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Title: Arena capping
Post by: seano on November 09, 2010, 06:05:50 PM
please get rid of arena capping. it sucks and makes the game boring.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: DrBone1 on November 09, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
 :lol  Seano
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: The Fugitive on November 09, 2010, 09:28:53 PM
WOW !!!! What a new and fresh post !  :aok
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Imowface on November 09, 2010, 09:30:50 PM
Seano, follow me if you want to live!!!
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: 1Boner on November 09, 2010, 10:27:26 PM
I feel bad for the Euro Time guys.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: MachFly on November 09, 2010, 10:36:30 PM
(http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/attachments/general-bike-related-topics/171930d1262829012-crazy-looking-batman-riding-suit-repost.jpg)
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 09, 2010, 10:44:46 PM
waits for the flaming
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: grumpy37 on November 09, 2010, 11:15:44 PM
at least it was short and to the point.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: prono on November 09, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
What ? They haven't fixed this yet?  :uhoh
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Guppy35 on November 10, 2010, 12:17:22 AM
You know what's been funny to me this week?  No matter what the set up, folks complain.  I've had more time to fly lately and watched as folks grumbled and complained about caps on Monday.  Funny thing is in Blue, even with a smaller crowd, there were some really great fights.

I was in TT tonight and folks complained about the hordes, the HOs and the one sided fights. 

No way HTC can win on this one, other then to trust their own judgement.

Probably the best thing we can do is shut up and fly...or don't if we're so miserable.  Tis the joy of having a choice.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Imowface on November 10, 2010, 12:41:31 AM
sig'ed guppy :)
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 10, 2010, 01:20:34 AM
Probably the best thing we can do is shut up and fly...or don't if we're so miserable.  Tis the joy of having a choice.

But people don't want to fly.  They want to chat with their online buddies.  If they can't be in the same arena, they can't chat.

Otherwise, everyone who can't get into the "full" arena would be filling the "Euro" arena and actually flying.


wrongway
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Guppy35 on November 10, 2010, 01:35:13 AM
But people don't want to fly.  They want to chat with their online buddies.  If they can't be in the same arena, they can't chat.

Otherwise, everyone who can't get into the "full" arena would be filling the "Euro" arena and actually flying.


wrongway

Jeez, I hadn't thought of that.  Maybe HTC can open an unlimited chat arena?
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: zack1234 on November 10, 2010, 01:40:48 AM
i had beans on toast for dinner and tomatoe soup for tea :old:
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 10, 2010, 01:41:37 AM
Jeez, I hadn't thought of that.  Maybe HTC can open an unlimited chat arena?
Why try Dan? It is pointless. Even if HT gave everyone everything they wanted. People would still find things to cry about. Thats what this board is mostly about. "WHAAAA the game isnt exactly how i want it, WHAAAA im gonna stomp my feet and go post on the BBS, WHAAAAA HONEY WHERES YOUR MIDOL!!!!"
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: zack1234 on November 10, 2010, 01:58:55 AM
i agree with topic baseball caps suck :old:
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 10, 2010, 02:00:40 AM
I read the last 15 posts by this seano kid. 10 of them are him crying about one thing or another. He isnt happy with anything on AH. I think skuzz needs to install a diaper, bottle and a st*u button in his tear filled cartoon planes.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: dedalos on November 10, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
Tis the joy of having a choice.

I agree with that one.  Take the caps off and give us the choice to log in the empty arena or the full  :aok

I hear your cookies are in the mail  :rofl
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: WyoKId on November 16, 2010, 01:46:17 AM
just wanted to bump this thread cause i was too lazy to make my own.

Caps Sux
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: JimmyC on November 16, 2010, 05:10:57 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/no-caps.jpg)
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Rollins on November 16, 2010, 06:00:27 AM
I don't understand all the hatred directed at this fresh, new idea. I mean, be open to new ideas, arena cap ideas. Hahaha. The OP has a valid use: as a medically cleared mild vinegar based solution with which to ensure clean conditions in the vaginal canal. Why can't you guys respect that, just relax and wait for the flush.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Closer on November 16, 2010, 11:29:39 AM
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Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: The Fugitive on November 16, 2010, 12:04:59 PM
Funny, I only ever have to do the sequence once. Of course Orange isn't the arena I must fly in.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 16, 2010, 12:11:31 PM
Notice how the majority of arena cap whine threads always appear on a Tuesday? 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 16, 2010, 12:13:33 PM
What ? They haven't fixed this yet?  :uhoh

No need to fix something that isn't broken.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: JimmyC on November 16, 2010, 12:25:23 PM
for you
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 16, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
for you

Please show any proof how the arena caps are broken.  You can't because it's not broken, end of story...dismissed.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: JimmyC on November 16, 2010, 12:40:14 PM
how many are in the arena you play in?
100 for me seems small for a game that boasts "Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WWII air combat and sets it in an online high intensity environment where hundreds of players can battle it out with and against each other. "
my primetime does not live up to this boast
euros get a tough deal
its not a whine its a fact
<S>Jimmy
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 16, 2010, 12:43:35 PM
how many are in the arena you play in?
100 for me seems small for a game that boasts "Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WWII air combat and sets it in an online high intensity environment where hundreds of players can battle it out with and against each other. "
my primetime does not live up to this boast
euros get a tough deal
its not a whine its a fact
<S>Jimmy


How many? Well, I play in the DA, MW when things get boring and I feel like beating on some baby seal pups, then there is Blue which is the primary arena I play in and then later an nights when the numbers on Blue are too low, I switch to Orange.  No problems at all getting into any arena of my choosing and just because you can't get into the one you want to doesn't mean the arena cap system is broken.

