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Title: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Belial on October 20, 2010, 04:35:44 PM
Why can't we use some of the awesome maps they use in FSO and AVA in the MA?


And if we have to keep rotating these same maps why do the same ones keep repeating its like it's not even random.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: lyric1 on October 20, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
Why can't we use some of the awesome maps they use in FSO and AVA in the MA?


And if we have to keep rotating these same maps why do the same ones keep repeating its like it's not even random.
If nothing changes I will be back in two weeks :aok
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Dichotomy on October 20, 2010, 04:42:54 PM
It's a conspiracy didn't you know?
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: 68ZooM on October 20, 2010, 04:44:22 PM
defiantly tired of the map in LWB
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: StokesAk on October 20, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
We everyone to make a base taking squad so we can rush the maps along quickly. vDEVILS are not doing their job.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: JOACH1M on October 20, 2010, 04:49:59 PM
Most of those maps are to small, iknow twin river is
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Dragon on October 20, 2010, 04:51:22 PM
Why can't we use some of the awesome maps they use in FSO and AVA in the MA?



+1
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: DEECONX on October 20, 2010, 05:01:21 PM
Even still, there is no reason for maps to be back to back week in and week out...+1 for different maps!
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: 68ZooM on October 20, 2010, 05:03:54 PM
We everyone to make a base taking squad so we can rush the maps along quickly. vDEVILS are not doing their job.

We'll all work in shifts, ive heard late late night is the hardest to take a base   :noid
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: JHerne on October 20, 2010, 05:05:21 PM
I wish the terrain editor was easier to work with - I'd do maps if it didn't explode on me every time I try to save a file.

+1 to new maps. If someone knows the map editor, I can do a layout.

J
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: james on October 20, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
When you submit a map and it gets accepted. Is it only accepted
For Ava or special events or MA?
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Babalonian on October 20, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
Players can submit MA maps, but they have to meet the grade to see use.  IE: Bases not too close or not too far and a fair/even field of play for three separate countries to duke it out on.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: curry1 on October 20, 2010, 06:34:26 PM
If nothing changes I will be back in two weeks :aok

see you in two weeks
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Amaazee on October 20, 2010, 06:38:59 PM
Give us the KOTH map. :)  :lol
 :banana:

Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Belial on October 20, 2010, 06:55:42 PM
I just know there are alot of talented players that make maps, sound, skins etc...and these maps are being pushed to the wayside.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: JunkyII on October 20, 2010, 06:59:35 PM
I know HTC has said on multiple threads that the maps are on some sort of cycle. The smaller maps only last a day or 2 against the hordes where as the big ones take a bit more work.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 20, 2010, 07:03:35 PM
If you notice. FSO maps are usually set up for two countries. The MA has 3

On second thought. We could always just ditch the rooks. They're pretty useless anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Babalonian on October 20, 2010, 07:05:46 PM
If you notice. FSO maps are usually set up for two countries. The MA has 3

On second thought. We could always just ditch the rooks. They're pretty useless anyway.  ;)

here here
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: The Fugitive on October 20, 2010, 07:09:51 PM
I just know there are alot of talented players that make maps, sound, skins etc...and these maps are being pushed to the wayside.

The maps are not pushed to the wayside. All of the maps for the AvA, and FSO, and scenarios are specially designed for those things. They can NOT be used in the mains because they do not fit the criteria for a Main Arena map.

As Babalonian said they have very strict rules for what MUST be in a main arena map, as well as what CAN NOT be in a main arena map. They are not interchangeable.  

Skuzzy posted a list of the MA's map rotation. Whether or not they are still following that I don't know. There are 12 maps for the MA's. Some of them are reset very quickly, others linger for days.

AW had 2 maps, Pac and euro. When we came here they had 4 and the rotated at least once a week, now we have 12. I don't see anything to complain about.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: dkff49 on October 20, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Just cancel your account but come back in 2 weeks if things don't change.

 :D
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Belial on October 20, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
I understand a larger map is harder to win...


But on titanic tuesday we go to a single map then "supposedly 1 new one"

This has been the same maps repeating for 8 weeks. :aok

We have seen maybe 4/12 :huh
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: CAP1 on October 20, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Why can't we use some of the awesome maps they use in FSO and AVA in the MA?


And if we have to keep rotating these same maps why do the same ones keep repeating its like it's not even random.

you can use these maps. come to the ava.


someday i might stop trying to push this arena......hell......who am i fooling...it's too much fun there. i won't stop.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Dichotomy on October 20, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
On the subject of maps Mrmidi is giving a presentation on map making at the Con.  Hopefully it will make its way to youtube or something. 
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: AWwrgwy on October 20, 2010, 08:09:03 PM
Even still, there is no reason for maps to be back to back week in and week out...+1 for different maps!

Small maps get rolled within the day, if not within a few hours as they come into the rotation.  Large maps, being more difficult, although not impossible, takes longer than the weekly reset.

Therefore, don't roll small maps so fast or double the amount of times small maps get rotated in.

Seems the large maps are fulfilling there purpose with the amount of people on, allowing furballing and base taking while making the "winning the war" goal a challenge.



wrongway
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: bustr on October 20, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
I remember when the sun was yellow, ground was green, sky and water was blue, airfeilds were shades of grey, brown and black. The only color you didn't want to see was red tracers past your canopy.

You guys are spoiled.
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: ap1102 on October 20, 2010, 09:06:18 PM
im interested in knowing what the stats are with base captures and war wins  with the new setup vs the old set up. less map changes equal more boredom with map
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Spite on October 21, 2010, 03:08:37 AM
When it comes to maps, it is hard to please everybody.  With the announcement last week of a newer release of the Terrain Editor, I decided to try my hand and downloaded it last Friday.  I have spent the last few days trying to get up to speed with the TE and it's idiosyncrasies and map making in general.

Four or five days later, one thing is now clear.  It is not an easy process.  It is very time consuming.  It is a long and detailed road to completion, if at all.

In going through the available material I came across a map from Greebo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,277040.0.html); a truly spectacular looking map ... and upon seeing it my immediate reaction (with all due respect to Greebo) was that it would not likely see the light of day.  When you look at that map and the time investment required and the ultimate "sanctioning" requirements of HTC ... it becomes clear that getting a new map into the -MA's- is not an easy accomplishment and it requires a very large time investment.

So, for those of you inclined to whine ... might I suggest you download the TE and get to work.   :D
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: Dichotomy on October 21, 2010, 06:08:31 AM
I remember when the sun was yellow, ground was green, sky and water was blue, airfeilds were shades of grey, brown and black. The only color you didn't want to see was red tracers past your canopy.

You guys are spoiled.

and you had to walk eight miles to school, in the snow, uphill, BOTH ways.  That said, you are correct. 

Spite... Indeed

Hey I laid out for two years and hardly anybody noticed.  Give the two weeks a shot ;)
Title: Re: I am going to make a whine thread and I need your support
Post by: CAP1 on October 21, 2010, 09:07:48 AM
and you had to walk eight miles to school, in the snow, uphill, BOTH ways.  That said, you are correct. 

Spite... Indeed

Hey I laid out for two years and hardly anybody noticed.  Give the two weeks a shot ;)

your forgot to remind him he had to do that bare footed.