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Title: Trivia #3
Post by: Gaboon on November 17, 2010, 02:21:19 PM
Name the plane that holds the record from standing cold start time to climb to target and back to base but was rejected by the U.S.A.F. in favor of the F-16. I actually had a chance to see and touch this plane in 1983 cold weather testing on Adak Alaska.
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: CAP1 on November 17, 2010, 02:24:22 PM
Name the plane that holds the record from standing cold start time to climb to target and back to base but was rejected by the U.S.A.F. in favor of the F-16. I actually had a chance to see and touch this plane in 1983 cold weather testing on Adak Alaska.

for some reason, i'm thinking the f-15 eagle......but they didn't reject that one.......
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: Dichotomy on November 17, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
YF17?
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Post by: AAJagerX on November 17, 2010, 02:29:53 PM
Dicho wins.
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Post by: CAP1 on November 17, 2010, 02:31:26 PM
ooooooo shirly!!!!!!!  GGRRRR   :furious
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: LCADolby on November 17, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
F5 - Tiger Shark Nothrop Talon?
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: pipz on November 17, 2010, 04:18:18 PM
F20
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: mbailey on November 17, 2010, 04:23:09 PM
YF17?

 :aok  this
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: RTR on November 17, 2010, 05:15:49 PM
F20 Tigershark

YF17 was a prototype for the F18 I think

RTR
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: Dichotomy on November 17, 2010, 05:34:22 PM
The only reason I knew that was I worked on the F-16 program at Generous Dynamics in the 80's and early 90's.  Not trusting my memory that much I double checked myself on several sites prior to posting the answer.

Interesting read.

http://www.johnweeks.com/yf17/index.html

And yes there will always be a soft spot in what passes for my 'heart' for the F-16. 

I even got a couple of flights in simulators while I was there. Some things never change.  I could take off okay back then but getting back to land was a bit of a stretch. :D
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: AAJagerX on November 17, 2010, 06:00:54 PM
F20 Tigershark

YF17 was a prototype for the F18 I think

RTR

You are correct sir about the prototype.  YF-17 was the prototype for the F-18.  The USAF went with the 16, while the Navy went with the 17 for the twin engines. 
F-20 wasn't in that race though.
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: Babalonian on November 17, 2010, 06:07:47 PM
F20 Tigershark

YF17 was a prototype for the F18 I think

RTR

It was the YF17, which was also the predecesor to the Navy's F-18.  If I recall it was a joint design competition by the Air Force and Navy (and maybe Marines also), in teh end the AF chose the F-16, and the Navy (and Marines) the YF-17 with required modifications - aka the first generation F-18 (folding wings, reinforced landing gear, different midair refueling equipment and basic avionics equipment/support from the AF standards, and the arrestor hook off the top of my head).
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: RTR on November 17, 2010, 07:50:18 PM
The only reason I knew that was I worked on the F-16 program at Generous Dynamics in the 80's and early 90's.  Not trusting my memory that much I double checked myself on several sites prior to posting the answer.

Interesting read.

http://www.johnweeks.com/yf17/index.html

And yes there will always be a soft spot in what passes for my 'heart' for the F-16. 

I even got a couple of flights in simulators while I was there. Some things never change.  I could take off okay back then but getting back to land was a bit of a stretch. :D

That was an interesting read Dicho, thanks.

I worked on the F-18 for a little better than 10 years, although we dubbed it the CF18. It is still a great aircraft, and I miss it every day.

I did not know that the YF17 was capable of mach without afterburning. very cool.

cheers,
RTR
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: Dichotomy on November 17, 2010, 09:39:37 PM
ever wish you were still there like I do every day RTR?
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: Gaboon on November 18, 2010, 01:08:52 AM
Pipz got it right the F-20 tigershark 10 times better than the f-16 less expensive to maintain faster and more economic on fuel. Airforce made a very bad call on this plane. I believe in the long run we would have made billions on the foreign market with this plane.
Title: Re: Trivia #3
Post by: Raptor on November 18, 2010, 02:36:38 AM
Pipz got it right the F-20 tigershark 10 times better than the f-16 less expensive to maintain faster and more economic on fuel. Airforce made a very bad call on this plane. I believe in the long run we would have made billions on the foreign market with this plane.
The F-16 cost almost double what the F-20 cost.