade Launcher is a no-no in some states. Texas should be ok, but other states you may relocate too may not be. (California has to have GL ported)
3. These are military surplus rifles and MOST Yugos saw military service in the Balkans. This goes back to the #1 Issue for me, some barrels might be shot out or dark and pitted.
4. Moving Parts... The 59/66s have a Gas Valve for the Grenade Launcher that can get fouled with Cosmoline and can break internally.
5. Weight... The extra stuff makes them heavier than any other SKS.

If I were you... And I wanted to buy an SKS... I would start with a good Chinese. You can still find these rifles for cheap (Good would be under $250) at Pawn Shops.

If you need some more help, let me know.


As always, great advise Nef!

The store I'm buying from has these in-stock in Austin, so they're TX legal, and they DO have a chinese SKS in stock as well. He told me it was a paratrooper carbine, (He also said the chinese didn't really have paratroopers, it was just a shorter weapon). Personally, I just don't want a chinese weapon, lol. Any soviet country would be preferred.

Weight isn't a concern (I can call a day at the range extra PT, lol) but I'm not sure about that chrome lined barrel (I stumbled on the info that the Yugoslav's aren't chrome lined and why, but nothing said what effect that had). So what is the actual practical ramification of a non-chromed barrel?
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Post by: Motherland on December 29, 2010, 04:03:56 PM
I've shot an M1A (Similar cartrige size to the SKS?)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:bU2Q-WyhLcy92M:http://www.sdnewell.com/Images/IMG_4446.jpg&t=1)
Not quite ;)
7.62x39mm on the bottom, 7.62 NATO on top
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Post by: Tupac on December 29, 2010, 05:14:15 PM
If you want a fireball buy an M44
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Post by: Flench on December 29, 2010, 05:24:24 PM
Stay away from the Boss system if you want to keep your hearing ... I don't know why I let the guy talk me into buying a gun with one on it . It work's and is fine on the range where you can wear plug's but not to hunt with .
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Post by: Blooz on December 29, 2010, 06:08:43 PM
So what is the actual practical ramification of a non-chromed barrel?

Jamming.

Military weapons tend to be fired much and only cleaned when the opportunity allows.

Chrome helps to keep the weapon functional between cleanings.
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Post by: IamSalem on December 29, 2010, 06:12:58 PM
Hey Serenity!

I just got a Yugo SKS for Christmas as my first rifle (not counting my 22 and musket) and I have to say, it's a blast! (No pun intended!)

The lack of Chrome lined barrel isnt really a hinder unless A) you are going to be marching around in a hot and humid jungle B) not able to fully clean your rifle after shooting (because you're marching around in a jungle!). I would take Nef's advice about the barrel being pocked and such, and would thoroughly look over the rifle before you purchased it. Mine is in relatively good shape and fun fun to shoot! The rifle grenade attachment is a bit pointless (well, for some  :devil) but it is a neat addition and a good conversation starter! Also, if it is fully cleaned of the cosmoline already, then that is a deal, as I just went through the 3 hour nightmare that is a fully cosmo coated SKS the other day. I wouldnt bump the sks off your list just yet.


Though the Mosin is fun to shoot too... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 06:17:03 PM
Hey Serenity!

I just got a Yugo SKS for Christmas as my first rifle (not counting my 22 and musket) and I have to say, it's a blast! (No pun intended!)

The lack of Chrome lined barrel isnt really a hinder unless A) you are going to be marching around in a hot and humid jungle B) not able to fully clean your rifle after shooting (because you're marching around in a jungle!). I would take Nef's advice about the barrel being pocked and such, and would thoroughly look over the rifle before you purchased it. Mine is in relatively good shape and fun fun to shoot! The rifle grenade attachment is a bit pointless (well, for some  :devil) but it is a neat addition and a good conversation starter! Also, if it is fully cleaned of the cosmoline already, then that is a deal, as I just went through the 3 hour nightmare that is a fully cosmo coated SKS the other day. I wouldnt bump the sks off your list just yet.


