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Title: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: tassos on November 01, 2010, 08:05:30 AM
B17j Aka Wulf Hunt
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac129/tsss_2010/b_1713.jpg)
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac129/tsss_2010/b_17.jpg)
P38G
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac129/tsss_2010/p38.jpg)
P51D
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac129/tsss_2010/ami2.jpg)
Spitzfeuer
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac129/tsss_2010/spit_color.jpg)
B24
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac129/tsss_2010/b_24.jpg)
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: lyric1 on November 01, 2010, 08:47:19 AM
Captured skins not permitted. Sorry.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: VonMessa on November 01, 2010, 08:51:21 AM
Put that crap away before you give the S.A.P.P guys a heart-attack !

 :noid
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Knite on November 01, 2010, 08:55:08 AM
Captured skins not allowed, but that 38 is pretty nice lookin....
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: JOACH1M on November 01, 2010, 11:22:57 AM
I'm liking the 38 and spit :)
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: DrBone1 on November 01, 2010, 01:18:31 PM
bit weird to see them on Allied planes but they do look pretty cool  :aok
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Dichotomy on November 01, 2010, 02:08:46 PM
hmmmm did they just fly the captured craft for tests or is there any empirical evidence that they were used in combat.  A Google search offered up nothing that I could see.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Dr_Death8 on November 01, 2010, 03:05:09 PM
Goes the other way as well as the US and GB had several 109 and 190s which had their markings.  :salute
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: 68Mason on November 01, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
BF 109F-4 with Australian markings

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg180/masonmccloud/Me-109.jpg)
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Guppy35 on November 01, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
Just about every Allied unit in North Africa, Sicily and Italy had their own 109s and 190s. 

Both sides used them for training.

Glad they don't allow skinning captured birds.  Plenty of skins that ca nbe done besides that.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: oakranger on November 01, 2010, 10:09:43 PM
I like these skins.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,265837.msg3314994.html#msg3314994 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,265837.msg3314994.html#msg3314994)

Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Bruv119 on November 03, 2010, 05:18:14 PM
Put that crap away before you give the S.A.P.P guys a heart-attack !

 :noid

I nearly puked thanks to the 5th picture.   It is just plain wrong and unacceptable to post these pictures in public  :furious
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: JOACH1M on November 03, 2010, 05:58:49 PM
I nearly puked thanks to the 5th picture.   It is just plain wrong and unacceptable to post these pictures in public  :furious
:rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 03, 2010, 06:42:32 PM
The Fuhrer would have loved these...IDF rides.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/gs199.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/israeli-spitfires-1950s.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/mosqitot.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/gp51.jpg)

Interesting link:http://webspace.webring.com/people/uu/um_1109/erlyears.htm

Isrealies shooting down Eqyptian Spits w 109s (Avia S-199 made in Czechoslovakia) And Isrealie Spits shooting down British Egyptian based Spits and a Tempest. Just like the MAs. They even used a few B-17s until 1958.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: BrownBaron on November 03, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
The Fuhrer would have loved these...IDF rides.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/gs199.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/israeli-spitfires-1950s.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/mosqitot.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/gp51.jpg)

Interesting link:http://webspace.webring.com/people/uu/um_1109/erlyears.htm

Isrealies shooting down Eqyptian Spits w 109s (Avia S-199 made in Czechoslovakia) And Isrealie Spits shooting down British Egyptian based Spits and a Tempest. Just like the MAs. They even used a few B-17s until 1958.

All post war. Notice that the S.199 is simply a 109 fuselage. It is equiped with the same Heinkel engines the He 111's were, which gave it terrible handleing. The supercharger, and center firing 20mm MG 151/20 was no longer equipable, and the 20mm gondolas became mandatory. In essence, a completely new animal aside from the main fuselage.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 03, 2010, 07:28:11 PM
I'm well aware of that~All the information is in the link. They are cool skins though Brown and it is interesting to ponder the combat life these birds had into the 50's. I'm not in any way suggesting them for AH. The S.199's engine also had considerably less power, but it did manage to shoot down an Egyptian Spit  :lol
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Motherland on November 03, 2010, 08:15:14 PM
I like these skins.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,265837.msg3314994.html#msg3314994 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,265837.msg3314994.html#msg3314994)


It's not really the same thing, the Swiss employed those 109s in shooting down intruders over their airspace throughout the war.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 03, 2010, 08:30:35 PM
Amigo, Switzerland was not an active combatant in WWII, though they were in many cases pro German, intercepting wayward and damaged US bombers over their airspace to land with the crews being interned as pows for the duration of the war. Some of the Swiss prison camps were reported to be much worse than their German counterparts and were in some cases operated by Swiss Nazis, not to mention the complicity in robbing European Jewry.

You can make any skin you like and fly it offline. I'd be pretty surprised if they changed their policy.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Motherland on November 03, 2010, 09:58:25 PM
Amigo, Switzerland was not an active combatant in WWII, though they were in many cases pro German, intercepting wayward and damaged US bombers over their airspace to land with the crews being interned as pows for the duration of the war. Some of the Swiss prison camps were reported to be much worse than their German counterparts and were in some cases operated by Swiss Nazis, not to mention the complicity in robbing European Jewry.

