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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Latrobe on November 03, 2010, 10:28:33 PM
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Everyone I asked, including HTC, said that CH Pedals are the way to go. Everyone seemed to be very happy with how their CH pedals worked, so I got some CH pedals for myself. I'm not sure what you all see in this product. It only lasted me half a year before it started to act weird on me. Now, almost a full year later, it is beyond my tolerance limit. It continuously becomes uncalibrated mid-flight to the point where I'm not even touching the pedals but my rudder is kicking back and forth like a fish out the the water. Everytime my computer goes to screen saver or sleep mode, the pedals seem to just "disconnect" from the computer and will never respond until I restart the computer. Even when they are working, they aren't working. I can be applying full left rudder, but in game I will only be getting half rudder. I'm not sure why these pedals only lasted my half a year, I took good care of them like I do everything I own. Is that just how long CH products are suppose to last? If that's the case I'm getting Saitek Pedals since my X52 controller is still working like new even after 2 years of use.
Basically, this thing has been an absolute pain in my butt and I'm done with it. I'll just go back to my twisty stick again until I get a new pair of flight pedals.
Just what did you all like about these pedals that I find to be nothing but trouble? :huh And, what would you recommend I look into for new pedals?
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My Simped pedals have been problem free, though I don't know if they are still made.
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Unfortunately, you just got a bad set of pedals, it happens and luckily with CH gear it's a very rare thing. You should have contacted CH support and gotten an RMA to send in your pedals so they could either rebuild it or send you a new set if they couldn't fix yours.
ack-ack
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My Simped pedals have been problem free, though I don't know if they are still made.
They are (http://www.dhs-electronic.de/index2.php?lng=en) :)
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Im on my second pair of CH pedals. When the potentiometer got worn on the first pair after ten years I ordered a new potentiometer installed it and then gave the pedals to a squaddie who is still using them.
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Actually everyone I've talked to says CH sticks are the best.
I've never heard anyone say that CH pedals are. In fact in my opinion Saitek pedals are considerably better than CH.
Pedals in general are going to cause a considerable amount of pain to learn to fly all over again.
The key is to just put in the time, especially in the TA. (not so hard on the ego)
I've been playing with a set of Saitek pedals this week, and for takeoffs and landings I love them.
They are smoother than a twisty could ever hope to be. And the increased realism helps feed my immersion.
Now In combat I'm still having issues twisting my hand like crazy with nothing happening while my feet are 2 min behind going "hey whats up boss? do what? "
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Actually everyone I've talked to says CH sticks are the best.
Now In combat I'm still having issues twisting my hand like crazy with nothing happening while my feet are 2 min behind going "hey whats up boss? do what? "
:rofl......I have a set of Saitek pedals and the exact same thing happens to me
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I've had CH pedals for several years and never had a single problem with them. This is the only time I've ever heard of a CH product being wonky.
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Latrobe it sounds like you have 2 issues.
Check your USB power settings and set them to never go to sleep to save energy.
If your pedals are under warranty you can send them back for repair or replacement. If they are out of warranty just flip them over and take the bottom section off. Look for a chafed or broken wire. If the wires are good you may have a bad rudder pot but they are easy to replace. I have CH pedals that are 10 years old and still work well.
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My CH pedals were kind of acting the same way. I'd be on autopilot, and then all of a sudden the pedal would spike and kick me out. I'd have to stomp each pedal all the way forward and back to get them to act smooth again.
I sent them to CH under warranty, and they came back "nothing's wrong, but we replaced the pots anyway." Were good for a month or two, then started acting up again. I finally got fed up and took them apart - even though they were still under warranty (I think). Looked like the main springs that center the pedals had slipped a little on the mounting pegs. I put them back and they've been good ever since - almost a year now.
I have the full Stick/Throttle/Pedals setup from CH and really like the stick compared to some I've tried. Haven't had any issues with stick or throttle.
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Latrobe it sounds like you have 2 issues.
Check your USB power settings and set them to never go to sleep to save energy.
If your pedals are under warranty you can send them back for repair or replacement. If they are out of warranty just flip them over and take the bottom section off. Look for a chafed or broken wire. If the wires are good you may have a bad rudder pot but they are easy to replace. I have CH pedals that are 10 years old and still work well.
First thing I did was take the bottom off thinking maybe something got inside it. Everything looked fine, just a little dirty. Cleaned it out, and it still act wacky. I don't think I have a warranty of my pedals.