Though the Mosin is fun to shoot too... :rolleyes:

Good to know! Additionally, my options may continue to expand, as I just made $200 today for next to nothing, so my budget is now up into the $550 range, lol. I appreciate the advice all!
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Post by: Nefarious on December 29, 2010, 06:23:04 PM
As always, great advise Nef!

The store I'm buying from has these in-stock in Austin, so they're TX legal, and they DO have a chinese SKS in stock as well. He told me it was a paratrooper carbine, (He also said the chinese didn't really have paratroopers, it was just a shorter weapon). Personally, I just don't want a chinese weapon, lol. Any soviet country would be preferred. 

The big difference between the Chinese SKS and all the other countries is that not all Chinese SKS are military surplus rifles. The demand for them in the US grew so much that the Chinese started to commercially build the SKS when the military surplus rifles dried out. These came into the US as all sorts of models and variants to spice up the current SKS selection, some were modified in China but most were done here in the US.

The "Paratrooper" is a hot little piece in collectors terms. There are two main types of "Paras" one has the full length gas tube. I have a commercially built Norinco SKS-S it can be identified with shortened gas tube and I love it. If it is the same or less, price or condition wise as that Yugo; I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Weight isn't a concern (I can call a day at the range extra PT, lol) but I'm not sure about that chrome lined barrel (I stumbled on the info that the Yugoslav's aren't chrome lined and why, but nothing said what effect that had). So what is the actual practical ramification of a non-chromed barrel?

Chrome line barrels were created to keep the battlefield from destroying your battle rifle.  ;)
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Post by: IamSalem on December 29, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
Good to know! Additionally, my options may continue to expand, as I just made $200 today for next to nothing, so my budget is now up into the $550 range, lol. I appreciate the advice all!


ignore this post  :noid
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Post by: Jayhawk on December 29, 2010, 06:26:46 PM
Good to know! Additionally, my options may continue to expand, as I just made $200 today for next to nothing, so my budget is now up into the $550 range, lol. I appreciate the advice all!

You're in Glock range now. :rock
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Post by: IamSalem on December 29, 2010, 06:27:30 PM
You're in Glock range now. :rock


Glock made a rifle!  :O







 :noid
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Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
The big difference between the Chinese SKS and all the other countries is that not all Chinese SKS are military surplus rifles. The demand for them in the US grew so much that the Chinese started to commercially build the SKS when the military surplus rifles dried out. These came into the US as all sorts of models and variants to spice up the current SKS selection, some were modified in China but most were done here in the US.

The "Paratrooper" is a hot little piece in collectors terms. There are two main types of "Paras" one has the full length gas tube. I have a commercially built Norinco SKS-S it can be identified with shortened gas tube and I love it. If it is the same or less, price or condition wise as that Yugo; I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Is the para-rifle something I could turn around and re-sell?

It's probably quite silly, I'll admit, but I just have absolutely no desire to own anything manufactured in Asia. It just doesn't appeal to me as an item.
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Post by: Jayhawk on December 29, 2010, 06:41:14 PM

Glock made a rifle!  :O







 :noid

I'd buy one... are you not 21 Serenity?
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Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 06:43:50 PM
I'd buy one... are you not 21 Serenity?

No sir, sadly I'm barely legal...
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Post by: Jayhawk on December 29, 2010, 06:46:22 PM
Gotcha, and I understand you're looking for something with some historical value.  Someday you'll own a Glock.  :aok
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Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 06:53:29 PM
Gotcha, and I understand you're looking for something with some historical value.  Someday you'll own a Glock.  :aok

lol. Only after a 1911 ;)
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Post by: adam1 on December 29, 2010, 06:57:06 PM
  

  My Mosin Nagant M91/30  http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=104194&id=100001764570005#!/photo.php?pid=104196&id=100001764570005&fbid=114654455270040 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=104194&id=100001764570005#!/photo.php?pid=104196&id=100001764570005&fbid=114654455270040)
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Post by: Nefarious on December 29, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
Is the para-rifle something I could turn around and re-sell?

