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Title: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 04, 2010, 12:27:20 PM
My wish is for the early variant of the La-5, its differences from the La-5FN are, It had an Ash-82 1700hp 14 cylinder radial (same block as the La-5FN and 7 but not fine tuned, it didnt have the cut down rear fuselage ( so worse rear vision, but better pilot protection, and lastly, it also had increased fuel capacity ( the Later variants of the La siries fighters had a metal wing spar which was bigger then the wood one, this would be a great advantage for the it in the MA, as I have calculated, that with a WEp climb to 9k (takes about 2-3 min) then with max cruise to the combat zone, you can squeez about 30 min of fuel out of it, so I think everyone would like an La that could stay in the fight for a bit longer :)

and on a side note, the early La-5 would have alot more skin variations, as there is a Bass mouth skin for it, and I have seen lots of all white winter camo ones, and also a winter camo partialy painted over the summer camo of the time ( dark green and black)

what are your guy's oppinons?
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: MachFly on November 04, 2010, 01:50:22 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Tupac on November 04, 2010, 01:50:57 PM
+1
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: 1Boner on November 04, 2010, 07:47:46 PM
PERK IT!!!!!  :x
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 04, 2010, 08:27:04 PM
May I ask why?
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Masherbrum on November 04, 2010, 08:28:59 PM
PERK IT!!!!!  :x

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Motherland on November 04, 2010, 08:29:42 PM
La 5 & LaGG 3
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 04, 2010, 08:30:56 PM
For a compairison guys, this would be like the spit 5 to the spit 9
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Masherbrum on November 04, 2010, 08:33:43 PM
No more Yak's or La's.    The Mig-3 would be more beneficial for FSO's, Scenario's and even be more fun in the MA's. 
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Motherland on November 04, 2010, 08:35:08 PM
No more Yak's or La's.    The Mig-3 would be more beneficial for FSO's, Scenario's and even be more fun in the MA's. 
No more Yakovlevs?
Yak 1's made up the majority of the non-Polikarpov VVS at Barbarossa and were much better than the MiG which was described by all who flew in & against it as a dog.

It was sexy though, I wouldn't protest its addition :)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/MiG-3winter.jpg)
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Masherbrum on November 04, 2010, 08:36:26 PM
No more Yakovlevs?
Yak 1's made up the majority of the non-Polikarpov VVS at Barbarossa and were much better than the MiG which was described by all who flew in & against it as a dog.

We have enough "duplicates" is all I'm saying.   I never said the "Mig was better".   
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Motherland on November 04, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
We have enough "duplicates" is all I'm saying.   I never said the "Mig was better".   
I see what you mean with that point, but you did say that the MiG 3 would be more beneficial to Scenario & FSOs, which I disagree with heartily. Yaks would fair much better against the Bf 109E and F.
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 04, 2010, 08:39:02 PM
lol with 2 main types of fighters through out most of ww2, im sorry man but your gonna have so called "duplicates" in the Soviet plane set
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Masherbrum on November 04, 2010, 08:41:07 PM
I see what you mean with that point, but you did say that the MiG 3 would be more beneficial to Scenario & FSOs, which I disagree with heartily.

I'm talking from a "variety complimented with planeset implementation for Special Events".   Obviously MANY craft are needed (and way before the 410 or 29).   Take the He-111, Mig-3, Ki-45, IAR 81c, D.520, Pe-2, etc.   Oh well.  
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 04, 2010, 11:45:11 PM
You are right mash, many planes are needed, but I didnt say we need it in AH, it would be nice to have, I am all for putting different planes in, and I would like the older AH1 planes redone even more ( just realised that when the Yaks get finished, USSR will have the "newest" plane set in the game) I voted for the Pe-2, would love to have seen it win, all I do with my wishes is try to throw ideas out on the table (anyone remember my wish for the Yer-2?  :D)
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Perrine on November 05, 2010, 12:12:39 AM
lol i wonder if HTC will accept this skin :uhoh

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/336/1/2/5

This plane to me just screams LaGG-3
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Perrine on November 05, 2010, 12:19:47 AM
btw wasn't LaGG-3-based La-5 the most common Lavochkin radial fighter that saw action in late 1942 to summer 1943?

Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 05, 2010, 12:58:17 AM
LaGG-3 is an La-5 with a Kilmov M-105 engine (same engine found in Yak-1 + 1m

La-5 uses the Shvetsov Ash/M82(F)(FN) 14 cylinder two row radial engine, originaly made for a bomber

EDIT: and Btw that profile is incorect and I would not trust it as a reliable skin, as it depicts wing slats which were not added until later versions of the La-5
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 05, 2010, 01:26:50 AM
+1
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: titan312 on November 05, 2010, 07:25:25 AM
I like the idea. +1

I'd also like to see the YAK-3. 
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Ruah on November 05, 2010, 02:36:44 PM
waiting for the yak-3
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Tilt on November 06, 2010, 09:21:50 AM
We basically have the 1944 La5FN (metal wing spar and La7 style cockpit)

An La5F would cover the period of 43 to early 44 (Think Kursk in terms of popular use). Externally the shape is very similar except for the air intake over the front cowl ring. Internally it would be timely to consider  a proper La5F/FN cockpit.

