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Title: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 26, 2010, 06:42:50 PM
So i see this happening alot lately when im dive bombing tanks, which i love to do. Ive had it happen to me a few times where i would drop a bomb and look back at the target and before the bomb would hit the tank the player would eject from the tank, causing me be frustrated of what i just saw.  :furious Yes you can call this complaining or whining and you can flame this thread all you like (because i know you will), but this can't be happening just to me. i know this happens to other people. Id like to know why people are afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them, all they can do after getting killed is up again and drive another 300 yards to the same position. btw the tanks i dropped on were not even perked vehicles, i could understand then, but on a base where can you drive back to your same position it is ridiculous and also annoying.

thanks for listening, RedTail
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: grizz441 on October 26, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: TwinBoom on October 26, 2010, 06:59:15 PM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.
:aok
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Meatwad on October 26, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
Thats fine as long as aircraft also have to sit on the tarmac for 10 seconds after they .ef
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: grizz441 on October 26, 2010, 07:10:09 PM
Thats fine as long as aircraft also have to sit on the tarmac for 10 seconds after they .ef

Fine by me.  Shouldn't be able to just .ef and Matrix off to the tower anyways.

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Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 26, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
that sounds great grizz, if only HTC would read that idea
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Lusche on October 26, 2010, 09:02:34 PM
that sounds great grizz, if only HTC would read that idea

It's not a new one, and he has commented on it in the past... not favorably ;)
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Tarstar on October 26, 2010, 09:26:11 PM
Fine by me.  Shouldn't be able to just .ef and Matrix off to the tower anyways.

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But But.... I'm the one.. I didn't even like the cookies!  :(
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 26, 2010, 09:41:27 PM
So i see this happening alot lately when im dive bombing tanks, which i love to do. Ive had it happen to me a few times where i would drop a bomb and look back at the target and before the bomb would hit the tank the player would eject from the tank, causing me be frustrated of what i just saw.  :furious Yes you can call this complaining or whining and you can flame this thread all you like (because i know you will), but this can't be happening just to me. i know this happens to other people. Id like to know why people are afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them, all they can do after getting killed is up again and drive another 300 yards to the same position. btw the tanks i dropped on were not even perked vehicles, i could understand then, but on a base where can you drive back to your same position it is ridiculous and also annoying.

thanks for listening, RedTail

Why give you the pleasure of bomb tarding when the tank driver can just tower out? If I can tower out when on concrete and deny the pilot the kill, I will do it every time... I do not think it is a matter of being afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them like you wrote. It is a matter of why give the bomb**** a free kill?
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Yeager on October 26, 2010, 09:46:21 PM
I rarely do this.  I just suck it up and either try to move fast or hope the attacker drops too wide or too low.

Bailing from a tank is the same to me as someone who bails from their LANCs the moment they are done dropping bombs.  It cheapens the entire experience.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 26, 2010, 09:47:33 PM
Why give you the pleasure of bomb tarding when the tank driver can just tower out? If I can tower out when on concrete and deny the pilot the kill, I will do it every time... I do not think it is a matter of being afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them like you wrote. It is a matter of why give the bomber a free kill?

Not surprised at the comments coming from the vDevils, what one squadron must do to make up for their collective lack of skill.

ack-ack
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Lusche on October 26, 2010, 10:00:21 PM
I rarely do this.  I just suck it up and either try to move fast or hope the attacker drops too wide or too low.

Bailing from a tank is the same to me as someone who bails from their LANCs the moment they are done dropping bombs.  It cheapens the entire experience.


I never bail out of my bombers just, but I even had a .ef makro programmed to my joystick for use in tanks  ;)
Maybe this has to do with some subtle differences in gameplay.

Lets take OZkansas. There are those two nice Vbases in the southwest, V135/V136, spawning towards each other, so that no side has a genuine spawn camping advantage. One of the best places for a tank battle.
But inevitably the jabos show up, especially after the southern country moved it's CV close. From then on it's a constant rain of bombs on that battle, without risk and without any intention beyond simply getting kills on helpless victims. When I'm there and hear a bomb falling, I bug out. Without any regret and without shame. The last ones going ballistic about this were tripl5 and his cowfriends, which used to get hundred of "atttack mode" kills that way.

Now I'm not saying "thou shall not bomb tanks"... but don't expect me to be a booster for your score if I can help it ;)

Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: RealDeal on October 26, 2010, 10:42:34 PM
Fine by me.  Shouldn't be able to just .ef and Matrix off to the tower anyways.