It's probably quite silly, I'll admit, but I just have absolutely no desire to own anything manufactured in Asia. It just doesn't appeal to me as an item.

People sell guns after they buy them? :headscratch:  ;)

No difference to me, just another variant. If its the ethics thing try to understand all of these rifles wear some kind of badge of tyranny or oppression, some also rock the badge of freedom and revolution. Just so much history in every variant outside of the Chinese commercial variants as I mentioned.

Russians had the oppression in Gulags and secret police in East Germany, Romanians have the 1989 Revolution where they drug Ceauşescu out into the street an shot him against a wall. The ethnic clashes in the Balkans, and the worst of all being the Chinese Genocides.

The SKS has seen it all, it's got that been there done that feeling for sure.

If you really want to buy an SKS... Any SKS... Read this BBS... It is a dedicated SKS forum. http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php
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Post by: Tupac on December 29, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
Is the para-rifle something I could turn around and re-sell?

It's probably quite silly, I'll admit, but I just have absolutely no desire to own anything manufactured in Asia. It just doesn't appeal to me as an item.

Russia is Asia.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: IamSalem on December 29, 2010, 07:26:17 PM
Russia is Asia.

 :rofl

I'd buy one... are you not 21 Serenity?

I probably would too!
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on December 29, 2010, 07:27:05 PM
Thanks Nef! I honestly haven't made up my mind, I'm mostly going for the nicest rifle in my price range, and right now, the SKS is the high end.

I've been doing a bit of research on it and found this little bit of fun for the Yugo SKS: http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2006/fore/index.asp
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Post by: IamSalem on December 29, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
People sell guns after they buy them? :headscratch:  ;)

No difference to me, just another variant. If its the ethics thing try to understand all of these rifles wear some kind of badge of tyranny or oppression, some also rock the badge of freedom and revolution. Just so much history in every variant outside of the Chinese commercial variants as I mentioned.

Russians had the oppression in Gulags and secret police in East Germany, Romanians have the 1989 Revolution where they drug Ceauşescu out into the street an shot him against a wall. The ethnic clashes in the Balkans, and the worst of all being the Chinese Genocides.

The SKS has seen it all, it's got that been there done that feeling for sure.

If you really want to buy an SKS... Any SKS... Read this BBS... It is a dedicated SKS forum. http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php


Oooh! Time to register! Thanks for link!  :aok
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Post by: Larry on December 29, 2010, 07:38:15 PM
Here you go serenity   :aok


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=208756040
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Motherland on December 29, 2010, 08:41:42 PM
Russia is Asia.
Tula is in European Russia, it looks like Izhevsk is, too.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: cattb on December 29, 2010, 08:48:14 PM
Topic is on guns. Here is a video of a guy who shoots very fast. The fastest gunman.
http://www.wimp.com/fastestgunman/ (http://www.wimp.com/fastestgunman/)
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Jayhawk on December 29, 2010, 10:05:37 PM
lol. Only after a 1911 ;)

I feel ya man, those 1911s get me thinking every time I'm at the gun shop.
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Post by: Becinhu on December 31, 2010, 11:54:33 PM
Unless you buy a knock-off a good 1911 will run you around a grand, at least around here it will.
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Post by: Serenity on January 01, 2011, 02:30:06 AM
Unless you buy a knock-off a good 1911 will run you around a grand, at least around here it will.

New-production GI 1911s are running around $550-$600 wherever I've seen them. Again though, those are new productions.
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Post by: Becinhu on January 01, 2011, 09:15:17 PM
The cheapest older production 1911 I have personally seen around here was $950 and it looked like a tank ran over, thought he missed and backed up. The nearly mint 1911 at Cabela's in the gun library was over 2k.
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Post by: Serenity on January 01, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
The cheapest older production 1911 I have personally seen around here was $950 and it looked like a tank ran over, thought he missed and backed up. The nearly mint 1911 at Cabela's in the gun library was over 2k.