Enjoy.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: 321BAR on November 16, 2010, 12:50:47 PM
for you
i fly orange mostly so does my squad... you just need a little patience. ive never freaked about caps. if orange isnt open just go to blue until it is
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Guppy35 on November 16, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
how many are in the arena you play in?
100 for me seems small for a game that boasts "Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WWII air combat and sets it in an online high intensity environment where hundreds of players can battle it out with and against each other. "
my primetime does not live up to this boast
euros get a tough deal
its not a whine its a fact
<S>Jimmy


When is the last time you saw those hundreds actually battling each other?  50 tend to be at one undefended field, while another 50 are attacking a different undefended field.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: --)SF---- on November 16, 2010, 01:03:48 PM
No problems at all getting into any arena of my choosing and just because you can't get into the one you want to doesn't mean the arena cap system is broken.


ack-ack

Just because things are working out so well for you, doesn't necessarily mean that things are working out so well for others...Caps are not broken, they are working just the way HTC designed them to.  That leads to the crux of the problem, does AH needs caps any more?

All to often the large orange map is capped at 100 peeps, which keeps it way underpopulated for fun play, while the caps is moving more peeps to blue.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Lusche on November 16, 2010, 01:13:31 PM
 No problems at all getting into any arena of my choosing and just because you can't get into the one you want to doesn't mean the arena cap system is broken.

Just because you do not run into problems it doesn't mean it is not broken.

I didn't quit because "I can't get into Orange" or "can't fly with my squad"

Caps once worked, even for my timezone. Now that numbers have changed significantly, they do not work anymore. They do not split 500 players into 300 and 200.. they split 140 into 100 (large map, locked) and 40. Once we had only a one hour dull time period after caps kicked in. Nowadays, it's often 4 hours or more... our whole evening. Only on weekends with higher base numbers it still works like it used to be.

And yes, for many of us that's a huge degradation in gameplay. And no, you don't have to be a basegrabbing horder if you are looking for more than a occasional 1v1 dogfight.


Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: 321BAR on November 16, 2010, 01:25:28 PM
Just because things are working out so well for you, doesn't necessarily mean that things are working out so well for others...Caps are not broken, they are working just the way HTC designed them to.  That leads to the crux of the problem, does AH needs caps any more?

All to often the large orange map is capped at 100 peeps, which keeps it way underpopulated for fun play, while the caps is moving more peeps to blue.
yes... yes caps are needed... at EST Primetime :rolleyes: you see 400-500 players in LW at EST primetime and you'll notice alot of angry or bored players...
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Wiley on November 16, 2010, 01:34:06 PM
I agree they're fulfilling their designed role when there's 400 or so people on.  What about the times outside of US primetime where they're affecting relatively small populations?

I guess what I don't get is, if you've only got ~140 people wanting to be logged in, where's the issue letting them go where they want?  Those wanting a smaller, cozier experience can go to blue, those wanting to go with the numbers can go to Orange.

It just seems to me (admittedly, an outsider to HTC) that perhaps a tweak to the timing might be worth a look.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Shuffler on November 16, 2010, 03:16:12 PM

All to often the large orange map is capped at 100 peeps, which keeps it way underpopulated for fun play, while the caps is moving more peeps to blue.

How many folks do you need to have a fight?
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: CHAPPY on November 16, 2010, 03:21:16 PM
Have everyone vote for the CAP's like the B-29 . :aok
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: dedalos on November 16, 2010, 04:52:29 PM
How many folks do you need to have a fight?

Two.  Can you find them?  :lol
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Shuffler on November 16, 2010, 04:54:24 PM
Two.  Can you find them?  :lol

If he's up... yes!
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: WyoKId on November 16, 2010, 05:19:56 PM
Please show any proof how the arena caps are broken.  You can't because it's not broken, end of story...dismissed.


ack-ack

they may not be broken , but they aren't in tune with client demand . this complaint is almost as old as the MA split . what i never understood is what are the caps doing to make gameplay better ? for me not a thing . makes it worse as far as i can see .
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: The Fugitive on November 16, 2010, 06:29:16 PM
they may not be broken , but they aren't in tune with client demand . this complaint is almost as old as the MA split . what i never understood is what are the caps doing to make gameplay better ? for me not a thing . makes it worse as far as i can see .

Thats because you don't own the game and your livelihood is not dependent on it's continual growth and income  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 17, 2010, 05:57:12 AM
How many folks do you need to have a fight?

At least two. I logged in on Monday night around 10:0 EST and took me over an hour and searching on both maps just to find that.

Yes I coulda went to furball island but it doesnt present the type of fights I like to fight. Im not big on the free for all.

My other options were as someone else noted. Join our horde attacking an undefended base. Or get ganged by a horde attacking our undefended base.


Till the numbers start to improve. Its time to do away with either the Arena caps. Or the large maps. Possibly both. To be fair I've always been a fan of the large maps. But the current arena numbers make them now more of a liability then a asset.

Title: Re: Arena capping
Post by: Shuffler on November 17, 2010, 07:41:54 AM
they may not be broken , but they aren't in tune with client demand . this complaint is almost as old as the MA split . what i never understood is what are the caps doing to make gameplay better ? for me not a thing . makes it worse as far as i can see .

HT can see farther than you. :)