You can make any skin you like and fly it offline. I'd be pretty surprised if they changed their policy.
The largest combats that the Swiss pilots were involved with were against the Luftwaffe during the Battle of France.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Swiss_Air_Force#World_War_II
Switzerland simply did not take kindly to their airspace being infiltrated, and they didn't put up with it.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: USRanger on November 03, 2010, 10:21:37 PM
Courtesy of Greebo for one of my offline missions:

(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4294/72909202.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/72909202.jpg/)

Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 04, 2010, 12:49:13 AM
Hey Ranger,

How close is your new Pacific Terrain to debuting? I'd love to see a New Guinea/ Battle for Lea Sept. '43 with P-47's and P-38's covering a beachhead assault.

~Seadog36
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: USRanger on November 04, 2010, 10:17:42 AM
Should be submitted in about a week, maybe less. That's the terrain in the B-24 pic.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 04, 2010, 12:05:48 PM
Trieze69 submitted a really nice and appropriate P-47d11 skin for the Pacific Arena. Anyway to push for it's release to coincide with your terrain?

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,299598.msg3834403.html#msg3834403

Regards and outstanding work. See you in the next event.

~Seadog36
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Motherland on November 04, 2010, 02:55:23 PM
I remember Skuzzy saying something about not liking to rotate skins anymore because someone always complains about the skin being taken out.
I haven't had even skins of mine that I didn't like rotated out with better ones that I've done after requesting so in the submission.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 04, 2010, 03:17:21 PM
I heard that same story too but it seems like they make much more dramatic changes to the game distressing some and pleasing most. They should freshen up some of theses skins, some of the older ones are pretty poor resolution and detail.

Btw, If you are Bubi~ I fly your 1/JG51 190 skin all the time.

I'll keep being a squeaky wheel until then.

 :salute ~Seadog36
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 05, 2010, 07:45:48 AM
So.. If we can't have a Swiss skin on a 109, then why do we have an Iraq skin on the 110C? Just trying make a point  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Larry on November 05, 2010, 11:03:54 AM
You can make any skin you like and fly it offline. I'd be pretty surprised if they changed their policy.

So.. If we can't have a Swiss skin on a 109, then why do we have an Iraq skin on the 110C? Just trying make a point  :rolleyes:

We can have a Swiss skin on 109s.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Seadog36 on November 05, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
We can have a Swiss skin on 109s.

Good, when Larry?
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Larry on November 05, 2010, 12:07:21 PM
When someone makes one.  :)


Airmess (think that's his name) used to have one on the E-4 before the remodel.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Krusty on November 05, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
Airmess' Swiss 109E4 was a long time ago. I believe they don't allow neutral nation markings anymore (they specifically declined one of my Spanish skins, as well as I seem to recall mention from Airmess about his Swiss skin being rejected when the planes were remodeled).

We haven't had a Swiss skin for the E-4 since probably 2005 or whenever those 109s were redone.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: slayer1 on November 05, 2010, 09:18:45 PM
BF 109F-4 with Australian markings

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg180/masonmccloud/Me-109.jpg)


thats british not australia, look at the serial and the roundel

~slayer1~
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 05, 2010, 10:11:19 PM
why do we have an Iraq skin on the 110C?

The Anglo-Iraqi War-2 May to 31 May 1941 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iraqi_War)

Quote
Fliegerführer Irak
Also on 6 May Luftwaffe Colonel Werner Junck received orders that he was to take a small force to Iraq, where they were to operate out of Mosul. The British quickly learned of the German arrangements through intercepted Italian diplomatic transmissions. Between 10 and 15 May the aircraft arrived in Mosul via Vichy French airbases, in Syria, and then commenced regular aerial attacks on British forces. The arrival of these aircraft was the direct result of fevered consultations between Baghdad and Berlin in the days following Air Vice-Marshal Smart's strikes on the Iraqi forces above Habbaniya. The Luftwaffe force, under the direction of Lieutenant General Hans Jeschonnek, was named "Flyer Command Iraq" (Fliegerführer Irak)[nb 13] and was under the tactical command of Colonel Werner Junck. At least 20 bombers were initially promised however in the end Junck's unit consisted of between 21 and 29 aircraft all painted with Royal Iraqi Air Force markings.[

That's why we have an Iraq skin.



wrongway
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Imowface on November 08, 2010, 12:49:28 PM
I had asked for Finish T-34's awhile back and was told that they couldnt be used, and the finns actually used them in numbers
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Larry on November 08, 2010, 06:39:41 PM
But did they capture them or buy them from the Russians?
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: Krusty on November 08, 2010, 08:22:32 PM
^-- what he said :)

They have to be legitimately ordered, built, bought, bartered, etc. No captured skins.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: STXAce8 on November 14, 2010, 08:25:16 AM
hmmmm did they just fly the captured craft for tests or is there any empirical evidence that they were used in combat.  A Google search offered up nothing that I could see.

I remember I heard somewhere that the Luftwaffe used captured 17s and 24s to radio course and altitude to the guyson the ground to shoot them down. But when the allies found they couldn't make radio contact with them they shot them down.
Title: Re: Axis skins on Alies planes
Post by: BrownBaron on November 14, 2010, 09:44:56 PM
I remember I heard somewhere that the Luftwaffe used captured 17s and 24s to radio course and altitude to the guyson the ground to shoot them down. But when the allies found they couldn't make radio contact with them they shot them down.

Yep. Kampfgeschwader 200.

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg1439.jpg)