Again, those are the old productions. I'd love one, and eventually plan to get one, but I'd get a new production first, because it's affordable, lol.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 01, 2011, 09:29:53 PM
Again, those are the old productions. I'd love one, and eventually plan to get one, but I'd get a new production first, because it's affordable, lol.

I'd say there's nothing wrong about having a new production 1911.. As long as it's not chromed out or all silver or something silly like that... yuck!
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Serenity on January 01, 2011, 09:46:51 PM
I'd say there's nothing wrong about having a new production 1911.. As long as it's not chromed out or all silver or something silly like that... yuck!

Couldn't agree more! I've never like the shiney or the tacti-cool. I prefer the good old fashioned GI look.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Guppy35 on January 02, 2011, 12:44:48 AM
Bought the GI 45 for my son a while back.  Nice gun

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?clicktype=1911
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Post by: fbWldcat on January 02, 2011, 12:47:33 AM
I'm trying to decide on either a lever-action 30-30 or a bolt action 30-06 for deer. I've already killed the thought of getting a shotgun, as I never go bird hunting. So yeah, 30-30 or 30-06? I need help deciding because I'm just at a standstill.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Becinhu on January 02, 2011, 10:34:08 AM
I'm trying to decide on either a lever-action 30-30 or a bolt action 30-06 for deer. I've already killed the thought of getting a shotgun, as I never go bird hunting. So yeah, 30-30 or 30-06? I need help deciding because I'm just at a standstill.
Depends on the ranges you are planning to shoot at. Anything inside of 200 yards a .30-30 is excellent. Also, with flatnosed bullets deer don't run far if you hit bone. The .30-06 is a popular round (I have both) but I have had more deer run off and have to be tracked with the .30-06 than I ever did with a .30-30. I switched to flatnose .30-06 rounds in 180 grain a few years ago and it has eliminated the problem. However, in most average hunting scenarios .30-06 is overkill for whitetails. If you ever plan to hunt out west the .30-06 , .270, or .300 are great longe range calibers.
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Post by: Becinhu on January 02, 2011, 10:42:52 AM
Unfortunately I just inherited alot of guns. My 80 year old grandfather pulled a pistol on my aunt and grandmother last night.  My uncle took a .30-30 and a .16 gauge out of the house.  I have to go tonight and pick-up the pistol from the sheriff ( he had 2, can't account for the other one).  I brought home 2 double barrel .12 gauges, a single shot .12 gauge, a .30-06, 2 .30-30 (1 pump and 1 bolt, neither with clips), a .22, 2 BB/pellet guns, about 15 hunting knives, a box of ammo, brass knuckles, a  .12 gauge pump.  Now I have to find out where the other pistol is stashed (if he still has it). Luckily in his elderly state and mind they were able to get the gun from him without incident.
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Post by: Maverick on January 02, 2011, 11:54:58 AM
Sorry you had some family troubles there. Some of those might have some appeal to folks though if you aren't going to hang onto them. The 30-30's and 22's would be great for grand kids to learn hunting and shooting with. I heve several grandkids too so I know what I'm talking about.












<was that too subtle a hint?>   :D :devil
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Post by: Becinhu on January 02, 2011, 11:56:12 AM
Just got done inventorying my grandfather's armory.  This is minus the .30-30 Marlin and the .16 ga single shot my uncle took and the .22 revolver I still have to pick up from the sheriff.

