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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: grizz441 on October 30, 2010, 01:00:28 PM
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What gives with the radar in the MA? Is it supposed to be that a sector filled with cons with altitude only shows a single sliver of dar or is this a bug? It has been like this for months now. It is ridiculous.
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I've seen DAR problems for a while as well......... With using PM's and screenie's, working with the enemy, I have seen DAR differences based on country. The Bar DAR is not always the same for each country it seems.
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IIRC it started happening with the new radar settings in June. It seems to be on a FSO style delay, although there was no mention of it in the announcenment:
We're using some new radar settings for the main arenas.
The radar deck has been lowered to 65 feet above ground
level and will require challenging nap of the earth
flying to stay below radar.
Tower based radar range has been increased to 20 miles.
You can view the radar distances right clicking on the
clipboard map and selecting Radar from the display
settings menu.
Darbar also seems to update at different times for each player. RT has a squad con back in August and you could walk around the room and see the different screens showing very different darbars for the same sectors.
Maybe an unintended consequence? I can't see any added value to gameplay with the delay as it is.
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Interesting.
POTW will have 20+ players on their VOX channel. The past few months everyone has accepted this to be a map bug. At least once an evening dar inconsistancies will be a real topic when we cannot coordinate our efforts. Not everyone sees the same numbers of red cons or same size red bar or some inconsistancy. In the end we don't care because our goal is picking fights to get as many players into a sector as possible to have fun.
We always wondered why HiTech didn't place a special color and icon radar shape on Grizz so everyone had a chance to run and hide....... :angel:
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The way is usually works for me is base flashing, radar down, no darbar, no GV spawn. I drop to 3K to find what's coming NOE and get jumped by a 12K pony and Typhie.
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LOL... I think I remember that convo. :D
The way is usually works for me is base flashing, radar down, no darbar, no GV spawn. I drop to 3K to find what's coming NOE and get jumped by a 12K pony and Typhie.
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The reason you see the darbar where it seems to be on the fritz is this:
The Darbar alt was never changed, while the radar detection was changed. It is now down to 65ft. The Darbar is activated above 500ft, so if you have a low alt fight inside a dar ring without killing the dar... then you're going to see a million and one red dots with little or no darbar.
I also find some NoE missions hilarious for this reason... They stay under 500ft, but above 65 and think they are being slick.
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You're not actually reading anybody's conversation are you?
The reason you see the darbar where it seems to be on the fritz is this:
The Darbar alt was never changed, while the radar detection was changed. It is now down to 65ft. The Darbar is activated above 500ft, so if you have a low alt fight inside a dar ring without killing the dar... then you're going to see a million and one red dots with little or no darbar.
I also find some NoE missions hilarious for this reason... They stay under 500ft, but above 65 and think they are being slick.
You, and me, flying different countries, will see a totally different bar DAR representation. Even if we fly the same country our dar BAR will be totally diff. We proved that one in August.
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The reason you see the darbar where it seems to be on the fritz is this:
No, it's not ;)
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You're not actually reading anybody's conversation are you?
You, and me, flying different countries, will see a totally different bar DAR representation. Even if we fly the same country our dar BAR will be totally diff. We proved that one in August.
I'm just speaking from experience. I never have dar issues. Though I do hear alot of this conversation. This is the reason I found, or at least all the evidence I've personally experienced has pointed to such. If it's not an all inclusive experience, I apologize for treating it as such.
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I'm just speaking from experience. I never have dar issues.
Then you are lucky. I have been alone in sector at 15K going in to a base to pork ord. No dar bar at all. Get close to base and then dar bar appears as well as the con also at 15K.
Have had squaddies over enemy field say "dang look at all those red planes", and as I am upping from neighboring field while I might have a full green dar bar, there is only one notch of red over that enemy field. Get close to the field and then it adjusts. It is not representative of reality as it stands now and has been this way far too long.
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I'm just wondering because it has been like this for a few months now. Apparently HTC thinks the players are just complete morons when they report things like this.
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I'm just wondering because it has been like this for a few months now. Apparently HTC thinks the players are just complete morons when they report things like this.
You're leaving out a lot of other reasons why HTC might think the players are complete morons. But darbar is definitely not updating like it used to before June. I might have to start flying with a butler like everyone else.
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You're leaving out a lot of other reasons why HTC might think the players are complete morons.
True.
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I'm just wondering because it has been like this for a few months now. Apparently HTC thinks the players are just complete morons when they report things like this.
Remember Ren. :uhoh
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We always wondered why HiTech didn't place a special color and icon radar shape on Grizz so everyone had a chance to run and hide....... :angel:
Bustr i can help you with this, any time I'm on and you wanna know where Grizz is just ask me on 200. ill be more than happy to rat him out.... :huh :headscratch:....oops, i mean aid you in coordinating your location to intersect with his so that you may maximize you fights and fun! :airplane: :joystick: :airplane: i mean he is my squaddie after all, i should do all i can to increase his fun factor right? :banana: :banana: :banana:
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The way is usually works for me is base flashing, radar down, no darbar, no GV spawn. I drop to 3K to find what's coming NOE and get jumped by a 12K pony and Typhie.