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Great idea, think of all the prairie doggers upping from capped bases you'd finially be able to get. :O
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 26, 2010, 10:55:22 PM
Not surprised at the comments coming from the vDevils, what one squadron must do to make up for their collective lack of skill.

ack-ack
I wouldn't expect less from the #1 Bulletin Board Tool in Aces High! Thanks again for another waste of hard drive space Ack-Ack... :salute
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 26, 2010, 11:21:52 PM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.

you suck.

how dare you put up an idea that i can't disagree with??   :aok :neener:
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: BrownBaron on October 26, 2010, 11:32:15 PM
Why give you the pleasure of bomb tarding when the tank driver can just tower out? If I can tower out when on concrete and deny the pilot the kill, I will do it every time... I do not think it is a matter of being afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them like you wrote. It is a matter of why give the bomber a free kill?

I don't see how it's a free kill. He took a heavy aircraft in to hostile territory (almost sure death, if not accompanied by an entourage of clean fighters), dropped the bomb in some sort of precise fashion, and didn't auger on climb out. If you don't want bombs falling on your head, have a sqaudy roll a wirble, or fly air cover. Geez, what am I saying? Asking a vDevils Brigade member to use common sense!? I've been working too hard.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Little Dragon on October 27, 2010, 06:51:18 AM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.
+1  :cheers:
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: waystin2 on October 27, 2010, 06:53:00 AM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.

I disagree on a time to land requirement.  If they want to bail before bombs hit, then so be it.  It's their 15 bucks, and it's what makes them happy.  By the way, I never bomb GV's that are on friendly pavement unless the VH is down.  Why give up my egg for a less than a 100% chance of a kill?

Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 27, 2010, 07:55:04 AM
I disagree on a time to land requirement.  If they want to bail before bombs hit, then so be it.  It's their 15 bucks, and it's what makes them happy.  By the way, I never bomb GV's that are on friendly pavement unless the VH is down.  Why give up my egg for a less than a 100% chance of a kill?



'cuzzzz yous gots tu win da warzzzzz
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Yeager on October 27, 2010, 08:20:33 AM
If I can tower out when on concrete and deny the pilot the kill, I will do it every time...
Think about trying to survive by staying in the game, rather than giving a guy a target to hit and then exiting out as soon as he commits to his attack.  Very poor game play on your part.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 27, 2010, 08:30:20 AM
Not surprised at the comments coming from the vDevils, what one squadron must do to make up for their collective lack of skill.

ack-ack

LOL.  That is so trul.    :aok
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: kvuo75 on October 27, 2010, 08:36:06 AM
I don't see how it's a free kill.

because he's sitting sitting still.


how about this "solution"? if a vehicle gets killed by a bomb and is not in motion, have it count simply as an object destroyed instead of a kill!   :neener:

i dont see a problem either way.. if you are bombing gv's at an enemy base, you're probably trying to capture it.. put your bombs on the vh(s), then on the gv's.. if they tower out then, who cares, they're out of the fight either way, you just don't get an easy kill to go along with it.  

also, i believe hitech has addressed the issue, and said it is like a defender's homefield advantage.

Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: captain1ma on October 27, 2010, 08:41:17 AM
Why give you the pleasure of bomb tarding when the tank driver can just tower out? If I can tower out when on concrete and deny the pilot the kill, I will do it every time... I do not think it is a matter of being afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them like you wrote. It is a matter of why give the bomber a free kill?

gotta love the mentality! i bet some of those real tank drivers wished they could've .ef'ed out of their tanks before they were blown to smithereens! oh well, there are little boys, then there's men!
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: airbumba on October 27, 2010, 08:44:58 AM
... If you don't want bombs falling on your head, have a sqaudy roll a wirble, or fly air cover.
  :aok

A la Moil.Speak of Moil, is he still around?
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Yeager on October 27, 2010, 09:15:08 AM
i dont see a problem either way..

it is like a defender's homefield advantage.

Anyone in the game can alt out any time they get into a position of being killed.
Exiting a GV once a bomb is headed your way is the same thing.   It is poor gameplay, cheap gameplay.... but thats just how some people are.  Others stay in the game and with the fight until the end.  Those are the ones that make the game a better experience.

Homefield advantage?  no.  thats just HTCs code speak way of saying not important enough to address.  And I agree.  Some of us are going to stick with it, others will bail at the first sign of being beaten.  Nothing can be done to make those people want to fight it out. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Dr_Death8 on October 27, 2010, 09:30:14 AM
I rarely do this.  I just suck it up and either try to move fast or hope the attacker drops too wide or too low.

