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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: sirvlad on October 27, 2010, 01:43:38 PM
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1 arena cap 170/100 can`t get in that arena but wait theres another arena 24/150 gee divide that by 3 and there`s 8 players per country.Getting so tired of this stupid idea of arena caps,there never seems to be a problem on titanic tuesday with the amount of players in 1 arena.What can we do about this,i know there`s numberous post about it.RANT OVER..I`m out :cheers:
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1 arena cap 170/100 can`t get in that arena but wait theres another arena 24/150 gee divide that by 3 and there`s 8 players per country.Getting so tired of this stupid idea of arena caps,there never seems to be a problem on titanic tuesday with the amount of players in 1 arena.What can we do about this,i know there`s numberous post about it.RANT OVER..I`m out :cheers:
So tired of the :cry
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moin
i totaly agry with you sirvlad, cant understand the way HTC is going and cant understand some people still have no problem with this situation.
maybe thay dont knew the old days and how much fun it was in Aces High.
cu chris3
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MidWar is in rock&roll mode with 24 total peeps on.
8 vs 8 vs 8 can make for some serious fighting if everyone knows their stuff.
Having said that, yeah....sounds HTC might want to go to one single LW arena.
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moin
sure 1 vs 1 is coole too sometime but if im searching for a smal fight i can go play IL 2 sturmovik.
did i understand this right HTC is planigh to get back to a singel LW arena?
cu chris3
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moin
i totaly agry with you sirvlad, cant understand the way HTC is going and cant understand some people still have no problem with this situation.
maybe thay dont knew the old days and how much fun it was in Aces High.
cu chris3
Having played this game longer than you have, I do remember the old days and how much fun it was (and still is) but I still don't have any issues with the arena caps as they don't affect me at all. Though, I will admit that the Euro players are given the short end by having the caps in place when it's the Euro prime time and not enough players. That's the only problem I see with the caps.
ack-ack
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I like the caps, makes it hard to horde until one of the countries reaches critical mass. Most likely that'll be in Orange, so I'll see you wall in blue!
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did i understand this right HTC is planigh to get back to a singel LW arena?
No.
As far as I know, HTC has not announced anything like that.
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I like the caps, makes it hard to horde until one of the countries reaches critical mass. Most likely that'll be in Orange, so I'll see you wall in blue!
And yet, all I ever see is either hoards, or planes diving in from the stratosphere trying to kill radar. Fighting is dead in the MAs. Its the last resort after getting too slow to run and your friends are long gone. The caps have done nothing to change anything since the game and the people have not changed. Less people in an arena does not change the mentality or the objective of the game. Instead of 3 hoards attacking 3 fields we have 1 attacking 1 field. Big deal. With more people on the better chance to find a few that are willing to fight. With less, even less.
The mid war is worse. 20 players on the other day and the only place to see a red con was at a vulched field.
All the caps do is make it easy on the FE. Other than that, nothing was accomplished. If HT is trying to change behavior he needs to try something else. Maybe change the objectives of the game or scoring or who knows. All I know is that I behave the same way when 20 people are around and when 100 are around. I don;t see how less people in an arena changes behavior.
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I like the caps, makes it hard to horde until one of the countries reaches critical mass. Most likely that'll be in Orange, so I'll see you wall in blue!
As a former EW player I know: Hording is not depending on huge numbers. With only 24 players, it's quite easy to run into numbers like 16-6-2.
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As a former EW player I know: Hording is not depending on huge numbers. With only 24 players, it's quite easy to run into numbers like 16-6-2.
And often the norm too.
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"Having is not so pleasing a thing as wanting; it is not logical but it is often true."
There will always be people whining no matter what area set-up we have. There will never be a way to please everyone, ever. Some may remember "the good ol days" with 1 arena, but consider this, how many people have come and gone since then? How have the ways of the players changed due to the times since 5-10 years ago? We don't have everyone we did back then for "the good days" people have changed and it will never be the same again, 1 arena will not change that. The same concepts of communications apply here, it is unrepeatable, unavoidable, and irreversible. The "good ol days" can't be repeated, it's unavoidable that things will change, and it can't be changed back to how it was.
Until someone can find a viable and original idea for arenas, this is HiTech's way of keeping the majority happy. Do you hate the caps, really hate them? No, because you still play. You still manage to find a slice of fun in between the 'hatred' of the caps, enough fun to keep you coming back. I do agree that changing the cap "time" may help, but they do not affect me, thus I don't mind if they change or not.