I have seen it just as you described, there have also been times where there was absolutely no DAR bar or maybe even 1 small dar that usually represents 1 con in that area, upon arrival you will find at least 8 guys at 5-15K as you get closer within dot range. Very strange indeed. :headscratch:
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This is just a nefarious plan by HTC to make us scan the skys visually.
In this age of cutbacks they want to save on the Hydro bill by
shutting down the Radar over time completely.
:noid
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heres a good idea... dont rely on radar and rely on your freaking SA... ive trained myself to scan the skies around me constantly while flying even in groups. im one of the people who call contacts before the others... its simple. just LOOK instead of reading the map.
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heres a good idea... dont rely on radar and rely on your freaking SA... ive trained myself to scan the skies around me constantly while flying even in groups. im one of the people who call contacts before the others... its simple. just LOOK instead of reading the map.
My freakin sa won't help me choosing the best fight from the tower when I can't tell if there are actually bad guys in the sector. Thanks for the fabulous suggestion though, since my sa sucks and all. :rolleyes:
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My freakin sa won't help me choosing the best fight from the tower when I can't tell if there are actually bad guys in the sector. Thanks for the fabulous suggestion though, since my sa sucks and all. :rolleyes:
wasnt sayin you. saying everyone else :D didnt know that radar was that bad...
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wasnt sayin you. saying everyone else :D didnt know that radar was that bad...
Why post then? The obvious context of the thread was finding a fight, or defending a base that needs it.
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Remember Ren. :uhoh
Ren shot his own foot off with a howitzer, grizz is taking the BB-Gun approach.
ack-ack
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Ren shot his own foot off with a howitzer, grizz is taking the BB-Gun approach.
ack-ack
You think if we smuggled a nuke into Grizz's happy time hangout we could turn the dar back on and stop hiding from him. This BB-Gun approach is gonna take too dern long. Some of have started thinking we are U-Boat captains because weve been hiding under the water for the last 6 months.
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Ren shot his own foot off with a howitzer, grizz is taking the BB-Gun approach.
ack-ack
:lol
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I am hoping its not a bug and that it gets left alone just like it is. :aok
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wasnt sayin you. saying everyone else :D didnt know that radar was that bad...
Hump many ankles?
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Hump many ankles?
Didn't you know if you anger the grizz he rains down hell fire with a mighty vengeance. Ask Schowoly4 :noid
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LOL
Skuzzy moved this thread from General Discussion to Bugs Forum... and Superfly just moved it back :rofl
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LOL
Skuzzy moved this thread from General Discussion to Bugs Forum... and Superfly just moved it back :rofl
Trying to hide it from some one maybe? :lol
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Fix yo SA Grizz! :lol
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Hot Hot Hot Potato................. :D
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Hot Hot Hot Potato................. :D
:rofl :rofl
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I really don't understand why HTC won't at least say that they are looking into this rather than bouncing it back and forth between forums. The fact of the matter is it's broken and it definitely affects one's ability to read the map and find a fight. If the dar bar is not going to work, what is the point in having it?
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And back to Bug Reports... I vote this "thread most moved in 2010" :noid
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And back to Bug Reports... I vote this "thread most moved in 2010" :noid
+1 :x
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I have some film Of the Radar problems if needed. I have an enemy con in sight as a dot, and no flash on dar, the con was 6-10k and he was halfway into the circle..
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Another situation that seems to occur at times also: (Read HTC this is important mkay?)
- I will be sitting in the tower looking at a fight where my squaddies are flying and I will see a single sliver of red dar(or no dar). I ask if there are bad guys there and they say the sector is completely filled with cons and that on their end they see a full dar.
- I will be entering a sector when very little dar shows and as soon as I cross the sector boundary line, the dar immediately jumps up to its actual amount.
HiTech, this all started when you implemented the new NOE radar changes. You must have goofed up a conditional statement or something because radar's behavior is very strange and non consistent now.
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Another situation that seems to occur at times also: (Read HTC this is important mkay?)
- I will be sitting in the tower looking at a fight where my squaddies are flying and I will see a single sliver of red dar(or no dar). I ask if there are bad guys there and they say the sector is completely filled with cons and that on their end they see a full dar.
- I will be entering a sector when very little dar shows and as soon as I cross the sector boundary line, the dar immediately jumps up to its actual amount.
HiTech, this all started when you implemented the new NOE radar changes. You must have goofed up a conditional statement or something because radar's behavior is very strange and non consistent now.
The non responce may be a situation were they are experimenting Unbeknown to us with radar?
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...because radar's behavior is very strange and non consistent now.
So the radar is acting as inconsistently and with difficulties similiar to the way it was back in the 1940s.... :bolt:
P.S.- Besides Grizz, Jeeps don't show up in the DAR. :neener: :salute
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Since last version Dar Bars have been practically useless. It used to be accurate and timely, now it shows for some people and not others, a small dar might represent anything now or nothing, it either needs to be restored to original quality ( 3 months ago) or gotten rid of.
:cheers:
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Twice...... Tuesday night! :aok
I will be sitting in the tower looking at a fight where my squaddies are flying and I will see a single sliver of red dar(or no dar). I ask if there are bad guys there and they say the sector is completely filled with cons and that on their end they see a full dar.
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This is still happening after latest release. No nme darbar, then boom, two cons 10K.