Daisy BB gun

unknown single shot pellet rifle (very high powered) pump action
Volunteer Arms .12 ga single shot

Sears & Roebuck .30-06 bolt

unknown double action .12 ga only label is on barrel rib "Belgium fine laminated steel" with old style hammers

Cresent Firearms double action no60 Empire Hammerless .12 gauge double

Remington .22 L/S bolt minus clip

Savage model 340 .30-30 bolt minus clip

Winchester model 1200 .12ga pump

Savage model170B .30-30 pump

6+ boxes of .12ga ammo
box of .25cal ammo
box of .22 LR
various loose ammo
15 knives, one being a USMC issue
set of brass knuckles
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Post by: Golfer on January 02, 2011, 04:32:18 PM
He still has a .25 pistol somewhere.
Title: Re: "I like guns, I like guns, I like guns"
Post by: Becinhu on January 02, 2011, 05:03:10 PM
Just collected the .22 pistol. It's not the one I remember, that one was silver.  I've torn the house apart looking for it.  It may not be there anymore. I have .25 cal. ammo, but I also found a .22 magnum shell and he didn't own a .22 mag. He also had .20ga shells and no .20 ga. My uncle is going to try and trick him into giving up its location if it is still there. He is being told the sheriff dept. took all his guns or else he will think I stole them even though I took them at my grandmother's request.
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Post by: Tupac on January 04, 2011, 01:29:07 PM
Just got a Tula 91/30, will post pics later.

Also, Serenity bought his Yugo SKS and wanted me to tell you guys
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Post by: Flifast on January 04, 2011, 01:54:16 PM
H K UPS40 LEM
Ruger Redhawk 454 Casull  Bear protection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APv0U_XaK_E

Bushmaster AR15

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/fliifast/michaelgrad002.jpg)

Browning BPS
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Post by: Nefarious on January 04, 2011, 03:12:13 PM
Just got a Tula 91/30, will post pics later.

Also, Serenity bought his Yugo SKS and wanted me to tell you guys

PICS PLEASE  :aok
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Post by: TUK on January 04, 2011, 03:33:10 PM
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3633/stoy.jpg)
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Post by: IamSalem on January 04, 2011, 03:35:02 PM
Just got a Tula 91/30, will post pics later.

Also, Serenity bought his Yugo SKS and wanted me to tell you guys


Congrats to both of ya!

Serenity, you will love that gun. Infact, I just got back from shooting mine!  :aok
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Post by: Becinhu on January 04, 2011, 04:50:17 PM
Nef....buddy...I'm getting concerned.  Your request for gun pics is getting out of hand. Am I gonna read in the paper that the ATF confiscated your computer for inappropriate gun pr0n? :joystick:



And NO!!! you cannot have "Alone time" with my Mosin. :bolt:
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Post by: Nefarious on January 04, 2011, 06:26:12 PM
Somebody has to post pics  :D

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/ralphmunnich/100_0051.jpg)

My two WASR-10 Rifles. Optics and mount are new and untested.
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Post by: Jayhawk on January 04, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
This is what happens when you give your friends shotguns.

 :D

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/target.jpg)
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Post by: Golfer on January 04, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff345/martinguitarist/ppwrangeday.jpg)

Back yard shooting range at my folks house in Ohio where I grew up.

This was sight-in day for the Bushmaster Varminter.  Buddy brought out his Bushmaster AR15 Rifle.  Also is one of my carbines (S&W M&P15), a host of pistols in various calibers, Remington 1100 and 1187, Ruger 10/22, Henry knock off thingy that shot 38 Special.  A very modest $100 rifle with a $200 trigger job...smoothest lever gun I've ever shot and it was a cheapie. 

There are plenty here not pictured but why would I put a picture of everything I owned.  Besides all these were lost in a tragic boating accident just after the photo was taken, rest their souls.  Also lost in said boating accident were my M1A, the M1A National Match I didn't have at the time of photo but it too was lost in the boating accident, Predator AR15, Sig P238, Walther P22, another 1911, Ruger P89 and so many more.  When will these needless boating accidents stop.  :cry
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Post by: Tyrannis on January 04, 2011, 08:04:33 PM
Somebody has to post pics  :D

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/ralphmunnich/100_0051.jpg)