:salute
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I'm guessing 500 more threads with the same whine will surely make a difference :)
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I'm guessing 500 more threads with the same whine will surely make a difference :)
I hope so. ;)
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I'm guessing 500 more threads with the same whine will surely make a difference :)
I guess its a whine because you don't agree with it? Have you gotten your cookie yet?
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I'm guessing 500 more threads with the same whine will surely make a difference :)
What was it HiTech said (or what he quoted)? The definition of Insane is repeating the same action and expecting different results? :)
I forget the exact wording.
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Why don't all of you get together and make another WWII flight sim game. With yalls outstanding insight into the correct way to run a business, I'm sure it would outstrip AH in no time at all.
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:rolleyes:
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I've never liked the caps.
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That is what I thought..... no chance in h e dbl hockeysticks.
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Thanks for the great input shuffler!! I`ll put that on my to-do list.
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Horde= more kills :aok :D :bolt:
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I'm guessing 500 more threads with the same whine will surely make a difference :)
Isn't that how we got the caps in the 1st place??
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Isn't that how we got the caps in the 1st place??
I don't believe it is actually.
edited to clarify.
I work with teenagers. I have for the last 25 years. I wish I had a nickel for every kid who was there a day and knew exactly what was wrong with the program and what we needed to do differently to make it better for them. I'd probably own my own P38 by now. In the end you do what's best long term for those kids, even if they don't like the short term impact.
Hitech's been doing this a long time. His responsibility is to his business, the people he works with and the long term survival of that business. Folks seem to think that the staff over there is removed from the game somehow and doesn't know what goes on. How dumb is that? You have to believe that they are in the arena's often, paying attention to the gameplay and the actions of the players. I'd imagine that they have folks within the game whose opinions they trust to get input from. In the end, the buck still stops with Hitech. To think that he jumps at every whine thread, whether it be from a 'furballer' or a "win the war" guy is ridiculous if not a backhanded insult to the guys who built the game.
Give them a little more credit for knowing what is best for their business.
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I don't believe it is actually.
So HT out of the clear blue, with absolutely no whining, one day had an epiphany? It smells "unhealthy" in here, lets try messin with the caps!
Even if HT himself said that whining had nothing to do with the changes we see in this game, i wouldn't believe it. Not for a second.
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So HT out of the clear blue, with absolutely no whining, one day had an epiphany? It smells "unhealthy" in here, lets try messin with the caps!
Even if HT himself said that whining had nothing to do with the changes we see in this game, i wouldn't believe it. Not for a second.
Read my edit to the above post. I was trying to beat ya to a reply :)
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I usually try to tell people to avoid CAPS as it's generally a distraction and if they state they're on a bombing run I will advise they also bomb their CAPS LOCK key.
Whoops... wrong CAPS, backing away from a #2 violation, carry on.
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No.
As far as I know, HTC has not announced anything like that.
I wonder what kind of sample size HTC is working with when they say "We saw numbers jump after we implemented caps!"
Maybe it was just a coincidence, completely independent of the fact they implemented the caps. Based on your arena kills charts, it looked like they had numbers jump up for about 5-6 months after they implemented, except that the trend was already increasing at the time. It's the equivalent of gambling with your lucky shoes on, cuz you won a lot of money wearing them once, and you don't want to jinx it.
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Too many times I can't get into an arena and fly with my squad mate because of the caps. Very frustrating. Do away with EW and MW arenas as no one's in there. Combine both LW arenas just like on Titanic Tuesday or the CON arena and let the fun begin.
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I wonder what kind of sample size HTC is working with when they say "We saw numbers jump after we implemented caps!"
Maybe it was just a coincidence, completely independent of the fact they implemented the caps. Based on your arena kills charts, it looked like they had numbers jump up for about 5-6 months after they implemented, except that the trend was already increasing at the time. It's the equivalent of gambling with your lucky shoes on, cuz you won a lot of money wearing them once, and you don't want to jinx it.
Kill numbers are just that. You could have 800,000 kills, with 90% of them being 2-weekers on free trial, and you could have 400,000 kills with of them 90% regular subscribers.
HTC, as a business, is probably basing it's decisions more on actual subscriptions and some kind of "player retainment rate" (have no better English phrase at hand)
But I feel uncomfortable when conjecturing about that business part, because... it's just conjecture. No data, no clue on my side about that ;)
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Too many times I can't get into an arena and fly with my squad mate because of the caps. Very frustrating. Do away with EW and MW arenas as no one's in there. Combine both LW arenas just like on Titanic Tuesday or the CON arena and let the fun begin.
What would you gain by removing EW & MW? :huh
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What would you gain by removing EW & MW? :huh
more kills? :D