Bailing from a tank is the same to me as someone who bails from their LANCs the moment they are done dropping bombs.  It cheapens the entire experience.
:aok  :salute Same here. Besides, if I am paying attention, a last minute manuever makes the bomber miss every time.  :furious
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: B4Buster on October 27, 2010, 09:54:25 AM
DERK, if you are so upset about GVs hitting .ef and just driving another 300 yards to the same position, then my guess is the VH is still up. In that case, why not drop on the VH? It can't tower out once you release your bombs, and you still get your name in lights for doing damage. Why drop on a vehicle when the VH is up unless you're just looking for easy kills? In that case, I'd tower out too.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: The Fugitive on October 27, 2010, 10:24:05 AM

B4Busty, I think you may have hit the crux of the problem. This may be one of the very few ways this guy can rack up any kills either for his name in lights, or for score. Another instance of people not wanting to bother learning how to fight, just looking for another way to cut corners.  :(

 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: VonMessa on October 27, 2010, 10:29:03 AM
I disagree on a time to land requirement.  If they want to bail before bombs hit, then so be it.  It's their 15 bucks, and it's what makes them happy.  By the way, I never bomb GV's that are on friendly pavement unless the VH is down.  Why give up my egg for a less than a 100% chance of a kill?



QFT  :aok

That's why I don't JABO GV's that are on concrete.

Simple fix, really.     :headscratch:
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: SWkiljoy on October 27, 2010, 11:29:38 AM
I wouldn't expect less from the #1 Bulletin Board Tool in Aces High! Thanks again for another waste of hard drive space Ack-Ack... :salute
See Rule #4 + Rule #8
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: ROX on October 27, 2010, 11:39:10 AM
"I are the suxxorz in gv's so I'll just go get a plane and bomber them...when I try and bomber them they end sortie so I can't get a kill.....Whhhaaaaaaaaa :cry  :cry  :cry"


FTFY



(PS--I wouldn't give you the freebie bomb-drat kill either)
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: bagrat on October 27, 2010, 11:40:33 AM
yep kill the VH first, then see if they still play peekaboo in the only tank they will get from that field.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: RTHolmes on October 27, 2010, 12:16:17 PM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.

+1 :aok


Thats fine as long as aircraft also have to sit on the tarmac for 10 seconds after they .ef

+1 :aok
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: wil3ur on October 27, 2010, 12:38:41 PM
I actually like to use the prairie doggers to my advantage when trying to take V-Bases.  Having someone  tower out the second they hear a bomb is a great thing for taking a v-base intact w/ hangars up.  They're not camping the maproom and they're not shelling M3's rolling onto base, and they're sure as heck not looking for troops when they hear the whistle of 1000lbs comming on their heads.

If you wanna gamble that you can re-up before 10 troops make it in the room, go for it.  Just don't be mad when a tiger is in the hangar behind your wirble and you can't tower out any longer.

...also if you have 2 or 3 people doing it, you can always have a squaddie drop another 1000lbs 3 seconds later on the spawn hangar and take out all the buggers re-upping out of there w/ 1 bomb.  Get am all nice and grouped and helpless... talk about easy kills.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: greens on October 27, 2010, 12:38:59 PM
Fine by me.  Shouldn't be able to just .ef and Matrix off to the tower anyways.

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man if thatd happen id get u alot more grizzy, chased u n u landed like 5 times before i got there. now if there was a 10 sec thing id vulch u on runway, maybe was bruv i was chasin
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Bruv119 on October 27, 2010, 12:49:09 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Soulyss on October 27, 2010, 01:08:32 PM
The key is to get into the GV'ers mind... I can't hit the broadside of a barn with a bomb, or the broadside of a hangar, or city block for that matter.  If I can get them to tower out while the bomb is in the air and going to miss them anyway I see that as a win. :)
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 27, 2010, 01:29:53 PM
ok thanks guys for your comments, and ack ack isnt a tool btw he may sound like an arse but he is bery true in most cases. I figured out my own solution, put a few rounds in them, then go up and do your dive run and if they bail you still get your kill because you put some guns on them on previous run. That my new solution. Again thanks for response salute. RedTail
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 27, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
dive bombing,i can't hit much more than the dirt.

way back when i was in another squad........i got lame enough to take lancs up for the gv doods.

14,000 pounds of love.  :devil
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 27, 2010, 01:31:00 PM
very*
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 27, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
i got lame enough to take lancs up for the gv doods.

Why is it lame that you took up a Lancaster to bomb some tanks?  There is nothing wrong with it despite the tools like members of the vDevils pout, let them cry and call you a "bomb****" all they want.  They are the ones getting a new tank and you're the one smiling because you just made a group of tools whine and pissed.


ack-ack
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 27, 2010, 01:33:23 PM
very*

yea i know. i don't do that anymore. i don't try to dive bomb em either...unless you count me falling out of the air as a divebomb attempt
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Belial on October 27, 2010, 02:24:37 PM
This sounds like someone got his arse clubbed in a tank and then couldn't get any revenge.


Another reason they tower is if they were playing for score duh a ditch is less harmful to score then death.

