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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dadsguns on November 02, 2010, 06:07:13 PM
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Please donate any empty boxes you have ...... Send them to Washington DC they are in need of them now and until the end of the week. ;)
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meh I'm just checking if prop 19 will pass...
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meh I'm just checking if prop 19 will pass...
It doesn't look like it will, especially with the majority growers and medical dispensaries against it. Personally, I'm on the fence as the main rally cry of that it will lead to a landfall of money from taxing pot isn't true nor will it make pot legal throughout the state of California. If Prop 19 passes, it will be up to individual communities to decide whether or not to legalize and tax pot within their community. For example, El Segundo could legalize it while the city next door, Manhatten Beach can keep it illegal.
The main revenue from Prop 19 won't be taxes because in reality, the $ amount is not all that much in state taxes and I think is forecasted to be less than $500 million, far lower than the billions often thrown around by those in favor of Prop 19. The main revenue will be from the money saved from law enforcement since a lot of police won't be needed anymore if communities decide to legalize it. The money saved is forecasted to be more than the tax revenue.
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I put a yes for 19. Mostly because I see it as a joke how people are being taken to jail for 3 hots and a cot over a plant. That money could be spent elsewhere, such as education. I myself am ashamed to admit I'm a product of the California Public Educational System.
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The main revenue will be from the money saved from law enforcement since a lot of police won't be needed anymore if communities decide to legalize it. The money saved is forecasted to be more than the tax revenue.
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on this assumption i believe you are partially inncorrect. the idea that there will be need of fewer police of any type because they legalize marj is inncorrect. marj is never the sought after drug hunted by the police DEA FBI etc etc. they only bother with weed when they find it by mistake or when they believe that the person they intend to arrest for it can provide information on much bigger crime/drugs i.e. coke heroin guns murder etc. if they legalize marj then they will still need the personal they currently have to continue looking for the issues that are considered truly severe.
oh and before you mention "well what about the growers"? they only seek growers because growers have connections, it is those connections that they are truly after not the grower him/herself. bulk growers need shippers, those shippers tend to work for more people than just the growers. they work for people who need to move hard core drugs guns and any other illegal substance. oh and even weed dealers need accountants to wash their money, a good money launderer is worth his entire families weight in gold to both cops and crooks.
so my point being that the legalization of marj will not put the slightest dent in the amount of law enforcement officers required. it may cut down on some tiny percentage of court cases, so there will be some savings there, but not much.
oh, and one more thing that people tend to forget/intentionally ignore.
just because something is state legal DOES NOT MEAN IT IS LEGAL!!!!!!!!
the federal government supersedes all state and local laws. the feds are entitled to enforce their own laws even if those laws are in direct contradiction of any local or state regulation. if the feds don't legalize it then you are still at risk possessing and /or using it. granted it wont be much of a risk, but it is a risk that a person should make them selves aware of.
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I saw the empty box thing and knew exactly what this was about...
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Clean up aisle 5....there are several cases of 'whine' to be cleaned up....
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meh I'm just checking if prop 19 will pass...
Just what we need...more people smoking dope and acting stupid...
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This year sets new records when it comes to mid-term spending.
This mid term also showed us you can't buy your way in the governor's seat for $160 million and win.
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I convinced my parents to vote no on prop 19. The last thing Mexico needs is for us to legalize the funding of the cartels that terrorize their country.
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This just in (prop19)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/
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I convinced my parents to vote no on prop 19. The last thing Mexico needs is for us to legalize the funding of the cartels that terrorize their country.
I think we allready fund all the cartels in latin america. and most of the plants produced in this country are locally grown. and If i remember correctly from when i was younger, ca produces one of the best products around.
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I think we allready fund all the cartels in latin america. and most of the plants produced in this country are locally grown. and If i remember correctly from when i was younger, ca produces one of the best products around.
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By when you were younger, do you mean when you were around nine? Because I honestly think your around thirteen years this year.
Either way, nine is QUITE a young age to start smoking pot. Gotta get em while they're young, I suppose the motto is?
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It doesn't look like it will, especially with the majority growers and medical dispensaries against it. Personally, I'm on the fence as the main rally cry of that it will lead to a landfall of money from taxing pot isn't true nor will it make pot legal throughout the state of California. If Prop 19 passes, it will be up to individual communities to decide whether or not to legalize and tax pot within their community. For example, El Segundo could legalize it while the city next door, Manhatten Beach can keep it illegal.
The main revenue from Prop 19 won't be taxes because in reality, the $ amount is not all that much in state taxes and I think is forecasted to be less than $500 million, far lower than the billions often thrown around by those in favor of Prop 19. The main revenue will be from the money saved from law enforcement since a lot of police won't be needed anymore if communities decide to legalize it. The money saved is forecasted to be more than the tax revenue.
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Pot tourism Would also be a huge source of revenue for California. I for one would be up there every weekend. :D
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Unfortunately, it would still be illegal for anyone that has a job where your going to be tested no matter what California may do at a state level.
If the Federal government wanted to play hard ball, and I am surprised that they have not yet, any and all federal funding could be at risk that goes to CA.
Its what happened to LA years ago when the state was reluctant in changing the minimum drinking age to 21 for so many years and nearly lost federal funding for roads etc. etc.
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Unfortunately, it would still be illegal for anyone that has a job where your going to be tested no matter what California may do at a state level.