The La5  was active from late 42 to mid 43 (think Stalingrad). It was heavy and under powered compared to its later versions. It was Just better than the Lagg3 of 42 which was a bit of a dog interms of performance. The lagg3 only improved in performance during the last periods of production in 43.

Some of the  first La5's  were blessed with a 5 tank set (centre, 2 x inner 2 x outer) Some had 4 tank sets (no centre tank). This mix continued thru to the early La5f's which were later to take a 3 tank set.

In late 43 as the La5FN came on stream there was a mix of wooden/metal sparred La5F's and La5FN's each with  differing 3 tank sets.

For me the Yaks need an upgrade........ adding the Yak 3 (44) and the Yak 1 (41/42) & 7/9D (42/43).

Mig 3 is purty but was actually redundant after the winter campaign of 41/42
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: skorpion on November 06, 2010, 01:50:34 PM
PERK IT!!!!!  :x
:huh :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :huh :lol
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Motherland on November 06, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
lol i wonder if HTC will accept this skin :uhoh

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/336/1/2/5

This plane to me just screams LaGG-3
If you're referring to the text (Viva la revolution socialista en SSSR), most Russian skins already have such slogans on them, just... in Russian.
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 06, 2010, 02:23:50 PM
We basically have the 1944 La5FN (metal wing spar and La7 style cockpit)

An La5F would cover the period of 43 to early 44 (Think Kursk in terms of popular use). Externally the shape is very similar except for the air intake over the front cowl ring. Internally it would be timely to consider  a proper La5F/FN cockpit.

The La5  was active from late 42 to mid 43 (think Stalingrad). It was heavy and under powered compared to its later versions. It was Just better than the Lagg3 of 42 which was a bit of a dog interms of performance. The lagg3 only improved in performance during the last periods of production in 43.

Some of the  first La5's  were blessed with a 5 tank set (centre, 2 x inner 2 x outer) Some had 4 tank sets (no centre tank). This mix continued thru to the early La5f's which were later to take a 3 tank set.

In late 43 as the La5FN came on stream there was a mix of wooden/metal sparred La5F's and La5FN's each with  differing 3 tank sets.

For me the Yaks need an upgrade........ adding the Yak 3 (44) and the Yak 1 (41/42) & 7/9D (42/43).

Mig 3 is purty but was actually redundant after the winter campaign of 41/42

I dont understand what you mean about the La-5F/FN cockpit everywhere I read they all have the same cutback fuselage the only difference between the La-5FN and the La-7 are that the engine has a better tune and some aerodynamic improvments as far as I know only the original La-5 had a "razorback" style fuselage
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Wmaker on November 07, 2010, 04:43:34 PM
No more Yak's or La's.    The Mig-3 would be more beneficial for FSO's, Scenario's and even be more fun in the MA's.  

Although MiG-3 would be a useful early war fighter, Yak-1b, Yak-7 and LaGG-3 would be far, far more useful Special Events aircraft. They were delivered in far bigger numbers than MiG-3, were in use longer time and would have a lot better armament which is very important from the point of view of the average player.

MiG-3 would be great in many ways, though. One of the first inline engined fighter to be seen in the Finnish front for example. But saying that MiG-3 would be more beneficial for special events simply isn't true.
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 07, 2010, 11:46:54 PM
I like the MiG-3, but the I-16 can load a better armament, on the topic of La-5's aswell I see alot of sources saying that some of the FN's equiped the NS-23 23mm cannon as opposed to the ShVAK's I asked my grandpa on the phone earlier today and he had never heard of any La-5's carrying this wepon, as for his credability on the subject, he flew the one La-5 in the command unit of the 184th IAP several times in missions, so does anyone else have any more info regarding the VVS arming La-5's with dual 23mm cannon?
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Avanti on November 08, 2010, 05:35:13 AM
I'm sorry but -1

La's are too OP as it is
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Tilt on November 08, 2010, 01:39:33 PM
I dont understand what you mean about the La-5F/FN cockpit everywhere I read they all have the same cutback fuselage the only difference between the La-5FN and the La-7 are that the engine has a better tune and some aerodynamic improvments as far as I know only the original La-5 had a "razorback" style fuselage

The internal cockpit layout for the Bulk of the La5's was not the same as the La7. AH has the La7 cockpit layout in both the La7 and the La5FN

This is a typical La5F / La5FN cockpit

(http://www.btinternet.com/~fulltilt/pics/La5fn1.jpg)
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Tilt on November 08, 2010, 01:54:30 PM
regarding the VVS arming La-5's with dual 23mm cannon?

Not even on a trial basis................  However the post war development of the la7 led to the La9 which had 4 x NS23 mm cannon
Title: Re: La-5
Post by: Imowface on November 08, 2010, 05:43:24 PM
ah, thanks for the clarification and the picture tilt!