My two WASR-10 Rifles. Optics and mount are new and untested.
:rofl no offence but that ak looks so stupid with a scope and small mag
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Post by: Nefarious on January 04, 2011, 08:10:52 PM
:rofl no offence but that ak looks so stupid with a scope and small mag

They are more practical when shooting targets at the range, The 30 rounders are just ammo burners. :)
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Post by: Serenity on January 04, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
Just got my girl home from the store! Haven't shot her yet, but Tupac and I have a range-day scheduled for tomorrow.
Here she is!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs029.ash2/34825_492642979737_519229737_5960563_6068463_n.jpg)

So, heres the thing. Most of the cosmo is out of the barrel, and the shop says it's good to fire. I poured some boiling water down the barrel and dried it out tonight. It could use a more thorough cleaning, but I couldn't do much more with the combination of my experience and the fact that my girlfriend was b***ing and moaning about the smell of Hoppes 9.

It is still COVERED in cosmo, (The exterior of the metal anyway). So, do I just spike the bayonet into the dirt outside and pour boiling water over the metal? Or is there a more refined way to de-cosmo it? I've tried looking at online articles and while they describe useful tools, I think I need a more step-by-step idiots-guide-to-removing-cosmo.
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Post by: Nefarious on January 04, 2011, 09:05:42 PM
Looks like a good Yugo! Check the Yugo code chart at survivors forums to see how old your rifle is.

Get a Metal pan, disassemble rifle, soak metal rifle parts in solvent, acetone, kerosene, brake cleaner etc...

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Post by: Serenity on January 04, 2011, 09:15:16 PM
Looks like a good Yugo! Check the Yugo code chart at survivors forums to see how old your rifle is.

Get a Metal pan, disassemble rifle, soak metal rifle parts in solvent, acetone, kerosene, brake cleaner etc...



For the barrel itself? (It would take a HUGE ammount of solvent to fill a pan large enough for the whole barrel...) And then do I whipe dry? Or just leave the solvent on?
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Post by: Becinhu on January 05, 2011, 02:27:29 AM
Somebody has to post pics  :D

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb180/ralphmunnich/100_0051.jpg)

My two WASR-10 Rifles. Optics and mount are new and untested.

Well Nef...I have seen you shoot...scope ain't gonna help ya bro.  Better let me handle it.  :noid
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Post by: EskimoJoe on January 05, 2011, 04:04:47 AM
:rofl no offence but that ak looks so stupid with a scope and small mag

Looks pretty sexy to me.
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Post by: Nefarious on January 05, 2011, 07:14:39 AM
For the barrel itself? (It would take a HUGE ammount of solvent to fill a pan large enough for the whole barrel...) And then do I whipe dry? Or just leave the solvent on?

I should of been clearer.

Reciever Cover, Bolt (Dissasembled), Bolt Carrier, Trigger Group, Operating Rod, Spring and Gas Piston. You said you cleaned the barrel already. Visually inspect Gas Block and Gas Tube to make sure there is no Cosmo there.

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Post by: Bronk on January 05, 2011, 10:46:30 AM
My new toys.

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/newtoys.png?t=1294082730)
What we have here folks is..
1. Kimber Pro Crimson Carry II
2. S&W .460
 :devil
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Post by: Serenity on January 05, 2011, 11:49:08 AM
I should of been clearer.

Reciever Cover, Bolt (Dissasembled), Bolt Carrier, Trigger Group, Operating Rod, Spring and Gas Piston. You said you cleaned the barrel already. Visually inspect Gas Block and Gas Tube to make sure there is no Cosmo there.



Gun store sold us some Gunk Off while we were there. Didn't specify what for, but I read the directions and figured it might work on cosmo, (The SKS wasn't full of it, it was just a light, sticky coating on everything.) Sprayed the Gunk Off all over the metal (None on the wood of course...) the cosmo literally ran right off! The force of the aerosol mixed with the chemical pushed it right off without trouble. I just feel like it was too easy, lol. Like there's a reason more people don't use this stuff like that...
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Post by: Nefarious on January 05, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
Make sure your Firing Pin moves freely (rattles) when you shake the Bolt and you should be good to go.
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Post by: Tupac on January 05, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
Got back from the range, both guns shot well
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Post by: mbailey on January 05, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
My new toys.