Personally I'd do it to rob someone a kill on me cause people always try to bomb me :furious
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: wil3ur on October 27, 2010, 02:48:11 PM

...people always try to bomb me :furious


*glances at Belials avatar and laughs*  :neener:
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 27, 2010, 02:53:02 PM
I just enjoy the whining on 200 after i bomb them.  Then i laugh hard when they up in a uber AC and come after me.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Dr_Death8 on October 27, 2010, 02:54:49 PM
ok thanks guys for your comments, and ack ack isnt a tool btw he may sound like an arse but he is bery true in most cases. I figured out my own solution, put a few rounds in them, then go up and do your dive run and if they bail you still get your kill because you put some guns on them on previous run. That my new solution. Again thanks for response salute. RedTail

That won't work if they are on pavement. As long as they are on a road or pad at the base. you can turrent them and they can still land without you getting credit. Just have to dive in from very high at 90 degree angle so they don't know until too late. :aok
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 27, 2010, 02:57:36 PM
That won't work if they are on pavement. As long as they are on a road or pad at the base. you can turrent them and they can still land without you getting credit. Just have to dive in from very high at 90 degree angle so they don't know until too late. :aok
true, just thought of that after i post it, ugh. thanks ill try that, if not ill bomb gvs not on the pavement.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Dr_Death8 on October 27, 2010, 02:58:51 PM
Why is it lame that you took up a Lancaster to bomb some tanks?  There is nothing wrong with it despite the tools like members of the vDevils pout, let them cry and call you a "bomber" all they want.  They are the ones getting a new tank and you're the one smiling because you just made a group of tools whine and pissed.
ack-ack

I agree, let them whine. I will cuss ya out under my breathe, but if you look at my kills this month so far in an M4, I have killed almost as many planes as GVs. So go ahead, bring out the bombers.  :salute :aok
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Dr_Death8 on October 27, 2010, 03:00:28 PM
...if not ill bomb gvs not on the pavement.

BINGO!! You know the only reason they park on the roads are for the quick escape.lol  :salute
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 27, 2010, 03:33:13 PM
On landing kills in gvs i think instead of a 10 sec wait to .ef, which that is a good idea but for landing kills it should be that you have to land near or inthe VH. How does that sound?
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: bagrat on October 27, 2010, 03:44:57 PM
On landing kills in gvs i think instead of a 10 sec wait to .ef, which that is a good idea but for landing kills it should be that you have to land near or inthe VH. How does that sound?

what about the spawners? loooong drive home
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Lusche on October 27, 2010, 03:46:39 PM
On landing kills in gvs i think instead of a 10 sec wait to .ef, which that is a good idea but for landing kills it should be that you have to land near or inthe VH. How does that sound?

To make it fair, planes should then only be able to land their kills at the base near HQ.  ;)
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: JHerne on October 27, 2010, 03:50:13 PM
Personally, I think its cheap. I bombed an M4 the other night and missed, no big deal, came around for a second pass and he shoots at me with his main gun and missed. I drop a second bomb and he towers out, the bomb lands right where he was seconds before.

Now - had he hit me with his main gun, it woulda been his kill and he'd be happy and gloating.

Bombs were dropped on tanks - it happened, lots of historical evidence to back that up. Planes shot down by main guns on tanks - only one historical event that I've ever been able to find, it was an M5 that hit a Japanese fighter and it was purely by accident.

So - if tanks can shoot at planes with main guns and its perfectly acceptable to take your punishment, why can't it be acceptable the other way around?

Falling bombs and jabos are an everyday part of a WW2 tankers' life. Towering out to avoid the bomb and the subsequent kill is simply gaming the game. It stinks, but that's what we have to deal with.

Flame away, tards.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: 4deck on October 27, 2010, 03:59:20 PM
If you tank expect a bomb. If its me bombing you. Expect to die.  :P
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Wiley on October 27, 2010, 04:06:53 PM
Maybe I missed it, but why is a 10 second wait to tower out of both planes and tanks terrible again?

I don't really care that much about tanks bailing under a bomb, but I do feel it's cheesy gameplay no different from bomb and bailing, jabocide on the dar with no attempt to survive, and plug pulling when the enemy gets close to your bomber.

As far as the main gun thing, I still maintain if you put a WWII tank crew on a mountain of ammo in the middle of a field, and had a b25 running patterns around that field at say, 1k alt and told them to knock it down, giving them a bunch of different angles to shoot from, they'd do it within an hour.  The same if it was a fighter that kept coming straight at them like it was going to drop a bomb from a shallow angle.  The reason I believe it didn't happen in the war was it was a low percentage shot, and they had better things to expend their limited ammo on than aircraft.  Also, the planes probably rarely if ever came in shallow enough for them to get the gun high enough to get at them.