If the Federal government wanted to play hard ball, and I am surprised that they have not yet, any and all federal funding could be at risk that goes to CA.
Its what happened to LA years ago when the state was reluctant in changing the minimum drinking age to 21 for so many years and nearly lost federal funding for roads etc. etc.
Well ya don't smoke if your being drug tested, that's a no-brainer.
I doubt any funding would be cut off with the current administration. The justice department doesn't go after compassion clubs anymore, but under bush they did. It all depends on who's in charge at the moment.
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By when you were younger, do you mean when you were around nine? Because I honestly think your around thirteen years this year.
Either way, nine is QUITE a young age to start smoking pot. Gotta get em while they're young, I suppose the motto is?
thats for addictive things, which pot isnt.
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Land Wracker Taking over I will send Boxes with Brain for the New ones
-Hey someone of the Country Wrackers said he can Magic and can recover the country faster than O.
-Yes we beleve in the red Superman and UFO s
...No we Cant
2005 was a fail...lets do it again
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I convinced my parents to vote no on prop 19. The last thing Mexico needs is for us to legalize the funding of the cartels that terrorize their country.
But if it would be legalized, it then could be grown by people in the United States. Hence it could be regulated, controlled, and taxed.
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Right now the only option is to buy from the cartels. ( if you cant find the homegrown)
Just like during Prohibition the only option was to buy from the mob.
Legalization would put the money into hard working, green thumb'd Americans pockets.
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Lol, what amazes me is how many dope experts we have here...
"Like hey man, I love dis new B-17 simpit you got bro"
(http://boxothoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cc_upinsmoke_ms_5.jpg)
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Pot tourism Would also be a huge source of revenue for California. I for one would be up there every weekend. :D
Kalifornia is already pushing tourist away since they only allow thieves and illegals to carry guns.
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Right now the only option is to buy from the cartels. ( if you cant find the homegrown)
Just like during Prohibition the only option was to buy from the mob.
Legalization would put the money into hard working, green thumb'd Americans pockets.
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Lol, what amazes me is how many dope experts we have here...
"Like hey man, I love dis new B-17 simpit you got bro"
You don't need to be an expert to figure out that the current tactics used in the war on drugs don't work. What different course should be adopted (either harsher or more lenient) is up for debate, but is there really anyone out there that honestly believes we should keep doing the exact same thing we've been doing?
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I convinced my parents to vote no on prop 19. The last thing Mexico needs is for us to legalize the funding of the cartels that terrorize their country.
You do know that the majority of marijuana sold in California is home grown, correct? LOL!
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only if i was president, legalize it ban hard liquor, ban men who like other men, id allow women who like other women tho, and best of all-when u goto jail it wont be all nice n clean n warm roof over ur head ill throw all the jailbirds ona remote island n they cud fend for themselves :aok
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You do know that the majority of marijuana sold in California is home grown, correct? LOL!
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i was waiting for someone with a clue to bring that up lol, when the best is grown from Cali to Washington into Canada, inside and outside, the general public is so clueless, but if that's what your feed i guess you'll believe it, who would buy Mexican crap anyways
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By when you were younger, do you mean when you were around nine? Because I honestly think your around thirteen years this year.
Either way, nine is QUITE a young age to start smoking pot. Gotta get em while they're young, I suppose the motto is?
Eskimo, no need to harrass me. Stop being a jerk. I only tried to help you. Last time I was 13 was in 1978.
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I convinced my parents to vote no on prop 19. The last thing Mexico needs is for us to legalize the funding of the cartels that terrorize their country.
Legalized marijuana in the US would cut down on any need to import from Mexico. It would have the exact opposite effect of what you're fear mongering.
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In the second year since medical marijuana in california had been legalized and been in effect, almost a billion dollars in sales tax revenue generated in our state came from the general sales tax that applies to all medical marijuana sales in our state... and that's not taking into consideration dispenceries that probabley don't pay any or near all the sales tax they should of paid to the state. Thats a lot of money for only the GI sales tax this state has on all goods, and this is only for those of us individuals that have seen a doctor and gotten a perscription for the stuff.
I think prop 19 didn't pass because those that are onthe fence on the issue weren't happy with how it was worded. Now, we propose something on the ballots in a couple more years that is a gradual (and not instant) legalization of marijuana over a couple year period and has things better structured for it, I think we could be very close to legalizing it in this state. As things were, if prop 19 did pass, the feds would of at the very least stepped in to have us better spell out the legislation until it got enacted, if they didn't brick wall it completely.
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i vote sunfan n babalonian pres! 2012!!!!!
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If the legalize and it takes less cops out there, the cops get the jobs at Lowes, and the guy who would have got the job if the cop wasnt there, now sells crack. Now thats trickle down!
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Man. This post reminds me of the good old days...debating with friends on AH OT about political topics, speaking our mind....meeting those we disagreed with at AH cons and drinking a beer with them.
Then it got all shut down.
Oh well. Here's to the good old days of AH OT, <S> all of ya old farts! :cheers: :old:
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Pot tourism.......we have a place near by called Nimbin. People from all over the world flock there with their backpacks and crocks to sit around and smoke pot with the left over hippies, and its not legal.
http://www.nimbinaustralia.com/
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/05/03/nimbin_040508_wideweb__470x315,0.jpg)