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Title: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 15, 2010, 09:45:05 PM
Ok, I know the M4s are relatively new and that we just recieved news that the B29 is ib...I really think the next addition to the AH community should be the Panther. The Armor we have now is great, but I think this short paragraph would make agree that it deserves to be in the game:

The Best Army Tanks of World War II

The Panther, T-34, Tiger, Mk. IV Panzer, and Sherman

By Chuck Hawks



Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as to which tank was the best of WW II. My criteria for inclusion were that the tanks selected had to be a major factor in the war, be produced in large numbers, and be effective in battle. The German King Tiger, for instance, was not included as it was unreliable, slow, and only 484 were produced. It proved more useful dug-in as a gun emplacement than for maneuver, hardly a great recommendation for a tank.

Here is a quote from Hasso Manteuffel, commander of the German 7th Panzer Division, taken from Basil Hart's book The Other Side of the Hill:

"Tanks must be fast. That, I would say, is the most important lesson of the war in regard to tank design. The Panther was on the right lines, as a prototype."

"Fire-power, armor protection, speed and cross-country performance are the essentials, and the best type of tank is that which combines these conflicting requirements with the most success. In my opinion the German Panzer V, the 'Panther,' was the most satisfactory of all, and would have been close to the ideal had it been possible to design with a lower silhouette."

Following, in order of precedence, are my choices as the best tanks of WW II.

cont
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 15, 2010, 09:47:26 PM
Sure, then let us also get the M-26 Pershing to give us a tank that can go toe to toe with a Panther.

ack-ack
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 15, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Lets, I think the addition of more Gvs would make it more appealing.....WE LOVE YOU ACK-ACK :aok
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Karnak on November 15, 2010, 11:34:41 PM
The problem with the GVs is that more than half will need to be perked at this rate.  It also seems more of a problem for early war tanks to have any chance of success compared with early war fighters.  A Spitfire Mk Ia may be slow and underpowered, but it's .303s are still capable of putting holes in an F4U-4 whereas a Chi-Ha has pretty much no chance of doing anything at all to a Panther V G or T-34/85.
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 15, 2010, 11:41:09 PM
The problem with the GVs is that more than half will need to be perked at this rate.  It also seems more of a problem for early war tanks to have any chance of success compared with early war fighters.  A Spitfire Mk Ia may be slow and underpowered, but it's .303s are still capable of putting holes in an F4U-4 whereas a Chi-Ha has pretty much no chance of doing anything at all to a Panther V G or T-34/85.

Which is probably why HiTech decided with "Aces High" as opposed to "Tankers Low"..
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 16, 2010, 12:12:34 AM
Which is probably why HiTech decided with "Aces High" as opposed to "Tankers Low"..
:salute
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: AceHavok on November 16, 2010, 12:28:03 AM
Here comes Bar's M-18  :rofl
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: R 105 on November 16, 2010, 08:16:00 AM
Aces High put tanks in the game and then everyone treats them like the government does cigarettes. They are a legal product but they are attacked at every turn. I say band cigarettes or leave them alone. The same goes for tanks in this game. The drives alone just to GV is bad enough without the constant whines about tanks. The are in the game get over it.
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: 321BAR on November 16, 2010, 01:29:42 PM
Here comes Bar's M-18  :rofl
:aok
(http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/ardennen/bast02.jpg)
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: oakranger on November 16, 2010, 04:44:06 PM
The more GVs in the game, the more kills i can get in the P-47!   :t
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Bronk on November 16, 2010, 05:30:25 PM
The more GVs in the game, the more kills i can get in the P-47!   :t
Cuz lord knows you can't fight air to air. :rofl
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Imowface on November 16, 2010, 05:46:41 PM
Add this and say good night to the panther  :)
(http://genieminiature.com/pages%20photos%20militaires/SU100.jpg)
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Meatwad on November 16, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
BT-7 light soviet tank

(http://www.jaggedblue.com/ntembe/pic_nt_tank_bt7side.jpg)
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: BrownBaron on November 16, 2010, 09:23:40 PM
Cuz lord knows you can't fight air to air. :rofl

Air to air combat in the Aces High II MA with out a 3 to 1 numbers/E advantage!? God forbid...
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: EskimoJoe on November 16, 2010, 09:26:42 PM
Air to air combat in the Aces High II MA with out a 3 to 1 numbers/E advantage!? God forbid...

Wait, you're telling me Aces High II MA's still have air combat?

 :bolt:
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: stodd on November 16, 2010, 09:37:41 PM
Cuz lord knows you can't fight air to air. :rofl
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: oakranger on November 16, 2010, 11:40:41 PM
Cuz lord knows you can't fight air to air. :rofl

 :neener:
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 17, 2010, 12:35:57 AM
Add this and say good night to the panther  :)
(http://genieminiature.com/pages%20photos%20militaires/SU100.jpg)

Ok, problem with the IS series is that they mounted powerful guns and very tough armor, but were slow and could not traverse as well as Main Battle Tanks...SU122 samne thing.
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Imowface on November 17, 2010, 01:09:35 AM
lol that picture isnt any of the things you just listed :P its an SU-100, and you are correct about themk though, but what they were used for, no transverse was required, rather then being "tank destroyers" (which they did very well at) they were actually classified as Assault guns
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: ACE on November 17, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
This thread got hijacked quick
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Belial on November 17, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
I have heard through the grapevine that the Panther is in the works...but will deff. be pushed back by the b29

Be patient i think their working on it.
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: phatzo on November 17, 2010, 09:52:06 PM
I actually feel that the IS would have a place in the game. The 122mm HE rounds would be fantastic for a base assault.
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 18, 2010, 11:57:43 PM
lol that picture isnt any of the things you just listed :P its an SU-100, and you are correct about themk though, but what they were used for, no transverse was required, rather then being "tank destroyers" (which they did very well at) they were actually classified as Assault guns

Meant SU, lol...whoops. Just know that its said JagdTiger was best Assault/AT Platform and that all of em pretty much were at the mercy of infantry.
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on November 18, 2010, 11:58:31 PM
I have heard through the grapevine that the Panther is in the works...but will deff. be pushed back by the b29

Be patient i think their working on it.

Would be sweet... :aok
Title: Re: German MK. V Panther (gonna catch hell...)
Post by: Imowface on November 19, 2010, 09:25:10 AM
Meant SU, lol...whoops. Just know that its said JagdTiger was best Assault/AT Platform and that all of em pretty much were at the mercy of infantry.
by that theory then you would have to say the king tiger was the best tank in ww2 low numbers, slow with a big gun, over all the SU (T-34 chasis) and ISU (KV Chasis) were the best assault guns in ww2, for armour to speed to fire power and for reliabliity