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Title: Today in World History
Post by: Amaazee on November 17, 2010, 06:57:56 PM
In our class we had a HUGE argument about if English(Brits) people ruined the world...


Besides the opinions in class, does anyone else believe this is true?


No offence to English players of the game...  :salute


Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Yossarian on November 17, 2010, 07:08:49 PM
What were the arguments for that?  I honestly can't think of any (and also - what do you mean by 'ruined the world'?)

No offense taken, and no I don't believe it's true ;)
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Meatwad on November 17, 2010, 07:12:14 PM
Monty Python would be a normal way of life.

University of silly walks, barber/lumberjack/cross dressing classes, how not to be seen, etc etc etc

 ;)
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Plazus on November 17, 2010, 07:56:31 PM
In our class we had a HUGE argument about if English(Brits) people ruined the world...

Well in this case, I blame Kazaa and Bruv. :)
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Wildcat1 on November 17, 2010, 08:05:02 PM
Well in this case, I blame Kazaa and Bruv. :)

 :lol

well, i think the show "Top Gear" was a blessing to the world.

and now its comming here :rolleyes:

so, no, i dont think the brits completely ruined the world :D
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: MachFly on November 17, 2010, 08:09:41 PM
No they did not ruined the world, they provided us with a Spitfire  :old:
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: phatzo on November 17, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
Funny thing is, there is probably an history class in England talking about how the USA ruined the world, I personally believe New Zealand ruined the world.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Pigslilspaz on November 17, 2010, 08:21:27 PM
Of course we all know who did.















The French.  :noid
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: RTR on November 17, 2010, 08:32:04 PM
I'm pretty sure the British can't be held responsible for ruining the world. Most of you wouldn't be here if not for the English and there certainly wouldn't be a United States. They pretty much defined you.

Think about it.

Oh, and stop butchering the language :D

Also, it was the Aussies who ruined the world. They're all offspring of hardened criminals!

RTR
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Motherland on November 17, 2010, 08:35:47 PM
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/GottstrafeEngland.png)

This guy's pretty entertaining. He thinks (or at least pretends to think) that Russia is a British 'crypto-colony'. Among many other things not pertaining to Britain.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: RTR on November 17, 2010, 08:38:32 PM
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/GottstrafeEngland.png)

This guy's pretty entertaining. He thinks (or at least pretends to think) that Russia is a British 'crypto-colony'. Among many other things not pertaining to Britain.

ROFL!

RTR
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Motherland on November 17, 2010, 08:51:42 PM
English(Brits)
Also, there's a difference between England and Britain.
The evil slimy English oppressed & enslaved the Scots and Irish much the same way they did the rest of the world.
(http://pwwwblog.ibeatyou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/mel-gibson-braveheart-photograph-c101019223.jpg)
FREEEEDOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: phatzo on November 17, 2010, 08:55:14 PM
Also, it was the Aussies who ruined the world. They're all offspring of hardened criminals!

RTR
Say 'ello to uncle chop chop
(http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt232/spenna_4/Chopper-Read-image.jpg)
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: BrownBaron on November 17, 2010, 09:04:54 PM
The British Empire made countless people her subjects, often under terrible circumstances. They caused wars, oppressed societies, and made a mess of the Mid East alongside the other superpowers. One thing they did manage to do, however, was unintentionally introduce democratic governmental philosophy to their colonies. Though many of her former subjugates and Commonwealth holdings are now somewhat tumultuous areas of the world, they are exponentially more stable than many of the world's other countries.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Motherland on November 17, 2010, 09:20:23 PM
unintentionally
Britain and her Commonwealth, collectively, with all things considered, are probably the most democratic and stable states on the face of the planet. That's no accident, bruv.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: BrownBaron on November 17, 2010, 09:25:43 PM
Britain and her Commonwealth, collectively, with all things considered, are probably the most democratic and stable states on the face of the planet. That's no accident, bruv.

Yes, that is, basically, what I said. :)

Of course, I'm sure if their former subjects hadn't become weary of their sub-citizenships, the Empire would still retain them as just that, sub-citizens. They did not as a whole seek to liberate and empower the natives, but exposed them to their ideas, which seem to have taken extremely well, giving birth to the US, Canada, India, et cetera.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Motherland on November 17, 2010, 09:29:48 PM
India's natives, for example, were made citizens of the British Empire, but with out many of the rights that a white member of the government that presided over them enjoyed. The English did not as a whole seek to liberate and fully empower the Indians, but umimtemtionally introduced their ideas to the population. Had the natives not grown weary of their captivity in their own lands, I am sure the Brits would still keep them in that state today.
Yes, the entire world has been liberalized over the past 100 years, including the (former) British Empire. That's beside the point.
Today India is one of the most stable states in that region, and is still a member of the Commonwealth, and is well on its way to becoming a superpower.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: BrownBaron on November 17, 2010, 09:36:07 PM
Yes, the entire world has been liberalized over the past 100 years, including the (former) British Empire. That's beside the point.
Today India is one of the most stable states in that region, and is still a member of the Commonwealth, and is well on its way to becoming a superpower.

That is not besides the point. I felt they were not actively trying to grant liberties to their colonies, while you disagree. We both agree that today the former British Empire is, comparatively, very stable.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Karnak on November 17, 2010, 10:40:51 PM
I very much prefer the English ideas of liberty to the French ideas of Liberty and am rather happy that the English exported it as well as they did.

As to colonialism, it was a bad thing, yes.  However, the English (British) were by no means the worst of the lot and of the messes left behind when colonial powers withdrew, the British left a good deal more functional states than did the French, Germans or Belgians.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Motherland on November 18, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
That is not besides the point. I felt they were not actively trying to grant liberties to their colonies, while you disagree. We both agree that today the former British Empire is, comparatively, very stable.
No one actively grants liberties to anyone. Who's going to share power if they already have all of it, unless they're forced to? :rolleyes:
India and Pakistan got independence from Britain before racial minorities in the United States got the right to vote. Slavery in the Empire was outlawed LONG before it was outlawed in the US (for the sake of comparing the lasting British sphere to one of its colonies that forcefully removed itself). In no cases are rights just 'given out', those who wanted them had to fight very hard to get them. It's the same everywhere.
Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: Westy on November 18, 2010, 02:45:12 PM

Damned pommey bastirds and their malicious and eVile Magna Carta.
Piece of crap parchment that had the misfortune of influencing a
group of rebels in creating their <patooey> Bill of Rights several
hundred years later.


Title: Re: Today in World History
Post by: BrownBaron on November 18, 2010, 06:26:57 PM
No one actively grants liberties to anyone. Who's going to share power if they already have all of it, unless they're forced to? :rolleyes:
India and Pakistan got independence from Britain before racial minorities in the United States got the right to vote. Slavery in the Empire was outlawed LONG before it was outlawed in the US (for the sake of comparing the lasting British sphere to one of its colonies that forcefully removed itself). In no cases are rights just 'given out', those who wanted them had to fight very hard to get them. It's the same everywhere.

This is true, and I'm not attacking the British Empire for their practices, either. We are in agreeance here.