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I've heard nothing but good things about their customer service. Can't hurt to just ask them..
Good luck either way
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First thing I did was take the bottom off thinking maybe something got inside it. Everything looked fine, just a little dirty. Cleaned it out, and it still act wacky. I don't think I have a warranty of my pedals.
If a wire is chafed it would probably be where it goes through the tight slot on the little tabs. You can order a new pot from CH if you want to try a replacement.
The disconnect after sleep or screen saver sounds like the USB power setting issue.
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I've had problems with my x52pro stick connections getting loose and messing up my calibrations, of course mid dogfight. My pro peddles have never been a problem and the throttles have been great too. I am thinking about picking up a CH stick. I don't think I need a Warthog though. I'm finding just the sticks in the $100 range.
Thoughts?
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I got my CH pedals as a door prize at the WarBirds Con in Raleigh back in 2000. The only problem I've had in ten years is that the toe brake function on the right pedal died a few years ago. I've just been too lazy to replace that one pot, so I run both brakes off the left pedal via the AH setup. Silly, I know...
I also have the CH Fighterstick and the Pro Throttle. If I power down my computer but leave the standby power running, all of my USB gear goes wonky, including my TrackIR. Then I have to completely shutdown ALL power. I do not have a problem when my machine goes into screen saver, and I don't use the Windows hibernate or standby.
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My CH stuff has work great for years and years, only had a hat switch get sticky and I replaced it in about 15 minutes.
Is your CH gear run through a POWERED usb hub? I know that if you have a number of USB peripherals hooked to your computer they will do weird stuff. Mine are connected (stick, throttle, and pro pedals) through a Belkin powered hub. I don't even think I've calibrated my stuff in over 3 years. :aok
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Like Bino I bought my CH pedals about ten or more years ago, and the right toe brake died about six months ago. I did have the left set up as both brakes in AH, but for some reason when I do that the brakes are on in FS9. Which makes for a long take off roll. The only other complaint I have about CH pedals is they are too close together for me.
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I've had CH pedals but upgraded to the simpeds, and I'd recommend the simpeds for sure.
Steely
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Those simpeds are just looking more and more beautiful to me now. :aok
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I was going to pull the trigger on the F16/usb Simpeds, but they are shown out of stock.
http://shop.strato.de/epages/219707.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/219707/Products/%22SP%2004%2011%20007%22
Which is probably a good thing since they are over $300 plus the cost of shipping to the U.S.
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For what it's worth, I've had and used my analog CH pedals for around 15 years now, without a hitch. They work as well as when they were new.
Looks like you were unlucky to have gotten an outlier in the production run that had a lousy sigma level. Don't let it sour you on CH products, though. IMO, they are generally very well made and durable products.
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My CH USB Pedals work perfectly, the same as when they got them, albeit only a few years ago compared to some of you that have had yours for 10 years or more. The one thing I've always heard and that I do myself, is connect all my CH gear to a powered USB hub instead of to an unpowered hub or instead of directly to the computer. Its supposed to prevent many of the problems that can be had with them. And powered USB hubs are pretty cheap, check Newegg.com for them.
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Do to a little design flaw that sometimes causes the wires that go into the pedals to get pinched, if you wiggle the cable at the entry point to the pedals it it frees the pinched wires.
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had mine a good 3 years now they are all still working fine. Wouldn't swap them for anything else. :aok
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Do to a little design flaw that sometimes causes the wires that go into the pedals to get pinched, if you wiggle the cable at the entry point to the pedals it it frees the pinched wires.
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Ah so deska! Cool, an excuse to - finally! - get out the wire stripper and the soldering gun. ;)
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Look's like it's a little late to retune them, you could E-bay them and use the ole (don't know what this is? selling for a freind) he,he. If they are already broken, how much more can you and Phillip's tear them up, probly a easy fix!
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Got full CH setup and the pedals work just fine even after one year of continous usage.
However I noticed that when putting the PC in sleep mode (Vista x64) that the powered USB Hub has connectivity issues when coming back to normal mode.
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I used Ch Pro pedals, throttle and F-16 fighter stick for 3 years and never had a problem with any of them. After I left AH I sent all my gear to Uptown due to his controls failing. He said they were 100% better and was having no problems. If your rudder pedals failed I would say you were ramming to hard. Adjust your settings in game for more sensitivity and you should be fine. I am a strong supporter of CH products they are tough well made controls and if cared for properly they will last many years. My first set of analog ch controls lasted 10 years.