Wiley.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: bmwgs on October 27, 2010, 04:11:40 PM
If you tank expect a bomb. If its me bombing you. Expect to die.  :P

If I am the tank, expect your bomb to hit dirt.    :D

Fred
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: choker41 on October 27, 2010, 04:42:17 PM
Instead of whining about towering out just go to spawn and clear out the gv's there.  They can't tower out and you'll hear a lot of compliments on 200.  You might get saluted for a great 1000lb drop on a M3 dropping supplies.  Before ya come out and bomb the spawn at least try to up a few times at the spawn to attempt to clear it out. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: kvuo75 on October 27, 2010, 04:57:12 PM
Anyone in the game can alt out any time they get into a position of being killed.
Exiting a GV once a bomb is headed your way is the same thing. 
it's different. disco counts as half a death, landed successfully counts as 0 death.

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It is poor gameplay, cheap gameplay.... but thats just how some people are.  Others stay in the game and with the fight until the end.  Those are the ones that make the game a better experience.


i agree it's gamey, and so are many other things in the game, but i don't know how giving free kills makes good gameplay..  Do you think the endless #'s of people who give vulchers at a completely capped base free kills is good gameplay as well??

the gv is essentially a sitting duck for anyone with a bomb. the jabo or the carpet bomber doesn't risk anything, why should the gv if he doesn't have to?

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Homefield advantage?  no.  thats just HTCs code speak way of saying not important enough to address.  And I agree.  Some of us are going to stick with it, others will bail at the first sign of being beaten.  Nothing can be done to make those people want to fight it out. 

fight what out? what kind of fight is a gv going to give an airplane, sitting stationary on his own base, with the bombs already incoming?

I will continue to tower out whenever I wish, if only to make people waste bombs.  On a related note, I occasionally do it with planes when a base is being actively vulched, up a 262 or something on a rwy, and tower out soon as they come racing over each other shooting at a defenseless plane on a runway. it becomes a game of chicken.. wait till they're close enough to waste ammo, but not hit ya :) it's great fun!
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 27, 2010, 04:57:27 PM
LOL.  That is so trul.    :aok
I'd expect nothing less from you either Oakranger .You are the number 2 bulletin Board tool...
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Spikes on October 27, 2010, 05:03:42 PM
I always found the guys who tower out at a spawn as I'm diving on them funny...I get the kill either way. If it's not a flak I usually don't even drop a bomb on the first pass to see what they do.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 27, 2010, 05:06:43 PM
If I am in a wurble, I never tower when the bombs whistle. If I am on concrete in a tank and some guy is clearly just looking for free tank kills, and not trying to kill the VH, I may just tower out and not give him the pleasure of a free kill. If the VH is down, I stay until they kill me...If a few Bulletin Board warriors do not like it, I really dont care. They do not pay my subscription... My point was clear.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 27, 2010, 05:10:19 PM
ok thanks guys for your comments, and ack ack isnt a tool btw he may sound like an arse but he is bery true in most cases. I figured out my own solution, put a few rounds in them, then go up and do your dive run and if they bail you still get your kill because you put some guns on them on previous run. That my new solution. Again thanks for response salute. RedTail

Derk13, my point was simple. I may tower out if the pilot is clearly not trying to take the base or VH and just looking for tanks to drop on... If he is trying to take the base and going for the VH, I never tower out...I never tower in a wurble. I may tower in a tank on concrete  if the pilot has no intention of killing the VH and is just looking for free tank kills. Should I just put a large sign on the top of my tank that says free kills?? If your flying over a base with no intention but to drop bombs on tanks, I for one am not going to be on your kill roster... And yes Ack-Ack is a tool!!!Spends all of his time trolling and making worthless comments!! Nobody can say anything on these boards without some worthless comment from Ack-Ack or Oakranger.. They must spend 24 hours a day trolling the Bulletin Boards...

I before you ask, No I am not mad about anything at all. It would be nice to see a civil discussion about a subject on these boards without the same ILK making insults and put downs... I always conduct myself well inside of the game... No 200 rants and no PM insults. Would it be too much to ask for a few people to conduct themselves accordingly on the boards??? I am not speaking about you Derk...
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: RTHolmes on October 27, 2010, 05:19:12 PM
if you're towering for a landing or ditch, you're near your own base.

the guy dropping a bomb is not getting a "free kill", hes heavy and low alt in enemy airspace which means hes easy meat for auto/manned ack, wirbles and enemy fighters. nothing free about it.

the gv otoh is getting "free kills" because he faces no risk of a death. assuming hes aware enough to spot incoming bombs or rounds and take 0.1s to type .ef
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Lusche on October 27, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
the guy dropping a bomb is not getting a "free kill", hes heavy and low alt in enemy airspace which means hes easy meat for auto/manned ack, wirbles and enemy fighters. nothing free about it.