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/newtoys.png?t=1294082730)
What we have here folks is..
1. Kimber Pro Crimson Carry II
2. S&W .460
 :devil

My primary CC weapon is my Pro Carry CDP, Love the thing  :aok
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Post by: Serenity on January 05, 2011, 08:34:06 PM
Make sure your Firing Pin moves freely (rattles) when you shake the Bolt and you should be good to go.

It DID... and then I shot some cheap wolf ammo through her... and now she is just... gunked to hell and back...

Shiney silver firing pin: Black.
Shiney silver bolt receiver: Black.
Shiney silver bayonet: Black.

Gunk off will cut through cosmo, but won't get all of this black off. Tried Hoppes 9. Still a little grey... Last time I EVER shoot Wolf ammo.
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Post by: Serenity on January 05, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Firing range with Tupac and his buddy.

First 10 rounds on the new SKS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BuUZByxnaE

I was a little too excited, lol. I had been waiting all day, and driving WAY too fast to get to the range. I got there, checked her out one last time, saw no problems, cycled the bolt a couple times, moved freely, so I loaded her up. (Before you all start, my stance sucks, I know. I don't know why I always revert to that, I think it's me trying to place the weight of the weapon over my core.) I lost count of how many rounds, hence Tupac telling me "You're empty" at the end, lol. I loved her. Greatest feeling in the world!

Shooting the M44:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdg7ACYK4AE

This is the best shot of the fireball. And you can FEEL the shockwave when it goes! Whenever he shot while I was looking down at my own stripper clips, I could feel it roll over me, and it never stopped really dropping my jaw! It's an amazing feeling, and my new goal is to track down an M44 for myself!

Shooting Tupac's new 91/30:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oChvUf3VYAs

She was a kicker, not like the M44, but MUCH more than the SKS. The bolt was definitely stiff (Not sure what cleaning Tupac did overnight, but I know he's planning to oil the bolt). Very nice weapon to hold!
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Post by: Tupac on January 05, 2011, 10:32:39 PM
I wonder who that astoundingly good looking fellow was shooting the M44?
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Post by: Serenity on January 05, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
I wonder who that astoundingly good looking fellow was shooting the M44?

What are you talking about? I was shooting the 91/30! :p
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Post by: Larry on January 05, 2011, 11:02:55 PM
What are you talking about? I was shooting the 91/30! :p

Looks like the 91/30 was shooting you.  :P
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Post by: Serenity on January 05, 2011, 11:25:03 PM
Looks like the 91/30 was shooting you.  :P

lol. I will say, she kicks harder than I expected!
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Post by: katanaso on January 05, 2011, 11:34:03 PM
lol. I will say, she kicks harder than I expected!

lol

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Post by: Larry on January 06, 2011, 03:13:07 AM
lol. I will say, she kicks harder than I expected!

What ammo were you using? I haven't shot mine in about a month but I don't remember it kicking that much. Hell my Mossberg 500 kicks harder then my 91/30.
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Post by: Jack16 on January 06, 2011, 04:44:29 AM
Gratz on the purchase Serenity! :aok
Now welcome to the addiction to purchasing firearms!! :x

The bolt was definitely stiff (Not sure what cleaning Tupac did overnight, but I know he's planning to oil the bolt). Very nice weapon to hold!

Yeah, that's a common problem with the 91/30(not sure about the other variations). It's called "sticky bolt". I had the same exact problem when I first got mine. Like you said, a proper cleaning and oiling should fix this problem.


This is the best shot of the fireball. And you can FEEL the shockwave when it goes! Whenever he shot while I was looking down at my own stripper clips, I could feel it roll over me, and it never stopped really dropping my jaw! It's an amazing feeling, and my new goal is to track down an M44 for myself!

