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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Ripsnort on June 29, 2000, 07:32:00 AM
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Okay, heres the scenario:
ASUS P2B Mother board, with Intel P2-350mhz chip.
Flashed BIOS and updated with latest ASUS V1012 BIOS. Rebooted. No problems, everything honky dory.
Removed 350 chip and installed Intel P3 550mhz chip. Changed jumpers to 550 config. per ASUS webpage. Booted up, cool, 550mhz shows on boot etc. Everything runs fine. I go into AH and notice a 12 FPS increase. Now Im jazzed! Shut down puter, reboot it, do the same thing, as I execute a program, the screen goes black, blinking lite on front of computer.
Upon inspection, no power to the chip, fans not turning on the chip. Power is supplied to Video card chip fan on one of the slots, but no power to the Intel chip.
I re-install the old chip, change the jumpers back...still no power to the chip fan, nor the chip.
WTF is wrong?! Bad motherboard? Bad power supply?(if bad power supply, why does it prvide power to some areas of the MB but not others?
Scenarios: If it is a bad MB, can I replace the old one with an identical MB without losing HD data?
At a loss here, and right before the holidays! Damn!
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Rip.. assuming you've reseated the CPU, and u didn't cook it the first time around from over heating... (unlikely) Then you probably toasted your Main Board. Elctro static discharge... loose screw causing short... PC gods didn't like your sacrifice and now your being punished. Look for a loose screw making contact with the MB.. if not.. call manufactuere and get it replaced under warranty and pray your CPU isn't cooked either.
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WarChild
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MB is not under warranty anymore, but question: Will the HD have to be reformatted in order to replace the old MB with an identical new MB? (I'm assuming the worse..)
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Rip,
what kind of HD ur using?
Maik
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Western Digital 9 gig, Maik.
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It doesn't matter what "type" of HD your using. as long as u get an identical board and you do not have a network interface card (LAN card) integrated on the MB, then all you have to do is replace the board and if there is no damage to any other components,, cpu.. hd.. ram... you'll be up and runnin again.
If u gotta buy a new board.. maybe upgrade time... get one of the new asues's with 133mhz bus. you can always tune it down to what you have now.. leave u upgrade options in the future. if this is what you do... u can still just slap it in there and boot up.. (baring other failures again) you'll have to redetect ALOT fo stuff and load drivers.. but it should work. The recomended way to do it is to install the hard ware and go ground up with your software, but i've changed Mother boards out from OS very often.. and encounter problems only occasionally.
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WarChild
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I've just one question have you checked the voltage for your CPU ?
Are you sure to have set the jumper on the good position for the P2-350 on your last try ?
Bad news :
My hypothese is that your MB is dead (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
But check if it's not in contact any part of your PC tower
Good news:
Concerning your HD keep it it would be ok
Hope it help ...
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Ripper,
If you get the same MB, put everything in the same slots, it may config itself the same way, and you shouldn't need to format.
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=135&sid=1wHCjE00@MCrDD1 (http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=135&sid=1wHCjE00@MCrDD1)
Man those MB are exspensive. Good thing the ones I use aren't.
Mr.ED
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Reformat every few months keeps the bogged down cpu away.
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Many Many thanks for all the info guys, taking it in to 'the shop' in two hours, will let you know when surgery is finished. Hopefully I can get this puppy up and running before the long week-end (Prays).
Talk about disheartening, seeing my much improved FR for 5 min. then nothing! I had a difficult time sleeping last night, I guess my spare time really does revolve around PC's...should I seek help? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Is the drive partitioned?
If the drive is a single partition you should be able to put it in any puter and expect it work fine given all the same perif's. Do
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As you are now upgrading <g> (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Why don't you take a MSI 6163pro or an Asus P3V4X ?
With soft menu you can overclock without pain (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) and without those F* jumper (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Rip may be to late but you can pretty much change all ASUS boards with another ASUS board and not need to reformat. I just changed from the P2B to the P3V4X Yetserday and did not reformat. Check bios to see if fan is turned on. Cant remeber if you can shut it down on that one or not.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
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No partitions, thankfully~! This is what I intend to do if I am to lose data, going to instruct them to remove the exiting HD and put a new one in if the new MB is going to require a re-format. Thanks!@
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Thanks Indian. Will keep that in mind when I talk to the Hardware techies...I should have had them do it in the first place!
My specialty is CAD/CAM software, NOT hardware!
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I have a PIII800EB in ASUS P3V4X and get 53 FPS 39 on the ground where before I got 29FPS. My vidoe card ios TNT2 Ultra CL.
Rip a good board to get if you dont want the VIA chip set is the P3BF only problem is its not UDMA66 and not AGP4x the P3V4X is both. If you get the second or havt to changed it that is let me know got a link to speed up vidio on it.
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Tommy (INDIAN) Toon
Member Of The 1st Aces High Trainer Corps.
Everthing else is just Second place.
Indian's Homepage (http://www.geocities.com/~tltoon)
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A friend said that I may have fried the memory, being it was 66mhz mem compared to what I should have...100 mhz. memory, what do you all think?
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If it is a bad MB, can I replace the old one with an identical MB without losing HD data?
YES!
about memory....i have celeron 366 at 66Mhz so i can't checked it by myself, but P2 350using 100Mhz memory (the same with P3) so i think there is other reason for it.
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If you fried the MB with static (not likley cause it worked once) you could have fried everything or nothing else. most likely just the MB. If the ram is not working you get ram error messages durring the POST test at boot.
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OhNooo
smile awhile
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is your PIII a Copermine ? as it does have a different Voltage than the Katmais (PII)... it should have detected it by himself, but who knows... Tried thee CPU on another System to see if it's not the CPU that fried ?
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Okay, update: Techie said Mother board is fried. They are re-installing a new one, I should have it back this afternoon.
Thanks once again for all your reply's!
Rips
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!!!!OOPS !!!!! never mind
Rip,
It sounds like you may have blown the MB.
To answer your question about reformatting the drive when changing the MB, NO you do not have too, you will get all type of complaints from Windows and it will start detecting new hardware and requesting the new drivers...(they should come with the new MB) once installed you can clean up the registry under Windows 98 by going to the system information and run the registry checker.
If you want more information feel free to e-mail me at heater@wardogs.org
Cheers
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[This message has been edited by Heater (edited 06-29-2000).]
[This message has been edited by Heater (edited 06-29-2000).]
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Seek help ? Yes
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Airspro, yes, took it in and had the MB replaced (With an ABIT MB) Everything back to normal and honky dory, again, thanks to the community for a fast reply,you guys are simply great! <S>
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