Read the example I gave above. Usually almost risk at all for the JABOs involved.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Belial on October 27, 2010, 06:00:54 PM
Derk13, my point was simple. I may tower out if the pilot is clearly not trying to take the base or VH and just looking for tanks to drop on... If he is trying to take the base and going for the VH, I never tower out...I never tower in a wurble. I may tower in a tank on concrete  if the pilot has no intention of killing the VH and is just looking for free tank kills. Should I just put a large sign on the top of my tank that says free kills?? If your flying over a base with no intention but to drop bombs on tanks, I for one am not going to be on your kill roster... And yes Ack-Ack is a tool!!!Spends all of his time trolling and making worthless comments!! Nobody can say anything on these boards without some worthless comment from Ack-Ack or Oakranger.. They must spend 24 hours a day trolling the Bulletin Boards...

I before you ask, No I am not mad about anything at all. It would be nice to see a civil discussion about a subject on these boards without the same ILK making insults and put downs... I always conduct myself well inside of the game... No 200 rants and no PM insults. Would it be too much to ask for a few people to conduct themselves accordingly on the boards??? I am not speaking about you Derk...


+1 SKy idk about OAK but Ack-Ack is exactly as you described, nothing but a troll.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: ROX on October 27, 2010, 06:13:31 PM

+1 SKy idk about OAK but Ack-Ack is exactly as you described, nothing but a troll.


+10


ROX
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: BrownBaron on October 27, 2010, 06:15:06 PM
if you're towering for a landing or ditch, you're near your own base.

the guy dropping a bomb is not getting a "free kill", hes heavy and low alt in enemy airspace which means hes easy meat for auto/manned ack, wirbles and enemy fighters. nothing free about it.

the gv otoh is getting "free kills" because he faces no risk of a death. assuming hes aware enough to spot incoming bombs or rounds and take 0.1s to type .ef

Precisely. There is no such thing as a free kill in AH.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DrBone1 on October 27, 2010, 06:16:28 PM
Precisely. There is no such thing as a free kill in AH.
All i make are free kills what am i doing wrong?
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: stodd on October 27, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
So i see this happening alot lately when im dive bombing tanks, which i love to do. Ive had it happen to me a few times where i would drop a bomb and look back at the target and before the bomb would hit the tank the player would eject from the tank, causing me be frustrated of what i just saw.  :furious Yes you can call this complaining or whining and you can flame this thread all you like (because i know you will), but this can't be happening just to me. i know this happens to other people. Id like to know why people are afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them, all they can do after getting killed is up again and drive another 300 yards to the same position. btw the tanks i dropped on were not even perked vehicles, i could understand then, but on a base where can you drive back to your same position it is ridiculous and also annoying.

thanks for listening, RedTail
Im not sure about the situation when this happend, however when im in a good tank battle and bomb****s appear and start dropping bombs on tanks without even trying to take out the vh's ill gladly .ef out everytime to try and deny the bomber a kill.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DrBone1 on October 27, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
Im not sure about the situation when this happend, however when im in a good tank battle and bombers appear and start dropping bombs on tanks without even trying to take out the vh's ill gladly .ef out everytime to try and deny the bomber a kill.
:aok      ;)
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 27, 2010, 06:59:55 PM
I'd expect nothing less from you either Oakranger .You are the number 2 bulletin Board tool...

LOL, the same whining i get on 200. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 27, 2010, 07:03:34 PM
ok ack ack does flame threads, so what ,ignore him, put on ignore list. It is not that hard. If he keeps doing it play along or something its aces high bulletin board, you can flame all you like on his threads, no one stoppin you. Go ahead, just dont get in trouble or look like a fool. Salute have fun, dont worry. I dont post threads to hear some people whine about people flaming them. Ignore them.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: shreck on October 27, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Might be a nice addition to make it so tankers sitting on pavement must wait 10 seconds from when they .ef and to when they exit.  It would really make it difficult to end the flight based on the noise of dropping bombs and really isn't that long to wait.

and remove GV icons  :aok  make that jabbo look a little harder for it   :rock
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 27, 2010, 07:15:22 PM
LOL, the same whining i get on 200. 

Makes it priceless doesn't it?  Their whines on the forums is just as enjoyable.

ack-ack
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 27, 2010, 07:22:37 PM
So i see this happening alot lately when im dive bombing tanks, which i love to do. Ive had it happen to me a few times where i would drop a bomb and look back at the target and before the bomb would hit the tank the player would eject from the tank, causing me be frustrated of what i just saw.  :furious Yes you can call this complaining or whining and you can flame this thread all you like (because i know you will), but this can't be happening just to me. i know this happens to other people. Id like to know why people are afraid of getting a bomb dropped on them, all they can do after getting killed is up again and drive another 300 yards to the same position. btw the tanks i dropped on were not even perked vehicles, i could understand then, but on a base where can you drive back to your same position it is ridiculous and also annoying.