You can get the same experience from the 91/30 I guess when it gets hot enough. I was at a smaller 25yd indoor range on Monday with a friend. My 91/30 was giving fireballs and I could see a big cloud of dust being kicked up off the floor like 20-30ft away :x.

What ammo were you using? I haven't shot mine in about a month but I don't remember it kicking that much. Hell my Mossberg 500 kicks harder then my 91/30.

I'm guessing it was just the normal military surplus rounds.
I didn't think the 91/30 kicks to hard either, lol.
Everyone kept telling me how hard it kicks. The guy at the gun store told me, "Good luck with this one" when I told him i've never fired a weapon before and my friend said, "10 shots and your arm will be dead"(I ended up firing all 50 rounds I had, lol)
So, first time shooting it, I was like, "That's it?". From what everyone was telling me, I was getting ready to be knocked backwards lol.
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Post by: Nefarious on January 06, 2011, 07:18:48 AM
It DID... and then I shot some cheap wolf ammo through her... and now she is just... gunked to hell and back...

Shiney silver firing pin: Black.
Shiney silver bolt receiver: Black.
Shiney silver bayonet: Black.

Gunk off will cut through cosmo, but won't get all of this black off. Tried Hoppes 9. Still a little grey... Last time I EVER shoot Wolf ammo.

Did you take the bolt completely apart? Cosmo needs to be removed there and will ooze out during shooting causing a mess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B7X4IItVoI

Try Hoppes#9 and 0000 Steel Wool to remove the powder burns on the Bolt and Bolt Carrier and Bayo :)
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Post by: Jack16 on January 06, 2011, 08:04:05 AM
Another thing to keep in consideration is to keep it in a place with low humidity. Metal parts can rust if your not carefull.
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Post by: Serenity on January 06, 2011, 01:20:51 PM
Did you take the bolt completely apart? Cosmo needs to be removed there and will ooze out during shooting causing a mess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B7X4IItVoI

Try Hoppes#9 and 0000 Steel Wool to remove the powder burns on the Bolt and Bolt Carrier and Bayo :)

I can't get it apart. I've tried everything including hammering a rod into that pin, and it won't budge. As a result, all I could do was spray Gunk Out into all the open areas of the bolt and soak it in Hoppes 9 and Gunk Out. It seems to have gotten the crud out, as it rattles nicely. I'm gonna keep trying to get the bolt apart, but so far, no luck.
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Post by: Serenity on January 08, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
New girl joined the family today. I went to a local gunshow looking to buy some cheap 7.62x39 (I bought all of the ammo I could find in town, and already used it all! lol) and stumbled on this girl. She's got an after-market butt plate, which is a downer, as well as some scratching and rust on the exterior metal, but on the inside she's in great condition. The barrel is beautiful on the inside, and the bolt slides like butter. She's an Ishevsk M44 made in 1948, all numbers matching except the butt pad, and not force-matches either!

(http://l3.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-snc6/hs078.snc6/168836_494736029737_519229737_5992228_3644716_n.jpg)
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Post by: Nefarious on January 08, 2011, 02:43:22 PM
Nice rifle. How much?... You are also missing the cleaning rod   :D
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Post by: Serenity on January 08, 2011, 02:48:05 PM
Nice rifle. How much?... You are also missing the cleaning rod   :D

Yeah :(

She was $200 with several boxes of ammo. Steep i know, but I couldn't resist. I woke up that morning saying I wanted an M44. I brought $150 with me to the gun show, and the first thing I saw walking in the door was an M44 for $250. I said "If I see a chase bank within  5 minutes of leaving the gun show, I'll withdraw another $100 and go back and haggle." Pulled out of the parking lot and there was a chase right next door. So I went back, and couldn't talk the guy lower than $200. I figure I can afford it (sorta) and I don't know when I'll happen across another M44...