thanks for listening, RedTail

I agree with you.  It dose get frustrated when some ppl .ef from a GV before your bomb gets them.  Here are some things that i do:
1) it is best to come down on top of them, 90 degree anage attack.  most of the time they do not see you coming in and you have a greater chance of getting a kill.
2) (this is a four part) if Gv is on concret, you can either:
    a. bomb them if they are moving.  they can not .ef while moving.
    b. If in flack and shooting at somebody, a good way to get them while distracted.
    c. If firing on you, learn when to released your bomb at higher alt, they will be to busy trying to get you and not react fast enough to .ef
    d. You can always do a fake drop and force them to .ef
3) to save using your ords, learn to used your guns to take out their guns.  you have a better chance getting more kills.  
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: kvuo75 on October 27, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
ifthe guy dropping a bomb is not getting a "free kill", hes heavy and low alt in enemy airspace which means hes easy meat for auto/manned ack, wirbles and enemy fighters. nothing free about it.

not necessarily.. he may be (and often is) a formation or 3 of lancs at 15-20k just carpet bombing a base.

the logical extension of "you should stay in your vehicle and get bombed" is "you should reup and get bombed again".. Is it not? same for vulchers/vulchee, spawn camper/campee.. They should just keep feeding free kills because it's the honorable thing to do?



Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 28, 2010, 03:51:14 PM
this one is nearly as bad as the cv hiding one.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 28, 2010, 03:52:56 PM
Makes it priceless doesn't it?  Their whines on the forums is just as enjoyable.

ack-ack

See Ack-Ack, You cant even control yourself. You had to make another comment calling people whiners because they pegged you for what you really are....
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 28, 2010, 05:22:45 PM
See Ack-Ack, You cant even control yourself. You had to make another comment calling people whiners because they pegged you for what you really are....

But yet, you seem to be the only person commenting to Ack-Acks remarks.  Why is that?
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Yeager on October 28, 2010, 06:04:19 PM
Akak calls them as he sees them.  Trust me, I know ;)  And he is usually right on the money anyway.  Best to take what he says and try to make good with it.  Improve.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 28, 2010, 06:17:35 PM
Thank oak and yeager, quiting whining on a post that isnt about whining you whiner, if you want to complain about ack ack and whoever else put it on another post. I posted this to see how people deal with gv ejectors, not you whining about ack ack flaming you of your whining. Its life its deal with it. Its guna happen to you outside of the AHBB.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 28, 2010, 06:20:28 PM
See Ack-Ack, You cant even control yourself. You had to make another comment calling people whiners because they pegged you for what you really are....

The whines from your kind are music to the ears and if bombing your GV will make you cry like you're crying on the forums now, beware of the P-38J lugging bombs. 

As for the people calling me a troll, look who they are.  They (like you) are considered to be amongst the most timid and lamest players, so it seems that you will fit in nicely with your buddies.  Enjoy.

ack-ack
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Yeager on October 28, 2010, 06:29:34 PM
Its guna happen to you outside of the AHBB.
:O
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Guppy35 on October 28, 2010, 06:46:08 PM
If I am in a wurble, I never tower when the bombs whistle. If I am on concrete in a tank and some guy is clearly just looking for free tank kills, and not trying to kill the VH, I may just tower out and not give him the pleasure of a free kill. If the VH is down, I stay until they kill me...If a few Bulletin Board warriors do not like it, I really dont care. They do not pay my subscription... My point was clear.

Your point being you play the way you want regardless.  So why do you have any expectations of anyone else with that mentality?  And why do you take the time to comment?

Sounds like your squaddie last night who sank the carrier at the only fight on the map.  When asked why he wrecked the fight, his response was 'that's what I do."

Kinda says alot don't you think?
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 28, 2010, 06:47:19 PM
Thank oak and yeager, quiting whining on a post that isnt about whining you whiner, if you want to complain about ack ack and whoever else put it on another post. I posted this to see how people deal with gv ejectors, not you whining about ack ack flaming you of your whining. Its life its deal with it. Its guna happen to you outside of the AHBB.

It can be annoying when ppl .ef before a bomb kills them. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 28, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
Thank oak and yeager, quiting whining on a post that isnt about whining you whiner, if you want to complain about ack ack and whoever else put it on another post. I posted this to see how people deal with gv ejectors, not you whining about ack ack flaming you of your whining. Its life its deal with it. Its guna happen to you outside of the AHBB.
Listen to you whining about somebody you think is whining... Stupidity is in large supply on this thread....
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: sky25 on October 28, 2010, 07:39:11 PM
The whines from your kind are music to the ears and if bombing your GV will make you cry like you're crying on the forums now, beware of the P-38J lugging bombs.  

As for the people calling me a troll, look who they are.  They (like you) are considered to be amongst the most timid and lamest players, so it seems that you will fit in nicely with your buddies.  Enjoy.

ack-ack

I continue to stand by my original statement... I will now end my comments on this worthless discussion....
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 28, 2010, 07:54:52 PM
I continue to stand by my original statement... I will now end my comments on this worthless discussion....

Thank god you finally pipe-down. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 28, 2010, 08:23:08 PM
imagine someone checking out these bbs's before they join the game. imagine what they'd think.

 they sure as hell wouldn't guess that the last 5 or 6 pages of crap were typed by grown men.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: grizz441 on October 28, 2010, 08:41:26 PM
imagine someone checking out these bbs's before they join the game. imagine what they'd think.

 they sure as hell wouldn't guess that the last 5 or 6 pages of crap were typed by grown men.

You had better start some more topics to bump this off the front page then.  :O
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: DERK13 on October 28, 2010, 09:18:18 PM
yea lol like a topic on how ppl whine for ppl hiding CVs lol. FYI im not a grown man yet, but thanks if you were refering to me and others arguing, shows im being mature i guess. Salute ,drop discussion, tired of it, just wanted to know how ppl dealt with gv ejectors i got my answer. Thanks have a good day, RedTail
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 28, 2010, 09:31:13 PM
You had better start some more topics to bump this off the front page then.  :O


can i make more about sapp? and ava? can i? can i?  huh?huh? :devil :neener:
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 28, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
yea lol like a topic on how ppl whine for ppl hiding CVs lol. FYI im not a grown man yet, but thanks if you were refering to me and others arguing, shows im being mature i guess. Salute ,drop discussion, tired of it, just wanted to know how ppl dealt with gv ejectors i got my answer. Thanks have a good day, RedTail

well, you may not be yet, but from what i've seen here, you carry yourself fairly well.

then of course, there's the rest of us here setting a really good example for younger guys like you.......
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: crazyivan on October 28, 2010, 09:41:55 PM
It can be annoying when ppl .ef before a bomb kills them.  
It's also annoying having a gv fight and getting bombed. Works both ways, especially when there's other eny planes in the area. The only advantage a gver gets is on his own turf. When he's attacking  he's fair bait/ i mean game. Whine away!
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 28, 2010, 10:04:13 PM
It's also annoying having a gv fight and getting bombed. Works both ways, especially when there's other eny planes in the area. The only advantage a gver gets is on his own turf. When he's attacking  he's fair bait/ i mean game. Whine away!

Killing GV is a lot harder then one thinks. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: CAP1 on October 28, 2010, 10:39:13 PM
Killing GV is a lot harder then one thinks. 

i know i can't do it.......
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Yeager on October 29, 2010, 12:26:26 AM
I love tanking and I love killing tanks.  As I said before I try not to take the cheap way out and tower after a bomb(s) is dropped towards me.  Half the time I make it and survive.   A quarter of the time I dont survive....the other 25% consists of the guy dropping bombs on me augering or me getting damaged but still being able to fight. 

I think from my perspective that there is an element of the game that is benifited when I stick it out and either get killed or end up surviving the attack, with or without a kill.  When I tower out I feel like I am going against what the game is all about.......you know, what part of the game is furthered when I take the cheap easy way out and simply .ef before I am killed? 

So, in summary: Play the game honestly.  If a guy has worked himself into a position where I am in danger of his attack then he deserves a chance to kill me.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: kvuo75 on October 29, 2010, 08:34:47 AM
Killing GV is a lot harder then one thinks. 

no it aint.

in fact it's quite easy.



Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: jamdive on October 29, 2010, 08:45:59 AM
I rarely do this.  I just suck it up and either try to move fast or hope the attacker drops too wide or too low.

Bailing from a tank is the same to me as someone who bails from their LANCs the moment they are done dropping bombs.  It cheapens the entire experience.

No, to me bombing a ground battle for the sake of just being a bombering twit is the lamest form. Lamer than all your petty cries of people ho-tarding you.
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: oakranger on October 29, 2010, 09:42:22 AM
no it aint.

in fact it's quite easy.





Prof. 
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: kvuo75 on October 29, 2010, 03:40:22 PM
Prof. 

???
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: Dr_Death8 on October 29, 2010, 03:44:19 PM
No, to me bombing a ground battle for the sake of just being a bombering twit is the lamest form. Lamer than all your petty cries of people ho-tarding you.
Careful now, you have done it before....  :bolt: :salute


...then again, not in a lame way. Usually because we knocked out your hanger.  :neener: :salute
Title: Re: GV ejectors
Post by: bmwgs on October 29, 2010, 05:11:33 PM
Careful now, you have done it before....  :bolt: :salute


...then again, not in a lame way. Usually because we knocked out your hanger.  :neener: :salute


Naw, he has done it with the hangers up.   :D

Fred